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Anonymous wrote:In middle school centers the full-time aap kids are segregated into full time aap only classes
Non center middle school they mix with the kids who choose honors.
It does seem to be mostly the same thing....but with the segregation....

Anyone understand why they are separated in MS? If Honors and AAP are the same, why not mix??

Haven't been able to figure it out yet, same teachers, same Schoology folders, same teaching materials and homework and tests...

It is not the same material or tests at our school.

Our MS has AAP and Honors. Material, homework, tests, etc are the same. Teachers have told me it's the same curriculum, no difference. So.... why segregate?

You’re confused bc they’re lying. It’s not the same material. If it were, they’d combine the classes, it makes no sense otherwise.

Within the same team it is absolutely the same..
At least at our center. Otherwise the teachers would maintain different Schoology folders for aap and honors, but they don't... IT'S THE SAME...just segregated

In AAP the pacing is faster and the curriculum goes more in depth.

Honestly, if they weren't similar the kids would stay segregated in highschool too since they would have been taught soooooo much more

In our center MS there is only honors and AAP offered, so honors is inevitably going to move at a slower pace and cover topics in less depth since there’s really no other track offered for the kids who can’t and/or don’t want to work at that AAP pace. In high school, students can choose general track, honors and/or AP courses. Yes, there are many honors kids who can work at AAP pace in MS, but that’s a separate matter altogether. I have no idea why they chose to organize it this way. In high school the honors/AP course selection tends to more appropriately sort the students into the programming rigor they can handle.

You're flat out wrong here. All middle schools offer regular, honors, and AAP.

No, you are wrong. Some schools offer regular and honors, no AAP because they don’t have enough kids for the AAP cohort. Some schools only offer honors and AAP, regular is offered but only for kids who are behind in grade level and it is not advertised. Some schools offer all three, like the Centers do.

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Anonymous wrote:In middle school centers the full-time aap kids are segregated into full time aap only classes
Non center middle school they mix with the kids who choose honors.
It does seem to be mostly the same thing....but with the segregation....

Anyone understand why they are separated in MS? If Honors and AAP are the same, why not mix??

Because there not the same, regardless of what a lot of people want to believe. My kid in AAP at Carson completed projects and read an extra book that his friends in Honors did not do.

Honors is open to all students who want to take honors classes. There are kids who are better suited to regular classes who are in honors classes because the regular classes tend to be too slow and there are too many students in them that are disruptive. I know kids who asked to move into honors and earned C's and B-s instead of the A in the regular class because the regular classes were too slow and too disruptive. These are kids at Carson and then SLHS. The teacher for Honors is teaching kids who are a better fit for the regular class, if it was taught at the level it should be taught at, and honors students. The class has a far wider spread of abilities and needs. The AAP classes, regardless of how the kids got into them, has far more kids who belong in honors so the teachers can teach the honors level material and potentially offer extensions to the students.

There are 100% some honors classes that are on par with the AAP classes but there are plenty that cannot offer the same material. It is more of a mixed bag.

There are schools that don't offer AAP classes, because they don't have enough AAP students to offer specialized sections. Normally this is because more of the AAP kids choose the Center over the base school. Because the classes are mixed, parents will choose to send their kid to the Center. These tend to be the schools were 7th graders in Algebra 1 end up in class with 8th graders and there might not be enough kids to handle a Geometry class in 8th grade.

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Anonymous wrote:In middle school centers the full-time aap kids are segregated into full time aap only classes
Non center middle school they mix with the kids who choose honors.
It does seem to be mostly the same thing....but with the segregation....

Anyone understand why they are separated in MS? If Honors and AAP are the same, why not mix??

Haven't been able to figure it out yet, same teachers, same Schoology folders, same teaching materials and homework and tests...

It is not the same material or tests at our school.

Our MS has AAP and Honors. Material, homework, tests, etc are the same. Teachers have told me it's the same curriculum, no difference. So.... why segregate?

You’re confused bc they’re lying. It’s not the same material. If it were, they’d combine the classes, it makes no sense otherwise.

Within the same team it is absolutely the same..
At least at our center. Otherwise the teachers would maintain different Schoology folders for aap and honors, but they don't... IT'S THE SAME...just segregated

In AAP the pacing is faster and the curriculum goes more in depth.

Honestly, if they weren't similar the kids would stay segregated in highschool too since they would have been taught soooooo much more

In our center MS there is only honors and AAP offered, so honors is inevitably going to move at a slower pace and cover topics in less depth since there’s really no other track offered for the kids who can’t and/or don’t want to work at that AAP pace. In high school, students can choose general track, honors and/or AP courses. Yes, there are many honors kids who can work at AAP pace in MS, but that’s a separate matter altogether. I have no idea why they chose to organize it this way. In high school the honors/AP course selection tends to more appropriately sort the students into the programming rigor they can handle.

You're flat out wrong here. All middle schools offer regular, honors, and AAP.

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Anonymous wrote:In middle school centers the full-time aap kids are segregated into full time aap only classes
Non center middle school they mix with the kids who choose honors.
It does seem to be mostly the same thing....but with the segregation....

Anyone understand why they are separated in MS? If Honors and AAP are the same, why not mix??

Haven't been able to figure it out yet, same teachers, same Schoology folders, same teaching materials and homework and tests...

It is not the same material or tests at our school.

Our MS has AAP and Honors. Material, homework, tests, etc are the same. Teachers have told me it's the same curriculum, no difference. So.... why segregate?

You’re confused bc they’re lying. It’s not the same material. If it were, they’d combine the classes, it makes no sense otherwise.

Within the same team it is absolutely the same..
At least at our center. Otherwise the teachers would maintain different Schoology folders for aap and honors, but they don't... IT'S THE SAME...just segregated

In AAP the pacing is faster and the curriculum goes more in depth.

Honestly, if they weren't similar the kids would stay segregated in highschool too since they would have been taught soooooo much more

In our center MS there is only honors and AAP offered, so honors is inevitably going to move at a slower pace and cover topics in less depth since there’s really no other track offered for the kids who can’t and/or don’t want to work at that AAP pace. In high school, students can choose general track, honors and/or AP courses. Yes, there are many honors kids who can work at AAP pace in MS, but that’s a separate matter altogether. I have no idea why they chose to organize it this way. In high school the honors/AP course selection tends to more appropriately sort the students into the programming rigor they can handle.

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Anonymous wrote:Your writing style is very unclear.

That is because instead of figuring out which math is best for both other kids, OP is pretending not to “understand” AAP.

I know which Math would be best for both kids - Advanced Math 6.

What I don't understand is why my much better student (a level 2 AAP) wasn't given the choice to take Algebra 1 in 6th grade. Apparently, this was due to scoring 2 points too low on the math SOLs in 5th grade. I don't care about this, but I do find it strange that my current 5th grader (a level 4 AAP, who struggles with math) was invited to take algebra 1 next year, in 6th grade, despite not taking the math SOLs yet this year.

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Our MS has AAP and Honors. Material, homework, tests, etc are the same. Teachers have told me it's the same curriculum, no difference. So.... why segregate?

For the peer group. During orientation I asked, Carson at least says that the AAP and honors classes are the same materials. I talked to my daughter about pulling her from AAP as most of her friends are not in it.

Ultimately we stuck with AAP so that her classes would have students who were more academically inclined. If Honors were just opt in she may have picked that, but the school encourages everyone to take at least one honors course. Throughout elementary school she had constantly had complaints about different students who acted out in class and were disruptive (we did LL4 for reasons) we talked about it and hoped that by being in AAP those students would not be in her core classes.

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Anonymous wrote:How can both your kids be in AAP and you are this clueless?

What would i have to pay attention to? They're in the same classes with the same people every year. They bring home report cards with all 4s. They test very well. They go to school and don't have issues. It wasn't until picking classes for middle school that we noticed some kids were picking honors and some were aap.

You would have known that you could have applied for LIV services for your oldest and have options in MS. You would have known that your son could choose to attend a Center and been in a class with all LIV selected kids. You wouldn’t be asking these questions now because you would have had the information to make informed choices 3 years ago.

That's my point. I wasn't ignoring communication. My husband and I have heard nothing. There was nothing ever mentioned in parent teacher meetings either. I didn't know only certain aap kids stayed in aap in ms. I just assumed they all did since they've been moving through ES together.

But hey, at least I get text messages twice a week from fcps telling me to check my email about skyview. "The boundary tool is back online."

When your child is in level two, you get a letter at the end of the year every year saying that they qualify for level two services the following year. When your child is in level four, there is no communication. They’re just automatically staying in AAP. you never question why one child got a letter and the other didn’t.

How are you so sure I got a letter? We don't get letters from the school. I did check my email history and found 1 email about an aap meeting from 2024 and another in 2026 buried at the bottom of a newsletter. That's it.

I think the confusion was from day 1 when we received an email that our eldest was selected for AAP. We didn't have to do anything. It wasn't just one subject, it was full-time AAP (apparently level 2). There are kids in that class that come in for Math only, but he's not one of them...

The following year we didn't hear from the school, so we asked. They told us to fill out an application, submit work, get a referral etc.. They ended up being accepted into AAP. I guess we figured that because our eldest was simply selected and our youngest had to jump through hurdles, they were the same. I wouldn't have guessed my youngest would be in a higher level 1) because of the process 2) because of their aptitude

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Our MS has AAP and Honors. Material, homework, tests, etc are the same. Teachers have told me it's the same curriculum, no difference. So.... why segregate?

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Anonymous wrote:In middle school centers the full-time aap kids are segregated into full time aap only classes
Non center middle school they mix with the kids who choose honors.
It does seem to be mostly the same thing....but with the segregation....

Anyone understand why they are separated in MS? If Honors and AAP are the same, why not mix??

Haven't been able to figure it out yet, same teachers, same Schoology folders, same teaching materials and homework and tests...

It is not the same material or tests at our school.

Our MS has AAP and Honors. Material, homework, tests, etc are the same. Teachers have told me it's the same curriculum, no difference. So.... why segregate?

You’re confused bc they’re lying. It’s not the same material. If it were, they’d combine the classes, it makes no sense otherwise.

Within the same team it is absolutely the same..
At least at our center. Otherwise the teachers would maintain different Schoology folders for aap and honors, but they don't... IT'S THE SAME...just segregated

In AAP the pacing is faster and the curriculum goes more in depth.

Honestly, if they weren't similar the kids would stay segregated in highschool too since they would have been taught soooooo much more

In our center MS there is only honors and AAP offered, so honors is inevitably going to move at a slower pace and cover topics in less depth since there’s really no other track offered for the kids who can’t and/or don’t want to work at that AAP pace. In high school, students can choose general track, honors and/or AP courses. Yes, there are many honors kids who can work at AAP pace in MS, but that’s a separate matter altogether. I have no idea why they chose to organize it this way. In high school the honors/AP course selection tends to more appropriately sort the students into the programming rigor they can handle.

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Anonymous wrote:In middle school centers the full-time aap kids are segregated into full time aap only classes
Non center middle school they mix with the kids who choose honors.
It does seem to be mostly the same thing....but with the segregation....

Anyone understand why they are separated in MS? If Honors and AAP are the same, why not mix??

Haven't been able to figure it out yet, same teachers, same Schoology folders, same teaching materials and homework and tests...

It is not the same material or tests at our school.

Our MS has AAP and Honors. Material, homework, tests, etc are the same. Teachers have told me it's the same curriculum, no difference. So.... why segregate?

You’re confused bc they’re lying. It’s not the same material. If it were, they’d combine the classes, it makes no sense otherwise.

Within the same team it is absolutely the same..
At least at our center. Otherwise the teachers would maintain different Schoology folders for aap and honors, but they don't... IT'S THE SAME...just segregated

In AAP the pacing is faster and the curriculum goes more in depth.

Honestly, if they weren't similar the kids would stay segregated in highschool too since they would have been taught soooooo much more

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Anonymous wrote:In middle school centers the full-time aap kids are segregated into full time aap only classes
Non center middle school they mix with the kids who choose honors.
It does seem to be mostly the same thing....but with the segregation....

Anyone understand why they are separated in MS? If Honors and AAP are the same, why not mix??

Haven't been able to figure it out yet, same teachers, same Schoology folders, same teaching materials and homework and tests...

It is not the same material or tests at our school.

Our MS has AAP and Honors. Material, homework, tests, etc are the same. Teachers have told me it's the same curriculum, no difference. So.... why segregate?

You’re confused bc they’re lying. It’s not the same material. If it were, they’d combine the classes, it makes no sense otherwise.

Within the same team it is absolutely the same..
At least at our center. Otherwise the teachers would maintain different Schoology folders for aap and honors, but they don't... IT'S THE SAME...just segregated

In AAP the pacing is faster and the curriculum goes more in depth.