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I literally DGAF about the school board.

I do GAF when GOP astroturfers try to hurt our schools and our kids.

You *legit* don’t like the books? Submit a request for review. Tell your kids not to read them. Don’t spread misinformation (it’s not pedophilia FFS) or throw a tantrum at the school board to get a spot on the RWNJ channels.

It’s intellectually dishonest to play dumb on the GOP’s role here.

So many cliches. Can you go away for a spell while people try to clean up this mess?

Truth hurts.

I'll be here calling out the astroturfers each and every time.

Repeating an earlier comment: This can't be an issue about parenting and what is appropriate for the school library. Try to engage, and you'll be attacked.

For the left, EVERY issue is about politics. Politics IS their religion, sadly. This is you.

If it were an issue about parenting, then parents would have brought it up with the librarian or principal. No, it had to be a big public spectacle. A political stunt.

And enough with the intellectual dishonesty. We all know WHY this is being discussed NOW and WHO is pushing it.

I do NOT want politics in school. And I certainly don't want politicians and their lackeys (hello, PDE) hurting our schools for their own personal benefit.

It's all about politics to you. In reality, though, it's very simple. A parent uncovered this mess and made it public. Why? Because sunlight is the best disinfectant. And now concerned parents like me are aware. You'd rather that such material fly below the radar. If you're proud of this material and believe it's appropriate, then why do you care if it's existence is made public?

DP. I have no issue with this content being made public, but I do have a problem with Youngkin and other Republicans encouraging and weaponizing anti-LGBTQ sentiment to try to win elections.

Could I trouble you to provide a referecne for Youngkin and other Republicans encouraging and weaponizing anti-LGBTQ sentiment to try to win elections?

What other politicians do does not change whether the book(s) are appropriate for a school library and whether Karl Frisch should have been equating keeping them in the libraries to supporting LGBTQIA+ community members.

What politicians say about the vaccine while their party is and isn't in power doesn't change whether the vaccines are effective.

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I literally DGAF about the school board.

I do GAF when GOP astroturfers try to hurt our schools and our kids.

You *legit* don’t like the books? Submit a request for review. Tell your kids not to read them. Don’t spread misinformation (it’s not pedophilia FFS) or throw a tantrum at the school board to get a spot on the RWNJ channels.

It’s intellectually dishonest to play dumb on the GOP’s role here.

So many cliches. Can you go away for a spell while people try to clean up this mess?

Truth hurts.

I'll be here calling out the astroturfers each and every time.

Repeating an earlier comment: This can't be an issue about parenting and what is appropriate for the school library. Try to engage, and you'll be attacked.

For the left, EVERY issue is about politics. Politics IS their religion, sadly. This is you.

If it were an issue about parenting, then parents would have brought it up with the librarian or principal. No, it had to be a big public spectacle. A political stunt.

And enough with the intellectual dishonesty. We all know WHY this is being discussed NOW and WHO is pushing it.

I do NOT want politics in school. And I certainly don't want politicians and their lackeys (hello, PDE) hurting our schools for their own personal benefit.

It's all about politics to you. In reality, though, it's very simple. A parent uncovered this mess and made it public. Why? Because sunlight is the best disinfectant. And now concerned parents like me are aware. You'd rather that such material fly below the radar. If you're proud of this material and believe it's appropriate, then why do you care if it's existence is made public?

DP. I have no issue with this content being made public, but I do have a problem with Youngkin and other Republicans encouraging and weaponizing anti-LGBTQ sentiment to try to win elections.

Politicians gonna politick.

Why do you think it was "don't trust the vaccine" from Dems when Trump was in office and now it's "Take the vaccine it's great" now that Biden is in office?

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I literally DGAF about the school board.

I do GAF when GOP astroturfers try to hurt our schools and our kids.

You *legit* don’t like the books? Submit a request for review. Tell your kids not to read them. Don’t spread misinformation (it’s not pedophilia FFS) or throw a tantrum at the school board to get a spot on the RWNJ channels.

It’s intellectually dishonest to play dumb on the GOP’s role here.

So many cliches. Can you go away for a spell while people try to clean up this mess?

Truth hurts.

I'll be here calling out the astroturfers each and every time.

Repeating an earlier comment: This can't be an issue about parenting and what is appropriate for the school library. Try to engage, and you'll be attacked.

For the left, EVERY issue is about politics. Politics IS their religion, sadly. This is you.

If it were an issue about parenting, then parents would have brought it up with the librarian or principal. No, it had to be a big public spectacle. A political stunt.

And enough with the intellectual dishonesty. We all know WHY this is being discussed NOW and WHO is pushing it.

I do NOT want politics in school. And I certainly don't want politicians and their lackeys (hello, PDE) hurting our schools for their own personal benefit.

It's all about politics to you. In reality, though, it's very simple. A parent uncovered this mess and made it public. Why? Because sunlight is the best disinfectant. And now concerned parents like me are aware. You'd rather that such material fly below the radar. If you're proud of this material and believe it's appropriate, then why do you care if it's existence is made public?

DP. I have no issue with this content being made public, but I do have a problem with Youngkin and other Republicans encouraging and weaponizing anti-LGBTQ sentiment to try to win elections.

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I literally DGAF about the school board.

I do GAF when GOP astroturfers try to hurt our schools and our kids.

You *legit* don’t like the books? Submit a request for review. Tell your kids not to read them. Don’t spread misinformation (it’s not pedophilia FFS) or throw a tantrum at the school board to get a spot on the RWNJ channels.

It’s intellectually dishonest to play dumb on the GOP’s role here.

So many cliches. Can you go away for a spell while people try to clean up this mess?

Truth hurts.

I'll be here calling out the astroturfers each and every time.

Repeating an earlier comment: This can't be an issue about parenting and what is appropriate for the school library. Try to engage, and you'll be attacked.

For the left, EVERY issue is about politics. Politics IS their religion, sadly. This is you.

If it were an issue about parenting, then parents would have brought it up with the librarian or principal. No, it had to be a big public spectacle. A political stunt.

And enough with the intellectual dishonesty. We all know WHY this is being discussed NOW and WHO is pushing it.

I do NOT want politics in school. And I certainly don't want politicians and their lackeys (hello, PDE) hurting our schools for their own personal benefit.

It's all about politics to you. In reality, though, it's very simple. A parent uncovered this mess and made it public. Why? Because sunlight is the best disinfectant. And now concerned parents like me are aware. You'd rather that such material fly below the radar. If you're proud of this material and believe it's appropriate, then why do you care if it's existence is made public?

You know why people are objecting to the manner in which she chose to do this. Even people who disagree with the content.

I’ll b so happy we the election is over and the BS gets toned down.. There was time when I was considering voting for Youngkin based on schools. But I can’t if it means education turns into a Trumpy shock and awe mess.

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I literally DGAF about the school board.

I do GAF when GOP astroturfers try to hurt our schools and our kids.

You *legit* don’t like the books? Submit a request for review. Tell your kids not to read them. Don’t spread misinformation (it’s not pedophilia FFS) or throw a tantrum at the school board to get a spot on the RWNJ channels.

It’s intellectually dishonest to play dumb on the GOP’s role here.

So many cliches. Can you go away for a spell while people try to clean up this mess?

Truth hurts.

I'll be here calling out the astroturfers each and every time.

Repeating an earlier comment: This can't be an issue about parenting and what is appropriate for the school library. Try to engage, and you'll be attacked.

For the left, EVERY issue is about politics. Politics IS their religion, sadly. This is you.

If it were an issue about parenting, then parents would have brought it up with the librarian or principal. No, it had to be a big public spectacle. A political stunt.

And enough with the intellectual dishonesty. We all know WHY this is being discussed NOW and WHO is pushing it.

I do NOT want politics in school. And I certainly don't want politicians and their lackeys (hello, PDE) hurting our schools for their own personal benefit.

It's all about politics to you. In reality, though, it's very simple. A parent uncovered this mess and made it public. Why? Because sunlight is the best disinfectant. And now concerned parents like me are aware. You'd rather that such material fly below the radar. If you're proud of this material and believe it's appropriate, then why do you care if it's existence is made public?

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These are your Democrats people.

The sad thing is these folks think they are being clever with this type of rhetorical jiu jitsu. Normal people see through it as an obvious attempt to deflect and avoid dealing with the problem.

Agreed. However, our flaw is that in the spirit of sincere thought and rational exchanges, we think/hope these folk will be persuaded. As evidenced by this thread, they won't.

What we should be doing (as some have), is calling them out for encouraging the moral decline of the system. Defining deviancy down.

Young people explore their sexuality. There is nothing deviant about that.

You have done weird hang-ups.

School is not the place to teach that/

Books to read in high school are how we take kids and (hopefully) turn them into thoughtful mature adults. Sexuality is part of life and it's definitely part of life for high schoolers, whether they're having it or not. I'm fine with the books in question, though I understand good faith disagreement on that, but I'm really troubled by the broader implication that there can be no sex in high school libraries. The culture is awash in sex and actual pornography, a place where high schoolers can see depictions of adult sexuality that AREN'T Pornhub is really important, now more than ever.

I don't think getting rid of smutty books in FCPS libraries means the end of Family Life Education. These books don't pass the smell test. I can understand why those who have a knee-jerk reaction to defend everything FCPS does and the all-Democratic School Board that's responsible for the oversight of FCPS might try to move the goal posts here, but it's not going to make those particular books less objectionable.

I literally DGAF about the school board.

I do GAF when GOP astroturfers try to hurt our schools and our kids.

You *legit* don’t like the books? Submit a request for review. Tell your kids not to read them. Don’t spread misinformation (it’s not pedophilia FFS) or throw a tantrum at the school board to get a spot on the RWNJ channels.

It’s intellectually dishonest to play dumb on the GOP’s role here.

So many cliches. Can you go away for a spell while people try to clean up this mess?

Truth hurts.

I'll be here calling out the astroturfers each and every time.

Repeating an earlier comment: This can't be an issue about parenting and what is appropriate for the school library. Try to engage, and you'll be attacked.

For the left, EVERY issue is about politics. Politics IS their religion, sadly. This is you.

If this had been brought to the Citizen Committee for an adult discussion, there would have been a adult discussion. Instead, you started wit Fox News.

We’ve had to put up with public, time-wasting, performative acts of wokeness and virtue signaling by this School Board for years but, sure, tell the parents to take their concerns to the Politburo (Citizen Committee) rather than reciprocate in kind.

Perhaps what really bothers you is that parents aren’t turning out to be quite the docile peasants you’d counted on.

+1

You know. As I watch this, I’m realizing how bad off year elections are. Every single fall we end up putting up with crap like this because we have a state, local or National election. And in off year elections, you have to gin up a lot outrage to get people to the polls. Other states get a year off once in a while. I hate this.

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These are your Democrats people.

The sad thing is these folks think they are being clever with this type of rhetorical jiu jitsu. Normal people see through it as an obvious attempt to deflect and avoid dealing with the problem.

Agreed. However, our flaw is that in the spirit of sincere thought and rational exchanges, we think/hope these folk will be persuaded. As evidenced by this thread, they won't.

What we should be doing (as some have), is calling them out for encouraging the moral decline of the system. Defining deviancy down.

Young people explore their sexuality. There is nothing deviant about that.

You have done weird hang-ups.

School is not the place to teach that/

Books to read in high school are how we take kids and (hopefully) turn them into thoughtful mature adults. Sexuality is part of life and it's definitely part of life for high schoolers, whether they're having it or not. I'm fine with the books in question, though I understand good faith disagreement on that, but I'm really troubled by the broader implication that there can be no sex in high school libraries. The culture is awash in sex and actual pornography, a place where high schoolers can see depictions of adult sexuality that AREN'T Pornhub is really important, now more than ever.

I don't think getting rid of smutty books in FCPS libraries means the end of Family Life Education. These books don't pass the smell test. I can understand why those who have a knee-jerk reaction to defend everything FCPS does and the all-Democratic School Board that's responsible for the oversight of FCPS might try to move the goal posts here, but it's not going to make those particular books less objectionable.

I literally DGAF about the school board.

I do GAF when GOP astroturfers try to hurt our schools and our kids.

You *legit* don’t like the books? Submit a request for review. Tell your kids not to read them. Don’t spread misinformation (it’s not pedophilia FFS) or throw a tantrum at the school board to get a spot on the RWNJ channels.

It’s intellectually dishonest to play dumb on the GOP’s role here.

So many cliches. Can you go away for a spell while people try to clean up this mess?

Truth hurts.

I'll be here calling out the astroturfers each and every time.

Repeating an earlier comment: This can't be an issue about parenting and what is appropriate for the school library. Try to engage, and you'll be attacked.

For the left, EVERY issue is about politics. Politics IS their religion, sadly. This is you.

If this had been brought to the Citizen Committee for an adult discussion, there would have been a adult discussion. Instead, you started wit Fox News.

We’ve had to put up with public, time-wasting, performative acts of wokeness and virtue signaling by this School Board for years but, sure, tell the parents to take their concerns to the Politburo (Citizen Committee) rather than reciprocate in kind.

Perhaps what really bothers you is that parents aren’t turning out to be quite the docile peasants you’d counted on.

You know, if you acutally care about this issue, the Politburo would be glad to have you too. They ask for parent ad student volunteers every year. Go apply.

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Anonymous wrote:Double and triple down.

These are your Democrats people.

The sad thing is these folks think they are being clever with this type of rhetorical jiu jitsu. Normal people see through it as an obvious attempt to deflect and avoid dealing with the problem.

Agreed. However, our flaw is that in the spirit of sincere thought and rational exchanges, we think/hope these folk will be persuaded. As evidenced by this thread, they won't.

What we should be doing (as some have), is calling them out for encouraging the moral decline of the system. Defining deviancy down.

Young people explore their sexuality. There is nothing deviant about that.

You have done weird hang-ups.

School is not the place to teach that/

Books to read in high school are how we take kids and (hopefully) turn them into thoughtful mature adults. Sexuality is part of life and it's definitely part of life for high schoolers, whether they're having it or not. I'm fine with the books in question, though I understand good faith disagreement on that, but I'm really troubled by the broader implication that there can be no sex in high school libraries. The culture is awash in sex and actual pornography, a place where high schoolers can see depictions of adult sexuality that AREN'T Pornhub is really important, now more than ever.

I don't think getting rid of smutty books in FCPS libraries means the end of Family Life Education. These books don't pass the smell test. I can understand why those who have a knee-jerk reaction to defend everything FCPS does and the all-Democratic School Board that's responsible for the oversight of FCPS might try to move the goal posts here, but it's not going to make those particular books less objectionable.

I literally DGAF about the school board.

I do GAF when GOP astroturfers try to hurt our schools and our kids.

You *legit* don’t like the books? Submit a request for review. Tell your kids not to read them. Don’t spread misinformation (it’s not pedophilia FFS) or throw a tantrum at the school board to get a spot on the RWNJ channels.

It’s intellectually dishonest to play dumb on the GOP’s role here.

So many cliches. Can you go away for a spell while people try to clean up this mess?

Truth hurts.

I'll be here calling out the astroturfers each and every time.

Repeating an earlier comment: This can't be an issue about parenting and what is appropriate for the school library. Try to engage, and you'll be attacked.

For the left, EVERY issue is about politics. Politics IS their religion, sadly. This is you.

If this had been brought to the Citizen Committee for an adult discussion, there would have been a adult discussion. Instead, you started wit Fox News.

We’ve had to put up with public, time-wasting, performative acts of wokeness and virtue signaling by this School Board for years but, sure, tell the parents to take their concerns to the Politburo (Citizen Committee) rather than reciprocate in kind.

Perhaps what really bothers you is that parents aren’t turning out to be quite the docile peasants you’d counted on.

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Anonymous wrote:The saddest part to me is that books like To Kill a Mockingbird and Huckleberry Finn are offensive now and not being read in school.

Excellent point

Why on earth do you think that? They aren't banned in FCPS. They are even on these librarian's book list:

https://robinsonss-fcps.libguides.com/c.php?g=586909&p=4082586

Exactly - I know of one county that they are banned in "Appomattox" County Va. But you know what folks this is FCPS, I don't live in Appomattox county for a reason, and from what I know about that neck of the woods I am actually okay with their making the choice they did. Like it or not, this is a cosmopolitan area, banning books doesn't fly in this neck of the woods.

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Anonymous wrote:Double and triple down.

These are your Democrats people.

The sad thing is these folks think they are being clever with this type of rhetorical jiu jitsu. Normal people see through it as an obvious attempt to deflect and avoid dealing with the problem.

Agreed. However, our flaw is that in the spirit of sincere thought and rational exchanges, we think/hope these folk will be persuaded. As evidenced by this thread, they won't.

What we should be doing (as some have), is calling them out for encouraging the moral decline of the system. Defining deviancy down.

Young people explore their sexuality. There is nothing deviant about that.

You have done weird hang-ups.

School is not the place to teach that/

Books to read in high school are how we take kids and (hopefully) turn them into thoughtful mature adults. Sexuality is part of life and it's definitely part of life for high schoolers, whether they're having it or not. I'm fine with the books in question, though I understand good faith disagreement on that, but I'm really troubled by the broader implication that there can be no sex in high school libraries. The culture is awash in sex and actual pornography, a place where high schoolers can see depictions of adult sexuality that AREN'T Pornhub is really important, now more than ever.

I don't think getting rid of smutty books in FCPS libraries means the end of Family Life Education. These books don't pass the smell test. I can understand why those who have a knee-jerk reaction to defend everything FCPS does and the all-Democratic School Board that's responsible for the oversight of FCPS might try to move the goal posts here, but it's not going to make those particular books less objectionable.

I literally DGAF about the school board.

I do GAF when GOP astroturfers try to hurt our schools and our kids.

You *legit* don’t like the books? Submit a request for review. Tell your kids not to read them. Don’t spread misinformation (it’s not pedophilia FFS) or throw a tantrum at the school board to get a spot on the RWNJ channels.

It’s intellectually dishonest to play dumb on the GOP’s role here.

So many cliches. Can you go away for a spell while people try to clean up this mess?

Truth hurts.

I'll be here calling out the astroturfers each and every time.

Repeating an earlier comment: This can't be an issue about parenting and what is appropriate for the school library. Try to engage, and you'll be attacked.

For the left, EVERY issue is about politics. Politics IS their religion, sadly. This is you.

If this had been brought to the Citizen Committee for an adult discussion, there would have been a adult discussion. Instead, you started wit Fox News.

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Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Double and triple down.

These are your Democrats people.

The sad thing is these folks think they are being clever with this type of rhetorical jiu jitsu. Normal people see through it as an obvious attempt to deflect and avoid dealing with the problem.

Agreed. However, our flaw is that in the spirit of sincere thought and rational exchanges, we think/hope these folk will be persuaded. As evidenced by this thread, they won't.

What we should be doing (as some have), is calling them out for encouraging the moral decline of the system. Defining deviancy down.

Young people explore their sexuality. There is nothing deviant about that.

You have done weird hang-ups.

School is not the place to teach that/

Books to read in high school are how we take kids and (hopefully) turn them into thoughtful mature adults. Sexuality is part of life and it's definitely part of life for high schoolers, whether they're having it or not. I'm fine with the books in question, though I understand good faith disagreement on that, but I'm really troubled by the broader implication that there can be no sex in high school libraries. The culture is awash in sex and actual pornography, a place where high schoolers can see depictions of adult sexuality that AREN'T Pornhub is really important, now more than ever.

I don't think getting rid of smutty books in FCPS libraries means the end of Family Life Education. These books don't pass the smell test. I can understand why those who have a knee-jerk reaction to defend everything FCPS does and the all-Democratic School Board that's responsible for the oversight of FCPS might try to move the goal posts here, but it's not going to make those particular books less objectionable.

I literally DGAF about the school board.

I do GAF when GOP astroturfers try to hurt our schools and our kids.

You *legit* don’t like the books? Submit a request for review. Tell your kids not to read them. Don’t spread misinformation (it’s not pedophilia FFS) or throw a tantrum at the school board to get a spot on the RWNJ channels.

It’s intellectually dishonest to play dumb on the GOP’s role here.

So many cliches. Can you go away for a spell while people try to clean up this mess?

Truth hurts.

I'll be here calling out the astroturfers each and every time.

Repeating an earlier comment: This can't be an issue about parenting and what is appropriate for the school library. Try to engage, and you'll be attacked.

For the left, EVERY issue is about politics. Politics IS their religion, sadly. This is you.

If it were an issue about parenting, then parents would have brought it up with the librarian or principal. No, it had to be a big public spectacle. A political stunt.

And enough with the intellectual dishonesty. We all know WHY this is being discussed NOW and WHO is pushing it.

I do NOT want politics in school. And I certainly don't want politicians and their lackeys (hello, PDE) hurting our schools for their own personal benefit.

So much this. This SB needs to be focused on Quarantine, test to stay, learning loss, outdoor spaces. This tied them in knots for a week and could have been dealt with at the school level. So that’s week we didn’t get test to stay. These stunts are annoying because there are real problems. And yes, Naormi jumping on this so hard six weeks before an election is a pretty big tell about why this now. When most parents are exhausted me want the schools to stay open and. Break from the drama. Which doesn’t mean not dealing with a book you find offensive. But does mean doing so like a adult

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Anonymous wrote:Double and triple down.

These are your Democrats people.

The sad thing is these folks think they are being clever with this type of rhetorical jiu jitsu. Normal people see through it as an obvious attempt to deflect and avoid dealing with the problem.

Agreed. However, our flaw is that in the spirit of sincere thought and rational exchanges, we think/hope these folk will be persuaded. As evidenced by this thread, they won't.

What we should be doing (as some have), is calling them out for encouraging the moral decline of the system. Defining deviancy down.

Young people explore their sexuality. There is nothing deviant about that.

You have done weird hang-ups.

School is not the place to teach that/

Books to read in high school are how we take kids and (hopefully) turn them into thoughtful mature adults. Sexuality is part of life and it's definitely part of life for high schoolers, whether they're having it or not. I'm fine with the books in question, though I understand good faith disagreement on that, but I'm really troubled by the broader implication that there can be no sex in high school libraries. The culture is awash in sex and actual pornography, a place where high schoolers can see depictions of adult sexuality that AREN'T Pornhub is really important, now more than ever.

The same can be said of opiates, other drugs, alcohol, cigarettes, and vaping. American culture is awash with combinations of these things.

Should kids explore heroin, smoking, beer, and vapes at school too?

You really aren't very bright, are you? I have not one iota of doubt that you are a flat earther and that you haven't actually read a book (not counting the board books you MAY have read as a toddler or perhaps you read to your toddlers) in your entire life. You are genuinely confused and sad. I almost feel sorry for you. Please just stop. Have a cup of tea, tidy up your kitchen and go to bed.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Double and triple down.

These are your Democrats people.

The sad thing is these folks think they are being clever with this type of rhetorical jiu jitsu. Normal people see through it as an obvious attempt to deflect and avoid dealing with the problem.

Agreed. However, our flaw is that in the spirit of sincere thought and rational exchanges, we think/hope these folk will be persuaded. As evidenced by this thread, they won't.

What we should be doing (as some have), is calling them out for encouraging the moral decline of the system. Defining deviancy down.

Young people explore their sexuality. There is nothing deviant about that.

You have done weird hang-ups.

School is not the place to teach that/

Books to read in high school are how we take kids and (hopefully) turn them into thoughtful mature adults. Sexuality is part of life and it's definitely part of life for high schoolers, whether they're having it or not. I'm fine with the books in question, though I understand good faith disagreement on that, but I'm really troubled by the broader implication that there can be no sex in high school libraries. The culture is awash in sex and actual pornography, a place where high schoolers can see depictions of adult sexuality that AREN'T Pornhub is really important, now more than ever.

The same can be said of opiates, other drugs, alcohol, cigarettes, and vaping. American culture is awash with combinations of these things.

Should kids explore heroin, smoking, beer, and vapes at school too?

Define explore. Don’t have sex at school. Don’t vape, drink, do drugs. All ground rules I hope we can agree on. But exposed as in, read about it? Well, that’s about the time they read Catcher in the Rye. So yes, they read books with characters who drink, smoke, etc.