Anonymous
Post 01/27/2024 20:28     Subject: DC learner’s permit knowledge test failure

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Anonymous wrote:So tell him to read it over and over. And if you're paying for him to take the test, stop. Let him pay to take it.


Christ almighty, people. Not everything has to have a punitive lesson. Not paying for his test is absurd. I'm sure he doesn't WANT to fail.


And yet, he clearly doesn't WANT to pass enough to study more/differently than he has been.

Maybe he doesn't know how.
Maybe he isn't learning the material well.
Maybe he is a bad test taker.

There are several other options behond "he doesn't WANT" to pass.

Give the kid a god damn break.
Anonymous
Post 01/27/2024 18:00     Subject: DC learner’s permit knowledge test failure

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Anonymous wrote:Sounds like you are not doing the practice tests with him? Do them together. Discuss and point out ways he can remember things.


Disagree. if the kid can't study for, take and pass the test without Mommy's help then he's not ready to be driving anyway.


Awful person alert.

Uhhhh you know he can literally kill somebody driving, right?


You don’t have a dyslexic child, do you?

I would feel terrible if I enabled a kid who was showing signs of inability to get a driver's license and s/he killed somebody or got themselves killed. No A for effort here.
Anonymous
Post 01/27/2024 17:26     Subject: Re:DC learner’s permit knowledge test failure

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Anonymous wrote:He shouldn't be driving if he can't even pass on the first try. Maybe wait until he's older and try again. The knowledge test is equal to common sense. Failing 3 times says a lot about your son.


Not OP. You're a horrible human being to say this about another person, especially a minor.
I have been driving since the 80s & I couldn't tell you how many feet to start signaling, or what a Dutch reach is, or how many pounds a child should be to not be in a car seat.
Guess what? I've never once been in an accident.
It's not all common sense.


DP, the other poster should have been kinder, but he/she is right. Nothing in the DC (or VA/MD) driving manual is complicated or anything beyond basic safety information. If you don’t know how many feet to start signaling, how long it takes to brake in regular/wet/snowy conditions, what traffic signs mean, or other basic information contained in the manual I would suggest that you brush up on it. BTW the Dutch reach just refers to using the hand across your body from the door to open the car door so you are turning your body to check behind you for incoming traffic. We have a serious automobile safety issue across this country, and a major reason for this is because people act like because they passed a basic safety test when they were 16 they are “good drivers.” We should be making people test every 2-5 years, and I think we all would be very alarmed at the number of people who don’t even understand basic safety information.

To the OP: your teen has failed the knowledge test three times. I’m not going to blame you or him, but it might be time to put this on the back burner for a year or two and outline a strategy for studying the manual. What works best for him in school? What tools are most helpful for him? Does he succeed with flash cards? Repetition? Practical example? There are tons of options, and ways to make it more interactive. You now have a year to outline a plan, which should be plenty of time to develop and implement a strategy that will put him in a better position to succeed.
Anonymous
Post 01/27/2024 15:03     Subject: DC learner’s permit knowledge test failure

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:So tell him to read it over and over. And if you're paying for him to take the test, stop. Let him pay to take it.


Christ almighty, people. Not everything has to have a punitive lesson. Not paying for his test is absurd. I'm sure he doesn't WANT to fail.


And yet, he clearly doesn't WANT to pass enough to study more/differently than he has been.
Anonymous
Post 01/27/2024 14:50     Subject: DC learner’s permit knowledge test failure

Anonymous wrote:My son has failed the knowledge test 3 times now. In general he is not a good test taker. What did your kids do to prepare? He says he has been doing the practice tests online and passes but I don't think he has done a comprehensive read of the manual. I think this is where he needs to focus...read it over and over.


I had our teen do the 30 Hours of drivers ed classes first and that made the drivers permit test very easy.

They go over the material on blocks of relevance and offer daily mini tests. They also discuss modern approach to teaching teens is emphasizing driving safely and not taking foolish risks rather than remembering many random rules.
Anonymous
Post 01/26/2024 13:59     Subject: DC learner’s permit knowledge test failure

Anonymous wrote:I don't know any kid who failed the permit test. It's not hard.
And frankly, if your kid can't pass the permit test, he should not be on the road.


Sometimes it is hard; sometimes it isn't. My DC, although very bright and a NMSF, failed it once. He remembered the ones he missed and quizzed me on them, and I couldn't answer them - obscure and strange questions. The second time, he came out after only a few minutes, having flown through it and passed, laughing because the second time the questions he pulled were so much easier and straight forward than the first version.

Don't pat yourself on the back for drawing all the easy questions.
Anonymous
Post 01/26/2024 13:54     Subject: DC learner’s permit knowledge test failure

Give him confidence by reminding him that the questions on the test are randomly generated. Sometimes you get all the easy questions, sometimes you pull a test with enough of the 'trip up' questions that you fail. One of these times he's going to pull the easy test and pass.

But also, yes read the whole book. Don't take him back until he passes a practice test at home. Then pray for a good randomization!
Anonymous
Post 01/26/2024 13:51     Subject: DC learner’s permit knowledge test failure

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Sounds like you are not doing the practice tests with him? Do them together. Discuss and point out ways he can remember things.


Disagree. if the kid can't study for, take and pass the test without Mommy's help then he's not ready to be driving anyway.


Awful person alert.

Uhhhh you know he can literally kill somebody driving, right?


You don’t have a dyslexic child, do you?


WTF does that mean?
If your child can't handle driving, they don’t get to drive. Driving is a privilege not a basic right. None of the rules you are used to in the school system apply when it comes to getting a driver's license.

I hope you are feeling judged, because I think you are the awful person here



My child can handle driving. They just learned how to do it in a different way - in the more collaborative way they learn most things.

My kid is the dyslexic mentioned above who passed both the written and road tests on the first try. They are an excellent driver.
Anonymous
Post 01/26/2024 13:10     Subject: DC learner’s permit knowledge test failure

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Anonymous wrote:Sheesh, people. Most of you came of age in a time and/or place when the test was a lot easier. The present-day test, at least in Virginia, requires a lot more study and memorization of sometimes obscure topics. Many of you would not pass this test if it were administered to you today. And yet, there you are out there on the road.


Exactly!! Everyone is acting like this kid is going to be an awful driver because he doesn't know the deer crossing sign. Like calm the F down


Seems like you are the one who needs to calm down. Kid's going to be an awful driver because he is not motivated to learn as per OP's post.


Girl you need to get laid. You are every negative post here


Nice
Anonymous
Post 01/26/2024 12:42     Subject: DC learner’s permit knowledge test failure

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Sheesh, people. Most of you came of age in a time and/or place when the test was a lot easier. The present-day test, at least in Virginia, requires a lot more study and memorization of sometimes obscure topics. Many of you would not pass this test if it were administered to you today. And yet, there you are out there on the road.


Exactly!! Everyone is acting like this kid is going to be an awful driver because he doesn't know the deer crossing sign. Like calm the F down


Seems like you are the one who needs to calm down. Kid's going to be an awful driver because he is not motivated to learn as per OP's post.


Girl you need to get laid. You are every negative post here
Anonymous
Post 01/26/2024 12:36     Subject: DC learner’s permit knowledge test failure

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Sheesh, people. Most of you came of age in a time and/or place when the test was a lot easier. The present-day test, at least in Virginia, requires a lot more study and memorization of sometimes obscure topics. Many of you would not pass this test if it were administered to you today. And yet, there you are out there on the road.


Exactly!! Everyone is acting like this kid is going to be an awful driver because he doesn't know the deer crossing sign. Like calm the F down


Seems like you are the one who needs to calm down. Kid's going to be an awful driver because he is not motivated to learn as per OP's post.
Anonymous
Post 01/26/2024 12:03     Subject: DC learner’s permit knowledge test failure

I don't know any kid who failed the permit test. It's not hard.
And frankly, if your kid can't pass the permit test, he should not be on the road.
Anonymous
Post 01/26/2024 11:27     Subject: DC learner’s permit knowledge test failure

Anonymous wrote:Sheesh, people. Most of you came of age in a time and/or place when the test was a lot easier. The present-day test, at least in Virginia, requires a lot more study and memorization of sometimes obscure topics. Many of you would not pass this test if it were administered to you today. And yet, there you are out there on the road.


Exactly!! Everyone is acting like this kid is going to be an awful driver because he doesn't know the deer crossing sign. Like calm the F down
Anonymous
Post 01/26/2024 10:57     Subject: DC learner’s permit knowledge test failure

Anonymous wrote:He's not even trying except if he failed by one question. Go over it with him.

Out of curiosity, without studying my 14 year old, almost passed but missed it by 1-2 questions. The test isn't that hard.


In VA if you fail one of the 10 signs, in that portion, you fail. And some of those sign are silly ones that i've never seen in my entire life. It can be confusing.
Anonymous
Post 01/26/2024 10:56     Subject: DC learner’s permit knowledge test failure

Anonymous wrote:So tell him to read it over and over. And if you're paying for him to take the test, stop. Let him pay to take it.


Christ almighty, people. Not everything has to have a punitive lesson. Not paying for his test is absurd. I'm sure he doesn't WANT to fail.