Anonymous wrote:Everyone I know on Philly suburbs uses private schools. Everyone I know from pa who went public school seems a little bit middle to lower middle class.

I lol. You know nothing about Philly suburbs, which is fine, but then just keep quiet

Anonymous wrote:Philly has phenomenal food. DC has fancy overpriced restaurants with mediocre food.

Philly is a great sports town. DC, not so much.

DC wins in jobs and economy hands down but you have high COL to go with it.

Philly has a soul. Sometimes it’s mean and dirty but it’s real and has character and this is evident in many neighborhoods. Name me a single DC neighborhood with soul.

DC people tend to be cold and elitist (whether it be education, job, and/or wealth). Philly people can be rough around the edges but the elitism is absent. I would also consider the people in Philly cold/aloof.

Philly is more accessible to regular people. DC caters more to the educated and wealthy.

City neighborhoods in DC are significantly greener and less dense. I’d prefer walking around in DC compared to Philly.

DC people think of Philly as lesser. Philly people don’t think about DC (they sit in the shadows on NYC).

The restaurants are phenomenal. The sports are amazing. Philly has great healthcare too. Much like a mini-NYC but more affordable.

DD is at Penn for grad school and loves it, including the grit.

Philly has phenomenal food. DC has fancy overpriced restaurants with mediocre food.

Philly is a great sports town. DC, not so much.

DC wins in jobs and economy hands down but you have high COL to go with it.

Philly has a soul. Sometimes it’s mean and dirty but it’s real and has character and this is evident in many neighborhoods. Name me a single DC neighborhood with soul.

DC people tend to be cold and elitist (whether it be education, job, and/or wealth). Philly people can be rough around the edges but the elitism is absent. I would also consider the people in Philly cold/aloof.

Philly is more accessible to regular people. DC caters more to the educated and wealthy.

City neighborhoods in DC are significantly greener and less dense. I’d prefer walking around in DC compared to Philly.

DC people think of Philly as lesser. Philly people don’t think about DC (they sit in the shadows on NYC).

Anonymous wrote:Everyone I know on Philly suburbs uses private schools. Everyone I know from pa who went public school seems a little bit middle to lower middle class.

Philly suburbs have great public schools

Anonymous wrote:The Eagles can suck a dick

Laughing in Bucks County.

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Anonymous wrote:To call the Philly area “majority Italian American immigrants” is bizarre. The city itself is bigger than DC but the metro area is smaller. The city has a larger Latino and Asian population and smaller white and Black populations, and a slightly higher immigrant population (not from Italy lol). It’s not as young, single or educated. The suburbs especially past a certain distance from Center City are less diverse but that’s in part because the metro area is smaller and more focused on the urban core.

That PP has clearly never been to Philly. Lolol

And it shows! Love my Italian south philly friends!

Everyone I know on Philly suburbs uses private schools. Everyone I know from pa who went public school seems a little bit middle to lower middle class.

Anonymous wrote:Philly suburbs are still better value than CC/Bethesda but have appreciated a lot in past 3 years. Beautiful old stone colonials that would be $3-4M+ in DC in neighborhoods that look like Edgemoor or better were $1-1.5 until recently. Honestly main line is the last place left outside the Midwest to find a beautiful house in a top school district at a price 1-2 professionals can afford in close proximity to major cities.

Also, Philly has the best restaurant scene in the country, and also a good music & great classical music scene (Curtis Instiois better than Juilliard) and performances as good as or better than the Kennedy Center. Several great museums. And it’s close enough to NYC that you can go there for theater/opera/dance (although Philly has these too).

Agree with this.

Philly is a big city with big city problems and big city amenities. There are rough areas and beautiful areas. I love Philly.

Anonymous wrote:To call the Philly area “majority Italian American immigrants” is bizarre. The city itself is bigger than DC but the metro area is smaller. The city has a larger Latino and Asian population and smaller white and Black populations, and a slightly higher immigrant population (not from Italy lol). It’s not as young, single or educated. The suburbs especially past a certain distance from Center City are less diverse but that’s in part because the metro area is smaller and more focused on the urban core.

That PP has clearly never been to Philly. Lolol

Anonymous wrote:Difference between Philadelphia and DC is Philadelphia has heart. People will talk to you. DC, they judge whether you can advance them in any way.

Lived in Philadelphia for a bit. Anywhere, even DC, can have "heart". I found Philadelphia brusque and most people had little interest beyond their circle of friends from high school. Didn't enjoy it as much as I hoped even though I lived in Center City within a few blocks of Rittenhouse and did enjoy the walkable urban lifestyle. Local politics is utterly dysfunctional.

Difference between Philadelphia and DC is Philadelphia has heart. People will talk to you. DC, they judge whether you can advance them in any way.

Whether or not it makes sense to start out in a HCOLA completely depends on your profession. For some, like law and finance, opportunities are better in HCOLA. For others, like medicine, opportunities are far worse.

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Anonymous wrote:Philadelphian here who actually lives in the city. People are rough on the outside yes, but they are actually nice and helpful under that rough exterior. I think people here are legit real people. I left for a while because I thought I hated this place. But I missed it and came back. We certainly have some bad aspects but there is so much that is great about the city.

The city has been on a upwards trajectory. There are a lot of young people here. The food scene is awesome. It is a very diverse city.

One thing that I love about this city is that many neighborhoods are socioeconomically diverse. You have wealth next to working class people. And for the most part we all get along.

My son, a college student in Philadelphia who grew up in Bethesda and went to school in DC, was offered a summer internship in DC with a national firm. He asked them if he could work in Philly instead. He’s having a great time living in Manayunk (he calls it Philadelphia’s Georgetown) and working in Rittenhouse Square.

You are the first person to compare Manayunk to Georgetown! Manayuk isn't a bad place, it's an odd mixture of old school somewhat rough working class and young college kids, many who go to St. Joseph. Does evoke hill towns in WV or western PA. The Philadelphia Georgetown is Society Hill.

Having lived in both cities, for a young ambitious person who's looking to move up the career ladder quickly, DC is definitely, unquestionably, the place to be compared to Philadelphia. The latter does have lovely advantages and a lower cost of living but there are so many more opportunities in DC. Downside is the higher cost of living. But in watching my peers ever since we graduated from college in 2002, those who moved to the high COLA places with tremendous opportunities like the Bay Area, DC, Boston, NY and LA have done extremely well. It's one thing to start out and mature in an expensive market and something else to start out somewhere cheap and try to transition into an expensive market later.

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Anonymous wrote:What do you like to do?

What is your profession?

What is your social circle like?

I work in healthcare so i can find a job there.

If you want a useful thread you should give more info and at least answer all questions.

Are you social? Philly people can be pretty insular and mainly hang with people they grew up with.

+1 I have several friends who live in the Philly suburbs and they say this. The social networks are very tied to your HS, especially Catholic HS's, and/or Penn State alumni.

Philly suburbs are still better value than CC/Bethesda but have appreciated a lot in past 3 years. Beautiful old stone colonials that would be $3-4M+ in DC in neighborhoods that look like Edgemoor or better were $1-1.5 until recently. Honestly main line is the last place left outside the Midwest to find a beautiful house in a top school district at a price 1-2 professionals can afford in close proximity to major cities.

Also, Philly has the best restaurant scene in the country, and also a good music & great classical music scene (Curtis Instiois better than Juilliard) and performances as good as or better than the Kennedy Center. Several great museums. And it’s close enough to NYC that you can go there for theater/opera/dance (although Philly has these too).