Anonymous
Post 07/03/2024 13:59     Subject: Overwhelmed with moving to MCPS
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:We are considering a move to MCPS from a small school district in the PNW. I am incredibly overwhelmed with all the schools and options.

I have one kid in middle school and one in elementary. Both are neurodivergent. Older kid is a high performer in all areas; was in the gifted program in her previous district. Younger kid is strong in math, not reading, and has other special needs.

It seems we are too late to get into magnet programs, and it’s difficult to find out about the honors and elective offerings for middle school.

I’m trying to decide what areas to focus on and I’m overwhelmed. We don’t have the budget for the top-performing areas. I keep finding articles about fights and drugs and weapons, and I’m nervous about safety.

Which schools or areas should I look into?

Some areas we are considering based on current research are:
-Takoma Park
-Four Corners
-Olney
-Damascus
-Clarksburg
-Urbana (not in MCPS and would be a longer than ideal commute, but seems to have a strong school system with less red-tape to navigate)


You must be kidding!

No to Damascus and olney and Clarksburg. All are too maga morons.

Look you want good schools W clusters or possibly Quince Orchid.

Otherwise move to Howard county. Better schools at this moment in time.

+1


Clarksburg too maga???? Clearly you don’t know anything about the Clarksburg area. Clarksburg is so diverse.
Anonymous
Post 07/03/2024 13:34     Subject: Overwhelmed with moving to MCPS
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:OP I would strongly recommend you go for the best schools you can find and live in rented accommodation if necessary.

We lived in Bethesda for about 10 yrs and knew plenty of people who had moved there from places like Takoma Park which are great places to live, with beautiful old houses, but without adequate schooling.

The poster who said you need schools where rich parents wield influence, is correct. That is where you will find the most resources for your children.


As a teacher, I would have to agree with the influence factor of parents in Bethesda. School administrators are more responsive to parents there and if you don't yet have IEPs for your students, and believe you need not only the IEPs, but the actual services that go along with IEPs, then move to Bethesda if you can. I teach in a Title I school. It takes a really long time for students to obtain IEPs. And then, nothing changes. They remain in the same classrooms with no interventions except reporting from classroom teachers on "progress."


But there are many more choices than just "Bethesda" or "Title I schools."


Bethesda (and other wealthy areas) parents, as a group, carry more social and political capital than that of parents from other schools, especially Title I schools. That critical mass of capital sways their school administrators to being reflexively more responsive to special needs students.
Anonymous
Post 07/03/2024 13:34     Subject: Overwhelmed with moving to MCPS
OP here: Thank you, thank you, thank you to everyone who took the time to reply! I got so much great info out of the comments, and really do feel better about the move. We may go the rental route, but either way, I feel way more prepared and less nervous about this overall.

Oh, and for those who posted about the political leanings in certain areas, that was also helpful. We live in a part of the PNW that has some strong Proud Boys ties and part of our reason for moving is to get away from that, so it’s good to know that we might encounter that as we head further out of the city. Others had told us that was not really the case. I guess just another reason to be on the ground before we choose a more permanent home!
Anonymous
Post 07/03/2024 13:24     Subject: Overwhelmed with moving to MCPS
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:We are considering a move to MCPS from a small school district in the PNW. I am incredibly overwhelmed with all the schools and options.

I have one kid in middle school and one in elementary. Both are neurodivergent. Older kid is a high performer in all areas; was in the gifted program in her previous district. Younger kid is strong in math, not reading, and has other special needs.

It seems we are too late to get into magnet programs, and it’s difficult to find out about the honors and elective offerings for middle school.

I’m trying to decide what areas to focus on and I’m overwhelmed. We don’t have the budget for the top-performing areas. I keep finding articles about fights and drugs and weapons, and I’m nervous about safety.

Which schools or areas should I look into?

Some areas we are considering based on current research are:
-Takoma Park
-Four Corners
-Olney
-Damascus
-Clarksburg
-Urbana (not in MCPS and would be a longer than ideal commute, but seems to have a strong school system with less red-tape to navigate)


You must be kidding!

No to Damascus and olney and Clarksburg. All are too maga morons.

Look you want good schools W clusters or possibly Quince Orchid.

Otherwise move to Howard county. Better schools at this moment in time.

+1
Anonymous
Post 07/03/2024 13:08     Subject: Overwhelmed with moving to MCPS
I would concur with those recommending renting. Even aside from the special needs issues, the DC area has a million small neighborhoods and enclaves and it will be really tough for you to know what you want. Rent in a location where you could afford to buy (and not switch schools) if you like the area. But it gives you an option. Plus, interest/mortgage rates will be lower a year from now.


Also, i think it was made clear above. But the magnet programs at the HS level are not lottery, but they're very hard to get into (and really tough when you get there). It's not a matter of qualifiying; it's a matter of being in the top 100 (or so) applicants.
Anonymous
Post 07/03/2024 12:01     Subject: Overwhelmed with moving to MCPS
Just a quick vote for Four Corners and agreement with the poster who said you need to take everything with a grain of salt on this site. Love this area, my son was zoned for Eastern, but goes to Parkland (choice based lottery) and is thriving. There are so many good options here.
Anonymous
Post 07/03/2024 11:38     Subject: Overwhelmed with moving to MCPS
Anonymous wrote:We are considering a move to MCPS from a small school district in the PNW. I am incredibly overwhelmed with all the schools and options.

I have one kid in middle school and one in elementary. Both are neurodivergent. Older kid is a high performer in all areas; was in the gifted program in her previous district. Younger kid is strong in math, not reading, and has other special needs.

It seems we are too late to get into magnet programs, and it’s difficult to find out about the honors and elective offerings for middle school.

I’m trying to decide what areas to focus on and I’m overwhelmed. We don’t have the budget for the top-performing areas. I keep finding articles about fights and drugs and weapons, and I’m nervous about safety.

Which schools or areas should I look into?

Some areas we are considering based on current research are:
-Takoma Park
-Four Corners
-Olney
-Damascus
-Clarksburg
-Urbana (not in MCPS and would be a longer than ideal commute, but seems to have a strong school system with less red-tape to navigate)


Anything here?:
https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/632710.page
Anonymous
Post 07/03/2024 11:30     Subject: Overwhelmed with moving to MCPS
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Four corners is good for ES. Pinecrest ES is excellent. Eastern MS' great strength is its magnet. Takoma Park has city and county taxes - be prepared to pay on that score if that is a concern. TPES and Piney Branch ES are good, but overcrowded. Takoma Park MS is excellent.

I don't know much about the other areas.



Am I correct in my understanding that kids who are zoned for the school but not in the magnet do not have access to the magnet classes? So it’s almost like two “schools” in one building?


I think that's correct in ES. Don't know about MS. At Blair, if students demonstrated they could do the math and science, they were welcomed into individual magnet classes.


The question is about TPMS and no you cannot take magnet classes if you are not in the magnet. You can in Blair if you meet the prerequisites but few do
Anonymous
Post 07/03/2024 11:27     Subject: Overwhelmed with moving to MCPS
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:Check out special programs. You don't need to live in-bounds of that cluster, but if you live too far, the school bus will take a long time to get there. Would your kids qualify for the GT/LD program of MCPS? Gifted, talented and learning disabled. They require an IEP and a certain IQ score. My son was in the GT/LD program at North Bethesda MS then Walter Johnson HS. Houses are expensive there, but maybe you could buy a townhome, a condo, or live further north, in Rockville?


Neither have an IEP yet. Younger kid would probably qualify at some point (next year will be his first year in public school). Older kid did not qualify in previous school district.

It seems that all of the special programs are lottery, correct? So there’s a chance of not getting in?

We cannot afford a private school in that area, so I’m hesitant to count on a possible lottery without a good backup option.


No, not the special needs ones. If you qualify with the right diagnosis, etc, you're in. The 4th-5th grade CES (center for enriched studies) and middle and high school magnets, yes, those you need to prequalify by having decent MAP test scores, but then it's a lottery and plenty of bright kids don't get picked.

Perhaps you could call the division of special programs (not sure of the name) and inquire.

Your kids have current neuropsychological assessments? As in, in the past 4 years? To get an IEP they will need to see those reports.

Slight correction : High School magnets are not lotteries.


So are they just open to all who apply and qualify?


Qualify? You mean be a teachers pet to the teacher teaching the subject for which you want to magent in? Ok.


Huh? Teachers have no say in who gets in.
Anonymous
Post 07/03/2024 11:25     Subject: Overwhelmed with moving to MCPS
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Four corners is good for ES. Pinecrest ES is excellent. Eastern MS' great strength is its magnet. Takoma Park has city and county taxes - be prepared to pay on that score if that is a concern. TPES and Piney Branch ES are good, but overcrowded. Takoma Park MS is excellent.

I don't know much about the other areas.



Am I correct in my understanding that kids who are zoned for the school but not in the magnet do not have access to the magnet classes? So it’s almost like two “schools” in one building?


It is correct that there is no access to the magnet classes for non magnet kids but it is not correct that it is like two schools. Magnet kids are mixed with everyone else for non magnet classes and the school works hard to make it clear that it is one school!
Anonymous
Post 07/03/2024 11:21     Subject: Overwhelmed with moving to MCPS
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:OP I would strongly recommend you go for the best schools you can find and live in rented accommodation if necessary.

We lived in Bethesda for about 10 yrs and knew plenty of people who had moved there from places like Takoma Park which are great places to live, with beautiful old houses, but without adequate schooling.

The poster who said you need schools where rich parents wield influence, is correct. That is where you will find the most resources for your children.


As a teacher, I would have to agree with the influence factor of parents in Bethesda. School administrators are more responsive to parents there and if you don't yet have IEPs for your students, and believe you need not only the IEPs, but the actual services that go along with IEPs, then move to Bethesda if you can. I teach in a Title I school. It takes a really long time for students to obtain IEPs. And then, nothing changes. They remain in the same classrooms with no interventions except reporting from classroom teachers on "progress."


But there are many more choices than just "Bethesda" or "Title I schools."
Anonymous
Post 07/03/2024 11:04     Subject: Overwhelmed with moving to MCPS
Anonymous wrote:OP I would strongly recommend you go for the best schools you can find and live in rented accommodation if necessary.

We lived in Bethesda for about 10 yrs and knew plenty of people who had moved there from places like Takoma Park which are great places to live, with beautiful old houses, but without adequate schooling.

The poster who said you need schools where rich parents wield influence, is correct. That is where you will find the most resources for your children.


As a teacher, I would have to agree with the influence factor of parents in Bethesda. School administrators are more responsive to parents there and if you don't yet have IEPs for your students, and believe you need not only the IEPs, but the actual services that go along with IEPs, then move to Bethesda if you can. I teach in a Title I school. It takes a really long time for students to obtain IEPs. And then, nothing changes. They remain in the same classrooms with no interventions except reporting from classroom teachers on "progress."
Anonymous
Post 07/03/2024 10:58     Subject: Overwhelmed with moving to MCPS
There are good schools all over MCPS despite what DCUM would have you believe. If you’re an engaged parent, which it seems you are, your children will likely be fine. Choose an area you like where you can afford to live and can tolerate the commute. Only you know what factors matter most in terms of home style, size, amenities in neighborhood and surrounding community, diversity, etc.


If you need information about Spec Ed, MCPS has a wealth of it on their site. Like anywhere Spec Ed is going to take some work and involvement on your part. Come prepared with documentation from your current school district and any doctor evaluations/recommendations/diagnosis and be sure to speak up as you are your child’s best advocate.

https://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/departments/special-education/

https://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/departments/special-education/secac/

And for the record the are people who like living in Damascus and Clarksburg just as much as some like living in Rockville or Bethesda.

Anonymous
Post 07/03/2024 10:43     Subject: Overwhelmed with moving to MCPS
OP I would strongly recommend you go for the best schools you can find and live in rented accommodation if necessary.

We lived in Bethesda for about 10 yrs and knew plenty of people who had moved there from places like Takoma Park which are great places to live, with beautiful old houses, but without adequate schooling.

The poster who said you need schools where rich parents wield influence, is correct. That is where you will find the most resources for your children.
Anonymous
Post 07/03/2024 10:41     Subject: Overwhelmed with moving to MCPS
Anonymous wrote:We are considering a move to MCPS from a small school district in the PNW. I am incredibly overwhelmed with all the schools and options.

I have one kid in middle school and one in elementary. Both are neurodivergent. Older kid is a high performer in all areas; was in the gifted program in her previous district. Younger kid is strong in math, not reading, and has other special needs.

It seems we are too late to get into magnet programs, and it’s difficult to find out about the honors and elective offerings for middle school.

I’m trying to decide what areas to focus on and I’m overwhelmed. We don’t have the budget for the top-performing areas. I keep finding articles about fights and drugs and weapons, and I’m nervous about safety.

Which schools or areas should I look into?

Some areas we are considering based on current research are:
-Takoma Park
-Four Corners
-Olney
-Damascus
-Clarksburg
-Urbana (not in MCPS and would be a longer than ideal commute, but seems to have a strong school system with less red-tape to navigate)
What's you political leaning? Areas of MoCo are quite divided. For instance, Damascus has a lot of MAGA rednecks while Takoma Park has a lot of insane purple-haired leftists.