Anonymous wrote:At HM the incredible exmissions are legacies, super rich kids (HHI over a 10 million a year or major family money), off the chart smart kids (you might think this is your kid, but it probably isn't), athletes, FGLI and minorities. Which is a huge portion of the class. But there are plenty of kids who are none of these and they fade into the woodwork at HM.

I was a non-minority non-athletic non-legacy faculty kid at a middling Midwestern private school and would have absolutely been in this category at HM; at my school I was the smart kid and took advantage of some neat resume-bolstering opportunities and ended up getting into both of the Ivies I applied to.

I can't necessarily promise that would happen at a lower-ranked school in NYC because geographic competition is a concern too, and even at Fieldston you're competing with the billionaire / celebrity kids who weren't smart enough to get into Riverdale, but if we stipulate that private school can make a difference in the options for a given kid, then unless your kid is a rock star who was going to get in everywhere anyway, a lower-ranked school will probably do at least as good a job of packaging them as HM/Trinity/Dalton/Brearley would.

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Anonymous wrote:Less likely to get a BB analyst offer from Stuy. Go to the TT and work the alumni network. It’s not comparable.

OK but how is the unconnected non-plutocrat kid going to take advantage of that network at a place like HM?

By befriending rich kids. Sell them drugs. Date them. Throw a party at your house when your parents are gone. Do whatever it takes to hop into bed with them

OK. Here's the situation. My parents went away on a week's vacation.

Precisely. You hook up the GS MD’s son with some oxy and you’ll be setup with a sweet internship at Apollo in no time

Only if they left the keys to the brand new Porsche. Would they mind?

Um. Well. Of course not.

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Anonymous wrote:Less likely to get a BB analyst offer from Stuy. Go to the TT and work the alumni network. It’s not comparable.

OK but how is the unconnected non-plutocrat kid going to take advantage of that network at a place like HM?

By befriending rich kids. Sell them drugs. Date them. Throw a party at your house when your parents are gone. Do whatever it takes to hop into bed with them

OK. Here's the situation. My parents went away on a week's vacation.

Precisely. You hook up the GS MD’s son with some oxy and you’ll be setup with a sweet internship at Apollo in no time

Only if they left the keys to the brand new Porsche. Would they mind?

Take it out for a spin. Make sure to reverse the odometer afterward.

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Anonymous wrote:Less likely to get a BB analyst offer from Stuy. Go to the TT and work the alumni network. It’s not comparable.

OK but how is the unconnected non-plutocrat kid going to take advantage of that network at a place like HM?

By befriending rich kids. Sell them drugs. Date them. Throw a party at your house when your parents are gone. Do whatever it takes to hop into bed with them

OK. Here's the situation. My parents went away on a week's vacation.

Precisely. You hook up the GS MD’s son with some oxy and you’ll be setup with a sweet internship at Apollo in no time

Only if they left the keys to the brand new Porsche. Would they mind?

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Anonymous wrote:Less likely to get a BB analyst offer from Stuy. Go to the TT and work the alumni network. It’s not comparable.

OK but how is the unconnected non-plutocrat kid going to take advantage of that network at a place like HM?

By befriending rich kids. Sell them drugs. Date them. Throw a party at your house when your parents are gone. Do whatever it takes to hop into bed with them

OK. Here's the situation. My parents went away on a week's vacation.

Precisely. You hook up the GS MD’s son with some oxy and you’ll be setup with a sweet internship at Apollo in no time

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Anonymous wrote:Less likely to get a BB analyst offer from Stuy. Go to the TT and work the alumni network. It’s not comparable.

OK but how is the unconnected non-plutocrat kid going to take advantage of that network at a place like HM?

By befriending rich kids. Sell them drugs. Date them. Throw a party at your house when your parents are gone. Do whatever it takes to hop into bed with them

OK. Here's the situation. My parents went away on a week's vacation.

At HM the incredible exmissions are legacies, super rich kids (HHI over a 10 million a year or major family money), off the chart smart kids (you might think this is your kid, but it probably isn't), athletes, FGLI and minorities. Which is a huge portion of the class. But there are plenty of kids who are none of these and they fade into the woodwork at HM.

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Anonymous wrote:Less likely to get a BB analyst offer from Stuy. Go to the TT and work the alumni network. It’s not comparable.

OK but how is the unconnected non-plutocrat kid going to take advantage of that network at a place like HM?

By befriending rich kids. Sell them drugs. Date them. Throw a party at your house when your parents are gone. Do whatever it takes to hop into bed with them

Anonymous wrote:Less likely to get a BB analyst offer from Stuy. Go to the TT and work the alumni network. It’s not comparable.

OK but how is the unconnected non-plutocrat kid going to take advantage of that network at a place like HM?

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Anonymous wrote:If they aren’t a legacy though, HM will give them more resources to get in. Individualized attention, tailored recs, unique sports not on offer at Stuy. HM polishes students to get into top colleges.

Sure, but you can get the same support from a private admissions consultant - and pay for whatever outside activities they recommend to bolster their application - for a lot less than $280k.

Less likely to get a BB analyst offer from Stuy. Go to the TT and work the alumni network. It’s not comparable.

(And if your smart kid isn’t part of the Muffy Buffy Hamptons set they’ll probably also get along better with the SHSAT kids)

Anonymous wrote:If they aren’t a legacy though, HM will give them more resources to get in. Individualized attention, tailored recs, unique sports not on offer at Stuy. HM polishes students to get into top colleges.

Sure, but you can get the same support from a private admissions consultant - and pay for whatever outside activities they recommend to bolster their application - for a lot less than $280k.

Anonymous wrote:I don't think matriculation is an apples-to-apples comparison; fewer SHSAT students have connections to top colleges and fewer of them can afford to go to one.

If your child is a Harvard legacy and your family can afford to send them to Harvard, their odds of getting into Harvard are going to be pretty much the same whether they go to HM or Stuy.

If they aren’t a legacy though, HM will give them more resources to get in. Individualized attention, tailored recs, unique sports not on offer at Stuy. HM polishes students to get into top colleges.

I don't think matriculation is an apples-to-apples comparison; fewer SHSAT students have connections to top colleges and fewer of them can afford to go to one.

If your child is a Harvard legacy and your family can afford to send them to Harvard, their odds of getting into Harvard are going to be pretty much the same whether they go to HM or Stuy.

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Anonymous wrote:It is more difficult to get into a top college from a TT private because they don’t grade inflate and your peers are smarter so worse curve. Lots of dolts at Stuy being carted off to SUNY Whatever

That's literally the opposite of the truth, the grade inflation and dolts are mostly private school phenomena, you're doing Opposite Day.

The TT matriculation in every quartile and decile is way better than Stuy and Bronx Science. That goes for the financial aid kids too.

This is true about matriculation. calling Stuy shit is unfair. Nevertheless, if those TT privates like Trinity were free, almost anyone would choose them over Stuy if they had both admits in hand.