Anonymous wrote:Odd post. Chinese cities are really bad. Public bathrooms are disgusting. In the US homeless make messes but in China it’s the average citizen. The smell, especially body odor and general lack of hygiene is quite bad as well. Chinese culture does not value cleanliness.

Cites in India have massive poverty but in areas that have the infrastructure, people are clean.

I’d agree that Tokyo and Singapore are cleaner with better services but the larger Asian countries are not.

Anonymous wrote:Not even gonna bring Europe into this since their “urbanism” is village/college campus vibes

I mean Shanghai, Hong Kong, Tokyo, Singapore, shenzen, Beijing, Seoul, Jakarta, Taipei, Bangkok etc

Asian cities are amazing

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Anonymous wrote:Sheesh you get arrested in Singapore for littering.

And this is fundamentally why many Asian cities are so nice, orderly and clean.

Severe punishment for even the tiniest infractions, along with a strong desire to not bring dishonor on your family.

If the US had these two elements, we’d be just as orderly, clean and safe as Shanghai. But we don’t. We have generations of people raised by single parents, and we coddle and revere our criminal class, and protest when the police hurt their feelings.

This country is a dumpster fire and it’s our own fault.

The parts of DC or NYC I frequent as commuter is nice and clean enough without punishment for small things. Totalitarian countries have you walk on egg shells your whole life, clean streets in exchange for artistic pursuits, personal empowerment and innovation, that’s why we have better design, better tech and better working conditions.

Creative innovation = better in the West
Execution = better in the East

is how I see it as an Asian.

This used to be true. But, not any more.

South Korea is leagues ahead of the US in terms of high tech gadgets. They were forced to be because of the lack of space. Those Asian countries that OP cited are much smaller and densely populated than American cities, so they've had to find creative ways to make living in tiny spaces easier.

In South Korea, you are limited to a small bin for rubbish. I have a huge trash can for my rubbish. So, they've had to come up with more creative ways to live.

Tiny ≠ better.