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Anonymous wrote:So bottom line is there is no USA Swimming policy (yet) and PVS BOD voted to preemptively implement a change they see coming. The proposal in the PVS BOD minutes also indicates, "Results files would still be available to club leaders directly from the meet hosts."

That seems to be the case. I find it hard to believe that USAS would pass a rule prohibiting even the results from being posted though since the information in the PDF results are also publicly available via Meet Mobile. It seems like maybe the easier fix (and I am not tech savvy) is to make it so the meet file doesn’t contain actual dates of birth, just age as of the 1st day of the meet.

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Anonymous wrote:So bottom line is there is no USA Swimming policy (yet) and PVS BOD voted to preemptively implement a change they see coming. The proposal in the PVS BOD minutes also indicates, "Results files would still be available to club leaders directly from the meet hosts."

That seems to be the case. I find it hard to believe that USAS would pass a rule prohibiting even the results from being posted though since the information in the PDF results are also publicly available via Meet Mobile. It seems like maybe the easier fix (and I am not tech savvy) is to make it so the meet file doesn’t contain actual dates of birth, just age as of the 1st day of the meet.

So bottom line is there is no USA Swimming policy (yet) and PVS BOD voted to preemptively implement a change they see coming. The proposal in the PVS BOD minutes also indicates, "Results files would still be available to club leaders directly from the meet hosts."

Maryland Swimming definitely hasn't heard of this unverified new rule. https://www.gomotionapp.com/team/md/page/system/res/210812

The minutes from the August BOD meeting (PVS) has a report regarding the decision not to post the back up file any more because of concerns over the PII of swimmers contained in it. I’m assuming this is in reference to the actual DOBs of swimmers since the names and ages are contained in the results PDF that is still being posted. There is also reference to the author of the report “hearing” that USAS was discussing a policy change that would require LSCs to not post the results and back up file. It does not appear that this rule is actually in effect, just that this person from PVS “heard” it was being discussed.

Anonymous wrote:It is a USAS rule change that files cannot be POSTED. If a Lsc is choosing (BOD vote) to directly send these files to a 3rd party or a meet host is sharing them, then no issue. Result files can no longer be posted for the masses. Only PDF files.

Where is the rule? We would love to see it.

Also just spot checked randomly several other LSC sites and they are still posting the meet files. So there is disparity across LSCs.

Anonymous wrote:It is a USAS rule change that files cannot be POSTED. If a Lsc is choosing (BOD vote) to directly send these files to a 3rd party or a meet host is sharing them, then no issue. Result files can no longer be posted for the masses. Only PDF files.

Can you please link to this rule change? It’s not in the legislation that was just approved by the house of delegates.

Anonymous wrote:It is a USAS rule change that files cannot be POSTED. If a Lsc is choosing (BOD vote) to directly send these files to a 3rd party or a meet host is sharing them, then no issue. Result files can no longer be posted for the masses. Only PDF files.

People have been asking for a link to this rule for several days. How do you know this statement to be true if it's not in writing anywhere?

It is a USAS rule change that files cannot be POSTED. If a Lsc is choosing (BOD vote) to directly send these files to a 3rd party or a meet host is sharing them, then no issue. Result files can no longer be posted for the masses. Only PDF files.

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Anonymous wrote:Swimstandards and Swimmetry seem to be updated now as well, including the meet in Charlottesville that some PVS teams went to this past weekend.

Swimcloud is not. Have not checked myswimiow

MySwimIO is going to be useless now that PV and VSI are not supplying the meet files. I really like it too; such a shame.

Swimmcloud only takes the meet files too. So not sure what they are going to do.

I do not believe this is a rule change either.

It can’t be USA swimming rule change because most of the other LSCs are still providing the meet files.

I would recommend complaining to your club and to the LSCs.

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Anonymous wrote:Swimstandards and Swimmetry seem to be updated now as well, including the meet in Charlottesville that some PVS teams went to this past weekend.

Swimcloud is not. Have not checked myswimiow

MySwimIO is going to be useless now that PV and VSI are not supplying the meet files. I really like it too; such a shame.

Swimmcloud only takes the meet files too. So not sure what they are going to do.

I do not believe this is a rule change either.

It can’t be USA swimming rule change because most of the other LSCs are still providing the meet files.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Swimstandards and Swimmetry seem to be updated now as well, including the meet in Charlottesville that some PVS teams went to this past weekend.

Swimcloud is not. Have not checked myswimiow

MySwimIO is going to be useless now that PV and VSI are not supplying the meet files. I really like it too; such a shame.

Swimmcloud only takes the meet files too. So not sure what they are going to do.

I do not believe this is a rule change either.

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Anonymous wrote:Swimstandards and Swimmetry seem to be updated now as well, including the meet in Charlottesville that some PVS teams went to this past weekend.

Swimcloud is not. Have not checked myswimiow

MySwimIO is going to be useless now that PV and VSI are not supplying the meet files. I really like it too; such a shame.

Anonymous wrote:Swimstandards and Swimmetry seem to be updated now as well, including the meet in Charlottesville that some PVS teams went to this past weekend.

Swimcloud is not. Have not checked myswimiow

Swimstandards and Swimmetry seem to be updated now as well, including the meet in Charlottesville that some PVS teams went to this past weekend.