Anonymous
06/30/2025 09:40
Subject: What exactly is the democratic party going to stand for in 2026 and 2028?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Really great article by Andrew Sullivan in the NYT today about how the advances made for LGT rights are being set back by the extreme Left’s all or nothing approach to trans issues and trying to get rid of genders. It really lays out well how things have been taken off the rails and how it’s turning off so many Americans, this dyed in the wool Democrat included. The party needs to have a Sista Soljah moment with this contingent and show the world that yes, we are ok with trans people and want to support them, but there are limits, esp. when it comes to children. This could help remove this as a wedge issue and show that Dems don’t fall for all of the far Left nonsense.
This +100.
Unfortunately, I don't see the Dems shedding themselves of the extreme left’s all-or-nothing approach to trans issues and trying to get rid of genders. No more so than I see the Republicans shedding themselves of the extreme right's all-or-nothing approach to abortion.
Extremism on both sides is what is ruining our society.
So, dyed-in-the-wool democrat…what is the Dem position on trans rights? We know what the MAGA policy is on abortion.
Largely their position is that when there is a legal conflict between trans rights and women’s rights, trans rights is more important. For instance, the right to safety, privacy, and dignity that Democrats typically espouse for female prisoners is less important than the right of trans women to be placed in women’s prisons. Etc. In any event, their general position is that women’s rights are less important than trans rights.
huh??
What exactly are you confused about? It is quite clearly written.
Typical response from Dems..."huh" -- the continue to be obtuse.
The “huh” is avoidance. That PP knows that take is correct, but because that’s the current position of the Democrats on trans issues, she has to pretend confusion. They have nowhere else to go other than pretending confusion.
um no, it’s because it makes no sense to me. All this hysteria that is.
Signed the mom of 2 kids in suburban America.
Again if fox news didn’t exist would this even be discussed.
I actually would have said the same thing, until I read the article. I never heard any politician speak about the Trans issue on the campaign trail so I do think it was taken to a next level by Fox et al, but after reading Sullivan's article (I am the one who posted it in this chat) I see that it's an issue that is going on on the local level. It hasn't really popped for me as a parent of college students living in MoCo but I can see how it is affecting parents at the younger level. And, I do know several families with kids who are in the process of transitioning. They are supportive but at least 2 of them wonder if social contagion has played a role.
Anonymous
06/30/2025 09:28
Subject: What exactly is the democratic party going to stand for in 2026 and 2028?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Really great article by Andrew Sullivan in the NYT today about how the advances made for LGT rights are being set back by the extreme Left’s all or nothing approach to trans issues and trying to get rid of genders. It really lays out well how things have been taken off the rails and how it’s turning off so many Americans, this dyed in the wool Democrat included. The party needs to have a Sista Soljah moment with this contingent and show the world that yes, we are ok with trans people and want to support them, but there are limits, esp. when it comes to children. This could help remove this as a wedge issue and show that Dems don’t fall for all of the far Left nonsense.
This +100.
Unfortunately, I don't see the Dems shedding themselves of the extreme left’s all-or-nothing approach to trans issues and trying to get rid of genders. No more so than I see the Republicans shedding themselves of the extreme right's all-or-nothing approach to abortion.
Extremism on both sides is what is ruining our society.
So, dyed-in-the-wool democrat…what is the Dem position on trans rights? We know what the MAGA policy is on abortion.
Largely their position is that when there is a legal conflict between trans rights and women’s rights, trans rights is more important. For instance, the right to safety, privacy, and dignity that Democrats typically espouse for female prisoners is less important than the right of trans women to be placed in women’s prisons. Etc. In any event, their general position is that women’s rights are less important than trans rights.
huh??
What exactly are you confused about? It is quite clearly written.
Typical response from Dems..."huh" -- the continue to be obtuse.
The “huh” is avoidance. That PP knows that take is correct, but because that’s the current position of the Democrats on trans issues, she has to pretend confusion. They have nowhere else to go other than pretending confusion.
um no, it’s because it makes no sense to me. All this hysteria that is.
Signed the mom of 2 kids in suburban America.
Again if fox news didn’t exist would this even be discussed.
It’s not 2019 any more. You cannot be this ignorant.
You mean I am not succumbing to fear mongering? Like so many of you.
Anonymous
06/30/2025 00:50
Subject: What exactly is the democratic party going to stand for in 2026 and 2028?
I am a life long Dem. To be very honest, I am against illegal immigration and against the trans agenda, meaning teaching kids about it and allowing kids to transition medically.
Anonymous
06/30/2025 00:42
Subject: What exactly is the democratic party going to stand for in 2026 and 2028?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:If scandal-plagued Cuomo had won, every major Dem official in America woulda instantly endorsed him.
Dems refusing to quickly endorse Mamdani - who has none of those scandals - is a tell about the party's priorities & who they still think they answer to.
Promoting Cuban Socialism IS a scandal.
I’m a moderate Democrat and I desperately want the party to embrace Mamdani even if many of his ideas are stupid. He is charismatic, a hard worker, and not 82. He isn’t insane or on drugs like Trump’s people. He isn’t corrupt like traditional Democratic leadership. I can deal with idea stupidity—Trump is our president. My bar is low now.
Anonymous
06/29/2025 23:50
Subject: What exactly is the democratic party going to stand for in 2026 and 2028?
Anonymous wrote:If scandal-plagued Cuomo had won, every major Dem official in America woulda instantly endorsed him.
Dems refusing to quickly endorse Mamdani - who has none of those scandals - is a tell about the party's priorities & who they still think they answer to.
Promoting Cuban Socialism IS a scandal.
Anonymous
06/29/2025 23:46
Subject: What exactly is the democratic party going to stand for in 2026 and 2028?
If scandal-plagued Cuomo had won, every major Dem official in America woulda instantly endorsed him.
Dems refusing to quickly endorse Mamdani - who has none of those scandals - is a tell about the party's priorities & who they still think they answer to.
Dems refusing to quickly endorse Mamdani - who has none of those scandals - is a tell about the party's priorities & who they still think they answer to.
Anonymous
06/29/2025 22:38
Subject: What exactly is the democratic party going to stand for in 2026 and 2028?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Really great article by Andrew Sullivan in the NYT today about how the advances made for LGT rights are being set back by the extreme Left’s all or nothing approach to trans issues and trying to get rid of genders. It really lays out well how things have been taken off the rails and how it’s turning off so many Americans, this dyed in the wool Democrat included. The party needs to have a Sista Soljah moment with this contingent and show the world that yes, we are ok with trans people and want to support them, but there are limits, esp. when it comes to children. This could help remove this as a wedge issue and show that Dems don’t fall for all of the far Left nonsense.
This +100.
Unfortunately, I don't see the Dems shedding themselves of the extreme left’s all-or-nothing approach to trans issues and trying to get rid of genders. No more so than I see the Republicans shedding themselves of the extreme right's all-or-nothing approach to abortion.
Extremism on both sides is what is ruining our society.
So, dyed-in-the-wool democrat…what is the Dem position on trans rights? We know what the MAGA policy is on abortion.
Largely their position is that when there is a legal conflict between trans rights and women’s rights, trans rights is more important. For instance, the right to safety, privacy, and dignity that Democrats typically espouse for female prisoners is less important than the right of trans women to be placed in women’s prisons. Etc. In any event, their general position is that women’s rights are less important than trans rights.
huh??
What exactly are you confused about? It is quite clearly written.
Typical response from Dems..."huh" -- the continue to be obtuse.
The “huh” is avoidance. That PP knows that take is correct, but because that’s the current position of the Democrats on trans issues, she has to pretend confusion. They have nowhere else to go other than pretending confusion.
um no, it’s because it makes no sense to me. All this hysteria that is.
Signed the mom of 2 kids in suburban America.
Again if fox news didn’t exist would this even be discussed.
It’s not 2019 any more. You cannot be this ignorant.
Anonymous
06/29/2025 22:38
Subject: What exactly is the democratic party going to stand for in 2026 and 2028?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Really great article by Andrew Sullivan in the NYT today about how the advances made for LGT rights are being set back by the extreme Left’s all or nothing approach to trans issues and trying to get rid of genders. It really lays out well how things have been taken off the rails and how it’s turning off so many Americans, this dyed in the wool Democrat included. The party needs to have a Sista Soljah moment with this contingent and show the world that yes, we are ok with trans people and want to support them, but there are limits, esp. when it comes to children. This could help remove this as a wedge issue and show that Dems don’t fall for all of the far Left nonsense.
This +100.
Unfortunately, I don't see the Dems shedding themselves of the extreme left’s all-or-nothing approach to trans issues and trying to get rid of genders. No more so than I see the Republicans shedding themselves of the extreme right's all-or-nothing approach to abortion.
Extremism on both sides is what is ruining our society.
So, dyed-in-the-wool democrat…what is the Dem position on trans rights? We know what the MAGA policy is on abortion.
Largely their position is that when there is a legal conflict between trans rights and women’s rights, trans rights is more important. For instance, the right to safety, privacy, and dignity that Democrats typically espouse for female prisoners is less important than the right of trans women to be placed in women’s prisons. Etc. In any event, their general position is that women’s rights are less important than trans rights.
huh??
If you do not understand what was said, you're part of the problem.
+1
But I think Democrats will drive the party to the ground on this issue because admitting they are wrong is a bridge too far.
But the Republicans are the party of virtue 🤦🏻♀️
They are not. But the Democrats have lost that perception as well, which is a significant loss of trust.
Anonymous
06/29/2025 22:24
Subject: What exactly is the democratic party going to stand for in 2026 and 2028?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Really great article by Andrew Sullivan in the NYT today about how the advances made for LGT rights are being set back by the extreme Left’s all or nothing approach to trans issues and trying to get rid of genders. It really lays out well how things have been taken off the rails and how it’s turning off so many Americans, this dyed in the wool Democrat included. The party needs to have a Sista Soljah moment with this contingent and show the world that yes, we are ok with trans people and want to support them, but there are limits, esp. when it comes to children. This could help remove this as a wedge issue and show that Dems don’t fall for all of the far Left nonsense.
This +100.
Unfortunately, I don't see the Dems shedding themselves of the extreme left’s all-or-nothing approach to trans issues and trying to get rid of genders. No more so than I see the Republicans shedding themselves of the extreme right's all-or-nothing approach to abortion.
Extremism on both sides is what is ruining our society.
So, dyed-in-the-wool democrat…what is the Dem position on trans rights? We know what the MAGA policy is on abortion.
Largely their position is that when there is a legal conflict between trans rights and women’s rights, trans rights is more important. For instance, the right to safety, privacy, and dignity that Democrats typically espouse for female prisoners is less important than the right of trans women to be placed in women’s prisons. Etc. In any event, their general position is that women’s rights are less important than trans rights.
huh??
If you do not understand what was said, you're part of the problem.
+1
But I think Democrats will drive the party to the ground on this issue because admitting they are wrong is a bridge too far.
But the Republicans are the party of virtue 🤦🏻♀️
Honestly, neither the Democrats nor the Republicans are the party of virtue.
Anonymous
06/29/2025 22:18
Subject: What exactly is the democratic party going to stand for in 2026 and 2028?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Really great article by Andrew Sullivan in the NYT today about how the advances made for LGT rights are being set back by the extreme Left’s all or nothing approach to trans issues and trying to get rid of genders. It really lays out well how things have been taken off the rails and how it’s turning off so many Americans, this dyed in the wool Democrat included. The party needs to have a Sista Soljah moment with this contingent and show the world that yes, we are ok with trans people and want to support them, but there are limits, esp. when it comes to children. This could help remove this as a wedge issue and show that Dems don’t fall for all of the far Left nonsense.
This +100.
Unfortunately, I don't see the Dems shedding themselves of the extreme left’s all-or-nothing approach to trans issues and trying to get rid of genders. No more so than I see the Republicans shedding themselves of the extreme right's all-or-nothing approach to abortion.
Extremism on both sides is what is ruining our society.
So, dyed-in-the-wool democrat…what is the Dem position on trans rights? We know what the MAGA policy is on abortion.
Largely their position is that when there is a legal conflict between trans rights and women’s rights, trans rights is more important. For instance, the right to safety, privacy, and dignity that Democrats typically espouse for female prisoners is less important than the right of trans women to be placed in women’s prisons. Etc. In any event, their general position is that women’s rights are less important than trans rights.
huh??
What exactly are you confused about? It is quite clearly written.
Typical response from Dems..."huh" -- the continue to be obtuse.
The “huh” is avoidance. That PP knows that take is correct, but because that’s the current position of the Democrats on trans issues, she has to pretend confusion. They have nowhere else to go other than pretending confusion.
um no, it’s because it makes no sense to me. All this hysteria that is.
Signed the mom of 2 kids in suburban America.
Again if fox news didn’t exist would this even be discussed.
Please give me your take on this article: https://nypost.com/2025/06/26/us-news/gay-journalist-says-lgbtq-movement-has-gone-from-civil-rights-success-to-madness/
You don't find it odd that even a gay man agrees it has gone too far into radicalism?
Anonymous
06/29/2025 22:12
Subject: What exactly is the democratic party going to stand for in 2026 and 2028?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Really great article by Andrew Sullivan in the NYT today about how the advances made for LGT rights are being set back by the extreme Left’s all or nothing approach to trans issues and trying to get rid of genders. It really lays out well how things have been taken off the rails and how it’s turning off so many Americans, this dyed in the wool Democrat included. The party needs to have a Sista Soljah moment with this contingent and show the world that yes, we are ok with trans people and want to support them, but there are limits, esp. when it comes to children. This could help remove this as a wedge issue and show that Dems don’t fall for all of the far Left nonsense.
This +100.
Unfortunately, I don't see the Dems shedding themselves of the extreme left’s all-or-nothing approach to trans issues and trying to get rid of genders. No more so than I see the Republicans shedding themselves of the extreme right's all-or-nothing approach to abortion.
Extremism on both sides is what is ruining our society.
So, dyed-in-the-wool democrat…what is the Dem position on trans rights? We know what the MAGA policy is on abortion.
Largely their position is that when there is a legal conflict between trans rights and women’s rights, trans rights is more important. For instance, the right to safety, privacy, and dignity that Democrats typically espouse for female prisoners is less important than the right of trans women to be placed in women’s prisons. Etc. In any event, their general position is that women’s rights are less important than trans rights.
huh??
What exactly are you confused about? It is quite clearly written.
Typical response from Dems..."huh" -- the continue to be obtuse.
Right, just like all those Republican congressmen and congresswomen that can’t wait to discuss all the issues with their constituents at town halls.
Anonymous
06/29/2025 22:11
Subject: What exactly is the democratic party going to stand for in 2026 and 2028?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Really great article by Andrew Sullivan in the NYT today about how the advances made for LGT rights are being set back by the extreme Left’s all or nothing approach to trans issues and trying to get rid of genders. It really lays out well how things have been taken off the rails and how it’s turning off so many Americans, this dyed in the wool Democrat included. The party needs to have a Sista Soljah moment with this contingent and show the world that yes, we are ok with trans people and want to support them, but there are limits, esp. when it comes to children. This could help remove this as a wedge issue and show that Dems don’t fall for all of the far Left nonsense.
This +100.
Unfortunately, I don't see the Dems shedding themselves of the extreme left’s all-or-nothing approach to trans issues and trying to get rid of genders. No more so than I see the Republicans shedding themselves of the extreme right's all-or-nothing approach to abortion.
Extremism on both sides is what is ruining our society.
So, dyed-in-the-wool democrat…what is the Dem position on trans rights? We know what the MAGA policy is on abortion.
Largely their position is that when there is a legal conflict between trans rights and women’s rights, trans rights is more important. For instance, the right to safety, privacy, and dignity that Democrats typically espouse for female prisoners is less important than the right of trans women to be placed in women’s prisons. Etc. In any event, their general position is that women’s rights are less important than trans rights.
huh??
If you do not understand what was said, you're part of the problem.
+1
But I think Democrats will drive the party to the ground on this issue because admitting they are wrong is a bridge too far.
But the Republicans are the party of virtue 🤦🏻♀️
Anonymous
06/29/2025 22:10
Subject: What exactly is the democratic party going to stand for in 2026 and 2028?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Really great article by Andrew Sullivan in the NYT today about how the advances made for LGT rights are being set back by the extreme Left’s all or nothing approach to trans issues and trying to get rid of genders. It really lays out well how things have been taken off the rails and how it’s turning off so many Americans, this dyed in the wool Democrat included. The party needs to have a Sista Soljah moment with this contingent and show the world that yes, we are ok with trans people and want to support them, but there are limits, esp. when it comes to children. This could help remove this as a wedge issue and show that Dems don’t fall for all of the far Left nonsense.
This +100.
Unfortunately, I don't see the Dems shedding themselves of the extreme left’s all-or-nothing approach to trans issues and trying to get rid of genders. No more so than I see the Republicans shedding themselves of the extreme right's all-or-nothing approach to abortion.
Extremism on both sides is what is ruining our society.
So, dyed-in-the-wool democrat…what is the Dem position on trans rights? We know what the MAGA policy is on abortion.
Largely their position is that when there is a legal conflict between trans rights and women’s rights, trans rights is more important. For instance, the right to safety, privacy, and dignity that Democrats typically espouse for female prisoners is less important than the right of trans women to be placed in women’s prisons. Etc. In any event, their general position is that women’s rights are less important than trans rights.
huh??
What exactly are you confused about? It is quite clearly written.
Typical response from Dems..."huh" -- the continue to be obtuse.
The “huh” is avoidance. That PP knows that take is correct, but because that’s the current position of the Democrats on trans issues, she has to pretend confusion. They have nowhere else to go other than pretending confusion.
um no, it’s because it makes no sense to me. All this hysteria that is.
Signed the mom of 2 kids in suburban America.
Again if fox news didn’t exist would this even be discussed.
Anonymous
06/29/2025 22:04
Subject: What exactly is the democratic party going to stand for in 2026 and 2028?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Really great article by Andrew Sullivan in the NYT today about how the advances made for LGT rights are being set back by the extreme Left’s all or nothing approach to trans issues and trying to get rid of genders. It really lays out well how things have been taken off the rails and how it’s turning off so many Americans, this dyed in the wool Democrat included. The party needs to have a Sista Soljah moment with this contingent and show the world that yes, we are ok with trans people and want to support them, but there are limits, esp. when it comes to children. This could help remove this as a wedge issue and show that Dems don’t fall for all of the far Left nonsense.
This +100.
Unfortunately, I don't see the Dems shedding themselves of the extreme left’s all-or-nothing approach to trans issues and trying to get rid of genders. No more so than I see the Republicans shedding themselves of the extreme right's all-or-nothing approach to abortion.
Extremism on both sides is what is ruining our society.
So, dyed-in-the-wool democrat…what is the Dem position on trans rights? We know what the MAGA policy is on abortion.
Largely their position is that when there is a legal conflict between trans rights and women’s rights, trans rights is more important. For instance, the right to safety, privacy, and dignity that Democrats typically espouse for female prisoners is less important than the right of trans women to be placed in women’s prisons. Etc. In any event, their general position is that women’s rights are less important than trans rights.
huh??
If you do not understand what was said, you're part of the problem.
+1
But I think Democrats will drive the party to the ground on this issue because admitting they are wrong is a bridge too far.
Anonymous
06/29/2025 21:55
Subject: What exactly is the democratic party going to stand for in 2026 and 2028?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Really great article by Andrew Sullivan in the NYT today about how the advances made for LGT rights are being set back by the extreme Left’s all or nothing approach to trans issues and trying to get rid of genders. It really lays out well how things have been taken off the rails and how it’s turning off so many Americans, this dyed in the wool Democrat included. The party needs to have a Sista Soljah moment with this contingent and show the world that yes, we are ok with trans people and want to support them, but there are limits, esp. when it comes to children. This could help remove this as a wedge issue and show that Dems don’t fall for all of the far Left nonsense.
This +100.
Unfortunately, I don't see the Dems shedding themselves of the extreme left’s all-or-nothing approach to trans issues and trying to get rid of genders. No more so than I see the Republicans shedding themselves of the extreme right's all-or-nothing approach to abortion.
Extremism on both sides is what is ruining our society.
So, dyed-in-the-wool democrat…what is the Dem position on trans rights? We know what the MAGA policy is on abortion.
Largely their position is that when there is a legal conflict between trans rights and women’s rights, trans rights is more important. For instance, the right to safety, privacy, and dignity that Democrats typically espouse for female prisoners is less important than the right of trans women to be placed in women’s prisons. Etc. In any event, their general position is that women’s rights are less important than trans rights.
huh??
If you do not understand what was said, you're part of the problem.