Anonymous wrote:Is there a go fund me or some verified org where we can donate to the families of these children?

I don’t really like Persians and def not Muslims but these kids dying has crushed my soul.

I would burn the world to see them come back.

I can’t stop thinking about these kiddos


China is taking care of that

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Anonymous wrote:Since the troll poster has requested more information from the WSJ, I'm happy to oblige with a gift link. There's a very clear satellite picture showing just how close the school is to the base. Anyone claiming that this school wasn't very much adjacent to the military base - and previously a part of it - is nutty.

The school is located on the edge of a compound linked to the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps, an elite branch of Iran’s armed forces, according to an analysis of images by The Wall Street Journal. There are indications the school building had previously been used as an IRGC headquarters, the official said.

The Journal analysis of satellite and open-source images shows the building was next to, and possibly part of, a compound linked to the IRGC. Farzin Nadimi, a senior fellow at the Washington Institute specializing in Iran’s military, said visual clues such as the size, number and arrangement of structures support the assessment that the site was a base, though there was little to suggest to him that it was an important one.

Google Maps identifies one building as a “cultural complex” of the IRGC, where young members play sports and train, Nadimi said. The compound also has a medical facility. A photograph pinned to the location on Google Maps shows a sign that says, “Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps Navy Medical Command.”

https://www.wsj.com/world/middle-east/iran-us-school-strike-07d8ffac?st=o8z38t&reflink=desktopwebshare_permalink

Being "close to" a base is no excuse for bombing a school. No one would be saying "oh that's ok, it's understandable they killed my kid" if their kid was killed because they attended one of the 150 DoED schools co-located on a military base.

If it was the second day of bombing, you'd better believe American parents wouldn't be sending their kids to school anywhere, much less to a school co-located on a military base. But do keep repeating yourself over and over and over...

You’re terrible. We all had to go back to school and work on 9/12. War doesn’t make us hide under tunnels like Israelis can

+1 No one expects the military to bomb elementary schools. Stop trying to justify this incident.

No one expected the US military to bomb elementary schools. And, they wouldn't have, but for Hegseth and Trump and their derangement over the "queering of the military" or whatever the F else imaginary grievance du jour that makes them think they need to tear up longstanding rules of engagement, ignore Geneva Conventions, upend JAG corps etc.

So that's one f'ed up thing going on. And it's new. But we Americans hope to throw those m-f-ers out and put them on trial. Wish Iran could say the same.

But it's pretty much a given for Russia to do that to Ukrainian schools. Along with Iran and Hezbollah etc. They've bombed schools, hospitals and civilian targets with impunity. And without accountability to the international community, what's the point of even expecting accountability? We can't have a UN Security Council that gives their buddies a pass for war crimes, whether it's Israel, or whether it's Iran, Russia, China or anyone else - even the US. Currently those institutions have shown themselves to be impotent, pointless and useless. And it sucks.

None of it's justifiable or excusable, nobody should get a pass - even those who think they deserve some kind of morality pass because they hate the US and Israel. And, along with it, the bad-faith "negotiations" that are straight up delusional. It's the perfect set-up to lead nations into wars. Our whole global community system is broken.

Why wouldn't you expect the US military to attack a school? The were reported strikes in schools in Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria, Pakistan, and Yemen. Why should Iran be any exception

I just asked AI to give a synthesis in response to your accusation - the response is that accidents happen, but to ascribe intentionality and evil intent or to claim it's a widespread and frequent phenomenon to be expected significantly misses the mark:

Short answer: no—there is not evidence of widespread, independently corroborated cases where the U.S. military knowingly and deliberately attacked schools as schools in Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria, Pakistan, or Yemen. What does exist is a grim record of schools being hit, sometimes with very high civilian casualties, in strikes the U.S. has variously described as mistakes, bad intelligence, misidentification, or collateral damage near what it claimed were legitimate military targets.

In all of those theaters, you can find documented incidents where school buildings, madrassas, or school buses were struck—often investigated by the UN, human‑rights groups, or journalists. In some cases, those investigations concluded the U.S. failed to take sufficient precautions, used flawed intelligence, or acted with reckless disregard for civilian life. But that is still legally and factually different from proven, intentional targeting of a known school as a school. There is no established pattern—backed by independent investigations—that the U.S. ran a campaign of deliberately attacking schools knowing they were purely civilian educational facilities.

No established pattern of deliberate targeting of schools. That's based on broad independent investigations by the UN and human rights groups and journalists.

The US conducted tens of thousands of airstrikes in Iran, Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria, Pakistan, and Yemen. Comparatively, the numbers of claimed schools that were hit are barely double digit, out of tens of thousands of airstrikes. That's a 0.1% error rate which is significantly lower than any military in history. Is it excusable? No. Could it be better? Yes. But for any critic also engaged in warfare to claim some kind of moral superiority is an absolute farce.

A bit amusing how you're defending the same regime that just attacked a desalination plant, a bank, and an oil field that will result in one of the biggest ecological disasters in recent history reminiscent of a dirty bomb where the population will be poisoned and experience harms like cancer for decades to come.

Dude. You need better news sources. Iran has bombed desalinization plants, oilfields and refineries all across the Gulf states. As for banks, Iran hasn't used missiles but much more insidious measures like cyber attacks on US, Israeli and Gulf State banks and financial networks.

Let's not forget about the widespread global economic and environmental disaster unfolding as a result of Iran choking off the Strait of Hormuz, cutting nations off from needed food supplies, from needs for fertilizer and other crucial goods. Iran is indiscriminately firing on vessels. Even Chinese tankers turned back, after seeing vessels ahead of them being put at risk. India is already in an LPG shortage crisis. Iran is at war with the entire world.

The foundation of your comment is that Iran has no right, none, to self-defense.

Since when does legitimate self defense include firing on random civilian vessels?

Do you even listen to yourself or bother to think this stuff through before posting?

Since the time our government on Israel's interest bombed a school and also torpedo an unarmed ship returning from a friendly summit!

Were you this concerned when Iran was murdering thousands of its own people who were protesting their murderous regime? You know, before the war even started? Funny how we never hear about that from you disingenuous clowns.
DP

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Anonymous wrote:Since the troll poster has requested more information from the WSJ, I'm happy to oblige with a gift link. There's a very clear satellite picture showing just how close the school is to the base. Anyone claiming that this school wasn't very much adjacent to the military base - and previously a part of it - is nutty.

The school is located on the edge of a compound linked to the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps, an elite branch of Iran’s armed forces, according to an analysis of images by The Wall Street Journal. There are indications the school building had previously been used as an IRGC headquarters, the official said.

The Journal analysis of satellite and open-source images shows the building was next to, and possibly part of, a compound linked to the IRGC. Farzin Nadimi, a senior fellow at the Washington Institute specializing in Iran’s military, said visual clues such as the size, number and arrangement of structures support the assessment that the site was a base, though there was little to suggest to him that it was an important one.

Google Maps identifies one building as a “cultural complex” of the IRGC, where young members play sports and train, Nadimi said. The compound also has a medical facility. A photograph pinned to the location on Google Maps shows a sign that says, “Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps Navy Medical Command.”

https://www.wsj.com/world/middle-east/iran-us-school-strike-07d8ffac?st=o8z38t&reflink=desktopwebshare_permalink

Being "close to" a base is no excuse for bombing a school. No one would be saying "oh that's ok, it's understandable they killed my kid" if their kid was killed because they attended one of the 150 DoED schools co-located on a military base.

If it was the second day of bombing, you'd better believe American parents wouldn't be sending their kids to school anywhere, much less to a school co-located on a military base. But do keep repeating yourself over and over and over...

You’re terrible. We all had to go back to school and work on 9/12. War doesn’t make us hide under tunnels like Israelis can

+1 No one expects the military to bomb elementary schools. Stop trying to justify this incident.

No one expected the US military to bomb elementary schools. And, they wouldn't have, but for Hegseth and Trump and their derangement over the "queering of the military" or whatever the F else imaginary grievance du jour that makes them think they need to tear up longstanding rules of engagement, ignore Geneva Conventions, upend JAG corps etc.

So that's one f'ed up thing going on. And it's new. But we Americans hope to throw those m-f-ers out and put them on trial. Wish Iran could say the same.

But it's pretty much a given for Russia to do that to Ukrainian schools. Along with Iran and Hezbollah etc. They've bombed schools, hospitals and civilian targets with impunity. And without accountability to the international community, what's the point of even expecting accountability? We can't have a UN Security Council that gives their buddies a pass for war crimes, whether it's Israel, or whether it's Iran, Russia, China or anyone else - even the US. Currently those institutions have shown themselves to be impotent, pointless and useless. And it sucks.

None of it's justifiable or excusable, nobody should get a pass - even those who think they deserve some kind of morality pass because they hate the US and Israel. And, along with it, the bad-faith "negotiations" that are straight up delusional. It's the perfect set-up to lead nations into wars. Our whole global community system is broken.

Why wouldn't you expect the US military to attack a school? The were reported strikes in schools in Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria, Pakistan, and Yemen. Why should Iran be any exception

I just asked AI to give a synthesis in response to your accusation - the response is that accidents happen, but to ascribe intentionality and evil intent or to claim it's a widespread and frequent phenomenon to be expected significantly misses the mark:

Short answer: no—there is not evidence of widespread, independently corroborated cases where the U.S. military knowingly and deliberately attacked schools as schools in Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria, Pakistan, or Yemen. What does exist is a grim record of schools being hit, sometimes with very high civilian casualties, in strikes the U.S. has variously described as mistakes, bad intelligence, misidentification, or collateral damage near what it claimed were legitimate military targets.

In all of those theaters, you can find documented incidents where school buildings, madrassas, or school buses were struck—often investigated by the UN, human‑rights groups, or journalists. In some cases, those investigations concluded the U.S. failed to take sufficient precautions, used flawed intelligence, or acted with reckless disregard for civilian life. But that is still legally and factually different from proven, intentional targeting of a known school as a school. There is no established pattern—backed by independent investigations—that the U.S. ran a campaign of deliberately attacking schools knowing they were purely civilian educational facilities.

No established pattern of deliberate targeting of schools. That's based on broad independent investigations by the UN and human rights groups and journalists.

The US conducted tens of thousands of airstrikes in Iran, Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria, Pakistan, and Yemen. Comparatively, the numbers of claimed schools that were hit are barely double digit, out of tens of thousands of airstrikes. That's a 0.1% error rate which is significantly lower than any military in history. Is it excusable? No. Could it be better? Yes. But for any critic also engaged in warfare to claim some kind of moral superiority is an absolute farce.

A bit amusing how you're defending the same regime that just attacked a desalination plant, a bank, and an oil field that will result in one of the biggest ecological disasters in recent history reminiscent of a dirty bomb where the population will be poisoned and experience harms like cancer for decades to come.

Dude. You need better news sources. Iran has bombed desalinization plants, oilfields and refineries all across the Gulf states. As for banks, Iran hasn't used missiles but much more insidious measures like cyber attacks on US, Israeli and Gulf State banks and financial networks.

Let's not forget about the widespread global economic and environmental disaster unfolding as a result of Iran choking off the Strait of Hormuz, cutting nations off from needed food supplies, from needs for fertilizer and other crucial goods. Iran is indiscriminately firing on vessels. Even Chinese tankers turned back, after seeing vessels ahead of them being put at risk. India is already in an LPG shortage crisis. Iran is at war with the entire world.

The foundation of your comment is that Iran has no right, none, to self-defense.

Since when does legitimate self defense include firing on random civilian vessels?

Do you even listen to yourself or bother to think this stuff through before posting?

Since the time our government on Israel's interest bombed a school and also torpedo an unarmed ship returning from a friendly summit!

Were you this concerned when Iran was murdering thousands of its own people who were protesting their murderous regime? You know, before the war even started? Funny how we never hear about that from you disingenuous clowns.
DP

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Anonymous wrote:Since the troll poster has requested more information from the WSJ, I'm happy to oblige with a gift link. There's a very clear satellite picture showing just how close the school is to the base. Anyone claiming that this school wasn't very much adjacent to the military base - and previously a part of it - is nutty.

The school is located on the edge of a compound linked to the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps, an elite branch of Iran’s armed forces, according to an analysis of images by The Wall Street Journal. There are indications the school building had previously been used as an IRGC headquarters, the official said.

The Journal analysis of satellite and open-source images shows the building was next to, and possibly part of, a compound linked to the IRGC. Farzin Nadimi, a senior fellow at the Washington Institute specializing in Iran’s military, said visual clues such as the size, number and arrangement of structures support the assessment that the site was a base, though there was little to suggest to him that it was an important one.

Google Maps identifies one building as a “cultural complex” of the IRGC, where young members play sports and train, Nadimi said. The compound also has a medical facility. A photograph pinned to the location on Google Maps shows a sign that says, “Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps Navy Medical Command.”

https://www.wsj.com/world/middle-east/iran-us-school-strike-07d8ffac?st=o8z38t&reflink=desktopwebshare_permalink

Being "close to" a base is no excuse for bombing a school. No one would be saying "oh that's ok, it's understandable they killed my kid" if their kid was killed because they attended one of the 150 DoED schools co-located on a military base.

If it was the second day of bombing, you'd better believe American parents wouldn't be sending their kids to school anywhere, much less to a school co-located on a military base. But do keep repeating yourself over and over and over...

You’re terrible. We all had to go back to school and work on 9/12. War doesn’t make us hide under tunnels like Israelis can

+1 No one expects the military to bomb elementary schools. Stop trying to justify this incident.

No one expected the US military to bomb elementary schools. And, they wouldn't have, but for Hegseth and Trump and their derangement over the "queering of the military" or whatever the F else imaginary grievance du jour that makes them think they need to tear up longstanding rules of engagement, ignore Geneva Conventions, upend JAG corps etc.

So that's one f'ed up thing going on. And it's new. But we Americans hope to throw those m-f-ers out and put them on trial. Wish Iran could say the same.

But it's pretty much a given for Russia to do that to Ukrainian schools. Along with Iran and Hezbollah etc. They've bombed schools, hospitals and civilian targets with impunity. And without accountability to the international community, what's the point of even expecting accountability? We can't have a UN Security Council that gives their buddies a pass for war crimes, whether it's Israel, or whether it's Iran, Russia, China or anyone else - even the US. Currently those institutions have shown themselves to be impotent, pointless and useless. And it sucks.

None of it's justifiable or excusable, nobody should get a pass - even those who think they deserve some kind of morality pass because they hate the US and Israel. And, along with it, the bad-faith "negotiations" that are straight up delusional. It's the perfect set-up to lead nations into wars. Our whole global community system is broken.

Why wouldn't you expect the US military to attack a school? The were reported strikes in schools in Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria, Pakistan, and Yemen. Why should Iran be any exception

I just asked AI to give a synthesis in response to your accusation - the response is that accidents happen, but to ascribe intentionality and evil intent or to claim it's a widespread and frequent phenomenon to be expected significantly misses the mark:

Short answer: no—there is not evidence of widespread, independently corroborated cases where the U.S. military knowingly and deliberately attacked schools as schools in Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria, Pakistan, or Yemen. What does exist is a grim record of schools being hit, sometimes with very high civilian casualties, in strikes the U.S. has variously described as mistakes, bad intelligence, misidentification, or collateral damage near what it claimed were legitimate military targets.

In all of those theaters, you can find documented incidents where school buildings, madrassas, or school buses were struck—often investigated by the UN, human‑rights groups, or journalists. In some cases, those investigations concluded the U.S. failed to take sufficient precautions, used flawed intelligence, or acted with reckless disregard for civilian life. But that is still legally and factually different from proven, intentional targeting of a known school as a school. There is no established pattern—backed by independent investigations—that the U.S. ran a campaign of deliberately attacking schools knowing they were purely civilian educational facilities.

No established pattern of deliberate targeting of schools. That's based on broad independent investigations by the UN and human rights groups and journalists.

The US conducted tens of thousands of airstrikes in Iran, Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria, Pakistan, and Yemen. Comparatively, the numbers of claimed schools that were hit are barely double digit, out of tens of thousands of airstrikes. That's a 0.1% error rate which is significantly lower than any military in history. Is it excusable? No. Could it be better? Yes. But for any critic also engaged in warfare to claim some kind of moral superiority is an absolute farce.

A bit amusing how you're defending the same regime that just attacked a desalination plant, a bank, and an oil field that will result in one of the biggest ecological disasters in recent history reminiscent of a dirty bomb where the population will be poisoned and experience harms like cancer for decades to come.

Dude. You need better news sources. Iran has bombed desalinization plants, oilfields and refineries all across the Gulf states. As for banks, Iran hasn't used missiles but much more insidious measures like cyber attacks on US, Israeli and Gulf State banks and financial networks.

Let's not forget about the widespread global economic and environmental disaster unfolding as a result of Iran choking off the Strait of Hormuz, cutting nations off from needed food supplies, from needs for fertilizer and other crucial goods. Iran is indiscriminately firing on vessels. Even Chinese tankers turned back, after seeing vessels ahead of them being put at risk. India is already in an LPG shortage crisis. Iran is at war with the entire world.

The foundation of your comment is that Iran has no right, none, to self-defense.

Since when does legitimate self defense include firing on random civilian vessels?

Do you even listen to yourself or bother to think this stuff through before posting?

Since the time our government on Israel's interest bombed a school and also torpedo an unarmed ship returning from a friendly summit!

Anonymous wrote:Is there a go fund me or some verified org where we can donate to the families of these children?

I don’t really like Persians and def not Muslims but these kids dying has crushed my soul.

I would burn the world to see them come back.

I can’t stop thinking about these kiddos

Anonymous wrote:US intelligence satellite imagery is NOT Google Maps. It is very in-depth.

It can make out playgrounds, children, when kids arrive and depart, the building use on weekends versus weekdays.

Images are collated over time and an assessment in confidence levels is made.

This is why it does seem that the US deliberately target the school because they wanted to kill the children of Iranian military officers. There is no other explanation

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Anonymous wrote:Wouldn't be surprised if this was done on purpose. Not sure their motivation but they DO love to murder innocent people, of this we can be sure.

Just check what US soldiers did in Iraq or in Mai Lai Vietnam for starters...

Many of the parents buried just body parts of their little girls.

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Anonymous wrote:Since the troll poster has requested more information from the WSJ, I'm happy to oblige with a gift link. There's a very clear satellite picture showing just how close the school is to the base. Anyone claiming that this school wasn't very much adjacent to the military base - and previously a part of it - is nutty.

The school is located on the edge of a compound linked to the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps, an elite branch of Iran’s armed forces, according to an analysis of images by The Wall Street Journal. There are indications the school building had previously been used as an IRGC headquarters, the official said.

The Journal analysis of satellite and open-source images shows the building was next to, and possibly part of, a compound linked to the IRGC. Farzin Nadimi, a senior fellow at the Washington Institute specializing in Iran’s military, said visual clues such as the size, number and arrangement of structures support the assessment that the site was a base, though there was little to suggest to him that it was an important one.

Google Maps identifies one building as a “cultural complex” of the IRGC, where young members play sports and train, Nadimi said. The compound also has a medical facility. A photograph pinned to the location on Google Maps shows a sign that says, “Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps Navy Medical Command.”

https://www.wsj.com/world/middle-east/iran-us-school-strike-07d8ffac?st=o8z38t&reflink=desktopwebshare_permalink

Being "close to" a base is no excuse for bombing a school. No one would be saying "oh that's ok, it's understandable they killed my kid" if their kid was killed because they attended one of the 150 DoED schools co-located on a military base.

If it was the second day of bombing, you'd better believe American parents wouldn't be sending their kids to school anywhere, much less to a school co-located on a military base. But do keep repeating yourself over and over and over...

You’re terrible. We all had to go back to school and work on 9/12. War doesn’t make us hide under tunnels like Israelis can

+1 No one expects the military to bomb elementary schools. Stop trying to justify this incident.

No one expected the US military to bomb elementary schools. And, they wouldn't have, but for Hegseth and Trump and their derangement over the "queering of the military" or whatever the F else imaginary grievance du jour that makes them think they need to tear up longstanding rules of engagement, ignore Geneva Conventions, upend JAG corps etc.

So that's one f'ed up thing going on. And it's new. But we Americans hope to throw those m-f-ers out and put them on trial. Wish Iran could say the same.

But it's pretty much a given for Russia to do that to Ukrainian schools. Along with Iran and Hezbollah etc. They've bombed schools, hospitals and civilian targets with impunity. And without accountability to the international community, what's the point of even expecting accountability? We can't have a UN Security Council that gives their buddies a pass for war crimes, whether it's Israel, or whether it's Iran, Russia, China or anyone else - even the US. Currently those institutions have shown themselves to be impotent, pointless and useless. And it sucks.

None of it's justifiable or excusable, nobody should get a pass - even those who think they deserve some kind of morality pass because they hate the US and Israel. And, along with it, the bad-faith "negotiations" that are straight up delusional. It's the perfect set-up to lead nations into wars. Our whole global community system is broken.

Why wouldn't you expect the US military to attack a school? The were reported strikes in schools in Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria, Pakistan, and Yemen. Why should Iran be any exception

I just asked AI to give a synthesis in response to your accusation - the response is that accidents happen, but to ascribe intentionality and evil intent or to claim it's a widespread and frequent phenomenon to be expected significantly misses the mark:

Short answer: no—there is not evidence of widespread, independently corroborated cases where the U.S. military knowingly and deliberately attacked schools as schools in Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria, Pakistan, or Yemen. What does exist is a grim record of schools being hit, sometimes with very high civilian casualties, in strikes the U.S. has variously described as mistakes, bad intelligence, misidentification, or collateral damage near what it claimed were legitimate military targets.

In all of those theaters, you can find documented incidents where school buildings, madrassas, or school buses were struck—often investigated by the UN, human‑rights groups, or journalists. In some cases, those investigations concluded the U.S. failed to take sufficient precautions, used flawed intelligence, or acted with reckless disregard for civilian life. But that is still legally and factually different from proven, intentional targeting of a known school as a school. There is no established pattern—backed by independent investigations—that the U.S. ran a campaign of deliberately attacking schools knowing they were purely civilian educational facilities.

No established pattern of deliberate targeting of schools. That's based on broad independent investigations by the UN and human rights groups and journalists.

The US conducted tens of thousands of airstrikes in Iran, Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria, Pakistan, and Yemen. Comparatively, the numbers of claimed schools that were hit are barely double digit, out of tens of thousands of airstrikes. That's a 0.1% error rate which is significantly lower than any military in history. Is it excusable? No. Could it be better? Yes. But for any critic also engaged in warfare to claim some kind of moral superiority is an absolute farce.

It's not that the US deliberately hits schools. It's that they don't care if they do. Why would they? Have they ever been held accountable for faulty targeting? No. The world gets barely more than a shrug. So why would they do painstaking quality checks on their intelligence if faulty targeting is no one's business?

Does Iran care? Does Russia? No. Have they ever even admitted wrongdoing or shown an ounce of remorse or regret? No.

Yet those are the exact countries that people like you who hold up as your champions and ideals as you nod at each other while nattering on complaining about western colonialism, American global hegemony and so on. That's not whataboutism. That's confronting you on your hypocrisy and double standards.

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Anonymous wrote:Since the troll poster has requested more information from the WSJ, I'm happy to oblige with a gift link. There's a very clear satellite picture showing just how close the school is to the base. Anyone claiming that this school wasn't very much adjacent to the military base - and previously a part of it - is nutty.

The school is located on the edge of a compound linked to the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps, an elite branch of Iran’s armed forces, according to an analysis of images by The Wall Street Journal. There are indications the school building had previously been used as an IRGC headquarters, the official said.

The Journal analysis of satellite and open-source images shows the building was next to, and possibly part of, a compound linked to the IRGC. Farzin Nadimi, a senior fellow at the Washington Institute specializing in Iran’s military, said visual clues such as the size, number and arrangement of structures support the assessment that the site was a base, though there was little to suggest to him that it was an important one.

Google Maps identifies one building as a “cultural complex” of the IRGC, where young members play sports and train, Nadimi said. The compound also has a medical facility. A photograph pinned to the location on Google Maps shows a sign that says, “Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps Navy Medical Command.”

https://www.wsj.com/world/middle-east/iran-us-school-strike-07d8ffac?st=o8z38t&reflink=desktopwebshare_permalink

Being "close to" a base is no excuse for bombing a school. No one would be saying "oh that's ok, it's understandable they killed my kid" if their kid was killed because they attended one of the 150 DoED schools co-located on a military base.

If it was the second day of bombing, you'd better believe American parents wouldn't be sending their kids to school anywhere, much less to a school co-located on a military base. But do keep repeating yourself over and over and over...

You’re terrible. We all had to go back to school and work on 9/12. War doesn’t make us hide under tunnels like Israelis can

+1 No one expects the military to bomb elementary schools. Stop trying to justify this incident.

No one expected the US military to bomb elementary schools. And, they wouldn't have, but for Hegseth and Trump and their derangement over the "queering of the military" or whatever the F else imaginary grievance du jour that makes them think they need to tear up longstanding rules of engagement, ignore Geneva Conventions, upend JAG corps etc.

So that's one f'ed up thing going on. And it's new. But we Americans hope to throw those m-f-ers out and put them on trial. Wish Iran could say the same.

But it's pretty much a given for Russia to do that to Ukrainian schools. Along with Iran and Hezbollah etc. They've bombed schools, hospitals and civilian targets with impunity. And without accountability to the international community, what's the point of even expecting accountability? We can't have a UN Security Council that gives their buddies a pass for war crimes, whether it's Israel, or whether it's Iran, Russia, China or anyone else - even the US. Currently those institutions have shown themselves to be impotent, pointless and useless. And it sucks.

None of it's justifiable or excusable, nobody should get a pass - even those who think they deserve some kind of morality pass because they hate the US and Israel. And, along with it, the bad-faith "negotiations" that are straight up delusional. It's the perfect set-up to lead nations into wars. Our whole global community system is broken.

Why wouldn't you expect the US military to attack a school? The were reported strikes in schools in Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria, Pakistan, and Yemen. Why should Iran be any exception

I just asked AI to give a synthesis in response to your accusation - the response is that accidents happen, but to ascribe intentionality and evil intent or to claim it's a widespread and frequent phenomenon to be expected significantly misses the mark:

Short answer: no—there is not evidence of widespread, independently corroborated cases where the U.S. military knowingly and deliberately attacked schools as schools in Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria, Pakistan, or Yemen. What does exist is a grim record of schools being hit, sometimes with very high civilian casualties, in strikes the U.S. has variously described as mistakes, bad intelligence, misidentification, or collateral damage near what it claimed were legitimate military targets.

In all of those theaters, you can find documented incidents where school buildings, madrassas, or school buses were struck—often investigated by the UN, human‑rights groups, or journalists. In some cases, those investigations concluded the U.S. failed to take sufficient precautions, used flawed intelligence, or acted with reckless disregard for civilian life. But that is still legally and factually different from proven, intentional targeting of a known school as a school. There is no established pattern—backed by independent investigations—that the U.S. ran a campaign of deliberately attacking schools knowing they were purely civilian educational facilities.

No established pattern of deliberate targeting of schools. That's based on broad independent investigations by the UN and human rights groups and journalists.

The US conducted tens of thousands of airstrikes in Iran, Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria, Pakistan, and Yemen. Comparatively, the numbers of claimed schools that were hit are barely double digit, out of tens of thousands of airstrikes. That's a 0.1% error rate which is significantly lower than any military in history. Is it excusable? No. Could it be better? Yes. But for any critic also engaged in warfare to claim some kind of moral superiority is an absolute farce.

A bit amusing how you're defending the same regime that just attacked a desalination plant, a bank, and an oil field that will result in one of the biggest ecological disasters in recent history reminiscent of a dirty bomb where the population will be poisoned and experience harms like cancer for decades to come.

Dude. You need better news sources. Iran has bombed desalinization plants, oilfields and refineries all across the Gulf states. As for banks, Iran hasn't used missiles but much more insidious measures like cyber attacks on US, Israeli and Gulf State banks and financial networks.

Let's not forget about the widespread global economic and environmental disaster unfolding as a result of Iran choking off the Strait of Hormuz, cutting nations off from needed food supplies, from needs for fertilizer and other crucial goods. Iran is indiscriminately firing on vessels. Even Chinese tankers turned back, after seeing vessels ahead of them being put at risk. India is already in an LPG shortage crisis. Iran is at war with the entire world.

The foundation of your comment is that Iran has no right, none, to self-defense.

Since when does legitimate self defense include firing on random civilian vessels?

Do you even listen to yourself or bother to think this stuff through before posting?

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Anonymous wrote:Since the troll poster has requested more information from the WSJ, I'm happy to oblige with a gift link. There's a very clear satellite picture showing just how close the school is to the base. Anyone claiming that this school wasn't very much adjacent to the military base - and previously a part of it - is nutty.

The school is located on the edge of a compound linked to the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps, an elite branch of Iran’s armed forces, according to an analysis of images by The Wall Street Journal. There are indications the school building had previously been used as an IRGC headquarters, the official said.

The Journal analysis of satellite and open-source images shows the building was next to, and possibly part of, a compound linked to the IRGC. Farzin Nadimi, a senior fellow at the Washington Institute specializing in Iran’s military, said visual clues such as the size, number and arrangement of structures support the assessment that the site was a base, though there was little to suggest to him that it was an important one.

Google Maps identifies one building as a “cultural complex” of the IRGC, where young members play sports and train, Nadimi said. The compound also has a medical facility. A photograph pinned to the location on Google Maps shows a sign that says, “Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps Navy Medical Command.”

https://www.wsj.com/world/middle-east/iran-us-school-strike-07d8ffac?st=o8z38t&reflink=desktopwebshare_permalink

Being "close to" a base is no excuse for bombing a school. No one would be saying "oh that's ok, it's understandable they killed my kid" if their kid was killed because they attended one of the 150 DoED schools co-located on a military base.

If it was the second day of bombing, you'd better believe American parents wouldn't be sending their kids to school anywhere, much less to a school co-located on a military base. But do keep repeating yourself over and over and over...

You’re terrible. We all had to go back to school and work on 9/12. War doesn’t make us hide under tunnels like Israelis can

+1 No one expects the military to bomb elementary schools. Stop trying to justify this incident.

No one expected the US military to bomb elementary schools. And, they wouldn't have, but for Hegseth and Trump and their derangement over the "queering of the military" or whatever the F else imaginary grievance du jour that makes them think they need to tear up longstanding rules of engagement, ignore Geneva Conventions, upend JAG corps etc.

So that's one f'ed up thing going on. And it's new. But we Americans hope to throw those m-f-ers out and put them on trial. Wish Iran could say the same.

But it's pretty much a given for Russia to do that to Ukrainian schools. Along with Iran and Hezbollah etc. They've bombed schools, hospitals and civilian targets with impunity. And without accountability to the international community, what's the point of even expecting accountability? We can't have a UN Security Council that gives their buddies a pass for war crimes, whether it's Israel, or whether it's Iran, Russia, China or anyone else - even the US. Currently those institutions have shown themselves to be impotent, pointless and useless. And it sucks.

None of it's justifiable or excusable, nobody should get a pass - even those who think they deserve some kind of morality pass because they hate the US and Israel. And, along with it, the bad-faith "negotiations" that are straight up delusional. It's the perfect set-up to lead nations into wars. Our whole global community system is broken.

No. Every single one of Israel's prime ministers is a war criminal from the beginning. And there are very few decent Israeli jews. Look at the polls on their views. So don't compare any other country to Israel.

People despise Israel. Like 99% of the world's population. You need to wrap your head around that fact.

Then you might see why Americans are against this illegal war. If you lived in 150+ countries in the world, how you're arguing would not even be taken seriously. They're already keen to the lies and misdirects.

There's no sense trying to change corrupt minds. They're immutable. The lashing out from them trying to defend the indefensible is the intended consequence.

Our kids and our kids' kids are going to do historical research one day and they'll be going through internet forum archives that are rich with zionist propagandist lies and misdirects.

DP. No. YOU hate Israel. 99% of the world does not despise them. You know who IS despised? Iran, Hamas, Hezbollah, ISIS. You need to wrap your head around that fact.

Is this delusion or paid astroturfing?

Are you the “Zionist this/zionist that” poster? Might want to ask yourself your own question. I hope you’re getting paid handsomely by your Iranian handlers.

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Anonymous wrote:Wouldn't be surprised if this was done on purpose. Not sure their motivation but they DO love to murder innocent people, of this we can be sure.

Just check what US soldiers did in Iraq or in Mai Lai Vietnam for starters...

No Gun Ri Massacre

The No Gun Ri Massacre occurred during the Korean War from July 26 to 29, 1950, when U.S. soldiers opened fire on unarmed South Korean civilians seeking safety, killing hundreds. This horrific incident is considered a war crime due to the deliberate targeting of civilians, violating international humanitarian law. For decades, it was ignored, but survivor stories emerged in the late '90s, leading to an apology from the U.S. Army.

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Anonymous wrote:Since the troll poster has requested more information from the WSJ, I'm happy to oblige with a gift link. There's a very clear satellite picture showing just how close the school is to the base. Anyone claiming that this school wasn't very much adjacent to the military base - and previously a part of it - is nutty.

The school is located on the edge of a compound linked to the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps, an elite branch of Iran’s armed forces, according to an analysis of images by The Wall Street Journal. There are indications the school building had previously been used as an IRGC headquarters, the official said.

The Journal analysis of satellite and open-source images shows the building was next to, and possibly part of, a compound linked to the IRGC. Farzin Nadimi, a senior fellow at the Washington Institute specializing in Iran’s military, said visual clues such as the size, number and arrangement of structures support the assessment that the site was a base, though there was little to suggest to him that it was an important one.

Google Maps identifies one building as a “cultural complex” of the IRGC, where young members play sports and train, Nadimi said. The compound also has a medical facility. A photograph pinned to the location on Google Maps shows a sign that says, “Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps Navy Medical Command.”

https://www.wsj.com/world/middle-east/iran-us-school-strike-07d8ffac?st=o8z38t&reflink=desktopwebshare_permalink

Being "close to" a base is no excuse for bombing a school. No one would be saying "oh that's ok, it's understandable they killed my kid" if their kid was killed because they attended one of the 150 DoED schools co-located on a military base.

If it was the second day of bombing, you'd better believe American parents wouldn't be sending their kids to school anywhere, much less to a school co-located on a military base. But do keep repeating yourself over and over and over...

You’re terrible. We all had to go back to school and work on 9/12. War doesn’t make us hide under tunnels like Israelis can

+1 No one expects the military to bomb elementary schools. Stop trying to justify this incident.

No one expected the US military to bomb elementary schools. And, they wouldn't have, but for Hegseth and Trump and their derangement over the "queering of the military" or whatever the F else imaginary grievance du jour that makes them think they need to tear up longstanding rules of engagement, ignore Geneva Conventions, upend JAG corps etc.

So that's one f'ed up thing going on. And it's new. But we Americans hope to throw those m-f-ers out and put them on trial. Wish Iran could say the same.

But it's pretty much a given for Russia to do that to Ukrainian schools. Along with Iran and Hezbollah etc. They've bombed schools, hospitals and civilian targets with impunity. And without accountability to the international community, what's the point of even expecting accountability? We can't have a UN Security Council that gives their buddies a pass for war crimes, whether it's Israel, or whether it's Iran, Russia, China or anyone else - even the US. Currently those institutions have shown themselves to be impotent, pointless and useless. And it sucks.

None of it's justifiable or excusable, nobody should get a pass - even those who think they deserve some kind of morality pass because they hate the US and Israel. And, along with it, the bad-faith "negotiations" that are straight up delusional. It's the perfect set-up to lead nations into wars. Our whole global community system is broken.

Why wouldn't you expect the US military to attack a school? The were reported strikes in schools in Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria, Pakistan, and Yemen. Why should Iran be any exception

I just asked AI to give a synthesis in response to your accusation - the response is that accidents happen, but to ascribe intentionality and evil intent or to claim it's a widespread and frequent phenomenon to be expected significantly misses the mark:

Short answer: no—there is not evidence of widespread, independently corroborated cases where the U.S. military knowingly and deliberately attacked schools as schools in Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria, Pakistan, or Yemen. What does exist is a grim record of schools being hit, sometimes with very high civilian casualties, in strikes the U.S. has variously described as mistakes, bad intelligence, misidentification, or collateral damage near what it claimed were legitimate military targets.

In all of those theaters, you can find documented incidents where school buildings, madrassas, or school buses were struck—often investigated by the UN, human‑rights groups, or journalists. In some cases, those investigations concluded the U.S. failed to take sufficient precautions, used flawed intelligence, or acted with reckless disregard for civilian life. But that is still legally and factually different from proven, intentional targeting of a known school as a school. There is no established pattern—backed by independent investigations—that the U.S. ran a campaign of deliberately attacking schools knowing they were purely civilian educational facilities.

No established pattern of deliberate targeting of schools. That's based on broad independent investigations by the UN and human rights groups and journalists.

The US conducted tens of thousands of airstrikes in Iran, Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria, Pakistan, and Yemen. Comparatively, the numbers of claimed schools that were hit are barely double digit, out of tens of thousands of airstrikes. That's a 0.1% error rate which is significantly lower than any military in history. Is it excusable? No. Could it be better? Yes. But for any critic also engaged in warfare to claim some kind of moral superiority is an absolute farce.

A bit amusing how you're defending the same regime that just attacked a desalination plant, a bank, and an oil field that will result in one of the biggest ecological disasters in recent history reminiscent of a dirty bomb where the population will be poisoned and experience harms like cancer for decades to come.

Dude. You need better news sources. Iran has bombed desalinization plants, oilfields and refineries all across the Gulf states. As for banks, Iran hasn't used missiles but much more insidious measures like cyber attacks on US, Israeli and Gulf State banks and financial networks.

Let's not forget about the widespread global economic and environmental disaster unfolding as a result of Iran choking off the Strait of Hormuz, cutting nations off from needed food supplies, from needs for fertilizer and other crucial goods. Iran is indiscriminately firing on vessels. Even Chinese tankers turned back, after seeing vessels ahead of them being put at risk. India is already in an LPG shortage crisis. Iran is at war with the entire world.

The foundation of your comment is that Iran has no right, none, to self-defense.

Since when does legitimate self defense include firing on random civilian vessels?

Do you even listen to yourself or bother to think this stuff through before posting?

They've said the strait is closed. They are firing on ships that continue to breech their front line. They are using the tools at their disposal trying to pressure the rest of the world to put a stop to the American and Israeli aggression. Your expectation seems to be that they remain entirely nonviolent and adhere to rules their enemy has made clear they will not be bound by.