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Anonymous wrote:at this point i think the dems should cut their losses and pass the cr and enable the legislative branch of govt function again, however terribly it may be. it's better than zero.

Absolutely not. Once the populous actually sees how much their ACA premiums go up on Nov 1 they’ll understand what the Dems are fighting for and how corrupt the GOP is

So the only way ACA can survive is through massive subsidies? Sounds like it needs to be reformed or killed.

What do you not understand about how fabulous the ACA is?

Go back to your hole MAGA

LOL, it's so fabulous people can't even afford the most basic plans. Maybe it needs to be less fabulous and more affordable.

When the ACA goes away Healthcare costs go up. How do you not understand that?
When the ACA goes away Healthcare costs go up IE PROJECT 2025 not like they didn't write it down.

How did healthcare work before aca? Should go back to that people would have to work .

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Anonymous wrote:at this point i think the dems should cut their losses and pass the cr and enable the legislative branch of govt function again, however terribly it may be. it's better than zero.

Absolutely not. Once the populous actually sees how much their ACA premiums go up on Nov 1 they’ll understand what the Dems are fighting for and how corrupt the GOP is

So the only way ACA can survive is through massive subsidies? Sounds like it needs to be reformed or killed.

Can we say the same thing for Space X? It can only survive with government subsidies?

What subsidies is Space X specifically receiving? Payment for services rendered are not subsidies.

Now if you were talking about ULA... That was basically the Government paying for nothing.

There’s an implicit subsidy… the federal government is the anchor tenant that has allowed SpaceX to survive.

LOL, payment for services rendered is not a subsidy. Keep trying.

Do you own stock in one of Musk’s companies? You sound very protective of them.

Nah, just find liberal derangement over Space X and Musk to be amusing.

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Most Americans don’t care whether SpaceX and Tesla exist. Let the market decide. If they fail, they fail. 🤷‍♀️

NASA invested in commercializing space via the SpaceX company, which provided it with capital and authorization for various contracts that wouldn’t have been possible otherwise.

https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2025/09/nasa-spacex-elon-musk-ambitions/683559/

I'd like to see a referendum on spending tax money on going to Mars. I can't imagine most U.S. citizens are interested in paying more for healthcare for the sake of getting to Mars. Like sure, I'll pay higher premiums so we can send a few spaceships to Mars in a few decades. So worth it to the average citizen wanting to retire by 65.

This is unbelievably obtuse. Federal spending on healthcare is about $2,000B per year. Federal spending on human space flight is roughly $10B per year. Are you seriously suggesting asking to compare things that are imbalanced by a factor of 200? Which would you rather have, a Ferrari or a Hot Wheels?

The salaries of federal workers are a drop in the bucket next to the total national debt. But alas, we have to start somewhere, correct, even if it’s a drop in the bucket?

I ran though the numbers a while ago so don't quote me, but it was something crazy like you could remove all the spending except DOD and social security, and still have a deficit.

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Anonymous wrote:at this point i think the dems should cut their losses and pass the cr and enable the legislative branch of govt function again, however terribly it may be. it's better than zero.

Absolutely not. Once the populous actually sees how much their ACA premiums go up on Nov 1 they’ll understand what the Dems are fighting for and how corrupt the GOP is

So the only way ACA can survive is through massive subsidies? Sounds like it needs to be reformed or killed.

Can we say the same thing for Space X? It can only survive with government subsidies?

What subsidies is Space X specifically receiving? Payment for services rendered are not subsidies.

Now if you were talking about ULA... That was basically the Government paying for nothing.

There’s an implicit subsidy… the federal government is the anchor tenant that has allowed SpaceX to survive.

LOL, payment for services rendered is not a subsidy. Keep trying.

Do you own stock in one of Musk’s companies? You sound very protective of them.

Nah, just find liberal derangement over Space X and Musk to be amusing.

m

Most Americans don’t care whether SpaceX and Tesla exist. Let the market decide. If they fail, they fail. 🤷‍♀️

NASA invested in commercializing space via the SpaceX company, which provided it with capital and authorization for various contracts that wouldn’t have been possible otherwise.

https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2025/09/nasa-spacex-elon-musk-ambitions/683559/

I'd like to see a referendum on spending tax money on going to Mars. I can't imagine most U.S. citizens are interested in paying more for healthcare for the sake of getting to Mars. Like sure, I'll pay higher premiums so we can send a few spaceships to Mars in a few decades. So worth it to the average citizen wanting to retire by 65.

This is unbelievably obtuse. Federal spending on healthcare is about $2,000B per year. Federal spending on human space flight is roughly $10B per year. Are you seriously suggesting asking to compare things that are imbalanced by a factor of 200? Which would you rather have, a Ferrari or a Hot Wheels?

The salaries of federal workers are a drop in the bucket next to the total national debt. But alas, we have to start somewhere, correct, even if it’s a drop in the bucket?

Nonsense. If the supposed problem is an unsustainable debt, then the salaries of federal workers are not needed for the solution. The solution requires a combination including higher taxes, reduced spending on Social Security, and/or reduced spending on Mediare/Medicaid. All the other drops in the bucket are optional, so claiming that squeezing civil service salaries is “starting somewhere” is disingenuous.

Anonymous wrote:Anyone know when the next vote is?

Tomorrow they vote again at 2:15 p.m.

Anyone know when the next vote is?

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Anonymous wrote:at this point i think the dems should cut their losses and pass the cr and enable the legislative branch of govt function again, however terribly it may be. it's better than zero.

Absolutely not. Once the populous actually sees how much their ACA premiums go up on Nov 1 they’ll understand what the Dems are fighting for and how corrupt the GOP is

So the only way ACA can survive is through massive subsidies? Sounds like it needs to be reformed or killed.

Can we say the same thing for Space X? It can only survive with government subsidies?

What subsidies is Space X specifically receiving? Payment for services rendered are not subsidies.

Now if you were talking about ULA... That was basically the Government paying for nothing.

There’s an implicit subsidy… the federal government is the anchor tenant that has allowed SpaceX to survive.

LOL, payment for services rendered is not a subsidy. Keep trying.

Do you own stock in one of Musk’s companies? You sound very protective of them.

Nah, just find liberal derangement over Space X and Musk to be amusing.

m

Most Americans don’t care whether SpaceX and Tesla exist. Let the market decide. If they fail, they fail. 🤷‍♀️

NASA invested in commercializing space via the SpaceX company, which provided it with capital and authorization for various contracts that wouldn’t have been possible otherwise.

https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2025/09/nasa-spacex-elon-musk-ambitions/683559/

I'd like to see a referendum on spending tax money on going to Mars. I can't imagine most U.S. citizens are interested in paying more for healthcare for the sake of getting to Mars. Like sure, I'll pay higher premiums so we can send a few spaceships to Mars in a few decades. So worth it to the average citizen wanting to retire by 65.

This is unbelievably obtuse. Federal spending on healthcare is about $2,000B per year. Federal spending on human space flight is roughly $10B per year. Are you seriously suggesting asking to compare things that are imbalanced by a factor of 200? Which would you rather have, a Ferrari or a Hot Wheels?

The salaries of federal workers are a drop in the bucket next to the total national debt. But alas, we have to start somewhere, correct, even if it’s a drop in the bucket?

From WH pool:
“I haven’t said it probably as bluntly as I just said it. So we’re going to be closing up Democrat programs that we think, that we disagree with. And they’re never going to open again.”

Apparently Friday will be another day of RIFs. Read for yourself.

Source:
https://www.forth.news/whpool/CU7kQ34Q7rAr1P1fZXpTk

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Anonymous wrote:at this point i think the dems should cut their losses and pass the cr and enable the legislative branch of govt function again, however terribly it may be. it's better than zero.

Absolutely not. Once the populous actually sees how much their ACA premiums go up on Nov 1 they’ll understand what the Dems are fighting for and how corrupt the GOP is

So the only way ACA can survive is through massive subsidies? Sounds like it needs to be reformed or killed.

Can we say the same thing for Space X? It can only survive with government subsidies?

What subsidies is Space X specifically receiving? Payment for services rendered are not subsidies.

Now if you were talking about ULA... That was basically the Government paying for nothing.

There’s an implicit subsidy… the federal government is the anchor tenant that has allowed SpaceX to survive.

LOL, payment for services rendered is not a subsidy. Keep trying.

Do you own stock in one of Musk’s companies? You sound very protective of them.

Nah, just find liberal derangement over Space X and Musk to be amusing.

m

Most Americans don’t care whether SpaceX and Tesla exist. Let the market decide. If they fail, they fail. 🤷‍♀️

NASA invested in commercializing space via the SpaceX company, which provided it with capital and authorization for various contracts that wouldn’t have been possible otherwise.

https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2025/09/nasa-spacex-elon-musk-ambitions/683559/

I'd like to see a referendum on spending tax money on going to Mars. I can't imagine most U.S. citizens are interested in paying more for healthcare for the sake of getting to Mars. Like sure, I'll pay higher premiums so we can send a few spaceships to Mars in a few decades. So worth it to the average citizen wanting to retire by 65.

This is unbelievably obtuse. Federal spending on healthcare is about $2,000B per year. Federal spending on human space flight is roughly $10B per year. Are you seriously suggesting asking to compare things that are imbalanced by a factor of 200? Which would you rather have, a Ferrari or a Hot Wheels?

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Anonymous wrote:at this point i think the dems should cut their losses and pass the cr and enable the legislative branch of govt function again, however terribly it may be. it's better than zero.

Absolutely not. Once the populous actually sees how much their ACA premiums go up on Nov 1 they’ll understand what the Dems are fighting for and how corrupt the GOP is

So the only way ACA can survive is through massive subsidies? Sounds like it needs to be reformed or killed.

Can we say the same thing for Space X? It can only survive with government subsidies?

What subsidies is Space X specifically receiving? Payment for services rendered are not subsidies.

Now if you were talking about ULA... That was basically the Government paying for nothing.

There’s an implicit subsidy… the federal government is the anchor tenant that has allowed SpaceX to survive.

LOL, payment for services rendered is not a subsidy. Keep trying.

Do you own stock in one of Musk’s companies? You sound very protective of them.

Nah, just find liberal derangement over Space X and Musk to be amusing.

m

Most Americans don’t care whether SpaceX and Tesla exist. Let the market decide. If they fail, they fail. 🤷‍♀️

NASA invested in commercializing space via the SpaceX company, which provided it with capital and authorization for various contracts that wouldn’t have been possible otherwise.

https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2025/09/nasa-spacex-elon-musk-ambitions/683559/

I'd like to see a referendum on spending tax money on going to Mars. I can't imagine most U.S. citizens are interested in paying more for healthcare for the sake of getting to Mars. Like sure, I'll pay higher premiums so we can send a few spaceships to Mars in a few decades. So worth it to the average citizen wanting to retire by 65.

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Anonymous wrote:at this point i think the dems should cut their losses and pass the cr and enable the legislative branch of govt function again, however terribly it may be. it's better than zero.

Absolutely not. Once the populous actually sees how much their ACA premiums go up on Nov 1 they’ll understand what the Dems are fighting for and how corrupt the GOP is

So the only way ACA can survive is through massive subsidies? Sounds like it needs to be reformed or killed.

Can we say the same thing for Space X? It can only survive with government subsidies?

What subsidies is Space X specifically receiving? Payment for services rendered are not subsidies.

Now if you were talking about ULA... That was basically the Government paying for nothing.

There’s an implicit subsidy… the federal government is the anchor tenant that has allowed SpaceX to survive.

LOL, payment for services rendered is not a subsidy. Keep trying.

Do you own stock in one of Musk’s companies? You sound very protective of them.

Nah, just find liberal derangement over Space X and Musk to be amusing.

m

Most Americans don’t care whether SpaceX and Tesla exist. Let the market decide. If they fail, they fail. 🤷‍♀️

NASA invested in commercializing space via the SpaceX company, which provided it with capital and authorization for various contracts that wouldn’t have been possible otherwise.

https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2025/09/nasa-spacex-elon-musk-ambitions/683559/

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Anonymous wrote:at this point i think the dems should cut their losses and pass the cr and enable the legislative branch of govt function again, however terribly it may be. it's better than zero.

Absolutely not. Once the populous actually sees how much their ACA premiums go up on Nov 1 they’ll understand what the Dems are fighting for and how corrupt the GOP is

So the only way ACA can survive is through massive subsidies? Sounds like it needs to be reformed or killed.

What do you not understand about how fabulous the ACA is?

Go back to your hole MAGA

LOL, it's so fabulous people can't even afford the most basic plans. Maybe it needs to be less fabulous and more affordable.

When the ACA goes away Healthcare costs go up. How do you not understand that?
When the ACA goes away Healthcare costs go up IE PROJECT 2025 not like they didn't write it down.

How is ACA going to go away? Why would health care costs go up?

Nobody can understand your babble.

NP. People with insurance subsidize those without insurance. Hospitals raise prices for insured people to make up the difference for the uninsured.

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Anonymous wrote:at this point i think the dems should cut their losses and pass the cr and enable the legislative branch of govt function again, however terribly it may be. it's better than zero.

Absolutely not. Once the populous actually sees how much their ACA premiums go up on Nov 1 they’ll understand what the Dems are fighting for and how corrupt the GOP is

So the only way ACA can survive is through massive subsidies? Sounds like it needs to be reformed or killed.

Can we say the same thing for Space X? It can only survive with government subsidies?

What subsidies is Space X specifically receiving? Payment for services rendered are not subsidies.

Now if you were talking about ULA... That was basically the Government paying for nothing.

There’s an implicit subsidy… the federal government is the anchor tenant that has allowed SpaceX to survive.

LOL, payment for services rendered is not a subsidy. Keep trying.

Do you own stock in one of Musk’s companies? You sound very protective of them.

Nah, just find liberal derangement over Space X and Musk to be amusing.

m

Most Americans don’t care whether SpaceX and Tesla exist. Let the market decide. If they fail, they fail. 🤷‍♀️

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Anonymous wrote:at this point i think the dems should cut their losses and pass the cr and enable the legislative branch of govt function again, however terribly it may be. it's better than zero.

Absolutely not. Once the populous actually sees how much their ACA premiums go up on Nov 1 they’ll understand what the Dems are fighting for and how corrupt the GOP is

So the only way ACA can survive is through massive subsidies? Sounds like it needs to be reformed or killed.

What do you not understand about how fabulous the ACA is?

Go back to your hole MAGA

LOL, it's so fabulous people can't even afford the most basic plans. Maybe it needs to be less fabulous and more affordable.

When the ACA goes away Healthcare costs go up. How do you not understand that?
When the ACA goes away Healthcare costs go up IE PROJECT 2025 not like they didn't write it down.

How is ACA going to go away? Why would health care costs go up?

Nobody can understand your babble.

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Anonymous wrote:at this point i think the dems should cut their losses and pass the cr and enable the legislative branch of govt function again, however terribly it may be. it's better than zero.

Absolutely not. Once the populous actually sees how much their ACA premiums go up on Nov 1 they’ll understand what the Dems are fighting for and how corrupt the GOP is

So the only way ACA can survive is through massive subsidies? Sounds like it needs to be reformed or killed.

Can we say the same thing for Space X? It can only survive with government subsidies?

What subsidies is Space X specifically receiving? Payment for services rendered are not subsidies.

Now if you were talking about ULA... That was basically the Government paying for nothing.

There’s an implicit subsidy… the federal government is the anchor tenant that has allowed SpaceX to survive.

LOL, payment for services rendered is not a subsidy. Keep trying.

Do you own stock in one of Musk’s companies? You sound very protective of them.

Nah, just find liberal derangement over Space X and Musk to be amusing.

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Anonymous wrote:at this point i think the dems should cut their losses and pass the cr and enable the legislative branch of govt function again, however terribly it may be. it's better than zero.

Absolutely not. Once the populous actually sees how much their ACA premiums go up on Nov 1 they’ll understand what the Dems are fighting for and how corrupt the GOP is

So the only way ACA can survive is through massive subsidies? Sounds like it needs to be reformed or killed.

What do you not understand about how fabulous the ACA is?

Go back to your hole MAGA

LOL, it's so fabulous people can't even afford the most basic plans. Maybe it needs to be less fabulous and more affordable.

Show evidence of a plan Republicans have to lower medical costs? Show evidence Trump has been screaming his plan since 2016 not one Repuke has show a plan to replace the ACA

No what will happen is costs wil have no caps, enriching Don's friends.