Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Is there a bigger collection of broke whiners and social outcasts than Reddit? How does anyone waste time on that toxic site anymore.

“End Tipping” has plenty of gainfully employed cheapskates. They don’t tip because they’re broke, but because they are CHEAP! I get that tipping is out of control, but if you’re not tipping at a sit down restaurant in the U.S. you are a jerk. The exception here being restaurants that add a service fee.

Most meals are $20-40 or more. The owners can afford to pay minimum wage and are the cheapest.

If there is a service fee, I'm not tipping.

Otherwise its 15-20% depending on the service.

It’s not always owners being cheap. This is the way things have worked in restaurants- at least in the U.S., for years.

I agree with your last two points.

If you eat at a sit down restaurant and there is no service charge and you don’t tip, you’re a jerk.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Is there a bigger collection of broke whiners and social outcasts than Reddit? How does anyone waste time on that toxic site anymore.

“End Tipping” has plenty of gainfully employed cheapskates. They don’t tip because they’re broke, but because they are CHEAP! I get that tipping is out of control, but if you’re not tipping at a sit down restaurant in the U.S. you are a jerk. The exception here being restaurants that add a service fee.

Most meals are $20-40 or more. The owners can afford to pay minimum wage and are the cheapest.

If there is a service fee, I'm not tipping.

Otherwise its 15-20% depending on the service.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:25% is insane, OP.

It's the new normal. 20% is the new 15%, so minimum, and 25% is the new 20%, so for good service

What does “great service” even mean? I order my meal and a drink and they bring it. Same with bill. I’m not sure how one does that in a superb manner beyond not taking ages.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I waited tables back in the 90s and 20% was considered the norm for good service, not 15%. I don’t mind tipping, I’ve also lived in places where tipping isn’t expected but I don’t mind the American system, having been a tipped employee myself.

And to the poster whose kids work in restaurants, are they supporting themselves or themselves and a family? If not, then they shouldn’t chime in on what people who need to pay actual bills should be tipped.

15% has always been the norm, 20% for exceptional service.

It's regional. 15% in the South (DMV), or even less, may be the norm but in the NE 20% has always been standard for my life and I am not...young.

I grew up in Maryland (born 1979) and 15% was standard anywhere, and we traveled across the country as a family. We were comfortably off. I do remember in the very late 1990s people started talking and grumbling about 20%. But it didn't become standard till probably around 2005.

Maybe it was different in Manhattan. I'm sure it's always different in NYC.

I don’t tip anything outside sit down service and hair cuts. Coffee shops, bakeries, takeaway, anything involving self service gets 0%.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Is there a bigger collection of broke whiners and social outcasts than Reddit? How does anyone waste time on that toxic site anymore.

Maybe it’s the subreddits I frequent but I find commenters to be considerably more reasonable and less hateful than on this site. I come here for the snark!

It's entirely this. Reddit is just a platform and if you just stick to all or popular, yes it's toxic like everywhere else on the Internet. Follow a good collection of well moderated or smaller subreddits and it's completely different.

Anonymous wrote:Is there a bigger collection of broke whiners and social outcasts than Reddit? How does anyone waste time on that toxic site anymore.

“End Tipping” has plenty of gainfully employed cheapskates. They don’t tip because they’re broke, but because they are CHEAP! I get that tipping is out of control, but if you’re not tipping at a sit down restaurant in the U.S. you are a jerk. The exception here being restaurants that add a service fee.

Anonymous wrote:Is there a bigger collection of broke whiners and social outcasts than Reddit? How does anyone waste time on that toxic site anymore.

How is checking out Reddit any different than hanging out here, on DCUM?

Anonymous wrote:Is there a bigger collection of broke whiners and social outcasts than Reddit? How does anyone waste time on that toxic site anymore.

Maybe it’s the subreddits I frequent but I find commenters to be considerably more reasonable and less hateful than on this site. I come here for the snark!

Is there a bigger collection of broke whiners and social outcasts than Reddit? How does anyone waste time on that toxic site anymore.

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Anonymous wrote:
For me it's not this, but more the whole expense of it (including the tips) for what has become, over and over, a disappointing experience.

Only suckers are using personal cards on dining out. You have to be a dunce to blow your post-tax wages on $40+ per plate Sysco slop. Restaurants are kept afloat by spendthrifts swiping company cards. These people don't quibble about a silly 15 or 25% tip because it ain't their money.

Corporate catering is the big unseen cash cow for restaurants. Anyone using wages to dine out regularly is an idiot.

if 20% is expected to have restaurants cancel tipping and up the price 20%. It's a scam, they want to advertise cheap menus and prices by hiding the 20%. so just up and end tipping

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I waited tables back in the 90s and 20% was considered the norm for good service, not 15%. I don’t mind tipping, I’ve also lived in places where tipping isn’t expected but I don’t mind the American system, having been a tipped employee myself.

And to the poster whose kids work in restaurants, are they supporting themselves or themselves and a family? If not, then they shouldn’t chime in on what people who need to pay actual bills should be tipped.

15% has always been the norm, 20% for exceptional service.

It's regional. 15% in the South (DMV), or even less, may be the norm but in the NE 20% has always been standard for my life and I am not...young.

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Anonymous wrote:25% is insane, OP.

It's the tell in that post that it's a troll...

Totally. And then claiming that prices would go up. They ready are up but in a sneaky way.

Anonymous wrote:I waited tables back in the 90s and 20% was considered the norm for good service, not 15%. I don’t mind tipping, I’ve also lived in places where tipping isn’t expected but I don’t mind the American system, having been a tipped employee myself.

And to the poster whose kids work in restaurants, are they supporting themselves or themselves and a family? If not, then they shouldn’t chime in on what people who need to pay actual bills should be tipped.

In the 90s, 15% was standard and 18 to 20% was for exceptional service. Google it.

Anonymous wrote:I waited tables back in the 90s and 20% was considered the norm for good service, not 15%. I don’t mind tipping, I’ve also lived in places where tipping isn’t expected but I don’t mind the American system, having been a tipped employee myself.

And to the poster whose kids work in restaurants, are they supporting themselves or themselves and a family? If not, then they shouldn’t chime in on what people who need to pay actual bills should be tipped.

15% has always been the norm, 20% for exceptional service.