Anonymous
Post 11/13/2025 16:00     Subject: Fourth grade chrome books in school
Anonymous wrote:Google flooded schools with Chromebooks to gain Marketshare from Windows. Enough kids using Chromebooks through school, and needing them for school (completely locked into the google ecosystem) and you'll take a substantial marketshare from Microsoft. Thats the only reason why we have them. There was no study showing how effective they may be, they just hyped everyone up about computers for students and then left us with the problem.
Now that we have been working through this for a couple years, we are seeing how incredibly INEFFECTIVE chromebooks are for learning, and how frankly destructive they are to the learning environment.


The government should really commission a study of socioeconomically comparable schools in which some have chromebooks and others do traditional learning, and look at the effect on learning outcomes.
Anonymous
Post 11/13/2025 13:45     Subject: Fourth grade chrome books in school
Google flooded schools with Chromebooks to gain Marketshare from Windows. Enough kids using Chromebooks through school, and needing them for school (completely locked into the google ecosystem) and you'll take a substantial marketshare from Microsoft. Thats the only reason why we have them. There was no study showing how effective they may be, they just hyped everyone up about computers for students and then left us with the problem.
Now that we have been working through this for a couple years, we are seeing how incredibly INEFFECTIVE chromebooks are for learning, and how frankly destructive they are to the learning environment.
Anonymous
Post 11/13/2025 12:41     Subject: Fourth grade chrome books in school
Anonymous wrote:https://www.nytimes.com/2025/11/12/upshot/teachers-survey-chromebooks-class.html?unlocked_article_code=1.008.BHZg.GObxPaVa49rj&smid=nytcore-ios-share&referringSource=articleShare

Article from today


Some of the supposed advantages of these devices don't even make sense. "Students learn to design and present material using their own creativity"? I guess all those dioramas and other projects I did in elementary school were not as creative as using a computer program.

Also, it's telling that Google has a vision of teachers being "facilitators" while students use computers to learn.

And it's total B.S. that the youngest children, who can't yet read or type yet, need to be "exposed" to these devices early because the standardized tests they're going to take in their distant future are going to be given online.
Anonymous
Post 11/13/2025 00:39     Subject: Fourth grade chrome books in school
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/11/12/upshot/teachers-survey-chromebooks-class.html?unlocked_article_code=1.008.BHZg.GObxPaVa49rj&smid=nytcore-ios-share&referringSource=articleShare

Article from today
Anonymous
Post 11/12/2025 13:09     Subject: Fourth grade chrome books in school
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:What about IXL? Anyone's school uses it? I'm so over it. This is in a Catholic school.



yes. our school is obsessed. give an award to the top leaderboard scores so the kids get more computer time trying to win


One of the parochial schools we considered used it to provide enrichment to more advanced learners. We decided against that school in favor of a school that uses zero EdTech (and I mean absolutely none. It's wonderful!)

IXL actually does publish some math workbooks that are pretty good. Bought one for my daughter and I've been pleased with the quality.


What kind of school is this? There is a Waldorf school that does this in my area but aside from that it doesn’t seem like a great fit for my kid.


St Anselm Abbey School uses zero edtech.
Anonymous
Post 11/12/2025 12:49     Subject: Fourth grade chrome books in school
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:What about IXL? Anyone's school uses it? I'm so over it. This is in a Catholic school.



yes. our school is obsessed. give an award to the top leaderboard scores so the kids get more computer time trying to win


One of the parochial schools we considered used it to provide enrichment to more advanced learners. We decided against that school in favor of a school that uses zero EdTech (and I mean absolutely none. It's wonderful!)

IXL actually does publish some math workbooks that are pretty good. Bought one for my daughter and I've been pleased with the quality.


What kind of school is this? There is a Waldorf school that does this in my area but aside from that it doesn’t seem like a great fit for my kid.
Anonymous
Post 11/12/2025 12:37     Subject: Fourth grade chrome books in school
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:What about IXL? Anyone's school uses it? I'm so over it. This is in a Catholic school.



yes. our school is obsessed. give an award to the top leaderboard scores so the kids get more computer time trying to win


One of the parochial schools we considered used it to provide enrichment to more advanced learners. We decided against that school in favor of a school that uses zero EdTech (and I mean absolutely none. It's wonderful!)

IXL actually does publish some math workbooks that are pretty good. Bought one for my daughter and I've been pleased with the quality.


Good for you. I’ve looked at every public and private school available in our area and they all use a significant amount of EdTech- even the catholic schools, though slightly less than public.
Anonymous
Post 11/12/2025 12:05     Subject: Fourth grade chrome books in school
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:What about IXL? Anyone's school uses it? I'm so over it. This is in a Catholic school.



yes. our school is obsessed. give an award to the top leaderboard scores so the kids get more computer time trying to win


One of the parochial schools we considered used it to provide enrichment to more advanced learners. We decided against that school in favor of a school that uses zero EdTech (and I mean absolutely none. It's wonderful!)

IXL actually does publish some math workbooks that are pretty good. Bought one for my daughter and I've been pleased with the quality.
Anonymous
Post 11/11/2025 18:37     Subject: Fourth grade chrome books in school
Anonymous wrote:What about IXL? Anyone's school uses it? I'm so over it. This is in a Catholic school.



yes. our school is obsessed. give an award to the top leaderboard scores so the kids get more computer time trying to win
Anonymous
Post 11/10/2025 21:53     Subject: Fourth grade chrome books in school
What about IXL? Anyone's school uses it? I'm so over it. This is in a Catholic school.
Anonymous
Post 11/04/2025 17:26     Subject: Fourth grade chrome books in school
Anonymous wrote:We should go back to states and chalk, amrite?

Y’all are ridiculous.


Yes please. Chalk boards, chalk, and cursive. Paper and pencils. Computers should be a tool for typing and researching- not a teaching lessons babysitting, and entertaining in school.
Anonymous
Post 11/04/2025 09:09     Subject: Fourth grade chrome books in school
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:We should go back to states and chalk, amrite?

Y’all are ridiculous.


maybe we should. have you talked to a longtime teacher lately. the drop after 2012-15 or so is crazy ( when iphones/ipads really took off)


and ed tech sorry
Anonymous
Post 11/04/2025 09:07     Subject: Fourth grade chrome books in school
Anonymous wrote:We should go back to states and chalk, amrite?

Y’all are ridiculous.


maybe we should. have you talked to a longtime teacher lately. the drop after 2012-15 or so is crazy ( when iphones/ipads really took off)
Anonymous
Post 11/04/2025 07:07     Subject: Fourth grade chrome books in school
We should go back to states and chalk, amrite?

Y’all are ridiculous.
Anonymous
Post 11/04/2025 07:06     Subject: Re:Fourth grade chrome books in school
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I'm not sure that I understand the objection. I suppose that we could argue that buying Chromebooks at the elementary level isn't the best use of limited school-district resources, but children do need to learn how to be computer-literate. Researching stuff on the Internet is at least as important as learning how to use library resources. I know that people my age (late 40s) spent significant time in library class in elementary school, learning how to find information. These basic skills served me well thorugh my secondary and college education. This is still necessary for children today, but they also need to know how to use online search functionality, how to evaluate the quality of a given source, and how to prepare a bibliography including Internet sources.

If your kids are playing games all day, then the teacher has a classroom-management problem. This isn't a problem with the technology.


So you managed to develop computer skills, online research skills, online literacy etc WITHOUT being issued a personal chromebook in elementary? In other words, it is completely unnecessary. I hate the argument that kids NEED them in order to develop computer skills.


And people managed to get places by horse and buggy. Your point? 🙄


Calculators perform basic arithmetic far more efficiently than humans, and were a major improvement the abacus and the slide rule. Just because the technology improved, however, we haven’t taught kids to use calculators instead of having them to math problems by hand.

Elementary education is about building a fundamental understanding. If there is a concern that students don’t have a fundamental understanding of computers then students should be learning to program in Java or Python or something. Doing IXL learning, etc, doesn’t actually improve computer literacy.