Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Agree with previous posters that 1) parenting is more intense 2) lack of rash guards/swimwear but also 3) lack of variety of sunscreens. We have sunscreen in makeup, lotion, different types for skin-sensitive, different scents. It makes it more accessible to people and more of a cultural “must”
I don't think this makes sunscreen "more accessible" to parents with young kids. Is your 5 yr old layering sunscreen in makeup and buying specialty versions? No. If anything, the recent conspiracy-mongering that the chemicals in sunscreen cause cancer is making some parents LESS likely to use sunscreen. I've heard parents fretting over sunscreen brands and formulations in recent years. Back in the 80s and 90s you just bought some SPF 50 in whatever brand was available/cheapest/smelled best and called it a day.
In the 80’s and here was no 50 and there was no waterproof sunscreen. There was 4 and 8, as someone pointed out and they needed to be reapplied every hour or two.
There was also the idea that burning was bad but tanning was good, so they was his calculus to figure out how to get brown instead of red, and people would try to get up to that line.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:80s were a time of being raised with benign neglect (leave them alone and they'll figure it out), now we helicopter parent.
Also a fairskinned, the 80s were my HS years when we slathered on baby oil and roasted ourselves at the pool every time we went. People in general weren't as worried about skin cancer or sunburns back then
But sunburns are very painful. Even if you'd never heard of melanoma, you'd think you'd take steps to avoid sunburns just because they are so miserable. A bad sunburn on very fair skin, especially on a kid, can cause fever and painful itching and burning for days, and the skin will peel for weeks. That's not "benign neglect." It's like intentionally giving your kid a virus for no reason whatsoever.
Your mom was raised by people who grew up without sunscreen’s existence. Sunburns were a normal part of life.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:So you don’t have a dad?
This was kind of my thought too. Blame the mom always.
OP here and actually I didn't have a present dad. But also, in my family, DH doesn't do the sunscreen because he's Italian and tans easily and doesn't know how to do it (if he applies it, he misses spots or puts it on top thin). But my mom was fair and knew how to do it.
Anonymous wrote:People didn't realize how overexposure to sun was harmful.
Same thing as now when parents "under expose" kids to sun, and it's causing widespread health problems.
From one extreme to the other.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:So you don’t have a dad?
This was kind of my thought too. Blame the mom always.
OP here and actually I didn't have a present dad. But also, in my family, DH doesn't do the sunscreen because he's Italian and tans easily and doesn't know how to do it (if he applies it, he misses spots or puts it on top thin). But my mom was fair and knew how to do it.
This is bizarre. You blame your mom because you claim she knew how to prevent sunburn in kids in an era when most people didn’t know how, and didn’t think of it as a goal, and the technology wasn’t there to make it easy.
But your husband shouldn’t be blamed because he is Italian?
You misunderstand. My mom clearly knew how to prevent sunburns because she didn't get burned constantly and she has the same skin. I don't know if she was wearing sunscreen or covering up more or what. I do remember she almost always wore a hat. So it's not like she just didn't know how to prevent burns, she just wasn't doing any of that for me for some reason.
She probably tried to get you to wear sunscreen (ewww icky it stings!) or hats (ewww no that's old people hats and not cool!) and you don't remember avoiding them.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:So you don’t have a dad?
This was kind of my thought too. Blame the mom always.
OP here and actually I didn't have a present dad. But also, in my family, DH doesn't do the sunscreen because he's Italian and tans easily and doesn't know how to do it (if he applies it, he misses spots or puts it on top thin). But my mom was fair and knew how to do it.
This is bizarre. You blame your mom because you claim she knew how to prevent sunburn in kids in an era when most people didn’t know how, and didn’t think of it as a goal, and the technology wasn’t there to make it easy.
But your husband shouldn’t be blamed because he is Italian?
You misunderstand. My mom clearly knew how to prevent sunburns because she didn't get burned constantly and she has the same skin. I don't know if she was wearing sunscreen or covering up more or what. I do remember she almost always wore a hat. So it's not like she just didn't know how to prevent burns, she just wasn't doing any of that for me for some reason.
Anonymous wrote:OP here. For the record, I'm not holding a grudge against my mom. I'm honestly just confused as to why she didn't do anything to prevent those sunburns. I get sunscreen was different back then and the culture was different, but even if sunscreen wasn't a thing now, I have a hard time believing I'd just let my super pale daughter go out and get lobster red 4-5x a summer and not take some kind of action, like being militant about hat wearing or changing our schedule, or forcing her to wear zinc or pants. Something. It's wild to me that I got probably 20+ really bad sunburns in my childhood and we didn't do anything about them.
I think I'm also surprised because I don't remember ever treating any of those sunburns. I don't remember being encouraged to drink more water or doing any kind of topical treatment. Now I know to always have hydrocortisone on hand and to give an anti-inflammatory pain reliever and push extra water when anyone in our family has had too much sun. But I learned this as an adult. Did people truly not know back then? Hydrocortisone is cheap and OTC. Drinking water is practically free. Those burns could have been a lot less painful if we'd treated them, but I remember just having sleepless nights in pain while I waited for the burned skin to peel off and I'd finally get relief.
It's just wild to me. I'm not sitting around stewing about my mom, I'm just kind of shocked at how different it was and how there were some fairly easy things we could have done to protect my skin or recover from burns faster and we just didn't do them. I'm glad my DD is getting better sun protection and after-sun care than I did!
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:So you don’t have a dad?
This was kind of my thought too. Blame the mom always.
OP here and actually I didn't have a present dad. But also, in my family, DH doesn't do the sunscreen because he's Italian and tans easily and doesn't know how to do it (if he applies it, he misses spots or puts it on top thin). But my mom was fair and knew how to do it.
This is bizarre. You blame your mom because you claim she knew how to prevent sunburn in kids in an era when most people didn’t know how, and didn’t think of it as a goal, and the technology wasn’t there to make it easy.
But your husband shouldn’t be blamed because he is Italian?
Anonymous wrote:OP here. For the record, I'm not holding a grudge against my mom. I'm honestly just confused as to why she didn't do anything to prevent those sunburns. I get sunscreen was different back then and the culture was different, but even if sunscreen wasn't a thing now, I have a hard time believing I'd just let my super pale daughter go out and get lobster red 4-5x a summer and not take some kind of action, like being militant about hat wearing or changing our schedule, or forcing her to wear zinc or pants. Something. It's wild to me that I got probably 20+ really bad sunburns in my childhood and we didn't do anything about them.
I think I'm also surprised because I don't remember ever treating any of those sunburns. I don't remember being encouraged to drink more water or doing any kind of topical treatment. Now I know to always have hydrocortisone on hand and to give an anti-inflammatory pain reliever and push extra water when anyone in our family has had too much sun. But I learned this as an adult. Did people truly not know back then? Hydrocortisone is cheap and OTC. Drinking water is practically free. Those burns could have been a lot less painful if we'd treated them, but I remember just having sleepless nights in pain while I waited for the burned skin to peel off and I'd finally get relief.
It's just wild to me. I'm not sitting around stewing about my mom, I'm just kind of shocked at how different it was and how there were some fairly easy things we could have done to protect my skin or recover from burns faster and we just didn't do them. I'm glad my DD is getting better sun protection and after-sun care than I did!
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:So you don’t have a dad?
This was kind of my thought too. Blame the mom always.
OP here and actually I didn't have a present dad. But also, in my family, DH doesn't do the sunscreen because he's Italian and tans easily and doesn't know how to do it (if he applies it, he misses spots or puts it on top thin). But my mom was fair and knew how to do it.
This is bizarre. You blame your mom because you claim she knew how to prevent sunburn in kids in an era when most people didn’t know how, and didn’t think of it as a goal, and the technology wasn’t there to make it easy.
But your husband shouldn’t be blamed because he is Italian?