Anonymous
Post 07/09/2022 22:39     Subject: Highland park IL shooting

Anyone ever think that Russia is planting mass shooters and opioid dealing doctors all over our country to divide us? Then they come and troll on blogs like this. Insidious. Don’t be fooled.
Anonymous
Post 07/09/2022 15:37     Subject: Re:Highland park IL shooting

Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:Where’s the next mass shooting going to be? How many innocent people will be killed and injured?


The tragedy is that these mass murders could be stopped. We, as a country, choose not to do anything about them. You or your loved ones could be next.


The Highland Park shooter was allowed to legally buy guns even though there had been prior domestic disturbance calls, suicide attempts, police taking knives from the home. Along with school disciplinary records involving violence.

The Virginia Tech shooter was allowed to legally buy guns even though his mental health records clearly indicated serious problems.

We need to change the laws such that any such item like that must be reported to a national database as a flag to prevent them from being able to legally buy guns. And, any reported incident involving violence or mental health crisis should include checking for and removing any weapons from the individual's possession.

That, and we need much stronger controls and trackability to shut down the underground black market for guns not legally purchased.



The legal, responsible gun owners and "good guys with guns" should have absolutely no problem with any of this. So why can't we get anything done?


Because it always ends up being subject to abuse - such as the guy in NJ who got red-flagged because he was running against an incumbent mayor in a local election.

There’s people on this board who’d like to be able to petition red flags against neighbors simply because they voted for Trump.

That’s where all these good-intentions laws always go - they start out as noble and obvious common sense ideas - but they always devolve into petty torments and abuses for people with grudges against others.



I'm sorry, but America is a MESS right now and I see ZERO chance that Red Flag laws will ever be aggressively implemented enough for them to SAVE LIVES NOW

We need a Blunt tool for Now: Just Ban the Assault Weapons, start a buy back program for 90 days, then implement felony charges- it worked like a charm in a macho country like Australia

At the same time, implement Red Flag Laws - but on Hand Guns

Came here to say just that. Red flag laws only work red flag laws assumes potential perpetrators are surrounded with “good people”. Most are just as messed up. JUST BAN ASSULT RIFLES.
Anonymous
Post 07/09/2022 15:37     Subject: Highland park IL shooting

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Idiot father covered for him. And is also responsible.


Bobby Crimo's mother, Denise Pesina, also seems unbalanced and , post her son's act of mass murder, shows a great deal of Narcissism and inability to show remorse: strutting around mocking the helicopters over her house, stripping down naked to try to make the SWAT team feel embarassed- this just hours after being told she raised a mass murderer

No contrition, no sense of shame or remorse - just a total sociopathic profile

Another reason why we need a Nationwide Assault weapons ban- these two total fail as parents can't pay their bills or even seem to function as role models - Yet- they can do one thing: assist in assault weapons purchase !!

https://www.arlingtoncardinal.com/2022/07/denise-pesina-confronts-swat-personnel-and-police-exposes-breast-in-front-of-her-home-after-highland-park-parade-shooting/

I still want to know: with " Bobby Crimo JR " unemployed and Dad filing for Bankruptcy against over 1 Million in Debt and not paying either mortgage, WHERE did " Bobby Crimo Jr " get all that money to buy 5 guns ?

Follow the money and therein lies the culpability


This raises a good point. Mentally unstable shooters are more likely than not to have been raised by mentally unstable parents so we can't exactly count on families to raise red flags and/or do the right thing.

We'll only see more of this with the abortion ban - more unwanted babies born into unhealthy home environments.
Anonymous
Post 07/09/2022 15:34     Subject: Re:Highland park IL shooting

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Where’s the next mass shooting going to be? How many innocent people will be killed and injured?


The tragedy is that these mass murders could be stopped. We, as a country, choose not to do anything about them. You or your loved ones could be next.


The Highland Park shooter was allowed to legally buy guns even though there had been prior domestic disturbance calls, suicide attempts, police taking knives from the home. Along with school disciplinary records involving violence.

The Virginia Tech shooter was allowed to legally buy guns even though his mental health records clearly indicated serious problems.

We need to change the laws such that any such item like that must be reported to a national database as a flag to prevent them from being able to legally buy guns. And, any reported incident involving violence or mental health crisis should include checking for and removing any weapons from the individual's possession.

That, and we need much stronger controls and trackability to shut down the underground black market for guns not legally purchased.



The legal, responsible gun owners and "good guys with guns" should have absolutely no problem with any of this. So why can't we get anything done?


Because it always ends up being subject to abuse - such as the guy in NJ who got red-flagged because he was running against an incumbent mayor in a local election.

There’s people on this board who’d like to be able to petition red flags against neighbors simply because they voted for Trump.

That’s where all these good-intentions laws always go - they start out as noble and obvious common sense ideas - but they always devolve into petty torments and abuses for people with grudges against others.



I'm sorry, but America is a MESS right now and I see ZERO chance that Red Flag laws will ever be aggressively implemented enough for them to SAVE LIVES NOW

We need a Blunt tool for Now: Just Ban the Assault Weapons, start a buy back program for 90 days, then implement felony charges- it worked like a charm in a macho country like Australia

At the same time, implement Red Flag Laws - but on Hand Guns


+1. But include extended magazines as well in the ban.
Anonymous
Post 07/09/2022 15:31     Subject: Re:Highland park IL shooting

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Where’s the next mass shooting going to be? How many innocent people will be killed and injured?


The tragedy is that these mass murders could be stopped. We, as a country, choose not to do anything about them. You or your loved ones could be next.


The Highland Park shooter was allowed to legally buy guns even though there had been prior domestic disturbance calls, suicide attempts, police taking knives from the home. Along with school disciplinary records involving violence.

The Virginia Tech shooter was allowed to legally buy guns even though his mental health records clearly indicated serious problems.

We need to change the laws such that any such item like that must be reported to a national database as a flag to prevent them from being able to legally buy guns. And, any reported incident involving violence or mental health crisis should include checking for and removing any weapons from the individual's possession.

That, and we need much stronger controls and trackability to shut down the underground black market for guns not legally purchased.



The legal, responsible gun owners and "good guys with guns" should have absolutely no problem with any of this. So why can't we get anything done?


Because it always ends up being subject to abuse - such as the guy in NJ who got red-flagged because he was running against an incumbent mayor in a local election.

There’s people on this board who’d like to be able to petition red flags against neighbors simply because they voted for Trump.

That’s where all these good-intentions laws always go - they start out as noble and obvious common sense ideas - but they always devolve into petty torments and abuses for people with grudges against others.



I'm sorry, but America is a MESS right now and I see ZERO chance that Red Flag laws will ever be aggressively implemented enough for them to SAVE LIVES NOW

We need a Blunt tool for Now: Just Ban the Assault Weapons, start a buy back program for 90 days, then implement felony charges- it worked like a charm in a macho country like Australia

At the same time, implement Red Flag Laws - but on Hand Guns
Anonymous
Post 07/09/2022 14:51     Subject: Re:Highland park IL shooting

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Where’s the next mass shooting going to be? How many innocent people will be killed and injured?


The tragedy is that these mass murders could be stopped. We, as a country, choose not to do anything about them. You or your loved ones could be next.


The Highland Park shooter was allowed to legally buy guns even though there had been prior domestic disturbance calls, suicide attempts, police taking knives from the home. Along with school disciplinary records involving violence.

The Virginia Tech shooter was allowed to legally buy guns even though his mental health records clearly indicated serious problems.

We need to change the laws such that any such item like that must be reported to a national database as a flag to prevent them from being able to legally buy guns. And, any reported incident involving violence or mental health crisis should include checking for and removing any weapons from the individual's possession.

That, and we need much stronger controls and trackability to shut down the underground black market for guns not legally purchased.


The legal, responsible gun owners and "good guys with guns" should have absolutely no problem with any of this. So why can't we get anything done?


Because it always ends up being subject to abuse - such as the guy in NJ who got red-flagged because he was running against an incumbent mayor in a local election.

There’s people on this board who’d like to be able to petition red flags against neighbors simply because they voted for Trump.

That’s where all these good-intentions laws always go - they start out as noble and obvious common sense ideas - but they always devolve into petty torments and abuses for people with grudges against others.

Anonymous
Post 07/09/2022 13:47     Subject: Re:Highland park IL shooting

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Where’s the next mass shooting going to be? How many innocent people will be killed and injured?


The tragedy is that these mass murders could be stopped. We, as a country, choose not to do anything about them. You or your loved ones could be next.


The Highland Park shooter was allowed to legally buy guns even though there had been prior domestic disturbance calls, suicide attempts, police taking knives from the home. Along with school disciplinary records involving violence.

The Virginia Tech shooter was allowed to legally buy guns even though his mental health records clearly indicated serious problems.

We need to change the laws such that any such item like that must be reported to a national database as a flag to prevent them from being able to legally buy guns. And, any reported incident involving violence or mental health crisis should include checking for and removing any weapons from the individual's possession.

That, and we need much stronger controls and trackability to shut down the underground black market for guns not legally purchased.


The legal, responsible gun owners and "good guys with guns" should have absolutely no problem with any of this. So why can't we get anything done?
Anonymous
Post 07/09/2022 13:47     Subject: Highland park IL shooting

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Idiot father covered for him. And is also responsible.


Bobby Crimo's mother, Denise Pesina, also seems unbalanced and , post her son's act of mass murder, shows a great deal of Narcissism and inability to show remorse: strutting around mocking the helicopters over her house, stripping down naked to try to make the SWAT team feel embarassed- this just hours after being told she raised a mass murderer

No contrition, no sense of shame or remorse - just a total sociopathic profile

Another reason why we need a Nationwide Assault weapons ban- these two total fail as parents can't pay their bills or even seem to function as role models - Yet- they can do one thing: assist in assault weapons purchase !!

https://www.arlingtoncardinal.com/2022/07/denise-pesina-confronts-swat-personnel-and-police-exposes-breast-in-front-of-her-home-after-highland-park-parade-shooting/

I still want to know: with " Bobby Crimo JR " unemployed and Dad filing for Bankruptcy against over 1 Million in Debt and not paying either mortgage, WHERE did " Bobby Crimo Jr " get all that money to buy 5 guns ?

Follow the money and therein lies the culpability


She got arrested for negligence for leaving young Bobby Crimo in a locked closed car on a hot day when he was little.

Excellent MAGA parents.


She should have been shot for antagonizing the SWAT team. She’s lucky she’s white and in a rich neighborhood.
Anonymous
Post 07/09/2022 13:41     Subject: Highland park IL shooting

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Idiot father covered for him. And is also responsible.


Bobby Crimo's mother, Denise Pesina, also seems unbalanced and , post her son's act of mass murder, shows a great deal of Narcissism and inability to show remorse: strutting around mocking the helicopters over her house, stripping down naked to try to make the SWAT team feel embarassed- this just hours after being told she raised a mass murderer

No contrition, no sense of shame or remorse - just a total sociopathic profile

Another reason why we need a Nationwide Assault weapons ban- these two total fail as parents can't pay their bills or even seem to function as role models - Yet- they can do one thing: assist in assault weapons purchase !!

https://www.arlingtoncardinal.com/2022/07/denise-pesina-confronts-swat-personnel-and-police-exposes-breast-in-front-of-her-home-after-highland-park-parade-shooting/

I still want to know: with " Bobby Crimo JR " unemployed and Dad filing for Bankruptcy against over 1 Million in Debt and not paying either mortgage, WHERE did " Bobby Crimo Jr " get all that money to buy 5 guns ?

Follow the money and therein lies the culpability


She got arrested for negligence for leaving young Bobby Crimo in a locked closed car on a hot day when he was little.

Excellent MAGA parents.
Anonymous
Post 07/09/2022 13:33     Subject: Highland park IL shooting

Anonymous wrote:Pure sh*t bags the lot of them.
Repeal the second amendment if we can’t keep weapons of war out of the hands of such psychopaths.


I agree.
Anonymous
Post 07/09/2022 13:22     Subject: Highland park IL shooting

Pure sh*t bags the lot of them.
Repeal the second amendment if we can’t keep weapons of war out of the hands of such psychopaths.
Anonymous
Post 07/09/2022 13:01     Subject: Highland park IL shooting

Anonymous wrote:Idiot father covered for him. And is also responsible.


Bobby Crimo's mother, Denise Pesina, also seems unbalanced and , post her son's act of mass murder, shows a great deal of Narcissism and inability to show remorse: strutting around mocking the helicopters over her house, stripping down naked to try to make the SWAT team feel embarassed- this just hours after being told she raised a mass murderer

No contrition, no sense of shame or remorse - just a total sociopathic profile

Another reason why we need a Nationwide Assault weapons ban- these two total fail as parents can't pay their bills or even seem to function as role models - Yet- they can do one thing: assist in assault weapons purchase !!

https://www.arlingtoncardinal.com/2022/07/denise-pesina-confronts-swat-personnel-and-police-exposes-breast-in-front-of-her-home-after-highland-park-parade-shooting/

I still want to know: with " Bobby Crimo JR " unemployed and Dad filing for Bankruptcy against over 1 Million in Debt and not paying either mortgage, WHERE did " Bobby Crimo Jr " get all that money to buy 5 guns ?

Follow the money and therein lies the culpability
Anonymous
Post 07/09/2022 12:43     Subject: Re:Highland park IL shooting

Anonymous wrote:This is a pretty in depth expose of Robert II's financial problems and domestic conflict:https://www.cnn.com/2022/07/08/us/highland-park-suspect-family-turmoil-invs/index.html

It appears that, in my opinion, the father's actions ( getting the knives back fro him the very night they were taken away AND 3 months later assisting his son in getting the guns despite his son's obvious showing a deep level of emotionally disturbance ) shows that perhaps he used his son as some kind of proxy to vent his own rage

Where did the money fro the 5 guns come from in a household where the Dad isn't paying the mortgage or his debts ?


I’m curious as to why the police approved the gun permit
Anonymous
Post 07/09/2022 12:37     Subject: Re:Highland park IL shooting

Anonymous wrote:If gun owners only shot other gun owners, I wouldn’t care. Live by the sword…

We have a right to remove these firearms from their hands because they shoot non-gun owners and innocent children.

I am so sick of gun owners and their so-called right’s! I have the right to go to a fricking small town 4th of July parade without the fear of getting shot by a sniper (who was a law-abiding gun owner right up until his first kill shot).


This.
Anonymous
Post 07/09/2022 11:42     Subject: Re:Highland park IL shooting

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Will we forget about this shooting too or finally ban all assault firearms and extended magazines?



A man killed 60 and wounded 400 in Las Vegas 5 years ago and it’s essentially gone from our collective memory. How many died in this one? 8? It’s a nothingburger, as they say.


We could continue to bring down the mass media definition of Mass Murder from 20 to 10 to 4, and then out then all in the national news. But only if with assault weapons by whites in historically safer office districts or neighborhoods.


Could you translate your unintelligible blithering into standard English please?


I think he’s saying that gang shootings that kill multiple people happen every day in our urban areas and nobody cares and nobody is calling them mass shootings. Mainstream media only seems to care about the “mass shootings” we hear about because it could be our kids.


Mainstream media now calls everything a mass shooting. It riles up people more. The term used to be reserved for 10+ fatalities and some news mag now goes with 4 hits or fatalities definition

4+ victims shot is the FBI’s definition and has been for decades, fool.