Anonymous wrote:I don’t have a dog in this fight. I do think middle class Americans hate this, because I don’t think middle class Americans want to be middle class. I think they want to be elite. And I think they want the elite to have the same middle class values they have—work hard, be a good person, be rewarded for it.

But the elite have their own values.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m OP. My siblings and I went to H,Y, and S with no hooks (back when it was easier, of course). Two of us became lemmings in Big Law and at MBB (not a complaint - we do just fine), while the other became an entrepreneur, selling their first company in their 20s for a couple hundred million and leveling up thereafter. This sib donates a ton to their alma mater and I can’t imagine my nephew not getting in if he wants, but here’s the thing - he’s academically qualified, he’ll occupy just one seat, and my sib has supported many thousands of other students with their philanthropy. Why would anyone resent this?

I don't think people are mad. If anything, there will be less people care about the college games.

Anonymous wrote:I don’t have a dog in this fight. I do think middle class Americans hate this, because I don’t think middle class Americans want to be middle class. I think they want to be elite. And I think they want the elite to have the same middle class values they have—work hard, be a good person, be rewarded for it.

But the elite have their own values.

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Anonymous wrote:I handle that better than dumb athletes at T10/20/Ivies.

Those athletes bring in more money for the school than your "brilliant" Larlo with a 4.0 GPA and 1500+SAT. Look at all the schools that most kids are flocking to these days.

Women’s softball ? Fencing? Cross country? And at Ivies. We are talking Ohio State football or Duke basketball. Sports at T10s/Ivies aren’t bringing in $. Big donors are though.

Yes, even those sports. They may not bring in tons of money but they bring in other students.
What about the kids who do have the ivy calibre stats but want to play their sport? You don't offer them, they go elsewhere. These colleges are competing with one another. Why do you think so many D3 schools give scholarships to athletes? Because they attract students who want to play their sport even if they're not the best of the best. Having those students attract other students to the school.

Anonymous wrote:Fencing brings in non-fencing students who want to be fans?

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Anonymous wrote:I handle that better than dumb athletes at T10/20/Ivies.

Those athletes bring in more money for the school than your "brilliant" Larlo with a 4.0 GPA and 1500+SAT. Look at all the schools that most kids are flocking to these days.

Women’s softball ? Fencing? Cross country? And at Ivies. We are talking Ohio State football or Duke basketball. Sports at T10s/Ivies aren’t bringing in $. Big donors are though.

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Anonymous wrote:I handle that better than dumb athletes at T10/20/Ivies.

Those athletes bring in more money for the school than your "brilliant" Larlo with a 4.0 GPA and 1500+SAT. Look at all the schools that most kids are flocking to these days.

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Anonymous wrote:I handle that better than dumb athletes at T10/20/Ivies.

Those dumb athletes are both smarter and more successful than your children. Was just hanging out with some Cal and Stanford volleyball players this morning. They would eat your kids as snacks.

Nope. Majority of athletes at top
Schools are told do not major in science, math, engineering, econ. The courses are graded on a curve such that the median is assigned a B or B+ for intro courses. Some athletes can hack it trying to be average compared to the non athletes who got in on merit. Most cannot. They are rightly pushed to grab an easier major!

Your assumptions might hold for power 4 schools and non selective mid majors but not at all for Ivies, Pat League, NESCAC, UAA, etc. You’re rationalizing without any actual knowledge.

Anonymous wrote:I handle that better than dumb athletes at T10/20/Ivies.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m OP. My siblings and I went to H,Y, and S with no hooks (back when it was easier, of course). Two of us became lemmings in Big Law and at MBB (not a complaint - we do just fine), while the other became an entrepreneur, selling their first company in their 20s for a couple hundred million and leveling up thereafter. This sib donates a ton to their alma mater and I can’t imagine my nephew not getting in if he wants, but here’s the thing - he’s academically qualified, he’ll occupy just one seat, and my sib has supported many thousands of other students with their philanthropy. Why would anyone resent this?

This is your insecurity, OP; Sounds like you and your sib already won the lottery. If the world were just, your sib wouldn’t have to donate so Larlo can “get in.”

I suspect her “leveling up” bought Larlo a cushy life and private schooling from pre-k to 12th, which would of course make him “academically qualified.” If not, he’s either a moron or an over entitled brat. But hey, a little donation here and there helps to sweeten the deal, amirite? As we know, in this country “academically qualified” is a function of wealth - if not, the janitor’s kids would be running intellectual circles around you…

Since this is how the world works, I suspect if we could all donate to guarantee junior gets in, we would. But to your point “back when it was easier” the H,Y, and S schools will eventually catch on and just do what they always do - jack up the price even higher so they will always be out of reach for commoners.

You can rest easy, OP - most people are too busy keeping their heads above water, to side-eye you over buying your way into admission.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m OP. My siblings and I went to H,Y, and S with no hooks (back when it was easier, of course). Two of us became lemmings in Big Law and at MBB (not a complaint - we do just fine), while the other became an entrepreneur, selling their first company in their 20s for a couple hundred million and leveling up thereafter. This sib donates a ton to their alma mater and I can’t imagine my nephew not getting in if he wants, but here’s the thing - he’s academically qualified, he’ll occupy just one seat, and my sib has supported many thousands of other students with their philanthropy. Why would anyone resent this?

If the nephew is truly qualified, he doesn’t need his dad’s money to buy access.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m OP. My siblings and I went to H,Y, and S with no hooks (back when it was easier, of course). Two of us became lemmings in Big Law and at MBB (not a complaint - we do just fine), while the other became an entrepreneur, selling their first company in their 20s for a couple hundred million and leveling up thereafter. This sib donates a ton to their alma mater and I can’t imagine my nephew not getting in if he wants, but here’s the thing - he’s academically qualified, he’ll occupy just one seat, and my sib has supported many thousands of other students with their philanthropy. Why would anyone resent this?

If the nephew is truly qualified, he doesn’t need his dad’s money to buy access.