Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Modern times. It’s the norm. My adult niece came over last week, and really had a hard time with basic tasks. She doesn’t even know how to properly make a cup of coffee. She doesn’t know how to cook anything, and forgets how to do laundry. She can’t even put sheets on the bed. She’s 27.
That's women's work and modern parents don't want to teach boys or girls how to do any of that.
Huh? I don’t think so. I think it’s UMC parents doing everything for their kids so their kids can focus on school, sports, and other ECs and get into college, while missing out on essential life skills and experiences.
Anonymous wrote:I am pretty surprised about the nonchalance to riding the metro and metro buses in middle school. Yes you as a middle age woman can likely do that just fine but I remember being repeatedly sexually harassed (groped multiple times in addition to comments and a man trying to get my ID) riding on the metro when I was younger- a teenager and young adult. Aside from one workplace incident at a summer job I have not experienced that kind of sexual harassment anywhere else. I am aware my daughter will very likely have to deal with this as well but if I can keep it from happening at 11 I will.
Anonymous wrote:I am pretty surprised about the nonchalance to riding the metro and metro buses in middle school. Yes you as a middle age woman can likely do that just fine but I remember being repeatedly sexually harassed (groped multiple times in addition to comments and a man trying to get my ID) riding on the metro when I was younger- a teenager and young adult. Aside from one workplace incident at a summer job I have not experienced that kind of sexual harassment anywhere else. I am aware my daughter will very likely have to deal with this as well but if I can keep it from happening at 11 I will.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:It's a symptom of a bigger issue in current parenting trends:
Kids need experience failures in order to learn how to grow. Yet American parents are increasingly willing and able to step in and prevent their kids from failing.
This is a cheap "blame the parents" strategy that doesn't go deep enough. WHY are parents stepping in to do for their kids what previous generations might've let kids struggle through? Because there's far less time to deal with the consequences of these struggles. When homemaker mom was home to deal with skinned knees and errant sports equipment and running the occasional forgotten lunch to school, it made sense to let kids tinker and try. Now, with most families having two parents working outside the home, life is managed to the details to make sure schedules stay on track and things get done in the limited amount of "free" time parents might have.
It isn't necessarily a choice or a failing on the part of the parent(s).
Anonymous wrote:It's a symptom of a bigger issue in current parenting trends:
Kids need experience failures in order to learn how to grow. Yet American parents are increasingly willing and able to step in and prevent their kids from failing.
Anonymous wrote:My oldest is 11, so I'm barely entering the tween zone with him. Maybe my question will come off the same way questions from parents of babies come off to me, when they're like "I'll never let my child go to bed past 8pm" and "just offer them a rainbow of foods and they'll eat what their body requires, it's not that hard for me to do this with my 8 month old, you're just lazy!"
My question is basically, why are teens not allowed the same freedoms and responsibilities that we had when we were younger? I see on this board, and in some cases with the teenagers in our neighborhood, that they aren't allowed to drive more than a few hours away, aren't allowed to babysit past 10pm even on weekends, have parents stay at their sports practices, have their parents coordinating their college apps for them, etc. Obviously this stuff is a few years off for me, but what's changed? I let my 11 year old walk the half a mile to school alone with a friend, on a residential 25mph road with sidewalks and a crossing guard present at the 4 way road intersection he needs to cross to get to the school. Even if it's cold, or rainy, they walk. But barely anyone else does this even on gorgeous days. Kids get driven the half a mile by their parents. On rainy or cold days, the line to drop off in the morning is blocking traffic because it stretches down the 4 lane road that the school is on. Next year they'll be at middle school and the middle school is a mile away as opposed to a half mile away, but also completely on residential roads with one street crossing at a traffic light and his friend's mom has said she won't allow her kid to walk to middle school because of that street crossing. It's disappointing to me but am I in the minority here that I think that walk would be safe and fine, with a friend, at age 12?
Anonymous wrote:My oldest is 11, so I'm barely entering the tween zone with him. Maybe my question will come off the same way questions from parents of babies come off to me, when they're like "I'll never let my child go to bed past 8pm" and "just offer them a rainbow of foods and they'll eat what their body requires, it's not that hard for me to do this with my 8 month old, you're just lazy!"
My question is basically, why are teens not allowed the same freedoms and responsibilities that we had when we were younger? I see on this board, and in some cases with the teenagers in our neighborhood, that they aren't allowed to drive more than a few hours away, aren't allowed to babysit past 10pm even on weekends, have parents stay at their sports practices, have their parents coordinating their college apps for them, etc. Obviously this stuff is a few years off for me, but what's changed? I let my 11 year old walk the half a mile to school alone with a friend, on a residential 25mph road with sidewalks and a crossing guard present at the 4 way road intersection he needs to cross to get to the school. Even if it's cold, or rainy, they walk. But barely anyone else does this even on gorgeous days. Kids get driven the half a mile by their parents. On rainy or cold days, the line to drop off in the morning is blocking traffic because it stretches down the 4 lane road that the school is on. Next year they'll be at middle school and the middle school is a mile away as opposed to a half mile away, but also completely on residential roads with one street crossing at a traffic light and his friend's mom has said she won't allow her kid to walk to middle school because of that street crossing. It's disappointing to me but am I in the minority here that I think that walk would be safe and fine, with a friend, at age 12?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I'm personally afraid of someone calling CPS on us.
I had to fight the school to let my 9.5 year old 4th grader walk home alone. There's a crossing guard and we live 1/5 mile from school (we can see the school from our front door!). This is a quiet neighborhood with sidewalks. Even still, one day last month, the school called me and said my kid was in their office and needed picked up. They hadn't let her walk home and prevented her from doing so. It's insane. I'm still so angry at the administrator for that.
Something that worries me is all the parents who are constantly tracking their kids on their iphones or watches. I think it's mental illness on the parent's part. Half the time that they're checking, kids are in school. Do they think they're abducted from school in the middle of the day?
I unfortunately have to track my high schooler to make sure he doesn’t skip school!
This same thing happened to me a few years ago. I had given my 9 y/o permission to walk home one block from school. Signed all the forms and waivers etc. And then one afternoon I got a call because the security guard wouldn’t let her leave despite having permission. When I got there to get her, the security guard said in front of my DD that a girl should not be walking around alone when it is getting dark. It was December and it was 4:45 pm.
I have also had to fight to get permission to even sign dismissal waivers for my kids when my kids were a little under the age cutoff. One activity literally wouldn’t let me leave to go to the grocery store down the street while my 10 year old was doing the activity. I had to sign a waiver for that.
People worry about CPS. Schools and activities worry about liability. It’s so overblown. Often times I feel like the question of whether the kid can handle doing X is not even discussed or considered. It’s the appearance of things. It’s safety theater. And our kids suffer as a result.
That’s ridiculous and I’m so sorry! My kids public ES releases grades 2-5 out the front door without needing them to have anyone there to get them. So starting at age 7. They only require an adult there for K and 1st who exit out a different door. And even those kids can be picked up by an older grade sibling to walk home if the parents sign a form.
+1
This is my experience as well!
How would the school even know how kids get home?