Anonymous
01/10/2026 15:26
Subject: European colleges
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:This is difference we saw with our kids…one graduated from an avg well known but not elite flagship state U. (Still a t100) The other graduated from IE in Madrid….The state U kid had opportunities for jobs…but they were all local/regional smaller companies with zero chance to branch out to a bigger well known position in big US cities…. My IE kid had a world of opportunities in front of him. Interned in Switzerland and then Paris and had 3 job offers in 3 different countries and took the one back in the US. He is in NYC now.
Now you’re just making stuff up…
Ok. Go ahead and compare OU to IE…..
Are you talking about University of Oklahoma? Not top 100. I’m guessing there’s exactly zero overlap between high school students considering Oklahoma vs University of Madrid. Cost of attendance for in state is on Oklahoma side. Same if you’re looking into petroleum engineering where Oklahoma is #4.
You’re just making up stuff without even doing a basic research on the comparison.
Anonymous
01/10/2026 14:20
Subject: European colleges
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:This is difference we saw with our kids…one graduated from an avg well known but not elite flagship state U. (Still a t100) The other graduated from IE in Madrid….The state U kid had opportunities for jobs…but they were all local/regional smaller companies with zero chance to branch out to a bigger well known position in big US cities…. My IE kid had a world of opportunities in front of him. Interned in Switzerland and then Paris and had 3 job offers in 3 different countries and took the one back in the US. He is in NYC now.
Now you’re just making stuff up…
Ok. Go ahead and compare OU to IE…..
Anonymous
01/10/2026 13:36
Subject: European colleges
I think someone may have pointe this out, but cost does not always pair w/ having citizenship. In many cases, it is connected to local residency. My UK citizen kids would have to pay international rates if they attended UK schools
Anonymous
01/10/2026 13:09
Subject: European colleges
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:This is difference we saw with our kids…one graduated from an avg well known but not elite flagship state U. (Still a t100) The other graduated from IE in Madrid….The state U kid had opportunities for jobs…but they were all local/regional smaller companies with zero chance to branch out to a bigger well known position in big US cities…. My IE kid had a world of opportunities in front of him. Interned in Switzerland and then Paris and had 3 job offers in 3 different countries and took the one back in the US. He is in NYC now.
Now you’re just making stuff up…
+1
On DCUM, when people give anecdotes to support a narrative, I just assume they lie.
Anonymous
01/10/2026 12:55
Subject: European colleges
Anonymous wrote:This is difference we saw with our kids…one graduated from an avg well known but not elite flagship state U. (Still a t100) The other graduated from IE in Madrid….The state U kid had opportunities for jobs…but they were all local/regional smaller companies with zero chance to branch out to a bigger well known position in big US cities…. My IE kid had a world of opportunities in front of him. Interned in Switzerland and then Paris and had 3 job offers in 3 different countries and took the one back in the US. He is in NYC now.
Now you’re just making stuff up…
Anonymous
01/10/2026 10:38
Subject: European colleges
This is difference we saw with our kids…one graduated from an avg well known but not elite flagship state U. (Still a t100) The other graduated from IE in Madrid….The state U kid had opportunities for jobs…but they were all local/regional smaller companies with zero chance to branch out to a bigger well known position in big US cities…. My IE kid had a world of opportunities in front of him. Interned in Switzerland and then Paris and had 3 job offers in 3 different countries and took the one back in the US. He is in NYC now.
Anonymous
01/10/2026 09:27
Subject: European colleges
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:What’s the purpose of enrolling to a European school? Save money on tuition, international exposure?
I wouldn’t do it for the lower tuition alone. If [/b]you plan on returning to US after graduation stick to a school that is well known here. Also the economy, youth employment, internship opportunities are much better in US. There’s a reason the net flux of students is from Europe to US.
For international exposure you can do one semester abroad instead.
True if DC can get into HSY. But a GMU or Directional State U degree is not more marketable than a rando EU university degree.
Top 100 US universities are definitely more marketable in US than random EU universities. We’re talking Tulane, UCs, Rochester etc. nobody here knows or cares about Malmo University.
I’d you don’t plan to return to US you’ll be graduating in a low growth economy with high youth unemployment, but 200k less in debt. Do it at your own risk, I don’t think it’s worth it. Salaries in US, internships and job opportunities more than make up for the difference.
Tulane, yes, Rochester yes.
But do you really think that a North Central Iowa University degree is any more marketable than a Central Madrid University degree?
People who graduate from [b]directional state universities (or the private equivalent) get jobs in spite of their degrees.
What directional state universities are you talking about in Top 100? Maybe University of Southern Florida or University of Central Florida. They are decent colleges, not sure why you look down on them. Curious to see why you think a US kid should choose a European university over them. It’s a different demography anyways, and we’re not talking about kids choosing between them and Oxford/Cambridge.
An important point is that kids who attend directional state universities are often working for local employers that recruit at such directional schools.
Unless your kid is an EU citizen, it seems strange to attend a no name European college and then have to look for a job in the US.
Also keep in mind…directional US schools are usually very cheap, so there won’t be any real $$$ savings from attending a no name European college.
Anonymous
01/10/2026 02:38
Subject: European colleges
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:What’s the purpose of enrolling to a European school? Save money on tuition, international exposure?
I wouldn’t do it for the lower tuition alone. If [/b]you plan on returning to US after graduation stick to a school that is well known here. Also the economy, youth employment, internship opportunities are much better in US. There’s a reason the net flux of students is from Europe to US.
For international exposure you can do one semester abroad instead.
True if DC can get into HSY. But a GMU or Directional State U degree is not more marketable than a rando EU university degree.
Top 100 US universities are definitely more marketable in US than random EU universities. We’re talking Tulane, UCs, Rochester etc. nobody here knows or cares about Malmo University.
I’d you don’t plan to return to US you’ll be graduating in a low growth economy with high youth unemployment, but 200k less in debt. Do it at your own risk, I don’t think it’s worth it. Salaries in US, internships and job opportunities more than make up for the difference.
Tulane, yes, Rochester yes.
But do you really think that a North Central Iowa University degree is any more marketable than a Central Madrid University degree?
People who graduate from [b]directional state universities (or the private equivalent) get jobs in spite of their degrees.
What directional state universities are you talking about in Top 100? Maybe University of Southern Florida or University of Central Florida. They are decent colleges, not sure why you look down on them. Curious to see why you think a US kid should choose a European university over them. It’s a different demography anyways, and we’re not talking about kids choosing between them and Oxford/Cambridge.
Anonymous
01/10/2026 01:05
Subject: European colleges
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:What’s the purpose of enrolling to a European school? Save money on tuition, international exposure?
I wouldn’t do it for the lower tuition alone. If you plan on returning to US after graduation stick to a school that is well known here. Also the economy, youth employment, internship opportunities are much better in US. There’s a reason the net flux of students is from Europe to US.
For international exposure you can do one semester abroad instead.
True if DC can get into HSY. But a GMU or Directional State U degree is not more marketable than a rando EU university degree.
Top 100 US universities are definitely more marketable in US than random EU universities. We’re talking Tulane, UCs, Rochester etc. nobody here knows or cares about Malmo University.
I’d you don’t plan to return to US you’ll be graduating in a low growth economy with high youth unemployment, but 200k less in debt. Do it at your own risk, I don’t think it’s worth it. Salaries in US, internships and job opportunities more than make up for the difference.
Tulane, yes, Rochester yes.
But do you really think that a North Central Iowa University degree is any more marketable than a Central Madrid University degree?
People who graduate from directional state universities (or the private equivalent) get jobs in spite of their degrees.
North Central Iowa University[b] does not exist, but I’d say University of Iowa which is outside of top 100 has more name recognition than Central Madrid University. It also has quite good programs in nursing and engineering and at $12k/year tuition in state is likely a better financial deal too.
Sounds like you didn’t really do your homework.
And, you, apparently are a very literal person. Clearly, the PP was being sarcastic
Anonymous
01/10/2026 00:38
Subject: European colleges
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:What’s the purpose of enrolling to a European school? Save money on tuition, international exposure?
I wouldn’t do it for the lower tuition alone. If [/b]you plan on returning to US after graduation stick to a school that is well known here. [b]Also the economy, youth employment, internship opportunities are much better in US. There’s a reason the net flux of students is from Europe to US.
For international exposure you can do one semester abroad instead.
True if DC can get into HSY. But a GMU or Directional State U degree is not more marketable than a rando EU university degree.
Top 100 US universities are definitely more marketable in US than random EU universities. We’re talking Tulane, UCs, Rochester etc. nobody here knows or cares about Malmo University.
I’d you don’t plan to return to US you’ll be graduating in a low growth economy with high youth unemployment, but 200k less in debt. Do it at your own risk, I don’t think it’s worth it. Salaries in US, internships and job opportunities more than make up for the difference.
Tulane, yes, Rochester yes.
But do you really think that a North Central Iowa University degree is any more marketable than a Central Madrid University degree?
People who graduate from directional state universities (or the private equivalent) get jobs in spite of their degrees.
North Central Iowa University does not exist, but I’d say University of Iowa which is outside of top 100 has more name recognition than Central Madrid University. It also has quite good programs in nursing and engineering and at $12k/year tuition in state is likely a better financial deal too.
Sounds like you didn’t really do your homework.
Anonymous
01/10/2026 00:29
Subject: Re:European colleges
Not Europe, but my oldest is at uni in the UK. A neighbor’s kid is in Spain for university. Both love it.
Anonymous
01/09/2026 23:59
Subject: European colleges
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:What’s the purpose of enrolling to a European school? Save money on tuition, international exposure?
I wouldn’t do it for the lower tuition alone. If [/b]you plan on returning to US after graduation stick to a school that is well known here. [b]Also the economy, youth employment, internship opportunities are much better in US. There’s a reason the net flux of students is from Europe to US.
For international exposure you can do one semester abroad instead.
True if DC can get into HSY. But a GMU or Directional State U degree is not more marketable than a rando EU university degree.
Top 100 US universities are definitely more marketable in US than random EU universities. We’re talking Tulane, UCs, Rochester etc. nobody here knows or cares about Malmo University.
I’d you don’t plan to return to US you’ll be graduating in a low growth economy with high youth unemployment, but 200k less in debt. Do it at your own risk, I don’t think it’s worth it. Salaries in US, internships and job opportunities more than make up for the difference.
Tulane, yes, Rochester yes.
But do you really think that a North Central Iowa University degree is any more marketable than a Central Madrid University degree?
People who graduate from directional state universities (or the private equivalent) get jobs in spite of their degrees.
Anonymous
01/09/2026 23:53
Subject: European colleges
Anonymous wrote:Some Americans we know with EU citizenship have gone to the Netherlands like Maastricht or Utrecht.
The problem with Dutch universities is the housing shortage.
Right now, you can only send a student to a Dutch school if it guarantees access to housing, you can buy an apartment or condo there, or you know people there who will house your kid. Maybe you can be sure of finding housing if you can pay more than 3,000 euros per month rent, but the problem there is dealing with Dutch landlords’ local income rules.
So, the more practical alternative to Dutch schools is English-language programs in Belgium.
Anonymous
01/09/2026 18:06
Subject: European colleges
Anonymous wrote:Kid graduated from Exeter….(sure not a random as PP said) and yet, got an amazing internship his last year in the US and is now fully employed at an Investment group in Chicago…..and yes….$150k extra in his pocket vs the US T75 private schools no merit he got accepted too….
Exeter is a good uni. US folks from good UK unis, yes even beyond Oxbridge, have no trouble finding good jobs back in the USA.
Anonymous
01/09/2026 16:41
Subject: European colleges
Kid graduated from Exeter….(sure not a random as PP said) and yet, got an amazing internship his last year in the US and is now fully employed at an Investment group in Chicago…..and yes….$150k extra in his pocket vs the US T75 private schools no merit he got accepted too….