Anonymous
Post 03/02/2026 21:12     Subject: Re:Seeking info on McKinley Tech HS

Anonymous wrote:Yes- McKinley requires calculus and offers a non-AP and AP version. Students who complete AP Calc AB before senior year must still take math their senior year. They can take statistics or Calc BC.


They can also take dual enrollment math. There is a student in the class of 2027 who took AP Calculus in 9th at Tech.
Anonymous
Post 03/02/2026 21:08     Subject: Re:Seeking info on McKinley Tech HS

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Anonymous wrote:I think the rule is that you only have to take 1 DC CAPE math test in HS. My son took Alg II in 10th, but did not have to take DC CAPE. He only took ELA in 10th.


What? I have not heard of this. I was under the impression all kids 3-10 take CAPE and you only don’t have to take math CAPE if you are past Algebra II.

This is totally ridiculous. So even less objective data on how our kids are doing?


Yes, high school math CAPE scores are a poor indication of school performance.

From the 2024-2025 CAPE file data notes: "The required high school assessments are Algebra I, Geometry, English I, and English II. For students who take Geometry prior to high school, the required high school mathematics assessment is Algebra II."


So then the Algebra II scores are really the 9th graders taking Algebra II which means there is none in this category at McKinley


I think that's the answer. But, I think as more middle schools offer Geometry that could change because then there would be 9th graders taking Algebra II.

Or, I suppose, if someone transferred in for 10th grade from a different state so hadn't taken a CAPE in high school yet...


There is no DCPS middle school that I know of that actually has a geometry class of 8th graders. None. Correct me if I’m wrong.


Don't mind if I do! Have a look at the Middle School Advanced Math spreadsheet and you will see which schools had kids taking the Geometry CAPE. The list from last year is Hardy, Oyster-Adams, Deal, Eliot-Hine, Sousa, Jefferson, CHEC middle, and both Latins. So you see, it is not really rare. Offerings can change from year to year but I expect this list will grow as it's clearly a goal for a lot of schools.



How many kids taking it in the EOTP middle schools? A few or handful is not a class offering.



I don't know, I don't think that information is public. I can see that it says "DS" (data suppressed) for Hardy, Deal, Eliot-Hine, and the Latins. It says
"n<10" for Oyster-Adams, Sousa, Jefferson, and CHEC middle. So maybe that means the "DS" schools had 10 or more.

But also, what matters to me is that my kid be able to take it, and I don't really care how large the class is. It's probably a better learning experience with 8-10 kids rather than 20-25. It would be lovely if lots of kids were able to do it, but a school like ITDS that only has 40-some 8th graders total isn't realistically going to have more than a handful.


O-A, Sousa, Jefferson, CHEC fewer than 10 took the course.

Deal and Hardy data is suppressed because a small number of students didn't meet/exceed and the exact number plus demographic indicators could be personally identifying. But both show >95% meeting/exceeding which means somewhere between 21-100 students took the test based on OSSE's rules for data suppression: https://osse.dc.gov/page/student-privacy-and-data-suppression-policy-glance

Latin Cooper had 28 students take the test, 26 meet/exceed.

Latin had 25 students take the test, 21 meet/exceed.

Eliot-Hine had 17 students take the test, 9 meet/exceed.
Anonymous
Post 03/02/2026 20:55     Subject: Re:Seeking info on McKinley Tech HS

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Anonymous wrote:I think the rule is that you only have to take 1 DC CAPE math test in HS. My son took Alg II in 10th, but did not have to take DC CAPE. He only took ELA in 10th.


What? I have not heard of this. I was under the impression all kids 3-10 take CAPE and you only don’t have to take math CAPE if you are past Algebra II.

This is totally ridiculous. So even less objective data on how our kids are doing?


Yes, high school math CAPE scores are a poor indication of school performance.

From the 2024-2025 CAPE file data notes: "The required high school assessments are Algebra I, Geometry, English I, and English II. For students who take Geometry prior to high school, the required high school mathematics assessment is Algebra II."


So then the Algebra II scores are really the 9th graders taking Algebra II which means there is none in this category at McKinley


There are only three high schools that had 10 or more students take the Algebra II CAPE: J-R had 38, SWW had 27, and Latin had 34. There were only 120 students total who took the Algebra II test last year. Presumedly out of 7,006 9th graders.

But I'm not sure this is a great way of assessing what math level students are entering high school with. DCI and BASIS have large cohorts of students who have completed Geometry by 9th, but that doesn't show up in the spreadsheet because of the way they handle testing. It's possible other schools are approaching testing differently as well.
Anonymous
Post 03/02/2026 20:21     Subject: Re:Seeking info on McKinley Tech HS

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Anonymous wrote:I think the rule is that you only have to take 1 DC CAPE math test in HS. My son took Alg II in 10th, but did not have to take DC CAPE. He only took ELA in 10th.


What? I have not heard of this. I was under the impression all kids 3-10 take CAPE and you only don’t have to take math CAPE if you are past Algebra II.

This is totally ridiculous. So even less objective data on how our kids are doing?


Yes, high school math CAPE scores are a poor indication of school performance.

From the 2024-2025 CAPE file data notes: "The required high school assessments are Algebra I, Geometry, English I, and English II. For students who take Geometry prior to high school, the required high school mathematics assessment is Algebra II."


So then the Algebra II scores are really the 9th graders taking Algebra II which means there is none in this category at McKinley


I think that's the answer. But, I think as more middle schools offer Geometry that could change because then there would be 9th graders taking Algebra II.

Or, I suppose, if someone transferred in for 10th grade from a different state so hadn't taken a CAPE in high school yet...


There is no DCPS middle school that I know of that actually has a geometry class of 8th graders. None. Correct me if I’m wrong.


Don't mind if I do! Have a look at the Middle School Advanced Math spreadsheet and you will see which schools had kids taking the Geometry CAPE. The list from last year is Hardy, Oyster-Adams, Deal, Eliot-Hine, Sousa, Jefferson, CHEC middle, and both Latins. So you see, it is not really rare. Offerings can change from year to year but I expect this list will grow as it's clearly a goal for a lot of schools.



How many kids taking it in the EOTP middle schools? A few or handful is not a class offering.



I don't know, I don't think that information is public. I can see that it says "DS" (data suppressed) for Hardy, Deal, Eliot-Hine, and the Latins. It says
"n<10" for Oyster-Adams, Sousa, Jefferson, and CHEC middle. So maybe that means the "DS" schools had 10 or more.

But also, what matters to me is that my kid be able to take it, and I don't really care how large the class is. It's probably a better learning experience with 8-10 kids rather than 20-25. It would be lovely if lots of kids were able to do it, but a school like ITDS that only has 40-some 8th graders total isn't realistically going to have more than a handful.
Anonymous
Post 03/02/2026 20:15     Subject: Re:Seeking info on McKinley Tech HS

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Anonymous wrote:I think the rule is that you only have to take 1 DC CAPE math test in HS. My son took Alg II in 10th, but did not have to take DC CAPE. He only took ELA in 10th.


What? I have not heard of this. I was under the impression all kids 3-10 take CAPE and you only don’t have to take math CAPE if you are past Algebra II.

This is totally ridiculous. So even less objective data on how our kids are doing?


Yes, high school math CAPE scores are a poor indication of school performance.

From the 2024-2025 CAPE file data notes: "The required high school assessments are Algebra I, Geometry, English I, and English II. For students who take Geometry prior to high school, the required high school mathematics assessment is Algebra II."


So then the Algebra II scores are really the 9th graders taking Algebra II which means there is none in this category at McKinley


I think that's the answer. But, I think as more middle schools offer Geometry that could change because then there would be 9th graders taking Algebra II.

Or, I suppose, if someone transferred in for 10th grade from a different state so hadn't taken a CAPE in high school yet...


There is no DCPS middle school that I know of that actually has a geometry class of 8th graders. None. Correct me if I’m wrong.


Don't mind if I do! Have a look at the Middle School Advanced Math spreadsheet and you will see which schools had kids taking the Geometry CAPE. The list from last year is Hardy, Oyster-Adams, Deal, Eliot-Hine, Sousa, Jefferson, CHEC middle, and both Latins. So you see, it is not really rare. Offerings can change from year to year but I expect this list will grow as it's clearly a goal for a lot of schools.



How many kids taking it in the EOTP middle schools? A few or handful is not a class offering.

Anonymous
Post 03/02/2026 19:57     Subject: Seeking info on McKinley Tech HS

Inspired Teaching is offering Geometry to 8th graders right now, for the first time. So it should show up in next year's data.
Anonymous
Post 03/02/2026 19:56     Subject: Seeking info on McKinley Tech HS

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Anonymous wrote:That is false. There are multiple dcps middle schools with an 8th grade geometry class.


I’m the PP and was asking about DCPS middle schools EOTP specifically. Which ones have a large enough cohort of higher performing 8th graders to actually have a geometry class?


Stop thinking that a large cohort is required-- it isn't. DCPS is willing to offer Geometry even to a smaller group because it's a goal to increase numbers. You can't expect to go from zero to 20.
Anonymous
Post 03/02/2026 19:55     Subject: Re:Seeking info on McKinley Tech HS

Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:I think the rule is that you only have to take 1 DC CAPE math test in HS. My son took Alg II in 10th, but did not have to take DC CAPE. He only took ELA in 10th.


What? I have not heard of this. I was under the impression all kids 3-10 take CAPE and you only don’t have to take math CAPE if you are past Algebra II.

This is totally ridiculous. So even less objective data on how our kids are doing?


Yes, high school math CAPE scores are a poor indication of school performance.

From the 2024-2025 CAPE file data notes: "The required high school assessments are Algebra I, Geometry, English I, and English II. For students who take Geometry prior to high school, the required high school mathematics assessment is Algebra II."


So then the Algebra II scores are really the 9th graders taking Algebra II which means there is none in this category at McKinley


I think that's the answer. But, I think as more middle schools offer Geometry that could change because then there would be 9th graders taking Algebra II.

Or, I suppose, if someone transferred in for 10th grade from a different state so hadn't taken a CAPE in high school yet...


There is no DCPS middle school that I know of that actually has a geometry class of 8th graders. None. Correct me if I’m wrong.


Deal.

They used to offer algebra II but no longer do.
Anonymous
Post 03/02/2026 19:55     Subject: Re:Seeking info on McKinley Tech HS

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Anonymous wrote:I think the rule is that you only have to take 1 DC CAPE math test in HS. My son took Alg II in 10th, but did not have to take DC CAPE. He only took ELA in 10th.


What? I have not heard of this. I was under the impression all kids 3-10 take CAPE and you only don’t have to take math CAPE if you are past Algebra II.

This is totally ridiculous. So even less objective data on how our kids are doing?


Yes, high school math CAPE scores are a poor indication of school performance.

From the 2024-2025 CAPE file data notes: "The required high school assessments are Algebra I, Geometry, English I, and English II. For students who take Geometry prior to high school, the required high school mathematics assessment is Algebra II."


So then the Algebra II scores are really the 9th graders taking Algebra II which means there is none in this category at McKinley


I think that's the answer. But, I think as more middle schools offer Geometry that could change because then there would be 9th graders taking Algebra II.

Or, I suppose, if someone transferred in for 10th grade from a different state so hadn't taken a CAPE in high school yet...


There is no DCPS middle school that I know of that actually has a geometry class of 8th graders. None. Correct me if I’m wrong.


Don't mind if I do! Have a look at the Middle School Advanced Math spreadsheet and you will see which schools had kids taking the Geometry CAPE. The list from last year is Hardy, Oyster-Adams, Deal, Eliot-Hine, Sousa, Jefferson, CHEC middle, and both Latins. So you see, it is not really rare. Offerings can change from year to year but I expect this list will grow as it's clearly a goal for a lot of schools.

Anonymous
Post 03/02/2026 19:47     Subject: Seeking info on McKinley Tech HS

Anonymous wrote:That is false. There are multiple dcps middle schools with an 8th grade geometry class.


I’m the PP and was asking about DCPS middle schools EOTP specifically. Which ones have a large enough cohort of higher performing 8th graders to actually have a geometry class?
Anonymous
Post 03/02/2026 19:45     Subject: Seeking info on McKinley Tech HS

That is false. There are multiple dcps middle schools with an 8th grade geometry class.
Anonymous
Post 03/02/2026 19:41     Subject: Re:Seeking info on McKinley Tech HS

Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:I think the rule is that you only have to take 1 DC CAPE math test in HS. My son took Alg II in 10th, but did not have to take DC CAPE. He only took ELA in 10th.


What? I have not heard of this. I was under the impression all kids 3-10 take CAPE and you only don’t have to take math CAPE if you are past Algebra II.

This is totally ridiculous. So even less objective data on how our kids are doing?


Yes, high school math CAPE scores are a poor indication of school performance.

From the 2024-2025 CAPE file data notes: "The required high school assessments are Algebra I, Geometry, English I, and English II. For students who take Geometry prior to high school, the required high school mathematics assessment is Algebra II."


So then the Algebra II scores are really the 9th graders taking Algebra II which means there is none in this category at McKinley


I think that's the answer. But, I think as more middle schools offer Geometry that could change because then there would be 9th graders taking Algebra II.

Or, I suppose, if someone transferred in for 10th grade from a different state so hadn't taken a CAPE in high school yet...


There is no DCPS middle school that I know of that actually has a geometry class of 8th graders. None. Correct me if I’m wrong.
Anonymous
Post 03/02/2026 19:13     Subject: Re:Seeking info on McKinley Tech HS

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I think the rule is that you only have to take 1 DC CAPE math test in HS. My son took Alg II in 10th, but did not have to take DC CAPE. He only took ELA in 10th.


What? I have not heard of this. I was under the impression all kids 3-10 take CAPE and you only don’t have to take math CAPE if you are past Algebra II.

This is totally ridiculous. So even less objective data on how our kids are doing?


Yes, high school math CAPE scores are a poor indication of school performance.

From the 2024-2025 CAPE file data notes: "The required high school assessments are Algebra I, Geometry, English I, and English II. For students who take Geometry prior to high school, the required high school mathematics assessment is Algebra II."


So then the Algebra II scores are really the 9th graders taking Algebra II which means there is none in this category at McKinley


I think that's the answer. But, I think as more middle schools offer Geometry that could change because then there would be 9th graders taking Algebra II.

Or, I suppose, if someone transferred in for 10th grade from a different state so hadn't taken a CAPE in high school yet...
Anonymous
Post 03/02/2026 19:10     Subject: Re:Seeking info on McKinley Tech HS

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I think the rule is that you only have to take 1 DC CAPE math test in HS. My son took Alg II in 10th, but did not have to take DC CAPE. He only took ELA in 10th.


What? I have not heard of this. I was under the impression all kids 3-10 take CAPE and you only don’t have to take math CAPE if you are past Algebra II.

This is totally ridiculous. So even less objective data on how our kids are doing?


Yes, high school math CAPE scores are a poor indication of school performance.

From the 2024-2025 CAPE file data notes: "The required high school assessments are Algebra I, Geometry, English I, and English II. For students who take Geometry prior to high school, the required high school mathematics assessment is Algebra II."


So then the Algebra II scores are really the 9th graders taking Algebra II which means there is none in this category at McKinley
Anonymous
Post 03/02/2026 19:06     Subject: Seeking info on McKinley Tech HS

Anonymous wrote:If a student takes Alg 1 in 9th grade, they take both Geometry and Alg 2 in 10th grade.

Those taking Geometry in 9th have the option of doubling up on Alg 2 and Pre-Calc in 10th, or taking an extra elective.

-current parent


I don’t like above at all. Doubling up math in the same year is not ideal and does not maximize learning.