Anonymous wrote:Presumably what was gained by Trump is the ability to send a larger number of migrants using military aircraft with either greater overall capacity or greater ability to move certain types of detainees. I guess we'll learn more with time.

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Anonymous wrote:Is there any actual evidence of 'mistreatment'? Or is this complaining because they didn't get white glove treatment and first class seats back home?

You can't dump millions of your citizens into another country and then refuse to take them back when the other country sends them back home.

Maybe millions of Americans should go fly over to Japan, illegally stay over there, then the US should refuse to take back our citizens when Japan sends them back? Absolutely unreal entitlement BS from Latin American countries.

How would you feel if the hundeds of people who overstayed visas in Great Britain (and I guarantee you there are in fact hundreds of people at this moment in that category) were dumped off in the US via a British military flight after being denied the chance to use the toilet for 24 hours. What if it was your daughter. Of course they are offended. Were are physically treating their citizens as if they are cattle, and then we are going to their country thinking we can get away with it and still have normal relationships with them? Pretend they are people equal to you and then think about it again.

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Anonymous wrote:Colombia's issue is that these flights are being done inhumanely and they don't know who's on these planes.

Brazil is "outraged" with how their deportation flights were handled. Remember, these aren't deadly criminals.

Edgar Da Silva Moura, a 31-year-old computer technician, was on the flight, after seven months in detention in the United States.

“On the plane they didn’t give us water, we were tied hands and feet, they wouldn’t even let us go to the bathroom,” he told AFP.

“It was very hot, some people fainted.”

Luis Antonio Rodrigues Santos, a 21-year-old freelancer, recounted the “nightmare” of people with “respiratory problems” during “four hours without air conditioning” due to technical issues on the plane.

“Things have already changed (with Trump), immigrants are treated as criminals,” he said.

The flight was originally destined for the southeastern city of Belo Horizonte, but encountered a technical issue forcing it to land in Manaus.

A government source told AFP the deportation flight was not directly linked to any immigration orders issued by Trump upon taking office Monday, but rather stemmed from a 2017 bilateral agreement.

Brazil’s Minister of Human Rights, Macae Evaristo, told journalists that “children with autism ... who went through very serious experiences” were also on the flight.

Footage on Brazilian television showed some passengers descending from the civilian aircraft, with their hands handcuffed and their ankles shackled.

“Upon learning of the situation, President Lula ordered that a Brazilian Air Force (FAB) aircraft be mobilised to transport the Brazilians to their final destination, in order to ensure that they could complete their journey with dignity and safety,” the justice ministry said.

https://www.france24.com/en/americas/20250126-brazil-outraged-after-us-deportees-arrive-handcuffed-colombia-to-refuse-us-deportation-flights

Brazil has informed Rubio that should this happen again the flight crew will be arrested and detained for violating the civil rights of Brazilian citizens. Lula is seriously pissed.

And really he won't care about threats of tariffs. He'll just sell soy, oil, steel, coffee, sugar, etc. to China. He already proved he will stand up to US bullying when he opened the commodities markets to transactions based on yuan and not just dollars and reais. Pissed Biden off with that.

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Anonymous wrote:Trump won this round, Colombia blinked. Your coffee and cut flower prices are safe /s

Byebye illegal immigrants

https://www.axios.com/2025/01/27/trump-colombia-tariffs-paused

LATEST UPDATE:

Trump pausing Colombia tariffs after migrants deal, White House says

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“The Government of Colombia has agreed to all of President Trump’s terms, including the unrestricted acceptance of all illegal aliens from Colombia returned from the United States, including on U.S. military aircraft, without limitation or delay. Based on this agreement, the fully drafted IEEPA tariffs and sanctions will be held in reserve, and not signed, unless Colombia fails to honor this agreement.”

”The visa sanctions issued by the State Department, and enhanced inspections from Customs and Border Protection, will remain in effect until the first planeload of Colombian deportees is successfully returned.”

”Today’s events make clear to the world that America is respected again. President Trump will continue to fiercely protect our nation’s sovereignty, and he expects all other nations of the world to fully cooperate in accepting the deportation of their citizens illegally present in the United States.”

So flights to Colombia can continue just as they were happening during the Biden administration.

Not quite the same. Colombian president was upset because they are being treated like criminals and handcuffed with Trump. That was his protest. Other than that same as Biden except Trump is doing everything he can to make it a spectacular show.

Not quite the same. Colombia was turning planes back, not anymore. Colombia actually offering to send their own planes to take people back.

Colombia was turning planes back because Trump was making an inhumane and unnecessary show of being a d!ck. Now that Trump can send flights like a normal person everything is as it was.

+1. Just like someone at State is having to smooth things over with Brazil so trade wars aren’t happening in Trump’s first weeks in office. Trump and his team can bluster all they want. What was learned here today is that other countries will buck back.

Really? I think the opposite. Petro learned very quickly that having a public hissy fit was not good policy for Colombia. Impulsively using social media to make some nonsensical complaint and forbidding the US from returning illegal Colombian citizens was embarrassing for Colombia. If Latin Americans want to call Trump a bad gringo and use that tired trope, Trump will play along and force Latin American countries to follow through. If Colombia and Brazil want an immediate trade war, this administration will oblige. There is nothing wrong with the US using C-130s to repatriate illegal migrants. Trump has the high ground here. It's no surprise that Colombia changed its mind very quickly once the consequences became clear. Saner government officials presumably got Petro to walk away from the keyboard before his dumbass social media outbursts caused more problems.

Trump is the one who backed down and conceded.

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No, you are a liar, axios , CNN and AP News all very liberal state that Colombia backs down after trump threatens to hit them with tarrifs.

Usa is respected again.

They threatened back and he backed down.

Really? How did he back down?

He agreed to send the deportees back in humane conditions. That was whole issue. Colombia never refused to take them.

Colombia will allow U.S. deportees into the country after Trump threatened tariffs as immigration crackdowns are underway around the country. A high-tech safety hazard poses a threat to the L.A. wildfires cleanup. And the Chiefs hold off the Bills to set up a Super Bowl rematch against the Eagles.

Here’s what to know today.

Colombia agrees to Trump’s deportation terms after tariff standoff, White House says

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/colombia-deportation-planes-chiefs-eagles-superbowl-morning-rundown-rcna189369

They were always transported in humane conditions so this was just the colombia president trying to save face

You are misinformed. They were transported humanely in the previous Administration, not on the two planes that Colombia rejected. Colombia said you have to treat them humanely. Trump threatened tariffs. Colombia said retaliatory tariffs. Someone again tried to explain to Trump how tariffs work. Trump agreed to humane treatment so he could play golf. Colombia won. The policy is back as it was before Trump made it cruel for his sadistic pleasure.

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Anonymous wrote:The planes were turned back by Columbia.

Trump threatened 25% tariffs on all goods from Columbia going up to 50% next week.

Columbia suddenly accepted the two planes.

The planes were diverted to Honduras. Colombia was upset their citizens were in handcuffs and chains, just like Brazil.

Both Colombia and Brazil diverted the flights, unshackled their citizens and then flew them home for the last leg of the flight on civilian aircraft. Colombia flew them home from Honduras on a presidential airplane.

The argument was never over taking citizens back. It was about sending them like prisoners in inhumane conditions - which everyone should be worried about because we force our own military to fly on these planes with broken air conditioning and broken equipment every day. We don’t handcuff them, but it’s still crappy planes. Obviously, they are soldiers and can take it.

Colombia, Brazil, Mexico, Denmark, Greenland and Russia have all had a week of American propaganda making them look weak in calls or responses. If you read the news outside of the US, it’s a different story.

Well they were prisoners. If they don't want to come back like prisoners, don't stay in a country illegally in the first place.

Prisoners get water.

Not really.

Even in the UAE prisoners have to pay for food and water. Well, their families probably are paying.
If you do not have money in your account in prison you just starve to death or die of dehydration.

It is pretty common in most countries for prisoners.

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Anonymous wrote:Trump won this round, Colombia blinked. Your coffee and cut flower prices are safe /s

Byebye illegal immigrants

https://www.axios.com/2025/01/27/trump-colombia-tariffs-paused

LATEST UPDATE:

Trump pausing Colombia tariffs after migrants deal, White House says

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“The Government of Colombia has agreed to all of President Trump’s terms, including the unrestricted acceptance of all illegal aliens from Colombia returned from the United States, including on U.S. military aircraft, without limitation or delay. Based on this agreement, the fully drafted IEEPA tariffs and sanctions will be held in reserve, and not signed, unless Colombia fails to honor this agreement.”

”The visa sanctions issued by the State Department, and enhanced inspections from Customs and Border Protection, will remain in effect until the first planeload of Colombian deportees is successfully returned.”

”Today’s events make clear to the world that America is respected again. President Trump will continue to fiercely protect our nation’s sovereignty, and he expects all other nations of the world to fully cooperate in accepting the deportation of their citizens illegally present in the United States.”

So flights to Colombia can continue just as they were happening during the Biden administration.

Not quite the same. Colombian president was upset because they are being treated like criminals and handcuffed with Trump. That was his protest. Other than that same as Biden except Trump is doing everything he can to make it a spectacular show.

Not quite the same. Colombia was turning planes back, not anymore. Colombia actually offering to send their own planes to take people back.

Colombia was turning planes back because Trump was making an inhumane and unnecessary show of being a d!ck. Now that Trump can send flights like a normal person everything is as it was.

+1. Just like someone at State is having to smooth things over with Brazil so trade wars aren’t happening in Trump’s first weeks in office. Trump and his team can bluster all they want. What was learned here today is that other countries will buck back.

Really? I think the opposite. Petro learned very quickly that having a public hissy fit was not good policy for Colombia. Impulsively using social media to make some nonsensical complaint and forbidding the US from returning illegal Colombian citizens was embarrassing for Colombia. If Latin Americans want to call Trump a bad gringo and use that tired trope, Trump will play along and force Latin American countries to follow through. If Colombia and Brazil want an immediate trade war, this administration will oblige. There is nothing wrong with the US using C-130s to repatriate illegal migrants. Trump has the high ground here. It's no surprise that Colombia changed its mind very quickly once the consequences became clear. Saner government officials presumably got Petro to walk away from the keyboard before his dumbass social media outbursts caused more problems.

Trump is the one who backed down and conceded.

Yup

No, you are a liar, axios , CNN and AP News all very liberal state that Colombia backs down after trump threatens to hit them with tarrifs.

Usa is respected again.

They threatened back and he backed down.

Really? How did he back down?

He agreed to send the deportees back in humane conditions. That was whole issue. Colombia never refused to take them.

Colombia will allow U.S. deportees into the country after Trump threatened tariffs as immigration crackdowns are underway around the country. A high-tech safety hazard poses a threat to the L.A. wildfires cleanup. And the Chiefs hold off the Bills to set up a Super Bowl rematch against the Eagles.

Here’s what to know today.

Colombia agrees to Trump’s deportation terms after tariff standoff, White House says

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/colombia-deportation-planes-chiefs-eagles-superbowl-morning-rundown-rcna189369

They were always transported in humane conditions so this was just the colombia president trying to save face

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Anonymous wrote:Trump won this round, Colombia blinked. Your coffee and cut flower prices are safe /s

Byebye illegal immigrants

https://www.axios.com/2025/01/27/trump-colombia-tariffs-paused

LATEST UPDATE:

Trump pausing Colombia tariffs after migrants deal, White House says

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“The Government of Colombia has agreed to all of President Trump’s terms, including the unrestricted acceptance of all illegal aliens from Colombia returned from the United States, including on U.S. military aircraft, without limitation or delay. Based on this agreement, the fully drafted IEEPA tariffs and sanctions will be held in reserve, and not signed, unless Colombia fails to honor this agreement.”

”The visa sanctions issued by the State Department, and enhanced inspections from Customs and Border Protection, will remain in effect until the first planeload of Colombian deportees is successfully returned.”

”Today’s events make clear to the world that America is respected again. President Trump will continue to fiercely protect our nation’s sovereignty, and he expects all other nations of the world to fully cooperate in accepting the deportation of their citizens illegally present in the United States.”

So flights to Colombia can continue just as they were happening during the Biden administration.

Not quite the same. Colombian president was upset because they are being treated like criminals and handcuffed with Trump. That was his protest. Other than that same as Biden except Trump is doing everything he can to make it a spectacular show.

Not quite the same. Colombia was turning planes back, not anymore. Colombia actually offering to send their own planes to take people back.

Colombia was turning planes back because Trump was making an inhumane and unnecessary show of being a d!ck. Now that Trump can send flights like a normal person everything is as it was.

That is sickening he posted videos of them shackled on sm. Making a publicity stunt using human lives. His Christian supporters sure are quiet.

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Anonymous wrote:Trump won this round, Colombia blinked. Your coffee and cut flower prices are safe /s

Byebye illegal immigrants

https://www.axios.com/2025/01/27/trump-colombia-tariffs-paused

LATEST UPDATE:

Trump pausing Colombia tariffs after migrants deal, White House says

• ⁠


“The Government of Colombia has agreed to all of President Trump’s terms, including the unrestricted acceptance of all illegal aliens from Colombia returned from the United States, including on U.S. military aircraft, without limitation or delay. Based on this agreement, the fully drafted IEEPA tariffs and sanctions will be held in reserve, and not signed, unless Colombia fails to honor this agreement.”

”The visa sanctions issued by the State Department, and enhanced inspections from Customs and Border Protection, will remain in effect until the first planeload of Colombian deportees is successfully returned.”

”Today’s events make clear to the world that America is respected again. President Trump will continue to fiercely protect our nation’s sovereignty, and he expects all other nations of the world to fully cooperate in accepting the deportation of their citizens illegally present in the United States.”

So flights to Colombia can continue just as they were happening during the Biden administration.

Not quite the same. Colombian president was upset because they are being treated like criminals and handcuffed with Trump. That was his protest. Other than that same as Biden except Trump is doing everything he can to make it a spectacular show.

Not quite the same. Colombia was turning planes back, not anymore. Colombia actually offering to send their own planes to take people back.

Colombia was turning planes back because Trump was making an inhumane and unnecessary show of being a d!ck. Now that Trump can send flights like a normal person everything is as it was.

Anonymous wrote:So is Trump going to make an example of businesses that hire undocumented workers? Wouldn’t that be an effective deterrent? If not, how come?

Anonymous wrote:Well, the important part is that old skid marks barely had to interrupt his golf game to screw over the economy:

https://www.the-express.com/sport/golf/161698/donald-trump-colombia-crisis-golf-course

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Anonymous wrote:It’s sad how many people are ok with criminals coming here as long as they get cheap coffee and fruit. It’s really telling.

STFU already with that tired line that is all over social media. JFC, are you all reading the same set of talking points? At least get some original material. The only thing you forgot to mention is Laken Riley.

For the last time—no, Dems are not in favor of criminals coming here and we are happy to see them leave.

Explain the Dems sanctuary cities like I’m dumb then.

Anonymous wrote:Colombia: We're not taking shackled detainees returned on military flights. Transport them with dignity

Trump: Trade war!

Colombia: OK

Trump: Fine, no more shackled detainees returned on military flights

Colombia: Good. Was that so hard?

Trump: They gave in!