Anonymous wrote:Honestly it makes me happy when I have meaningful positive interactions with people — especially when these interactions are with people who are quite different from me.

I think it taps into the whole Martin Buber “I and Thou” concept — that even small interactions with strangers can be sacred and life-affirming if we let them be. It is the opposite of algorithmically driven discourse.

I’m an independent, btw, non-MAGA

OH BS there are no "independents" at this point in time

Either you believe in THE CONTSTITUTION or you don't. There is no inbetween!

We are at a crossroads and a Christian Nationalist MORON PEDOPHILE FELON with his sychophants are destroying this country. And you still claim to be an "independent"

No you are MAGA.

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Anonymous wrote:Lower taxes, better regulated borders, disincentives for the able-bodied who choose not to work or who choose to be under-employed, social services limited to those whose situations are not of their own making, allocation of government benefits without regard to recipient immutable characteristics like race, gender, or ethnicity; national right-to-work legislation, and a greatly simplified tax code which neither incentivizes nor punishes personal or corporate behavior favored or disfavored by the government to achieve political objectives.

There are a number of items here that most Americans would agree with. But apart from better control of the southern border, Trump and the GOP is not addressing any of these items or even trying to. And surely progress on any would require compromise, no? So why the constant vilification of the Democratic Party?

Because Democrats used to be the party of the US worker but they have abandoned them.

we want are party back from the globalists

BS clearly you have not read PROJECT 2025 There is not one thing in their for "US Workers" There is high unemployment, pennies for salaries, no benefits, no injury protection etc. You know who does support that DEMOCRATS FOOL

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Anonymous wrote:Voter ID, strong borders and deportation of border crashers. Immigration completely controlled by who will contribute and not drain resources.

I'm open to uncontrolled borders if all social spending is eliminated in the constitution. When the borders were open in the distant past people sank or swam with zero income redistribution, free hospital services or school. Charity was 100 percent private.

Dear MAGA dumb-f**k, here's a pro-tip: a rising tide lifts all boats.

No, it's a zero-sum system. Ds take from those who have, to give to those who don't have, often without rhyme or reason apart from a fundamentally Communist notion that nobody should have any more than anyone else, without regard to merit, effort, or initiative.

Money taken from those who have it sinks them; it doesn't cause them to rise along with those standing there with their hands out.

No.

If billionaires paid their fair share of taxes, they wouldn’t miss that money in the slightest. It’s not like they’re using it for anything worthwhile. Another Monet for their seventeenth villa in Italy? A yacht for their yacht? Quack immortality treatments? A few Congresspeople here and there? After a certain point, it’s pure excess. And as we’re all seeing with the release of the Epstein files, there is a level of wealth at which there is no accountability. It’s looking more and more like extreme wealth creates monsters. That alone should be enough to tax centibillionaires out of existence.

And if you don’t think billionaires owe anything to anyone, there is the fact that they made their billions in the first place by leveraging public infrastructure paid for by we the people.

Honestly it makes me happy when I have meaningful positive interactions with people — especially when these interactions are with people who are quite different from me.

I think it taps into the whole Martin Buber “I and Thou” concept — that even small interactions with strangers can be sacred and life-affirming if we let them be. It is the opposite of algorithmically driven discourse.

I’m an independent, btw, non-MAGA

Anonymous wrote:This thread quickly devolved into the usual talking points — mostly what makes everyone unhappy about the other side.

But happiness: that’s a different beast entirely. It’s not “the absence of unhappiness.” It’s qualitatively different. Remember happiness?

What would make people — MAGA, sure, but anyone! — actually happy?

It would make me happy if we used the immense wealth of the country to help the people that live in it, not to fund mega yachts for the billionaire leech class.

If you want happiness, do your best emulate the happiest people.

https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/happiest-countries-in-the-world

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Anonymous wrote:Voter ID, strong borders and deportation of border crashers. Immigration completely controlled by who will contribute and not drain resources.

I'm open to uncontrolled borders if all social spending is eliminated in the constitution. When the borders were open in the distant past people sank or swam with zero income redistribution, free hospital services or school. Charity was 100 percent private.

So you’d be happy if you could step over dying poor people begging for mercy at the hospital door while on your way to get your TrumpOzwmpic?

DP. That's not how it works. There should be and have in place welfare programs that should go to people in need. Its the determination of who is using that or who should, that has become a problem with uncontrolled immigration. For instance, I know of people who emigrated from another country in late years who used family immigration loopholes like procuring Greencards then going to claim welfare from medicaid, medicare, food stamps, etc. These are not poor people, they could be living in their own country, but chose to come here using the loopholes and then sucking from the systems. They feel very smart about it. There are illegals using such things too. This is where people have a problem.

So your problem is not with illegal immigrants as much as anyone exploiting existing LEGAL loopholes? Do you have the same sort of ire for billionaires and their corporations paying little to nothing in taxes by exploiting tax loopholes? Then why do we not hear a damn thing about taxing the rich, or making sure that large corporations pay their fair share from folks like you, who instead focus on poor people trying to get by with their minimum wage (or lesser) jobs that no one in this country even wants to do?

umm...because the billionaires did something in this country to make those billions instead of sucking off from welfare which these immigrants are coming here to do at late age using loopholes. They never spent a day on their life working here or paying into the system, but come here close to retirement age to then use medicaid, medicare, and food stamps. They know these loopholes exists and thats exactly why they come and use it, same way the asylum loophole and birthright loopholes are used. We should close all these and block all those folks from coming, which is happening now. If only for a short period we are able to correct this bleeding which liberals soon as they get power will do all over again.

You poor, dumb, summer child.

You drank Reagan’s Koolaid , didn’t you

They. Want. To. Be Hear me out. Persecuted.

They really want it. That’s a positive way of exhibiting moral courage. I agree it *would* be. But they don’t need things to get all bad for it to happen. They’re playing with fire (Trump) in order to feel this way

OP, how many threads do you start a week?

Anonymous wrote:They don’t want “happy.” They want everyone miserable like they are.

When they’ve killed us, then each other, then all things that move, then the voices in their heads. Then, once they’re in Hell, getting to shake Satan’s hand.

Anonymous wrote:They don’t want “happy.” They want everyone miserable like they are.

lol, I don’t think liberals need any help being miserable

I am telling the truth - I am happy when I see people treated humanely and no one is being discriminated against. I’m a Dem, obviously.

This thread quickly devolved into the usual talking points — mostly what makes everyone unhappy about the other side.

But happiness: that’s a different beast entirely. It’s not “the absence of unhappiness.” It’s qualitatively different. Remember happiness?

What would make people — MAGA, sure, but anyone! — actually happy?

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Anonymous wrote:Voter ID, strong borders and deportation of border crashers. Immigration completely controlled by who will contribute and not drain resources.

I'm open to uncontrolled borders if all social spending is eliminated in the constitution. When the borders were open in the distant past people sank or swam with zero income redistribution, free hospital services or school. Charity was 100 percent private.

So you’d be happy if you could step over dying poor people begging for mercy at the hospital door while on your way to get your TrumpOzwmpic?

DP. That's not how it works. There should be and have in place welfare programs that should go to people in need. Its the determination of who is using that or who should, that has become a problem with uncontrolled immigration. For instance, I know of people who emigrated from another country in late years who used family immigration loopholes like procuring Greencards then going to claim welfare from medicaid, medicare, food stamps, etc. These are not poor people, they could be living in their own country, but chose to come here using the loopholes and then sucking from the systems. They feel very smart about it. There are illegals using such things too. This is where people have a problem.

So your problem is not with illegal immigrants as much as anyone exploiting existing LEGAL loopholes? Do you have the same sort of ire for billionaires and their corporations paying little to nothing in taxes by exploiting tax loopholes? Then why do we not hear a damn thing about taxing the rich, or making sure that large corporations pay their fair share from folks like you, who instead focus on poor people trying to get by with their minimum wage (or lesser) jobs that no one in this country even wants to do?

umm...because the billionaires did something in this country to make those billions instead of sucking off from welfare which these immigrants are coming here to do at late age using loopholes. They never spent a day on their life working here or paying into the system, but come here close to retirement age to then use medicaid, medicare, and food stamps. They know these loopholes exists and thats exactly why they come and use it, same way the asylum loophole and birthright loopholes are used. We should close all these and block all those folks from coming, which is happening now. If only for a short period we are able to correct this bleeding which liberals soon as they get power will do all over again.

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MAGA and QANON were against the international elite pedo ring when they were hoping to bring down Democrats, but now they're fully supporting the international elite pedo ring since it appears the main perps include Trump and his circle.

I really don't think you need to look beyond that symbol of their moral depravity and relativism.

They would rather abdicate all virtuous principles and suffer economic loss if it means their perceived opponents suffer more than they do. That's what they truly want. Nihilism.

They want a "thank you for your devotion" from Trump in the form of a six figure DOGE/tariff check-- a check that only goes to deserving MAGAs.

But that check will never, ever, ever arrive.

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Anonymous wrote:Voter ID, strong borders and deportation of border crashers. Immigration completely controlled by who will contribute and not drain resources.

I'm open to uncontrolled borders if all social spending is eliminated in the constitution. When the borders were open in the distant past people sank or swam with zero income redistribution, free hospital services or school. Charity was 100 percent private.

What are your feelings on racism and pedophilia.....just curious.

PP has a serious point, but you can’t answer it with any substance so you come back with the irrelevant name calling, pathetic as usual.

BTW, why don’t you ask Bill Clinton, what was it 17 White House Epstein visits ? What was going on there.

Yes MAGA go ahead and ask him. No one cares about Clinton, if he’s a pedophile lock him up. No one is in a Clinton cult. Despite what your sick brain tells you, NO ONE would cry if Clinton ends up in jail for crimes he committed.