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Anonymous wrote:Reports like this make me grateful I have avoided McLean for all four of my DCs. The club seems to struggle for identity, perhaps because it is small, so it defaults to a country club environment dominated by parent capture. TM sounds like a disaster, glad they locked their team in for next year so the toxicity doesn’t metastasize to the clubs we play at.

Dont worry, she will use her daughter to draw in your kid, shall we say lady bug

Huge problems ahead for this team. The dynamic has already chased out its best player (leaving next year). When you let a parent become the queen and the coach become her vassal, you end up with something that might work for a while but it eventually collapses, especially when the queen decamps for another realm.

Can someone explain this further? It's one person, and even if that somehow results in more playing time for one player, there are 10 other players on the field next year.

Parent-controlled teams always break apart. There are countless examples including most recently, 2012 SYC.

No u-little team stays together. Teams that win a lot at u-little have players, ehem, or should i say parents, who get a big head even though winning at those ages has little correlation with developing skills or long term success. But even aside from that, going from 7v7 to 9v9 to 11v11 means team make-up will change. And players develop at different rates. But losing a star player isn't necessarily bad for the rest of the team. It can lead to better team play and more development for those who stay. Better development even if a slightly lower winning percentage. U-little parents are often too focused on winning. I want my DC to be developed to win at u16 and u17, when technical play will beat a strategy based on long ball to one or two athletic players.

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Anonymous wrote:Reports like this make me grateful I have avoided McLean for all four of my DCs. The club seems to struggle for identity, perhaps because it is small, so it defaults to a country club environment dominated by parent capture. TM sounds like a disaster, glad they locked their team in for next year so the toxicity doesn’t metastasize to the clubs we play at.

Dont worry, she will use her daughter to draw in your kid, shall we say lady bug

Huge problems ahead for this team. The dynamic has already chased out its best player (leaving next year). When you let a parent become the queen and the coach become her vassal, you end up with something that might work for a while but it eventually collapses, especially when the queen decamps for another realm.

Can someone explain this further? It's one person, and even if that somehow results in more playing time for one player, there are 10 other players on the field next year.

Parent-controlled teams always break apart. There are countless examples including most recently, 2012 SYC.

How can one parent or even a few parents control a team? I don't understand what that means or looks like.

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Anonymous wrote:Reports like this make me grateful I have avoided McLean for all four of my DCs. The club seems to struggle for identity, perhaps because it is small, so it defaults to a country club environment dominated by parent capture. TM sounds like a disaster, glad they locked their team in for next year so the toxicity doesn’t metastasize to the clubs we play at.

Dont worry, she will use her daughter to draw in your kid, shall we say lady bug

Huge problems ahead for this team. The dynamic has already chased out its best player (leaving next year). When you let a parent become the queen and the coach become her vassal, you end up with something that might work for a while but it eventually collapses, especially when the queen decamps for another realm.

Can someone explain this further? It's one person, and even if that somehow results in more playing time for one player, there are 10 other players on the field next year.

Parent-controlled teams always break apart. There are countless examples including most recently, 2012 SYC.

It definitely doesn’t help that the coach is continuing with that team. I’m guessing some players have had enough after two years.

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Anonymous wrote:Reports like this make me grateful I have avoided McLean for all four of my DCs. The club seems to struggle for identity, perhaps because it is small, so it defaults to a country club environment dominated by parent capture. TM sounds like a disaster, glad they locked their team in for next year so the toxicity doesn’t metastasize to the clubs we play at.

Dont worry, she will use her daughter to draw in your kid, shall we say lady bug

Huge problems ahead for this team. The dynamic has already chased out its best player (leaving next year). When you let a parent become the queen and the coach become her vassal, you end up with something that might work for a while but it eventually collapses, especially when the queen decamps for another realm.

Can someone explain this further? It's one person, and even if that somehow results in more playing time for one player, there are 10 other players on the field next year.

Parent-controlled teams always break apart. There are countless examples including most recently, 2012 SYC.

Or 2014G GFR — a year and a half ago they were the number 1 team in VA. Now their best players are sprinkled all over the DMV. Nothing good lasts forever and especially when you have bad actors involved.

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Anonymous wrote:Reports like this make me grateful I have avoided McLean for all four of my DCs. The club seems to struggle for identity, perhaps because it is small, so it defaults to a country club environment dominated by parent capture. TM sounds like a disaster, glad they locked their team in for next year so the toxicity doesn’t metastasize to the clubs we play at.

Dont worry, she will use her daughter to draw in your kid, shall we say lady bug

Huge problems ahead for this team. The dynamic has already chased out its best player (leaving next year). When you let a parent become the queen and the coach become her vassal, you end up with something that might work for a while but it eventually collapses, especially when the queen decamps for another realm.

Can someone explain this further? It's one person, and even if that somehow results in more playing time for one player, there are 10 other players on the field next year.

Parent-controlled teams always break apart. There are countless examples including most recently, 2012 SYC.

lol the team has no dominoes

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Anonymous wrote:Reports like this make me grateful I have avoided McLean for all four of my DCs. The club seems to struggle for identity, perhaps because it is small, so it defaults to a country club environment dominated by parent capture. TM sounds like a disaster, glad they locked their team in for next year so the toxicity doesn’t metastasize to the clubs we play at.

Dont worry, she will use her daughter to draw in your kid, shall we say lady bug

Huge problems ahead for this team. The dynamic has already chased out its best player (leaving next year). When you let a parent become the queen and the coach become her vassal, you end up with something that might work for a while but it eventually collapses, especially when the queen decamps for another realm.

Can someone explain this further? It's one person, and even if that somehow results in more playing time for one player, there are 10 other players on the field next year.

So far it’s only one player we know of. But I can tell you that more dominoes will fall. Stay tuned.

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Anonymous wrote:some MYS offers went out based on those practice sessions. Official ID session is February 17. See: https://mcleansoccer.org/ga-idsessions/ for details

Correct. Most of the rising u13 team is locked in already. Probably only a few spots left at this point.

But not all of their best girls committed.

Ok, so your kid is the one who hasn’t yet, but most others have. Most aren’t going to FVU and most of those kids are staying together. It is a bad look to sit on the offer for several weeks, especially as all the other sessions continue to get delayed. I am sure you know this but coaches are spiteful, so just be careful.

Nice try but not my kid. A bad look is a club trying to lock kids in during the Fall season for a team that won’t play until almost a year later. They are using fomo against you and you’re trying to use that as a reason for why others should make rushed decisions without complete information.

Asking families to commit in November for the following year is a sh*tty thing to do especially for rising u13 kids. But I wouldn’t expect any less from that clown of a coach.

just curious on the hostility here since we're considering MYS as an option. An old teammates moved to the team and they seem generally happy with the situation. Why don't people like the coach? I know he moved over from VYS, but he doesn't seem as polarizing as other coaches mentioned here.

I’ve heard positive things as well. The only negative is roster size.

There is one parent who runs the team from behind the curtain. And not in a good way. And the coach prefers the girls who buy his private training services. If you’re not tithing, you’re not getting minutes.

Ah yes, the deluxe package: private training, captain’s armband, playing up, and guaranteed minutes. Might as well throw in a free mental aid kit too.

And McLean coaches aren’t allowed to private coach their players. See that’s going as well as it always has over there. The one parent controlling everything is shameless.

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Anonymous wrote:some MYS offers went out based on those practice sessions. Official ID session is February 17. See: https://mcleansoccer.org/ga-idsessions/ for details

Correct. Most of the rising u13 team is locked in already. Probably only a few spots left at this point.

But not all of their best girls committed.

Ok, so your kid is the one who hasn’t yet, but most others have. Most aren’t going to FVU and most of those kids are staying together. It is a bad look to sit on the offer for several weeks, especially as all the other sessions continue to get delayed. I am sure you know this but coaches are spiteful, so just be careful.

Nice try but not my kid. A bad look is a club trying to lock kids in during the Fall season for a team that won’t play until almost a year later. They are using fomo against you and you’re trying to use that as a reason for why others should make rushed decisions without complete information.

Asking families to commit in November for the following year is a sh*tty thing to do especially for rising u13 kids. But I wouldn’t expect any less from that clown of a coach.

just curious on the hostility here since we're considering MYS as an option. An old teammates moved to the team and they seem generally happy with the situation. Why don't people like the coach? I know he moved over from VYS, but he doesn't seem as polarizing as other coaches mentioned here.

I’ve heard positive things as well. The only negative is roster size.

There is one parent who runs the team from behind the curtain. And not in a good way. And the coach prefers the girls who buy his private training services. If you’re not tithing, you’re not getting minutes.

Ah yes, the deluxe package: private training, captain’s armband, playing up, and guaranteed minutes. Might as well throw in a free mental aid kit too.

This is very specific and funny that the TM and coach are probably reading this.

No sympathy for families staying though. Team isn’t some powerhouse.

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Anonymous wrote:some MYS offers went out based on those practice sessions. Official ID session is February 17. See: https://mcleansoccer.org/ga-idsessions/ for details

Correct. Most of the rising u13 team is locked in already. Probably only a few spots left at this point.

But not all of their best girls committed.

Ok, so your kid is the one who hasn’t yet, but most others have. Most aren’t going to FVU and most of those kids are staying together. It is a bad look to sit on the offer for several weeks, especially as all the other sessions continue to get delayed. I am sure you know this but coaches are spiteful, so just be careful.

Nice try but not my kid. A bad look is a club trying to lock kids in during the Fall season for a team that won’t play until almost a year later. They are using fomo against you and you’re trying to use that as a reason for why others should make rushed decisions without complete information.

Asking families to commit in November for the following year is a sh*tty thing to do especially for rising u13 kids. But I wouldn’t expect any less from that clown of a coach.

just curious on the hostility here since we're considering MYS as an option. An old teammates moved to the team and they seem generally happy with the situation. Why don't people like the coach? I know he moved over from VYS, but he doesn't seem as polarizing as other coaches mentioned here.

I’ve heard positive things as well. The only negative is roster size.

There is one parent who runs the team from behind the curtain. And not in a good way. And the coach prefers the girls who buy his private training services. If you’re not tithing, you’re not getting minutes.

Eww, but if so, why would everyone want to stay together with that situation?

Because when you’re in a crowded room and you rip a nasty fart (the silent high methane kind like when you’re lactose intolerant but you eat a gallon of breyers extra creamy vanilla), everyone subtly looks at each other to confirm that in fact *no one* was the culprit.

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Anonymous wrote:some MYS offers went out based on those practice sessions. Official ID session is February 17. See: https://mcleansoccer.org/ga-idsessions/ for details

Correct. Most of the rising u13 team is locked in already. Probably only a few spots left at this point.

But not all of their best girls committed.

Ok, so your kid is the one who hasn’t yet, but most others have. Most aren’t going to FVU and most of those kids are staying together. It is a bad look to sit on the offer for several weeks, especially as all the other sessions continue to get delayed. I am sure you know this but coaches are spiteful, so just be careful.

Nice try but not my kid. A bad look is a club trying to lock kids in during the Fall season for a team that won’t play until almost a year later. They are using fomo against you and you’re trying to use that as a reason for why others should make rushed decisions without complete information.

Asking families to commit in November for the following year is a sh*tty thing to do especially for rising u13 kids. But I wouldn’t expect any less from that clown of a coach.

just curious on the hostility here since we're considering MYS as an option. An old teammates moved to the team and they seem generally happy with the situation. Why don't people like the coach? I know he moved over from VYS, but he doesn't seem as polarizing as other coaches mentioned here.

I’ve heard positive things as well. The only negative is roster size.

There is one parent who runs the team from behind the curtain. And not in a good way. And the coach prefers the girls who buy his private training services. If you’re not tithing, you’re not getting minutes.

Ah yes, the deluxe package: private training, captain’s armband, playing up, and guaranteed minutes. Might as well throw in a free mental aid kit too.

Why would we leave a safe warm house to sleep outside? Put your head down, pay your taxes, and move along. Every club has its warts, and once you learn to manage one kind of rash it’s easier to keep doing that rather than get a new rash.

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Anonymous wrote:some MYS offers went out based on those practice sessions. Official ID session is February 17. See: https://mcleansoccer.org/ga-idsessions/ for details

Correct. Most of the rising u13 team is locked in already. Probably only a few spots left at this point.

But not all of their best girls committed.

Ok, so your kid is the one who hasn’t yet, but most others have. Most aren’t going to FVU and most of those kids are staying together. It is a bad look to sit on the offer for several weeks, especially as all the other sessions continue to get delayed. I am sure you know this but coaches are spiteful, so just be careful.

Nice try but not my kid. A bad look is a club trying to lock kids in during the Fall season for a team that won’t play until almost a year later. They are using fomo against you and you’re trying to use that as a reason for why others should make rushed decisions without complete information.

Asking families to commit in November for the following year is a sh*tty thing to do especially for rising u13 kids. But I wouldn’t expect any less from that clown of a coach.

just curious on the hostility here since we're considering MYS as an option. An old teammates moved to the team and they seem generally happy with the situation. Why don't people like the coach? I know he moved over from VYS, but he doesn't seem as polarizing as other coaches mentioned here.

I’ve heard positive things as well. The only negative is roster size.

There is one parent who runs the team from behind the curtain. And not in a good way. And the coach prefers the girls who buy his private training services. If you’re not tithing, you’re not getting minutes.

Eww, but if so, why would everyone want to stay together with that situation?

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Anonymous wrote:some MYS offers went out based on those practice sessions. Official ID session is February 17. See: https://mcleansoccer.org/ga-idsessions/ for details

Correct. Most of the rising u13 team is locked in already. Probably only a few spots left at this point.

But not all of their best girls committed.

Ok, so your kid is the one who hasn’t yet, but most others have. Most aren’t going to FVU and most of those kids are staying together. It is a bad look to sit on the offer for several weeks, especially as all the other sessions continue to get delayed. I am sure you know this but coaches are spiteful, so just be careful.

Nice try but not my kid. A bad look is a club trying to lock kids in during the Fall season for a team that won’t play until almost a year later. They are using fomo against you and you’re trying to use that as a reason for why others should make rushed decisions without complete information.

Asking families to commit in November for the following year is a sh*tty thing to do especially for rising u13 kids. But I wouldn’t expect any less from that clown of a coach.

just curious on the hostility here since we're considering MYS as an option. An old teammates moved to the team and they seem generally happy with the situation. Why don't people like the coach? I know he moved over from VYS, but he doesn't seem as polarizing as other coaches mentioned here.

I’ve heard positive things as well. The only negative is roster size.

There is one parent who runs the team from behind the curtain. And not in a good way. And the coach prefers the girls who buy his private training services. If you’re not tithing, you’re not getting minutes.

If you are fully paid, the old club has to release the player within five business days. If you're not, they have to tell you that and also tell VYSA that they're holding it because you signed an agreement specifying that you would pay whatever the fee is. Once you pay, you get released. You can't go from one ECNL club to another during the year, though.