Anonymous wrote:Really discouraging to see all the posters blaming OP for having a husband who dumps the mental load on her.
OP, go get a copy of All the Rage. This is messed up (and too familiar)
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:If he's doing this twice in quick succession often - like he'll do it again in two months, then again in another two months - I think you're fine to ask him not to.
If he rarely does this but wants to now, I'd try to make it work.
Could you take a long weekend to go visit a friend you haven't seen for a while? Or is part of the issue that you don't find it fun to actually plan a trip for yourself like that, so you're kind of upset he's leaving and also wondering why you've made a life/personality where you can't enjoy yourself with friends in New York too? (I might feel that way... I have so many friends I'd in theory love to go visit and somehow I just never actually buy the plane tickets to do it.)
I think this is part of it. He doesn’t have to think, he just goes, because I’m there by default. I wish I could just spontaneously be like, you know what, I’m going out of town. My thing is, he just will have gone on this fun work trip with colleagues who are friends, too. If he can figure out how to have a four day weekend in June for himself, why can’t WE do something? Or why can’t I do something? If I want to do something, I have to make it work around his schedule.
Do you really though, or are you putting that on yourself?
Just tell him you would like to take a similar weekend away yourself. Ask him if weekend A or B would be better but leave him to figure out how to make it work as he did for you. He can take vacation day, arrange a sitter, get his parents to come visit.. not your problem. You might be surprised that he can rise to the challenge. If he can't, then it's time for a conversation about your need for some time to do fun things and fairness.
Similarly, if what you want is a weekend away together, tell him that! "I think it's great that you are able to get away with friends - but really would love if we could figure out a way to make it work so we could do something like that together. Can we brainstorm together on whether there's a way we could pull that off?
FWIW my own husband has figured out how to handle me being away for a week when our kids were one and two and two weeks when they were 6 and 7. He took the lead on figuring out childcare, arranging time off work, planning fun adventures. He regularly encourages me to go on trips with friends.
I agree with others that his request is totally reasonable (unless you have infant triplets or something) and that your marriage will be better for making good things happen for each other if he's not trying to run off every weekend. Instead of saying No to him, articulate what you want yourself and work with him to make it happen. You come across as being a bit petty and not wanting him to have fun if you cannot and a bit martyr-ish in assuming that he can't do the same for you.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Is the issue that you don’t want him to go, or that you’re mad that he can go wherever whenever because you make it work and he couldn’t/wouldn’t if the tables were turned? Because if it’s the latter, you should tell him you’re delighted for him to have this great opportunity with his friends, but you realized that you’re feeling kind of resentful because it’s not possible for you to do the same kind of thing and you would like to think about ways of changing things going forward. In my marriage things are set up DH can do that and I can’t and we both recognize that, and he is grateful that I am taking that hit to enable him to do what he needs and/or wants to do. The recognition and gratitude go a long way.
But that would require OP to use her words and tell her husband how she feels instead of just stewing and posting about it on an anonymous internet forum. If she discusses it with him and things get better then what would she do with her time?
Was that unnecessarily harsh? Probably. But as a woman who has fought at all her jobs for equal treatment/pay and refused to be treated differently because I'm a woman, I'm so sick of listening to all these women complain and then do NOTHING about it.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Is the issue that you don’t want him to go, or that you’re mad that he can go wherever whenever because you make it work and he couldn’t/wouldn’t if the tables were turned? Because if it’s the latter, you should tell him you’re delighted for him to have this great opportunity with his friends, but you realized that you’re feeling kind of resentful because it’s not possible for you to do the same kind of thing and you would like to think about ways of changing things going forward. In my marriage things are set up DH can do that and I can’t and we both recognize that, and he is grateful that I am taking that hit to enable him to do what he needs and/or wants to do. The recognition and gratitude go a long way.
But that would require OP to use her words and tell her husband how she feels instead of just stewing and posting about it on an anonymous internet forum. If she discusses it with him and things get better then what would she do with her time?
Was that unnecessarily harsh? Probably. But as a woman who has fought at all her jobs for equal treatment/pay and refused to be treated differently because I'm a woman, I'm so sick of listening to all these women complain and then do NOTHING about it.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:If he's doing this twice in quick succession often - like he'll do it again in two months, then again in another two months - I think you're fine to ask him not to.
If he rarely does this but wants to now, I'd try to make it work.
Could you take a long weekend to go visit a friend you haven't seen for a while? Or is part of the issue that you don't find it fun to actually plan a trip for yourself like that, so you're kind of upset he's leaving and also wondering why you've made a life/personality where you can't enjoy yourself with friends in New York too? (I might feel that way... I have so many friends I'd in theory love to go visit and somehow I just never actually buy the plane tickets to do it.)
I think this is part of it. He doesn’t have to think, he just goes, because I’m there by default. I wish I could just spontaneously be like, you know what, I’m going out of town. My thing is, he just will have gone on this fun work trip with colleagues who are friends, too. If he can figure out how to have a four day weekend in June for himself, why can’t WE do something? Or why can’t I do something? If I want to do something, I have to make it work around his schedule.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:If he's doing this twice in quick succession often - like he'll do it again in two months, then again in another two months - I think you're fine to ask him not to.
If he rarely does this but wants to now, I'd try to make it work.
Could you take a long weekend to go visit a friend you haven't seen for a while? Or is part of the issue that you don't find it fun to actually plan a trip for yourself like that, so you're kind of upset he's leaving and also wondering why you've made a life/personality where you can't enjoy yourself with friends in New York too? (I might feel that way... I have so many friends I'd in theory love to go visit and somehow I just never actually buy the plane tickets to do it.)
I think this is part of it. He doesn’t have to think, he just goes, because I’m there by default. I wish I could just spontaneously be like, you know what, I’m going out of town. My thing is, he just will have gone on this fun work trip with colleagues who are friends, too. If he can figure out how to have a four day weekend in June for himself, why can’t WE do something? Or why can’t I do something? If I want to do something, I have to make it work around his schedule.
Why? Tell him you're going out of town and let him figure out the childcare if his work schedule is an issue.
I don't get this - when I go out of town I just talk to my husband and the dates and then I leave. He is in charge of figuring out how to deal with everything when I'm gone. Same with if he leaves. I don't say well you have to plan for this and that. Just go.
I did this once. I was chief resident and went to the chief conference for my specialty. DH called me frequently to tell me how awful I was for doing this to him. When he had to work, he took the kids to my parents house. Then they called and told me how irresponsible I was to just leave with no childcare for my kids. Neither my parents or my husband showed up to my graduation a few months later. I just went and brought my kids. I felt so awful and guilty.
This was 10+ years ago, and things are different in my marriage now, but don’t discount how entrenched gender roles can be.
Jesus. I would rip my H a new one if he tried that with me. Put the phone on silent, and if he starts any BS, ask him what kind of terrible father can’t take care of his own children.
And your parents as well?! I would cut mine off if they skipped my graduation for that.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:If he's doing this twice in quick succession often - like he'll do it again in two months, then again in another two months - I think you're fine to ask him not to.
If he rarely does this but wants to now, I'd try to make it work.
Could you take a long weekend to go visit a friend you haven't seen for a while? Or is part of the issue that you don't find it fun to actually plan a trip for yourself like that, so you're kind of upset he's leaving and also wondering why you've made a life/personality where you can't enjoy yourself with friends in New York too? (I might feel that way... I have so many friends I'd in theory love to go visit and somehow I just never actually buy the plane tickets to do it.)
I think this is part of it. He doesn’t have to think, he just goes, because I’m there by default. I wish I could just spontaneously be like, you know what, I’m going out of town. My thing is, he just will have gone on this fun work trip with colleagues who are friends, too. If he can figure out how to have a four day weekend in June for himself, why can’t WE do something? Or why can’t I do something? If I want to do something, I have to make it work around his schedule.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:If he's doing this twice in quick succession often - like he'll do it again in two months, then again in another two months - I think you're fine to ask him not to.
If he rarely does this but wants to now, I'd try to make it work.
Could you take a long weekend to go visit a friend you haven't seen for a while? Or is part of the issue that you don't find it fun to actually plan a trip for yourself like that, so you're kind of upset he's leaving and also wondering why you've made a life/personality where you can't enjoy yourself with friends in New York too? (I might feel that way... I have so many friends I'd in theory love to go visit and somehow I just never actually buy the plane tickets to do it.)
I think this is part of it. He doesn’t have to think, he just goes, because I’m there by default. I wish I could just spontaneously be like, you know what, I’m going out of town. My thing is, he just will have gone on this fun work trip with colleagues who are friends, too. If he can figure out how to have a four day weekend in June for himself, why can’t WE do something? Or why can’t I do something? If I want to do something, I have to make it work around his schedule.
Why? Tell him you're going out of town and let him figure out the childcare if his work schedule is an issue.
I don't get this - when I go out of town I just talk to my husband and the dates and then I leave. He is in charge of figuring out how to deal with everything when I'm gone. Same with if he leaves. I don't say well you have to plan for this and that. Just go.
I did this once. I was chief resident and went to the chief conference for my specialty. DH called me frequently to tell me how awful I was for doing this to him. When he had to work, he took the kids to my parents house. Then they called and told me how irresponsible I was to just leave with no childcare for my kids. Neither my parents or my husband showed up to my graduation a few months later. I just went and brought my kids. I felt so awful and guilty.
This was 10+ years ago, and things are different in my marriage now, but don’t discount how entrenched gender roles can be.
Anonymous wrote:Is the issue that you don’t want him to go, or that you’re mad that he can go wherever whenever because you make it work and he couldn’t/wouldn’t if the tables were turned? Because if it’s the latter, you should tell him you’re delighted for him to have this great opportunity with his friends, but you realized that you’re feeling kind of resentful because it’s not possible for you to do the same kind of thing and you would like to think about ways of changing things going forward. In my marriage things are set up DH can do that and I can’t and we both recognize that, and he is grateful that I am taking that hit to enable him to do what he needs and/or wants to do. The recognition and gratitude go a long way.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Do you want to do a weekend away? Have you even asked him to make his work schedule work for you to take a long weekend away? I don't know you just seem to be talking about fairness and about it being your turn but it doesn't seem like you've even talked to him about it. For all you know he could say "sure, I can work my schedule out so I you can go away for a few days"
You’re right. I think I’m realizing now that my issue is that he doesn’t ask, he just tells, because his going away doesn’t affect my schedule at all. I’m a little resentful of that, I think.
That’s my DH. He always says I can go away whenever I want, but then when I plan something he has 50 reasons for why he can’t make dropoff and pickup happen that week because work is busy or whatever. And then the kids freak out because he doesn’t make meals and can’t help with hair or school uniforms. And then if I try to plan something, none of my friends are free anyway.
The truth is that DH and his friends have the bandwidth and support at home to meet up and travel together, and my friends and I don’t plan things because they’re in the same situation with their DHs.
It is what it is so I make the most of when DH is gone. I randomly repaint rooms, get food only I like for dinner, and let the kids watch all the tv they want.
What does this even mean?! He doesn't know how clothes get put on? I mean, seriously. It feels like you're actually enabling this behavior.
I mean, pretty much. Last time they took dress cuts because he had them half in uniform and half not. I fully agree that it was ridiculous. But I won’t have my kids punished because DH doesn’t care.