Anonymous wrote:I do like San Fran.

Haven’t been in many years.

Poop story is GROSS!

+100
That is, indeed, a "dystopian hellscape."

Anonymous wrote:Was this post satire?

+1
My thoughts exactly. A disgusting description of the poop being smeared around all over - but it was a great trip! Really!
No thanks.

My daughter lives there and we visit frequently. Never had a problem. Just as you would avoid Anacostia...avoid The Tenderloin. Turn off Fox News and get out and explore. Or, stay in your MAGA he'll holes.

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Anonymous wrote:We'll be there for two days in April and will report back.

Please do. We have one story of human feces on torso and in hair.
Wanna see if we can get some deep stats on human feces in SFO.

Actually, looking back at the OP, I want to know how they knew the feces were human. Gonna need an investigation.

Anonymous wrote:We'll be there for two days in April and will report back.

Please do. We have one story of human feces on torso and in hair.
Wanna see if we can get some deep stats on human feces in SFO.

It is not an accident that substantial chunks of Silicon Valley are relocating to Austin. Quality of life is better for the employees and their families. Operating costs are lower for companies. School options are at least as good as Silicon Valley.

Long time Austin residents are understandably upset that their housing costs are skyrocketing, however,

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Anonymous wrote:Sorry but you could not PAY me to set foot anywhere in California. What a hell hole. And I lived there for three years.

Are you talking physically or politically?

DP. California native and I am totally apolitical. General quality of life for residents is not that great now (I have no idea what it was like say 50 years ago) and cost of living is high in most of the state. And it really IS the land of natural disasters. Monsoon rains in winter, droughts, Blizzards in the Donner Pass, Santa Ana winds, earthquakes, wild fires, and more. Best thing I have done for my quality of life was to leave and move to someplace with a more reasonable cost of living, 4 seasons, adequate rain but without floods or droughts, and good job options.

Anonymous wrote:I also recently visited San Francisco and had a lovely trip like you. I was pleasantly surprised as I was expecting a lot worse. Actually, the homeless problem and everything is more visible here in DC.

I had the opposite impression. Neither was that bad, but I saw more driving through down town SF than here.

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Anonymous wrote:I don't get why you'd choose to spend a couple days in SF when you could choose to spend them in Monterey or Carmel. Or Capitola. Or Napa. Or literally any of these places that are like 1 hour from SF.

I’m the PP who is going in April. We’ve been to Monterey and Carmel, as well as Laguna Beach, Dana Point, etc., in the past few years. We’ll have our kids with us so Napa seems meh. We’ll go there when the kids are gone.

Pp you're responding to. I took my kids to SF in 2019 and haven't taken them back since. It was becoming much darker and grittier by 2019, and it's infinitely worse now. Be very, very careful. I personally have never been attacked yet in SF, but know many people who have. And I don't mean people with "vibrant" social lives-- I mean normal, boring middle aged tech industry people. One friend was beaten terribly right outside his hotel, and he couldn't get to his key card to badge into the front of the hotel. The doorman just watched as he suffered a brutal assault, didn't call the cops or security. You truly take your life into your hands. I am not saying not to go-- but I am telling you not to disregard all the warnings. Especially not with your kids.

Anonymous wrote:Sorry but you could not PAY me to set foot anywhere in California. What a hell hole. And I lived there for three years.

Are you talking physically or politically?

I was there for a week in November, mostly downtown in Union Square area. I'm from NYC so I'm used to seeing mentally ill homeless people on the streets, but...my god. SF was on another level. You had to be buzzed in to all the shops (Vuitton etc) in the area because of that, and crime.

Having said that there was still a lot of beauty, good food and things to do, and I enjoyed my time there.

We'll be there for two days in April and will report back.

Anonymous wrote:Not fooling anyone OP. SF is a dump.

Exactly. Plus 1.

I live on the peninsula now (moved from DC almost a decade ago) and don’t know if I don’t like the city because I don’t know it, or don’t know it because I don’t like it. We have a membership at the exploratorium and I love that and a friend and I go to a few musicals each year but otherwise I generally don’t go in. When I do the homeless problem and the parking challenges and the car break ins all get me a bit stressed. The last few times I went to the city was for my older DD’s soccer games. Some are in Golden Gate Park which is beautiful. I think of what I did on a visit 20 years ago and realize neither of my kids has ever been to the Presidio or the De Young museum and the younger one has never been to pier 39. We do other things in the area (just hiked out at Ano Nuevo to see the elephant seals) generally.

I periodically Bart to work in Oakland (generally I work at home). A month ago as we came through San Francisco a man across from me was injecting himself (drugs? Insulin? Who knows but I assume the former). At first I just ignored it, but decided to move to a different car. I haven’t typically had that experience. Even in the subburbs though we’ve found used needles before and one day a homeless woman was asleep on the sidewalk with her dress pulled up and her naked butt exposed. I was appalled that some people were laughing, pointing, and even taking pictures but I was worried the woman would be harassed by the police if I called them so I didn’t really know what to do.

I loved our trip last summer, but the homeless situation was not good. We stayed at a nice hotel, specifically not where homeless issue is supposed to be bad because I researched it, and a homeless guy still came at us when we got out of our Uber as we got to the hotel. Another one chased us down the street screaming. That is just the personal experiences we had, in addition to just seeing a lot of homeless people out of their minds on drugs. Whole areas of the city were entirely deserted even on work days. I have no idea how SF is not doing something to remedy the situation. It is very sad as it's such a gorgeous city.