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Anonymous wrote:I just saw it with my sister and we both thought it was just okay. The best parts were the set and costumes. Everyone was cast really well and Ryan Gosling was fantastic and funny. But overall? It was so heavy handed in the writing. It took a very complicated topic and made it so simplistic. I don’t get all the love for the writing team who wrote the script. It really wasn’t that good.

Yes, this. I am also surprised when people discuss the message that resonated. We've been hearing the message over and over for years, e.g., here https://vimeo.com/393253445

What's new and eye-opening did the movie do with the message?

Well, since the issue is still very real, I think it's resonating b/c it's talking to a new generation and the video you posted didn't change anything. I think people are getting riled up b/c it's a movie that really was *for* women and that doesn't happen a lot. It makes people uncomfortable.

And the movie will change everything? You are treating it as a feminist manifesto of sorts, which it is not.

And about a movie for women? Are you posting from the 1950s?

The fact that the movie is a huge financial success will actually make a real difference in terms of what material gets greenlighted and backed, and who gets to write and direct. That’s the point Gerwig made when Little Women was a big success but was snubbed at the Oscars. And it seems like she was right

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Anonymous wrote:The movie was ok. The very last line was the best part IMO

Was the very last line "The End"?

“I’m here to see my gynecologist.”

I thought that was dumb as hell. I was disappointed. So obvious.

Ok. Glad you got that out there. Feel better?

Uh oh. The thread police is here ready to pounce when someone says anything negative about the movie. Why can’t you just let the natural discussion be?

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Anonymous wrote:I just saw it with my sister and we both thought it was just okay. The best parts were the set and costumes. Everyone was cast really well and Ryan Gosling was fantastic and funny. But overall? It was so heavy handed in the writing. It took a very complicated topic and made it so simplistic. I don’t get all the love for the writing team who wrote the script. It really wasn’t that good.

Yes, this. I am also surprised when people discuss the message that resonated. We've been hearing the message over and over for years, e.g., here https://vimeo.com/393253445

What's new and eye-opening did the movie do with the message?

Well, since the issue is still very real, I think it's resonating b/c it's talking to a new generation and the video you posted didn't change anything. I think people are getting riled up b/c it's a movie that really was *for* women and that doesn't happen a lot. It makes people uncomfortable.

And the movie will change everything? You are treating it as a feminist manifesto of sorts, which it is not.

And about a movie for women? Are you posting from the 1950s?

The fact that the movie is a huge financial success will actually make a real difference in terms of what material gets greenlighted and backed, and who gets to write and direct. That’s the point Gerwig made when Little Women was a big success but was snubbed at the Oscars. And it seems like she was right

Maybe, although I am not so sure. The success is very much due to marketing. With a budget of $140 mil, it would be surprising if the move flopped.

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Anonymous wrote:The movie was ok. The very last line was the best part IMO

Was the very last line "The End"?

“I’m here to see my gynecologist.”

I thought that was dumb as hell. I was disappointed. So obvious.

Ok. Glad you got that out there. Feel better?

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Anonymous wrote:I just saw it with my sister and we both thought it was just okay. The best parts were the set and costumes. Everyone was cast really well and Ryan Gosling was fantastic and funny. But overall? It was so heavy handed in the writing. It took a very complicated topic and made it so simplistic. I don’t get all the love for the writing team who wrote the script. It really wasn’t that good.

Yes, this. I am also surprised when people discuss the message that resonated. We've been hearing the message over and over for years, e.g., here https://vimeo.com/393253445

What's new and eye-opening did the movie do with the message?

Well, since the issue is still very real, I think it's resonating b/c it's talking to a new generation and the video you posted didn't change anything. I think people are getting riled up b/c it's a movie that really was *for* women and that doesn't happen a lot. It makes people uncomfortable.

And the movie will change everything? You are treating it as a feminist manifesto of sorts, which it is not.

And about a movie for women? Are you posting from the 1950s?

The fact that the movie is a huge financial success will actually make a real difference in terms of what material gets greenlighted and backed, and who gets to write and direct. That’s the point Gerwig made when Little Women was a big success but was snubbed at the Oscars. And it seems like she was right

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Anonymous wrote:I just saw it with my sister and we both thought it was just okay. The best parts were the set and costumes. Everyone was cast really well and Ryan Gosling was fantastic and funny. But overall? It was so heavy handed in the writing. It took a very complicated topic and made it so simplistic. I don’t get all the love for the writing team who wrote the script. It really wasn’t that good.

Yes, this. I am also surprised when people discuss the message that resonated. We've been hearing the message over and over for years, e.g., here https://vimeo.com/393253445

What's new and eye-opening did the movie do with the message?

Well, since the issue is still very real, I think it's resonating b/c it's talking to a new generation and the video you posted didn't change anything. I think people are getting riled up b/c it's a movie that really was *for* women and that doesn't happen a lot. It makes people uncomfortable.

And the movie will change everything? You are treating it as a feminist manifesto of sorts, which it is not.

And about a movie for women? Are you posting from the 1950s?

The fact that the movie is a huge financial success will actually make a real difference in terms of what material gets greenlighted and backed, and who gets to write and direct. That’s the point Gerwig made when Little Women was a big success but was snubbed at the Oscars. And it seems like she was right

Maybe, although I am not so sure. The success is very much due to marketing. With a budget of $140 mil, it would be surprising if the move flopped.

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Anonymous wrote:I just saw it with my sister and we both thought it was just okay. The best parts were the set and costumes. Everyone was cast really well and Ryan Gosling was fantastic and funny. But overall? It was so heavy handed in the writing. It took a very complicated topic and made it so simplistic. I don’t get all the love for the writing team who wrote the script. It really wasn’t that good.

Yes, this. I am also surprised when people discuss the message that resonated. We've been hearing the message over and over for years, e.g., here https://vimeo.com/393253445

What's new and eye-opening did the movie do with the message?

Well, since the issue is still very real, I think it's resonating b/c it's talking to a new generation and the video you posted didn't change anything. I think people are getting riled up b/c it's a movie that really was *for* women and that doesn't happen a lot. It makes people uncomfortable.

And the movie will change everything? You are treating it as a feminist manifesto of sorts, which it is not.

And about a movie for women? Are you posting from the 1950s?

The fact that the movie is a huge financial success will actually make a real difference in terms of what material gets greenlighted and backed, and who gets to write and direct. That’s the point Gerwig made when Little Women was a big success but was snubbed at the Oscars. And it seems like she was right

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Anonymous wrote:Apparently my friends cried, but I'm the heartless BEACH who thought the messaging was confusing. Let's replace men with women and marginalize men that will be better! I liked the outfits, history and the fun parts.

That wasn't the message. I don't want to give away a spoiler, but think about the talk Barbie had with Ken after the vote. It wasn't to marginalize men. And also, it's OK for a fantasy world where women hold more power. You know, the opposite of 2 CEOs in the entire history of the company.

DP. If women have more power in the world, such as more CEOs, they will have to give up time raising their children. They will need a house husband or nanny or both - and few American women want that. This isn't the patriarchy, it's the choices of women.

Why the assumption that all women want to raise children? What? uhhhhhhhh.........

DP and I feel like the movie oversimplified feminism. Isn’t the point to get to choose? Not just be a powerful ceo. I don’t want to be an executive at a large company. I want to work and then enjoy my free time. And I have the choice to do that. I just didn’t get the nuance in the movie’s message.

Did you not see the pitch for Ordinary Barbie?

Yes! Ordinary Barbie!! Exactly!

All she wants is a flattering top and to feel OK each day!

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Anonymous wrote:Apparently my friends cried, but I'm the heartless BEACH who thought the messaging was confusing. Let's replace men with women and marginalize men that will be better! I liked the outfits, history and the fun parts.

That wasn't the message. I don't want to give away a spoiler, but think about the talk Barbie had with Ken after the vote. It wasn't to marginalize men. And also, it's OK for a fantasy world where women hold more power. You know, the opposite of 2 CEOs in the entire history of the company.

DP. If women have more power in the world, such as more CEOs, they will have to give up time raising their children. They will need a house husband or nanny or both - and few American women want that. This isn't the patriarchy, it's the choices of women.

Why the assumption that all women want to raise children? What? uhhhhhhhh.........

DP and I feel like the movie oversimplified feminism. Isn’t the point to get to choose? Not just be a powerful ceo. I don’t want to be an executive at a large company. I want to work and then enjoy my free time. And I have the choice to do that. I just didn’t get the nuance in the movie’s message.

Did you not see the pitch for Ordinary Barbie?

Yes! Ordinary Barbie!! Exactly!

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Anonymous wrote:Apparently my friends cried, but I'm the heartless BEACH who thought the messaging was confusing. Let's replace men with women and marginalize men that will be better! I liked the outfits, history and the fun parts.

That wasn't the message. I don't want to give away a spoiler, but think about the talk Barbie had with Ken after the vote. It wasn't to marginalize men. And also, it's OK for a fantasy world where women hold more power. You know, the opposite of 2 CEOs in the entire history of the company.

DP. If women have more power in the world, such as more CEOs, they will have to give up time raising their children. They will need a house husband or nanny or both - and few American women want that. This isn't the patriarchy, it's the choices of women.

Thinking most of the move went over this poster’s head

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Anonymous wrote:I just saw it with my sister and we both thought it was just okay. The best parts were the set and costumes. Everyone was cast really well and Ryan Gosling was fantastic and funny. But overall? It was so heavy handed in the writing. It took a very complicated topic and made it so simplistic. I don’t get all the love for the writing team who wrote the script. It really wasn’t that good.

Yes, this. I am also surprised when people discuss the message that resonated. We've been hearing the message over and over for years, e.g., here https://vimeo.com/393253445

What's new and eye-opening did the movie do with the message?

Well, since the issue is still very real, I think it's resonating b/c it's talking to a new generation and the video you posted didn't change anything. I think people are getting riled up b/c it's a movie that really was *for* women and that doesn't happen a lot. It makes people uncomfortable.

And the movie will change everything? You are treating it as a feminist manifesto of sorts, which it is not.

And about a movie for women? Are you posting from the 1950s?

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Apparently my friends cried, but I'm the heartless BEACH who thought the messaging was confusing. Let's replace men with women and marginalize men that will be better! I liked the outfits, history and the fun parts.

That wasn't the message. I don't want to give away a spoiler, but think about the talk Barbie had with Ken after the vote. It wasn't to marginalize men. And also, it's OK for a fantasy world where women hold more power. You know, the opposite of 2 CEOs in the entire history of the company.

DP. If women have more power in the world, such as more CEOs, they will have to give up time raising their children. They will need a house husband or nanny or both - and few American women want that. This isn't the patriarchy, it's the choices of women.

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Anonymous wrote:Apparently my friends cried, but I'm the heartless BEACH who thought the messaging was confusing. Let's replace men with women and marginalize men that will be better! I liked the outfits, history and the fun parts.

That wasn't the message. I don't want to give away a spoiler, but think about the talk Barbie had with Ken after the vote. It wasn't to marginalize men. And also, it's OK for a fantasy world where women hold more power. You know, the opposite of 2 CEOs in the entire history of the company.

DP. If women have more power in the world, such as more CEOs, they will have to give up time raising their children. They will need a house husband or nanny or both - and few American women want that. This isn't the patriarchy, it's the choices of women.

Why the assumption that all women want to raise children? What? uhhhhhhhh.........

DP and I feel like the movie oversimplified feminism. Isn’t the point to get to choose? Not just be a powerful ceo. I don’t want to be an executive at a large company. I want to work and then enjoy my free time. And I have the choice to do that. I just didn’t get the nuance in the movie’s message.

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Anonymous wrote:The movie was ok. The very last line was the best part IMO

Was the very last line "The End"?

“I’m here to see my gynecologist.”

I thought that was dumb as hell. I was disappointed. So obvious.

I’ll never see this movie. Care to explain the context?

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Anonymous wrote:The movie was ok. The very last line was the best part IMO

Was the very last line "The End"?

“I’m here to see my gynecologist.”

I thought that was dumb as hell. I was disappointed. So obvious.