Anonymous wrote:Colleges that used to get 8,000 applications max in the days I was applying are now getting well over 50,000. ED is one way to mitigate this randomness for those who know what they want and are not just blanketing all selective schools with applications just for the heck of it. I can’t imagine how even more random college admissions will become if they eliminate ED, or if everyone fails to honor ED commitments. At the very least if ED is eliminated we need some restriction on how many colleges students can apply to.

100 percent correct

How funny this made the news. Tulane must be embarrassed.

- at our competitive private nyc high school, if you're admitted to HYP in SCEA round, it's considered bad form to apply elsewhere. there's a gentleman's agreement that you could be taking someone else's seat and for what? is it allowed, yes. will the network you've built over 4 or 12 years remember? yes.

- at the same time, I think college admissions is bullshit in about a hundred different ways and punishing the school is the least effective way to do this. what's I'd do, if I were Tulane, stop all school visits for like 10 years. and in the portal, post a note stating something like, Tulane University is aware of the times a Colorado Academy Early Decision Admit backed out of the agreement signed with Tulane. As this wasn't a single incident, Tulane can only assume the seriousness is not being communicated .. etc etc". That would make Colorado parents take this up within their own community. Because it sure sounds like Tulane doesn't like this school.

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Anonymous wrote:I can hold two thoughts in my head at once. I can recognize that people should honor their ED commitments, and I can recognize that colleges are the ones who gain the most by filling a significant % of the class through ED. The vast majority of students do not benefit from this system.

Ok. Breaking the rules of the ED application has consequences. Live with the consequences of your behavior.

+1 It's terrible the way so many people today try to rationalize dishonesty.

Anonymous wrote:I can hold two thoughts in my head at once. I can recognize that people should honor their ED commitments, and I can recognize that colleges are the ones who gain the most by filling a significant % of the class through ED. The vast majority of students do not benefit from this system.

My student benefited. Like many she had an application appropriate for a top 10-20 school but none of the hooks, not a legacy. She applied ED to a school that isn’t known for valuing legacy, got in, and got almost exactly as much financial aid (a lot) as the estimate suggested. The system worked for her.

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Anonymous wrote:The counselor, student, and parents signed a binding agreement.

Not legally binding

Is there something legally binding saying Tulane must allow ED from all schools?

Absolutely not. They’re a private school. And they’re not discriminating based on a protected class. No student from Colorado Academy or the other three unnamed high schools is banned from applying there through regular decision.

Doesn’t Tulane also have an EA round the students could use to apply early?

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Anonymous wrote:Those schools should switch to common app. Common app doesn’t allow more than one ED.

I love ED and hope it lasts at least long enough for my second child! It’s a great option for kids not wanting to play the field. DD had a very realistic first choice and wanted an answer as soon as possible. It was great.

Oh, Common App is very easy to get around. You apply apply EA via the Common App and then just switch your "Decision Round" to ED in the school's portal. As you long as you can get a school counselor to sign the form, there is zero limit to the number of schools you can apply ED to.

Well that’s on the counselor then. I highly doubt a public school counselor such as our would allow it. Regardless, we used ED as intended and it worked beautifully for us. I’m so tired of upper middle class whiners claiming that ED won’t let them shop merit aid. Boo-effing-hoo. Kids with true need do fine in ED. Use the NPC and apply places you can afford. You’ll live.

Oh you’re a gem.

Sorry you spent too much on private HS and now can’t afford the private college you want.

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Anonymous wrote:There are independent college counselors actively advising kids not to pull EA applications if accepted ED. They specifically tell the families that your school college counselor will not be able to see whether you pull the apps. If you get into a better school in EA, claim you had a change in circumstances (divorce, loss of job, ill parent need to be closer to home) and pull out of ED. This is 100% happening. IYKYK

Why would college counselors send transcripts and other documents from the HS to any other college then the ED choice?

Because November 1 is also the EA deadline and it’s perfectly acceptable to apply ED to one schools and EA (or early rolling) to a bunch of others. Counselors sending transcripts to EA/rolling schools is the system working as intended.

You can also apply RD in November/December before your ED decision comes out. The college counselors send everything when you apply. This isn’t that hard to figure out.

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Anonymous wrote:The counselor, student, and parents signed a binding agreement.

Not legally binding

Is there something legally binding saying Tulane must allow ED from all schools?

Absolutely not. They’re a private school. And they’re not discriminating based on a protected class. No student from Colorado Academy or the other three unnamed high schools is banned from applying there through regular decision.

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Anonymous wrote:The counselor, student, and parents signed a binding agreement.

Not legally binding

Is there something legally binding saying Tulane must allow ED from all schools?

Colleges that used to get 8,000 applications max in the days I was applying are now getting well over 50,000. ED is one way to mitigate this randomness for those who know what they want and are not just blanketing all selective schools with applications just for the heck of it. I can’t imagine how even more random college admissions will become if they eliminate ED, or if everyone fails to honor ED commitments. At the very least if ED is eliminated we need some restriction on how many colleges students can apply to.

Anonymous wrote:I’m wondering about Colorado Academy’s CC’s specific role in all this. Did she have any say over the kid backing out of the ED agreement? Did she communicate with the parents and remind them that they too signed the agreement? Does the school have a separate ED agreement saying if a student backs out of an ED agreement, then the school will withhold transcripts from other colleges?

Read the article. There are quotes from the Colorado Academy college counselor.

Three other high schools also received the ban from Tulane. The NYT ended the article with a short form to fill out if you have more information about this. Stay tuned. More will come out.

Anonymous wrote:I can hold two thoughts in my head at once. I can recognize that people should honor their ED commitments, and I can recognize that colleges are the ones who gain the most by filling a significant % of the class through ED. The vast majority of students do not benefit from this system.

Ok. Breaking the rules of the ED application has consequences. Live with the consequences of your behavior.

I can hold two thoughts in my head at once. I can recognize that people should honor their ED commitments, and I can recognize that colleges are the ones who gain the most by filling a significant % of the class through ED. The vast majority of students do not benefit from this system.

I’m wondering about Colorado Academy’s CC’s specific role in all this. Did she have any say over the kid backing out of the ED agreement? Did she communicate with the parents and remind them that they too signed the agreement? Does the school have a separate ED agreement saying if a student backs out of an ED agreement, then the school will withhold transcripts from other colleges?