Anonymous
05/19/2024 13:54
Subject: More MOCO Upzoning - Starting in Silver Spring
A lower percentage of the population currently living on either side of the segment of the route in question are likely to be heavy users of BRT than that of the populations at either end (into Wheaton or Langley Park). With denser development now to be encouraged along the route, though, the mix of residents, and preferences, in those areas is likely to change.
Those current residents who are unlikely to make use of BRT and unlikely to want greater nearby density, compared to the relatively stable existing community development/densities, are out of luck with the proposed changes, however. The area had seen a good amount of gentrification, but I wouldn't be surprised if, with effects of the change, area resedents who might have sought to improve a home more often seek relocation, instead.
Those current residents who are unlikely to make use of BRT and unlikely to want greater nearby density, compared to the relatively stable existing community development/densities, are out of luck with the proposed changes, however. The area had seen a good amount of gentrification, but I wouldn't be surprised if, with effects of the change, area resedents who might have sought to improve a home more often seek relocation, instead.
Anonymous
05/19/2024 13:25
Subject: More MOCO Upzoning - Starting in Silver Spring
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Great news! Thanks for letting me know.
The University Boulevard Corridor (UBC) Plan will build on previous initiatives, such as the Countywide Transit Corridors Functional Master Plan, Thrive Montgomery 2050, and Vision Zero. The UBC Plan focuses on a three-mile stretch of University Boulevard (MD 193), with the aim to understand community needs in relation to traffic safety, regional connectivity, environmental sustainability, and economic development. The plan explores opportunities for new development, bikeways, and bus rapid transit (BRT), as well as the creation of a complete street with wider sidewalks, comfortable public transportation stops, and safe access. Community involvement is key to the success of the process, and Montgomery Planning is offering virtual and in-person opportunities for feedback. The University Boulevard Corridor Plan is part of a larger vision for compact growth, supported by an excellent transit system and a safe, appealing network for walking, biking, and rolling.
Some of that is ok, but the BRT is stupid and the residents should be looking to line up their lawyers ASAP.
Lots of immigrants along University. I think they are just trying to get through long working hours to survive. They're not going to be calling lawyers about BRT.
That’s why they’re doing this here first.
You mean, because there are a lot of people who use the bus and will benefit from more frequent buses that don't get stuck in car traffic?
You think just because they’re lower middle class immigrants that they cannot afford to buy a car? That’s racist and demonstrates that you have spent very little time around there. Every home has 4 cars parked out front.
Yes, and? It is also true that a lot of people currently use the buses that run on University Boulevard. It's a high-ridership route. I don't know how it can be racist to state the fact that a lot of people use the C buses and RideOn 8 and 9 - including people who can't afford a car, people who can't drive (kids, many old people, many disabled people), and even people who have a car and can drive but nonetheless find the bus more convenient for a particular trip. It's not like, if your household has a car, you have to use that car every time you go anywhere.
Anonymous
05/19/2024 12:48
Subject: More MOCO Upzoning - Starting in Silver Spring
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Great news! Thanks for letting me know.
The University Boulevard Corridor (UBC) Plan will build on previous initiatives, such as the Countywide Transit Corridors Functional Master Plan, Thrive Montgomery 2050, and Vision Zero. The UBC Plan focuses on a three-mile stretch of University Boulevard (MD 193), with the aim to understand community needs in relation to traffic safety, regional connectivity, environmental sustainability, and economic development. The plan explores opportunities for new development, bikeways, and bus rapid transit (BRT), as well as the creation of a complete street with wider sidewalks, comfortable public transportation stops, and safe access. Community involvement is key to the success of the process, and Montgomery Planning is offering virtual and in-person opportunities for feedback. The University Boulevard Corridor Plan is part of a larger vision for compact growth, supported by an excellent transit system and a safe, appealing network for walking, biking, and rolling.
Some of that is ok, but the BRT is stupid and the residents should be looking to line up their lawyers ASAP.
Lots of immigrants along University. I think they are just trying to get through long working hours to survive. They're not going to be calling lawyers about BRT.
That’s why they’re doing this here first.
You mean, because there are a lot of people who use the bus and will benefit from more frequent buses that don't get stuck in car traffic?
Hello, diverting questioner who casts doubt without providing anything substantive.
Anonymous
05/19/2024 12:37
Subject: More MOCO Upzoning - Starting in Silver Spring
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Great news! Thanks for letting me know.
The University Boulevard Corridor (UBC) Plan will build on previous initiatives, such as the Countywide Transit Corridors Functional Master Plan, Thrive Montgomery 2050, and Vision Zero. The UBC Plan focuses on a three-mile stretch of University Boulevard (MD 193), with the aim to understand community needs in relation to traffic safety, regional connectivity, environmental sustainability, and economic development. The plan explores opportunities for new development, bikeways, and bus rapid transit (BRT), as well as the creation of a complete street with wider sidewalks, comfortable public transportation stops, and safe access. Community involvement is key to the success of the process, and Montgomery Planning is offering virtual and in-person opportunities for feedback. The University Boulevard Corridor Plan is part of a larger vision for compact growth, supported by an excellent transit system and a safe, appealing network for walking, biking, and rolling.
Some of that is ok, but the BRT is stupid and the residents should be looking to line up their lawyers ASAP.
Lots of immigrants along University. I think they are just trying to get through long working hours to survive. They're not going to be calling lawyers about BRT.
That’s why they’re doing this here first.
You mean, because there are a lot of people who use the bus and will benefit from more frequent buses that don't get stuck in car traffic?
You think just because they’re lower middle class immigrants that they cannot afford to buy a car? That’s racist and demonstrates that you have spent very little time around there. Every home has 4 cars parked out front.
Anonymous
05/19/2024 12:35
Subject: More MOCO Upzoning - Starting in Silver Spring
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Great news! Thanks for letting me know.
The University Boulevard Corridor (UBC) Plan will build on previous initiatives, such as the Countywide Transit Corridors Functional Master Plan, Thrive Montgomery 2050, and Vision Zero. The UBC Plan focuses on a three-mile stretch of University Boulevard (MD 193), with the aim to understand community needs in relation to traffic safety, regional connectivity, environmental sustainability, and economic development. The plan explores opportunities for new development, bikeways, and bus rapid transit (BRT), as well as the creation of a complete street with wider sidewalks, comfortable public transportation stops, and safe access. Community involvement is key to the success of the process, and Montgomery Planning is offering virtual and in-person opportunities for feedback. The University Boulevard Corridor Plan is part of a larger vision for compact growth, supported by an excellent transit system and a safe, appealing network for walking, biking, and rolling.
Some of that is ok, but the BRT is stupid and the residents should be looking to line up their lawyers ASAP.
Lots of immigrants along University. I think they are just trying to get through long working hours to survive. They're not going to be calling lawyers about BRT.
That’s why they’re doing this here first.
You mean, because there are a lot of people who use the bus and will benefit from more frequent buses that don't get stuck in car traffic?
They'll like the bus line. It's the rest of the stuff they won't like.
Anonymous
05/19/2024 11:45
Subject: More MOCO Upzoning - Starting in Silver Spring
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Great news! Thanks for letting me know.
The University Boulevard Corridor (UBC) Plan will build on previous initiatives, such as the Countywide Transit Corridors Functional Master Plan, Thrive Montgomery 2050, and Vision Zero. The UBC Plan focuses on a three-mile stretch of University Boulevard (MD 193), with the aim to understand community needs in relation to traffic safety, regional connectivity, environmental sustainability, and economic development. The plan explores opportunities for new development, bikeways, and bus rapid transit (BRT), as well as the creation of a complete street with wider sidewalks, comfortable public transportation stops, and safe access. Community involvement is key to the success of the process, and Montgomery Planning is offering virtual and in-person opportunities for feedback. The University Boulevard Corridor Plan is part of a larger vision for compact growth, supported by an excellent transit system and a safe, appealing network for walking, biking, and rolling.
Some of that is ok, but the BRT is stupid and the residents should be looking to line up their lawyers ASAP.
Lots of immigrants along University. I think they are just trying to get through long working hours to survive. They're not going to be calling lawyers about BRT.
That’s why they’re doing this here first.
You mean, because there are a lot of people who use the bus and will benefit from more frequent buses that don't get stuck in car traffic?
Anonymous
05/19/2024 11:13
Subject: More MOCO Upzoning - Starting in Silver Spring
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Great news! Thanks for letting me know.
The University Boulevard Corridor (UBC) Plan will build on previous initiatives, such as the Countywide Transit Corridors Functional Master Plan, Thrive Montgomery 2050, and Vision Zero. The UBC Plan focuses on a three-mile stretch of University Boulevard (MD 193), with the aim to understand community needs in relation to traffic safety, regional connectivity, environmental sustainability, and economic development. The plan explores opportunities for new development, bikeways, and bus rapid transit (BRT), as well as the creation of a complete street with wider sidewalks, comfortable public transportation stops, and safe access. Community involvement is key to the success of the process, and Montgomery Planning is offering virtual and in-person opportunities for feedback. The University Boulevard Corridor Plan is part of a larger vision for compact growth, supported by an excellent transit system and a safe, appealing network for walking, biking, and rolling.
Some of that is ok, but the BRT is stupid and the residents should be looking to line up their lawyers ASAP.
Lots of immigrants along University. I think they are just trying to get through long working hours to survive. They're not going to be calling lawyers about BRT.
That’s why they’re doing this here first.
Ding, ding, ding! They'll do this, but when it gets to wealthier areas, they'll stop. They never start there.
People are far more tied to their home than to other assets, and not just financially -- social ties can be as or more important. With this relatively limited mobility, those who had put down roots of one kind or another in middle-income areas can be presented with unwanted change in ways that those in high-income areas better can avoid. Society is left with is an ever-increasing gap.
Anonymous
05/19/2024 10:49
Subject: More MOCO Upzoning - Starting in Silver Spring
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Great news! Thanks for letting me know.
The University Boulevard Corridor (UBC) Plan will build on previous initiatives, such as the Countywide Transit Corridors Functional Master Plan, Thrive Montgomery 2050, and Vision Zero. The UBC Plan focuses on a three-mile stretch of University Boulevard (MD 193), with the aim to understand community needs in relation to traffic safety, regional connectivity, environmental sustainability, and economic development. The plan explores opportunities for new development, bikeways, and bus rapid transit (BRT), as well as the creation of a complete street with wider sidewalks, comfortable public transportation stops, and safe access. Community involvement is key to the success of the process, and Montgomery Planning is offering virtual and in-person opportunities for feedback. The University Boulevard Corridor Plan is part of a larger vision for compact growth, supported by an excellent transit system and a safe, appealing network for walking, biking, and rolling.
Some of that is ok, but the BRT is stupid and the residents should be looking to line up their lawyers ASAP.
Lots of immigrants along University. I think they are just trying to get through long working hours to survive. They're not going to be calling lawyers about BRT.
That’s why they’re doing this here first.
Anonymous
05/19/2024 09:29
Subject: More MOCO Upzoning - Starting in Silver Spring
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Great news! Thanks for letting me know.
The University Boulevard Corridor (UBC) Plan will build on previous initiatives, such as the Countywide Transit Corridors Functional Master Plan, Thrive Montgomery 2050, and Vision Zero. The UBC Plan focuses on a three-mile stretch of University Boulevard (MD 193), with the aim to understand community needs in relation to traffic safety, regional connectivity, environmental sustainability, and economic development. The plan explores opportunities for new development, bikeways, and bus rapid transit (BRT), as well as the creation of a complete street with wider sidewalks, comfortable public transportation stops, and safe access. Community involvement is key to the success of the process, and Montgomery Planning is offering virtual and in-person opportunities for feedback. The University Boulevard Corridor Plan is part of a larger vision for compact growth, supported by an excellent transit system and a safe, appealing network for walking, biking, and rolling.
Some of that is ok, but the BRT is stupid and the residents should be looking to line up their lawyers ASAP.
Lots of immigrants along University. I think they are just trying to get through long working hours to survive. They're not going to be calling lawyers about BRT.
Anonymous
05/17/2024 20:50
Subject: More MOCO Upzoning - Starting in Silver Spring
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:There was a meeting on the Attainable Housing Strategies Initiative.
https://montgomeryplanningboard.org/agenda-item/may-16-2024/
https://montgomeryplanning.org/planning/housing/attainable-housing-strategies-initiative/
They are steering this toward the Zoning Text Amendment part of the multi-pronged strategy, where no traditional zoning change process would be needed for development of affected properties because the zoning definition, itself, would change in blanket form to allow the increased density development. There's a survey, FWIW.
https://www.surveyhero.com/c/MoCoPlanningSITE
Where is the attainable business strategy or is attaining businesses not important?
And where is the attainable UMC dream strategy?
Clarksburg
Anonymous
05/17/2024 20:44
Subject: More MOCO Upzoning - Starting in Silver Spring
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:There was a meeting on the Attainable Housing Strategies Initiative.
https://montgomeryplanningboard.org/agenda-item/may-16-2024/
https://montgomeryplanning.org/planning/housing/attainable-housing-strategies-initiative/
They are steering this toward the Zoning Text Amendment part of the multi-pronged strategy, where no traditional zoning change process would be needed for development of affected properties because the zoning definition, itself, would change in blanket form to allow the increased density development. There's a survey, FWIW.
https://www.surveyhero.com/c/MoCoPlanningSITE
Where is the attainable business strategy or is attaining businesses not important?
And where is the attainable UMC dream strategy?
Anonymous
05/17/2024 17:19
Subject: More MOCO Upzoning - Starting in Silver Spring
Anonymous wrote:There was a meeting on the Attainable Housing Strategies Initiative.
https://montgomeryplanningboard.org/agenda-item/may-16-2024/
https://montgomeryplanning.org/planning/housing/attainable-housing-strategies-initiative/
They are steering this toward the Zoning Text Amendment part of the multi-pronged strategy, where no traditional zoning change process would be needed for development of affected properties because the zoning definition, itself, would change in blanket form to allow the increased density development. There's a survey, FWIW.
https://www.surveyhero.com/c/MoCoPlanningSITE
Where is the attainable business strategy or is attaining businesses not important?
Anonymous
05/17/2024 16:43
Subject: More MOCO Upzoning - Starting in Silver Spring
There was a meeting on the Attainable Housing Strategies Initiative.
https://montgomeryplanningboard.org/agenda-item/may-16-2024/
https://montgomeryplanning.org/planning/housing/attainable-housing-strategies-initiative/
They are steering this toward the Zoning Text Amendment part of the multi-pronged strategy, where no traditional zoning change process would be needed for development of affected properties because the zoning definition, itself, would change in blanket form to allow the increased density development. There's a survey, FWIW.
https://www.surveyhero.com/c/MoCoPlanningSITE
https://montgomeryplanningboard.org/agenda-item/may-16-2024/
https://montgomeryplanning.org/planning/housing/attainable-housing-strategies-initiative/
They are steering this toward the Zoning Text Amendment part of the multi-pronged strategy, where no traditional zoning change process would be needed for development of affected properties because the zoning definition, itself, would change in blanket form to allow the increased density development. There's a survey, FWIW.
https://www.surveyhero.com/c/MoCoPlanningSITE
Anonymous
05/17/2024 13:59
Subject: More MOCO Upzoning - Starting in Silver Spring
The only way to go about getting it stopped is is via a lawsuit…seems to be working so far in Arlington, though they are doing their best to try to intimidate plaintiffs.
https://www.wusa9.com/article/news/local/virginia/arlington-county-criticized-subpoena-to-seek-information-in-housing-development-lawsuit/65-d78b9bac-79fa-4b8f-8ca2-7c5b0dd4faa8
https://www.wusa9.com/article/news/local/virginia/arlington-county-criticized-subpoena-to-seek-information-in-housing-development-lawsuit/65-d78b9bac-79fa-4b8f-8ca2-7c5b0dd4faa8
Anonymous
05/17/2024 13:51
Subject: More MOCO Upzoning - Starting in Silver Spring
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I will say they were polling us in the virtual meeting, but giving only a few minutes to respond, and not answering questions. Felt rushed and was not a real poll if you see results. It was a “wham bam” poll
They are not interested in real engagement and outreach. The way they advertise these events they intentionally try to stack the audience with activists they know who support their agenda. If the polling at the meeting doesn’t provide the results they want, they won’t report them. Etc, etc.
You have to understand that Planning, thanks to Casey Anderson, has been taken over by activists- many of whom don’t even live in the county (the planning area manager where I am lives in VA). They are not interested in what’s best for the county. They are only interested is furthering their activist agenda and using that as a springboard for self promotion.
This is what happens when you have an unaccountable government agency. The individual interests of mid-level bureaucrats becomes prioritized over the public good.
Again, it’s all performative and there will be no accountability until 2026, which is very convenient timing for the council.
There is no implied or express way provided to say, no, we don’t want this. It’s simply asking people about the window dressing on something that’s been pre-decided.