Anonymous wrote:What I don't get are why pro-Russian posters are egging on the war, instead of just withdrawing and leaving Ukraine alone? I'm seriously wondering if they know their kids are out of the country, or they want to replace Putin; so hoping Russia collapses by expending itself on Ukraine so their kids can return to a different regime?

American who is anti-Ukrainian war

1. I want the us to be more actively involved in Mexico and latam - Russia exerting influence in Ukraine gives us more justification for future kinetic actions in Mexico

2. Multipolarity is here - deal with it

3. Knocking off russian commodity market is stupid - it’s bad for the entire world and makes Saudi’s more powerful

4. I don’t really like Eastern Europeans. Let them fight amongst themselves, let’s not sanction anyone - let’s get energy flowing back into Western Europe.

This was is just helping saudis (don’t like Arabs), eastern bloc of eu (should’ve never been invited in the first place), and hurting the us and Western Europe

Lastly, Z is more annoying that Putin or bibi or mbs - I never thought that was even possible. He’s that cringe

Cut off aid now.

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Anonymous wrote:What I don't get are why pro-Russian posters are egging on the war, instead of just withdrawing and leaving Ukraine alone? I'm seriously wondering if they know their kids are out of the country, or they want to replace Putin; so hoping Russia collapses by expending itself on Ukraine so their kids can return to a different regime?

Many of them were proud of Russia's strong identity (past tense of course) and have been embarrassed by their military's pathetic performance. They've lost half their army and increasing numbers of their navy to secure a land bridge they're about to lose. Some of them back Trump, who backs Russia because he once peed on a Russian model. I think it's doing to depend who you're specifically talking about.

Doesn’t he support a Russia because they loaned him tons of money after American and other banks refused due to his terrible business skills/ multiple bankruptcies ?

Isn’t the video of him peeing on a Russian model used to keep him line and spouting Russian propaganda points as he slavishly did while in office (favoring their takes over US intelligence)?

That sounds right. Maybe the pro-Russia supporter will come back to discuss his golden shower-based foreign policy and we can clarify.

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Anonymous wrote:So to summarize team Ukraine today:
Yay new weapons to blow up a civilian bridge!
Trying to win a land war by targeting their opponents navy.
At least your not talking about poisoning water supplies anymore.

No wonder so many supporters are writing them off now. They've been revealed to be blood-thirsty and not very competent.

I understand that Ukraine actually targeting military targets must be confusing to you because of Russia’s strategy of terror. Keep reading though, and you still have a chance to catch up.

It seems like every time Russia supposedly attacks civilians, it turns out to be nothing of the sort.

Remember when that hotel got hit and everyone was upset, and then it came out there was a military drone exhibition going on?
Remember when that missile hit the market and everyone blamed Russia? Turns out it was a Ukrainian missile.
Remember when ZPP was being shelled? That was Ukraine too.

Then you turn around and fly drones into apartment buildings and kill families crossing the Kerch bridge, and celebrate like you just took Moscow. Its far too transparent now.

Its just all hoaxes, false-flagging and a hatred for all living things with you people. All so you can boss around some ethnic Russians who happened to get trapped on the wrong side of a boarder when the USSR broke up.

Those people don't want to take orders from Zelensky, they want to live.

You cannot be serious

There are endless videos of Russians have bombed Ukraine schools, hospitals, villages, and urban non military buildings …

The level of unnecessary human suffering to appease this madman’s imperial ambitions is beyond belief.

There is no justification for this illegal war.

When Russian attacks such places, its because that's where Ukraine is hiding its troops and equipment. I'm sure you've heard of human shields before? Its a war crime.

Hiding among the civilian population is the only thing keeping Ukraine's military operational. If Russia didn't care about civilian casualties, they would just wipe out every possible hiding space the UA could use.

If you want to save lives, tell your buddies in Ukraine to stop hiding behind women and children. You won't do it though, because getting your own civilians killed is part of your strategy. Sick country, supported by sick people.

You are not even trying anymore. No links at all -- even from the Kremlin--showing that all the schools, hospitals, and apartments bombed by Russian in Ukraine were actually military installations? How about going through this list of Russian war crimes and saying which occurred because Ukrainians were hiding behind women and children?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_crimes_in_the_Russian_invasion_of_Ukraine

Why did Ukraine support the Azeri takeover of Artsakh, knowing full well it will result in ethnic cleansing and mass exodus of civilians?

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Anonymous wrote:So to summarize team Ukraine today:
Yay new weapons to blow up a civilian bridge!
Trying to win a land war by targeting their opponents navy.
At least your not talking about poisoning water supplies anymore.

No wonder so many supporters are writing them off now. They've been revealed to be blood-thirsty and not very competent.

I understand that Ukraine actually targeting military targets must be confusing to you because of Russia’s strategy of terror. Keep reading though, and you still have a chance to catch up.

It seems like every time Russia supposedly attacks civilians, it turns out to be nothing of the sort.

Remember when that hotel got hit and everyone was upset, and then it came out there was a military drone exhibition going on?
Remember when that missile hit the market and everyone blamed Russia? Turns out it was a Ukrainian missile.
Remember when ZPP was being shelled? That was Ukraine too.

Then you turn around and fly drones into apartment buildings and kill families crossing the Kerch bridge, and celebrate like you just took Moscow. Its far too transparent now.

Its just all hoaxes, false-flagging and a hatred for all living things with you people. All so you can boss around some ethnic Russians who happened to get trapped on the wrong side of a boarder when the USSR broke up.

Those people don't want to take orders from Zelensky, they want to live.

You cannot be serious

There are endless videos of Russians have bombed Ukraine schools, hospitals, villages, and urban non military buildings …

The level of unnecessary human suffering to appease this madman’s imperial ambitions is beyond belief.

There is no justification for this illegal war.

When Russian attacks such places, its because that's where Ukraine is hiding its troops and equipment. I'm sure you've heard of human shields before? Its a war crime.

Hiding among the civilian population is the only thing keeping Ukraine's military operational. If Russia didn't care about civilian casualties, they would just wipe out every possible hiding space the UA could use.

If you want to save lives, tell your buddies in Ukraine to stop hiding behind women and children. You won't do it though, because getting your own civilians killed is part of your strategy. Sick country, supported by sick people.

You are not even trying anymore. No links at all -- even from the Kremlin--showing that all the schools, hospitals, and apartments bombed by Russian in Ukraine were actually military installations? How about going through this list of Russian war crimes and saying which occurred because Ukrainians were hiding behind women and children?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_crimes_in_the_Russian_invasion_of_Ukraine

The entire first section is a tribute to Russia saving children from being sent into the meat-grinder by Zelensky. I don't know if you've looked at pictures of any POW's lately, but there are a ton of "18 year olds" and old men surrendering.

The rest of it is pretty weak, for instance: "On 25 February, Amnesty International stated that Russian forces had "shown a blatant disregard for civilian lives by using ballistic missiles and other explosive weapons with wide area effects in densely populated areas." That just happens to be the very thing Ukraine backers are cackling with glee about every time they get a new toy. I bet they are already figuring out what apartment buildings they can hit with ATACMS. Its also what they did for 8 years to Donbas civilians.

Basically, Russia is being accused of engaging in combat.

Good luck with that absurd argument at the Den Hague war tribunal …

The same tribunal America works so hard to avoid?

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Anonymous wrote:What I don't get are why pro-Russian posters are egging on the war, instead of just withdrawing and leaving Ukraine alone? I'm seriously wondering if they know their kids are out of the country, or they want to replace Putin; so hoping Russia collapses by expending itself on Ukraine so their kids can return to a different regime?

Many of them were proud of Russia's strong identity (past tense of course) and have been embarrassed by their military's pathetic performance. They've lost half their army and increasing numbers of their navy to secure a land bridge they're about to lose. Some of them back Trump, who backs Russia because he once peed on a Russian model. I think it's doing to depend who you're specifically talking about.

Doesn’t he support a Russia because they loaned him tons of money after American and other banks refused due to his terrible business skills/ multiple bankruptcies ?

Isn’t the video of him peeing on a Russian model used to keep him line and spouting Russian propaganda points as he slavishly did while in office (favoring their takes over US intelligence)?

Anonymous wrote:What I don't get are why pro-Russian posters are egging on the war, instead of just withdrawing and leaving Ukraine alone? I'm seriously wondering if they know their kids are out of the country, or they want to replace Putin; so hoping Russia collapses by expending itself on Ukraine so their kids can return to a different regime?

Many of them were proud of Russia's strong identity (past tense of course) and have been embarrassed by their military's pathetic performance. They've lost half their army and increasing numbers of their navy to secure a land bridge they're about to lose. Some of them back Trump, who backs Russia because he once peed on a Russian model. I think it's doing to depend who you're specifically talking about.

And I think the St. Petersburg evening shift probably ends 8 or 9 pm Moscow time? You notice how the pro-Russian posts die down after 2'ish in the afternoon?

What I don't get are why pro-Russian posters are egging on the war, instead of just withdrawing and leaving Ukraine alone? I'm seriously wondering if they know their kids are out of the country, or they want to replace Putin; so hoping Russia collapses by expending itself on Ukraine so their kids can return to a different regime?

Anonymous wrote:Its good to know in trying times like this, not every ally has abandoned Ukraine: https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2023/09/22/zelensky-asks-marina-abramovic-ambassador-ukraine/

I'm sure the schools she helps "rebuild" will be completely normal and not the least bit satanic.

This is how Russia "rebuilds" schools:

"there is now an active state-managed children’s organization – the Movement of the First – across the country. Its annual budget of 19 billion rubles ($197 million) is greater than the entire annual state budget for pharmaceutical manufacturing, even though the Movement was only established in December last year."
"Little Eagles, a patriotic movement for primary-school children, and VOIN (Warrior), which organizes activities like shooting practice for young people. Despite its novelty, VOIN is now responsible for ensuring the patriotic education of children across the entirety of Khabarovsk region, with a special focus on those nearing the age of conscription. "
"it also marks a longer-term transformation of Russian society toward a constant war footing."
https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2023/09/22/russia-is-preparing-the-next-generation-to-die-for-their-country-a82536

Russia has not only cut off foreign currency exchange until the end of the year, but apparently processed fuel as well?

"Putin has halted virtually all exports of gasoline and diesel out of the country to lessen the pain for average Russians and protect the nation's food supply."
https://fortune.com/2023/09/22/russia-gasoline-diesel-export-ban-vladimir-putin-ukraine-war/

Once Ukraine gets long-range weaponry, these are the types of high-value targets they should consider besides the Crimea Bridge:

"Russian military unit Kaskad allows careerist Russian politicians and their sons of military age to boast of having participated in the Ukraine war"
"detachment of friends, including MPs and their children". "All of them want to present themselves as having participated in the war but do not want to go to the front,"
"Kaskad's fighters are not as bold as they suggest. "From what we know, the unit was never within 80 kilometers of the fighting,""
https://www.tellerreport.com/news/2023-05-12-kaskad--the-military-unit-where-the-russian-elite-can-%22play-war%22-in-ukraine.S1eNtay3E2.html

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Anonymous wrote:So to summarize team Ukraine today:
Yay new weapons to blow up a civilian bridge!
Trying to win a land war by targeting their opponents navy.
At least your not talking about poisoning water supplies anymore.

No wonder so many supporters are writing them off now. They've been revealed to be blood-thirsty and not very competent.

I understand that Ukraine actually targeting military targets must be confusing to you because of Russia’s strategy of terror. Keep reading though, and you still have a chance to catch up.

It seems like every time Russia supposedly attacks civilians, it turns out to be nothing of the sort.

Remember when that hotel got hit and everyone was upset, and then it came out there was a military drone exhibition going on?
Remember when that missile hit the market and everyone blamed Russia? Turns out it was a Ukrainian missile.
Remember when ZPP was being shelled? That was Ukraine too.

Then you turn around and fly drones into apartment buildings and kill families crossing the Kerch bridge, and celebrate like you just took Moscow. Its far too transparent now.

Its just all hoaxes, false-flagging and a hatred for all living things with you people. All so you can boss around some ethnic Russians who happened to get trapped on the wrong side of a boarder when the USSR broke up.

Those people don't want to take orders from Zelensky, they want to live.

You cannot be serious

There are endless videos of Russians have bombed Ukraine schools, hospitals, villages, and urban non military buildings …

The level of unnecessary human suffering to appease this madman’s imperial ambitions is beyond belief.

There is no justification for this illegal war.

When Russian attacks such places, its because that's where Ukraine is hiding its troops and equipment. I'm sure you've heard of human shields before? Its a war crime.

Hiding among the civilian population is the only thing keeping Ukraine's military operational. If Russia didn't care about civilian casualties, they would just wipe out every possible hiding space the UA could use.

If you want to save lives, tell your buddies in Ukraine to stop hiding behind women and children. You won't do it though, because getting your own civilians killed is part of your strategy. Sick country, supported by sick people.

You are not even trying anymore. No links at all -- even from the Kremlin--showing that all the schools, hospitals, and apartments bombed by Russian in Ukraine were actually military installations? How about going through this list of Russian war crimes and saying which occurred because Ukrainians were hiding behind women and children?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_crimes_in_the_Russian_invasion_of_Ukraine

The entire first section is a tribute to Russia saving children from being sent into the meat-grinder by Zelensky. I don't know if you've looked at pictures of any POW's lately, but there are a ton of "18 year olds" and old men surrendering.

The rest of it is pretty weak, for instance: "On 25 February, Amnesty International stated that Russian forces had "shown a blatant disregard for civilian lives by using ballistic missiles and other explosive weapons with wide area effects in densely populated areas." That just happens to be the very thing Ukraine backers are cackling with glee about every time they get a new toy. I bet they are already figuring out what apartment buildings they can hit with ATACMS. Its also what they did for 8 years to Donbas civilians.

Basically, Russia is being accused of engaging in combat.

Good luck with that absurd argument at the Den Hague war tribunal …

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Anonymous wrote:So to summarize team Ukraine today:
Yay new weapons to blow up a civilian bridge!
Trying to win a land war by targeting their opponents navy.
At least your not talking about poisoning water supplies anymore.

No wonder so many supporters are writing them off now. They've been revealed to be blood-thirsty and not very competent.

I understand that Ukraine actually targeting military targets must be confusing to you because of Russia’s strategy of terror. Keep reading though, and you still have a chance to catch up.

It seems like every time Russia supposedly attacks civilians, it turns out to be nothing of the sort.

Remember when that hotel got hit and everyone was upset, and then it came out there was a military drone exhibition going on?
Remember when that missile hit the market and everyone blamed Russia? Turns out it was a Ukrainian missile.
Remember when ZPP was being shelled? That was Ukraine too.

Then you turn around and fly drones into apartment buildings and kill families crossing the Kerch bridge, and celebrate like you just took Moscow. Its far too transparent now.

Its just all hoaxes, false-flagging and a hatred for all living things with you people. All so you can boss around some ethnic Russians who happened to get trapped on the wrong side of a boarder when the USSR broke up.

Those people don't want to take orders from Zelensky, they want to live.

You cannot be serious

There are endless videos of Russians have bombed Ukraine schools, hospitals, villages, and urban non military buildings …

The level of unnecessary human suffering to appease this madman’s imperial ambitions is beyond belief.

There is no justification for this illegal war.

When Russian attacks such places, its because that's where Ukraine is hiding its troops and equipment. I'm sure you've heard of human shields before? Its a war crime.

Hiding among the civilian population is the only thing keeping Ukraine's military operational. If Russia didn't care about civilian casualties, they would just wipe out every possible hiding space the UA could use.

If you want to save lives, tell your buddies in Ukraine to stop hiding behind women and children. You won't do it though, because getting your own civilians killed is part of your strategy. Sick country, supported by sick people.

You are not even trying anymore. No links at all -- even from the Kremlin--showing that all the schools, hospitals, and apartments bombed by Russian in Ukraine were actually military installations? How about going through this list of Russian war crimes and saying which occurred because Ukrainians were hiding behind women and children?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_crimes_in_the_Russian_invasion_of_Ukraine

The entire first section is a tribute to Russia saving children from being sent into the meat-grinder by Zelensky. I don't know if you've looked at pictures of any POW's lately, but there are a ton of "18 year olds" and old men surrendering.

The rest of it is pretty weak, for instance: "On 25 February, Amnesty International stated that Russian forces had "shown a blatant disregard for civilian lives by using ballistic missiles and other explosive weapons with wide area effects in densely populated areas." That just happens to be the very thing Ukraine backers are cackling with glee about every time they get a new toy. I bet they are already figuring out what apartment buildings they can hit with ATACMS. Its also what they did for 8 years to Donbas civilians.

Basically, Russia is being accused of engaging in combat.

Ok. They’re being accused of losing lately as well. They’re doing great at that at least. Let’s see if they can get through a weekend without losing a significant naval asset.

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Anonymous wrote:So to summarize team Ukraine today:
Yay new weapons to blow up a civilian bridge!
Trying to win a land war by targeting their opponents navy.
At least your not talking about poisoning water supplies anymore.

No wonder so many supporters are writing them off now. They've been revealed to be blood-thirsty and not very competent.

I understand that Ukraine actually targeting military targets must be confusing to you because of Russia’s strategy of terror. Keep reading though, and you still have a chance to catch up.

It seems like every time Russia supposedly attacks civilians, it turns out to be nothing of the sort.

Remember when that hotel got hit and everyone was upset, and then it came out there was a military drone exhibition going on?
Remember when that missile hit the market and everyone blamed Russia? Turns out it was a Ukrainian missile.
Remember when ZPP was being shelled? That was Ukraine too.

Then you turn around and fly drones into apartment buildings and kill families crossing the Kerch bridge, and celebrate like you just took Moscow. Its far too transparent now.

Its just all hoaxes, false-flagging and a hatred for all living things with you people. All so you can boss around some ethnic Russians who happened to get trapped on the wrong side of a boarder when the USSR broke up.

Those people don't want to take orders from Zelensky, they want to live.

You cannot be serious

There are endless videos of Russians have bombed Ukraine schools, hospitals, villages, and urban non military buildings …

The level of unnecessary human suffering to appease this madman’s imperial ambitions is beyond belief.

There is no justification for this illegal war.

When Russian attacks such places, its because that's where Ukraine is hiding its troops and equipment. I'm sure you've heard of human shields before? Its a war crime.

Hiding among the civilian population is the only thing keeping Ukraine's military operational. If Russia didn't care about civilian casualties, they would just wipe out every possible hiding space the UA could use.

If you want to save lives, tell your buddies in Ukraine to stop hiding behind women and children. You won't do it though, because getting your own civilians killed is part of your strategy. Sick country, supported by sick people.

You are not even trying anymore. No links at all -- even from the Kremlin--showing that all the schools, hospitals, and apartments bombed by Russian in Ukraine were actually military installations? How about going through this list of Russian war crimes and saying which occurred because Ukrainians were hiding behind women and children?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_crimes_in_the_Russian_invasion_of_Ukraine

The entire first section is a tribute to Russia saving children from being sent into the meat-grinder by Zelensky. I don't know if you've looked at pictures of any POW's lately, but there are a ton of "18 year olds" and old men surrendering.

The rest of it is pretty weak, for instance: "On 25 February, Amnesty International stated that Russian forces had "shown a blatant disregard for civilian lives by using ballistic missiles and other explosive weapons with wide area effects in densely populated areas." That just happens to be the very thing Ukraine backers are cackling with glee about every time they get a new toy. I bet they are already figuring out what apartment buildings they can hit with ATACMS. Its also what they did for 8 years to Donbas civilians.

Basically, Russia is being accused of engaging in combat.

Anonymous wrote:Its good to know in trying times like this, not every ally has abandoned Ukraine: https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2023/09/22/zelensky-asks-marina-abramovic-ambassador-ukraine/

I'm sure the schools she helps "rebuild" will be completely normal and not the least bit satanic.

What a bizarre statement …

Its good to know in trying times like this, not every ally has abandoned Ukraine: https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2023/09/22/zelensky-asks-marina-abramovic-ambassador-ukraine/

I'm sure the schools she helps "rebuild" will be completely normal and not the least bit satanic.

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Anonymous wrote:So to summarize team Ukraine today:
Yay new weapons to blow up a civilian bridge!
Trying to win a land war by targeting their opponents navy.
At least your not talking about poisoning water supplies anymore.

No wonder so many supporters are writing them off now. They've been revealed to be blood-thirsty and not very competent.

I understand that Ukraine actually targeting military targets must be confusing to you because of Russia’s strategy of terror. Keep reading though, and you still have a chance to catch up.

It seems like every time Russia supposedly attacks civilians, it turns out to be nothing of the sort.

Remember when that hotel got hit and everyone was upset, and then it came out there was a military drone exhibition going on?
Remember when that missile hit the market and everyone blamed Russia? Turns out it was a Ukrainian missile.
Remember when ZPP was being shelled? That was Ukraine too.

Then you turn around and fly drones into apartment buildings and kill families crossing the Kerch bridge, and celebrate like you just took Moscow. Its far too transparent now.

Its just all hoaxes, false-flagging and a hatred for all living things with you people. All so you can boss around some ethnic Russians who happened to get trapped on the wrong side of a boarder when the USSR broke up.

Those people don't want to take orders from Zelensky, they want to live.

You cannot be serious

There are endless videos of Russians have bombed Ukraine schools, hospitals, villages, and urban non military buildings …

The level of unnecessary human suffering to appease this madman’s imperial ambitions is beyond belief.

There is no justification for this illegal war.

When Russian attacks such places, its because that's where Ukraine is hiding its troops and equipment. I'm sure you've heard of human shields before? Its a war crime.

Hiding among the civilian population is the only thing keeping Ukraine's military operational. If Russia didn't care about civilian casualties, they would just wipe out every possible hiding space the UA could use.

If you want to save lives, tell your buddies in Ukraine to stop hiding behind women and children. You won't do it though, because getting your own civilians killed is part of your strategy. Sick country, supported by sick people.

You are not even trying anymore. No links at all -- even from the Kremlin--showing that all the schools, hospitals, and apartments bombed by Russian in Ukraine were actually military installations? How about going through this list of Russian war crimes and saying which occurred because Ukrainians were hiding behind women and children?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_crimes_in_the_Russian_invasion_of_Ukraine