Anonymous
Post 04/30/2022 14:38     Subject: Re:Paying for IVF- How is everyone doing this?

United Healthcare Choice Plus cover $45,000 for fertility treatments each partner.
Anonymous
Post 04/29/2022 11:49     Subject: Paying for IVF- How is everyone doing this?

Another second-job person. I just wanted to come by and send a lot of love to everyone going through this process. It is so hard. The financial aspect is just one way it can wreck you. No advice, just commiseration.
Anonymous
Post 04/29/2022 09:49     Subject: Paying for IVF- How is everyone doing this?

Anonymous wrote:
BBT wrote:I am 42, we have no children, and are about to start a cycle at CCRM Nova. We have a finance Appt tomorrow to understand the charges but I am bracing myself for it being around $25k per cycle. This is very hard for me to digest and accept and, frankly, I am not sure I want to go through with this. How is everyone paying for this? I read posts of so many having MANY cycles. If we can pay for only 1, at my age and using my eggs, it feels like money we are throwing away.


We paid for it with money. But in all seriousness, I got a second job. IVF is quite similar to building a house…if you’re not 100% comfortable with standing at the top of a mountain on a windy day while peeling $100 bills off a stack and letting them fly away in the breeze, then you’re probably gonna have a bad time.

My wife had always struggled with PCOS, so we went thru all the fertility screening appointments a few years before intending to have children to know where we stood. Thankfully we qualified for shared risk. When Dr. Dimattina told us we qualified, I told my wife on the way out the door not to stress because we were gonna have a baby eventually as long as we didn’t quit since no one can stay in business handing out $25k refunds left and right. I ballparked the cost to be $50k all-in…ended up being $47k total with 2 retrievals, 4 transfers, all the drugs, with a healthy baby boy in the end. We could’ve stretched our budget, done some credit tricks, and/or borrowed, but my wife was stressed enough about the physical part and I didn’t want her to worry about the finances on top of it.

The second job? I was and forever will be a night owl, so I drove uber/lyft from 9pm until the wee hours on Friday & Saturday nights while my wife slept lots to prepare her body. Scrimped where we could and banked the $50k in less than a year. Felt good writing out that $25k check in the finance office knowing we didn’t have to borrow it. The transition from driving uber on the weekends to fatherhood was a breeze as feeding a baby at 2am is a cakewalk compared to dealing with wild drunks at 4am.

My best advice for anyone reading this…start early if you think you’re gonna struggle conceiving You can’t qualify for shared risk at an advanced maternal age. There’s no harm in getting a thorough reproductive/endocrine screening at 30-something if you think you’ll ever possibly want children. Too late will come eventually for every woman.


And this is why I'm doing the tests and freezing my eggs soon. I feel you - single and mid-30s and literally bargaining my ability to be a homeowner by doing this, but I'm hoping that the early investment now will save me pain in the future if I find a partner. You sound like a wonderful partner and I'm glad it worked out for you and your wife! And for the person who is 42, I wish you success with whatever you decide to do!
Anonymous
Post 04/28/2022 11:06     Subject: Paying for IVF- How is everyone doing this?

BBT wrote:I am 42, we have no children, and are about to start a cycle at CCRM Nova. We have a finance Appt tomorrow to understand the charges but I am bracing myself for it being around $25k per cycle. This is very hard for me to digest and accept and, frankly, I am not sure I want to go through with this. How is everyone paying for this? I read posts of so many having MANY cycles. If we can pay for only 1, at my age and using my eggs, it feels like money we are throwing away.


We paid for it with money. But in all seriousness, I got a second job. IVF is quite similar to building a house…if you’re not 100% comfortable with standing at the top of a mountain on a windy day while peeling $100 bills off a stack and letting them fly away in the breeze, then you’re probably gonna have a bad time.

My wife had always struggled with PCOS, so we went thru all the fertility screening appointments a few years before intending to have children to know where we stood. Thankfully we qualified for shared risk. When Dr. Dimattina told us we qualified, I told my wife on the way out the door not to stress because we were gonna have a baby eventually as long as we didn’t quit since no one can stay in business handing out $25k refunds left and right. I ballparked the cost to be $50k all-in…ended up being $47k total with 2 retrievals, 4 transfers, all the drugs, with a healthy baby boy in the end. We could’ve stretched our budget, done some credit tricks, and/or borrowed, but my wife was stressed enough about the physical part and I didn’t want her to worry about the finances on top of it.

The second job? I was and forever will be a night owl, so I drove uber/lyft from 9pm until the wee hours on Friday & Saturday nights while my wife slept lots to prepare her body. Scrimped where we could and banked the $50k in less than a year. Felt good writing out that $25k check in the finance office knowing we didn’t have to borrow it. The transition from driving uber on the weekends to fatherhood was a breeze as feeding a baby at 2am is a cakewalk compared to dealing with wild drunks at 4am.

My best advice for anyone reading this…start early if you think you’re gonna struggle conceiving You can’t qualify for shared risk at an advanced maternal age. There’s no harm in getting a thorough reproductive/endocrine screening at 30-something if you think you’ll ever possibly want children. Too late will come eventually for every woman.
Anonymous
Post 04/21/2022 11:15     Subject: Paying for IVF- How is everyone doing this?

Another way to think about this is that is similar to the cost of infant care for a year. We purchased medications on a vacation in another country. They were from the same manufacturer, but other countries have a max on the price of Rx medications. Insurance covered a good bit, but not all and I had a low lifetime max. We also got a no interest credit card that we were able to pay off before the baby was born. We got pregnant on the first cycle at 40. It was lucky, but there are good outcomes. Maybe not useful for OP, but possibly for other readers: I understand that there is currently a bill in DC Council to have a fertility insurance mandate. The proposed language matches Maryland’s. I assume it would take time to actually be passed and for everything to go into action, but it would allow federal employees to purchase insurance with fertility benefits.
Anonymous
Post 04/20/2022 21:30     Subject: Paying for IVF- How is everyone doing this?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I'm a single fed, mid-30s freezing my eggs only due to savings accrued during the student loan forbearance since 2020. I have no insurance coverage or family financial support. I live in a dingy basement apartment that I hate, but lets me save money to do this. Hopefully, I'll meet someone and never have to use the eggs, but if I have a son I may just have to name him Joe to thank Biden for the forbearance.


God help you.


Thanks! Feeling pretty good going into it with my lab results. I have a solid income, 6-month emergency fund, job security, and fortunately can do this without breaking the bank specifically thanks to the student loan forbearance and living very frugally during the pandemic. I know so many mid-30something friends who either have already decided to never have children or are too afraid to think about it and look into it, so I think I've planned well and at the very least, I'll know I did everything I could to try and have the family I wanted, even if a pandemic and biology ultimately say it's not to be. I know I can't afford to be a single mom, but I think I'll feel more free dating afterwards knowing that the rest of it is out of my hands.


You can’t afford student loans that you yourself took out, what makes you think you’re responsible enough to parent? Are you going to depend on the taxpayer for most of that, too?

-paid my student loans in full


OP here. I serve the public because I love and care for others, whether I know them or not, and certainly whether they like me or not. You may not agree with my religion or values, but since you're worried about the burden to the taxpayer, I'm happy to assure you that I made a sound investment. I recently put myself through graduate school and took out a reasonable amount of loans, knowing that my income earning potential ensured I can pay them off even if PSLF options disappear. At the end of the day, I'm literally trying to birth a new taxpayer someday in a fiscally responsible way; just doing my part to help the low U.S. birth rate

Just curious - what would have said if I didn't mention I was a govt. employee with student loans? What makes some of us worthy and others not? Your reaction fascinates me.


OP is 42 with a partner who is starting IVF. You’re a single fed in your 30s freezing your eggs who hijacked OP’s post and is now claiming to be her? Get help.


Lol whatever I mean that I was OP who was quoted by who I am assuming is you, my beloved Anon! Sorry I didn't use proper Interweb jargon while multitasking after a busy day; you know I try to schedule my every move around making randomly spiteful internet strangers happy.

xoxo,
the woman you hate for literally no reason
Anonymous
Post 04/18/2022 20:29     Subject: Paying for IVF- How is everyone doing this?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I'm a single fed, mid-30s freezing my eggs only due to savings accrued during the student loan forbearance since 2020. I have no insurance coverage or family financial support. I live in a dingy basement apartment that I hate, but lets me save money to do this. Hopefully, I'll meet someone and never have to use the eggs, but if I have a son I may just have to name him Joe to thank Biden for the forbearance.


God help you.


Thanks! Feeling pretty good going into it with my lab results. I have a solid income, 6-month emergency fund, job security, and fortunately can do this without breaking the bank specifically thanks to the student loan forbearance and living very frugally during the pandemic. I know so many mid-30something friends who either have already decided to never have children or are too afraid to think about it and look into it, so I think I've planned well and at the very least, I'll know I did everything I could to try and have the family I wanted, even if a pandemic and biology ultimately say it's not to be. I know I can't afford to be a single mom, but I think I'll feel more free dating afterwards knowing that the rest of it is out of my hands.


You can’t afford student loans that you yourself took out, what makes you think you’re responsible enough to parent? Are you going to depend on the taxpayer for most of that, too?

-paid my student loans in full


OP here. I serve the public because I love and care for others, whether I know them or not, and certainly whether they like me or not. You may not agree with my religion or values, but since you're worried about the burden to the taxpayer, I'm happy to assure you that I made a sound investment. I recently put myself through graduate school and took out a reasonable amount of loans, knowing that my income earning potential ensured I can pay them off even if PSLF options disappear. At the end of the day, I'm literally trying to birth a new taxpayer someday in a fiscally responsible way; just doing my part to help the low U.S. birth rate

Just curious - what would have said if I didn't mention I was a govt. employee with student loans? What makes some of us worthy and others not? Your reaction fascinates me.


OP is 42 with a partner who is starting IVF. You’re a single fed in your 30s freezing your eggs who hijacked OP’s post and is now claiming to be her? Get help.
Anonymous
Post 04/18/2022 18:10     Subject: Paying for IVF- How is everyone doing this?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I'm a single fed, mid-30s freezing my eggs only due to savings accrued during the student loan forbearance since 2020. I have no insurance coverage or family financial support. I live in a dingy basement apartment that I hate, but lets me save money to do this. Hopefully, I'll meet someone and never have to use the eggs, but if I have a son I may just have to name him Joe to thank Biden for the forbearance.


God help you.


Thanks! Feeling pretty good going into it with my lab results. I have a solid income, 6-month emergency fund, job security, and fortunately can do this without breaking the bank specifically thanks to the student loan forbearance and living very frugally during the pandemic. I know so many mid-30something friends who either have already decided to never have children or are too afraid to think about it and look into it, so I think I've planned well and at the very least, I'll know I did everything I could to try and have the family I wanted, even if a pandemic and biology ultimately say it's not to be. I know I can't afford to be a single mom, but I think I'll feel more free dating afterwards knowing that the rest of it is out of my hands.


You can’t afford student loans that you yourself took out, what makes you think you’re responsible enough to parent? Are you going to depend on the taxpayer for most of that, too?

-paid my student loans in full


Get over yourself and check your privilege. You know nothing about this person's situation, the support they got, or the degrees they have.

-BA,MA,PhD paid my student loans in full and still in favor of debt relief
-


OP here - Thanks, Doc! Congrats on your PhD! That's a huge accomplishment!
Anonymous
Post 04/18/2022 18:09     Subject: Paying for IVF- How is everyone doing this?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I'm a single fed, mid-30s freezing my eggs only due to savings accrued during the student loan forbearance since 2020. I have no insurance coverage or family financial support. I live in a dingy basement apartment that I hate, but lets me save money to do this. Hopefully, I'll meet someone and never have to use the eggs, but if I have a son I may just have to name him Joe to thank Biden for the forbearance.


God help you.


Thanks! Feeling pretty good going into it with my lab results. I have a solid income, 6-month emergency fund, job security, and fortunately can do this without breaking the bank specifically thanks to the student loan forbearance and living very frugally during the pandemic. I know so many mid-30something friends who either have already decided to never have children or are too afraid to think about it and look into it, so I think I've planned well and at the very least, I'll know I did everything I could to try and have the family I wanted, even if a pandemic and biology ultimately say it's not to be. I know I can't afford to be a single mom, but I think I'll feel more free dating afterwards knowing that the rest of it is out of my hands.


You can’t afford student loans that you yourself took out, what makes you think you’re responsible enough to parent? Are you going to depend on the taxpayer for most of that, too?

-paid my student loans in full


OP here. I serve the public because I love and care for others, whether I know them or not, and certainly whether they like me or not. You may not agree with my religion or values, but since you're worried about the burden to the taxpayer, I'm happy to assure you that I made a sound investment. I recently put myself through graduate school and took out a reasonable amount of loans, knowing that my income earning potential ensured I can pay them off even if PSLF options disappear. At the end of the day, I'm literally trying to birth a new taxpayer someday in a fiscally responsible way; just doing my part to help the low U.S. birth rate

Just curious - what would have said if I didn't mention I was a govt. employee with student loans? What makes some of us worthy and others not? Your reaction fascinates me.
Anonymous
Post 04/18/2022 12:39     Subject: Re:Paying for IVF- How is everyone doing this?

Hello,
I have been researching international options for over a year and have visited three clinics (one in Cancun, Mexico and 2 in Madrid, Spain), we ended up chasing one in Madrid and we are due to start our egg donor IVF procedure this summer.
It can be scary and confusing to go abroad but if you do your research carefully, read reviews, reports, and ask the right questions, as well as perhaps travel there before (one low-season RT ticket to Madrid or Greece can be bought for $500) it can be iife changing. We do not regret our choice - after a failed IVF with Dominion Fertility in VA, we decided to save our money and try abroad. The clinics we visited were all very professional, legitimate, and upfront about all our questions. Spain overall has the best ratings - also according to our doctors in the U.S. - because of their advanced techniques, high rates of successful IVF and price. I was told Greece, Check Republic and Portugal are good as well.
Good luck!
Anonymous
Post 04/17/2022 00:05     Subject: Paying for IVF- How is everyone doing this?

Health-Tourism.com

I have two friends who went international for their IVF. Both were successful and said that it was significantly less than US options.

One went to Thailand and the other to Estonia.

One has never discussed numbers but the other friend said in passing that meds & procedure was under $18k for TWO rounds. That's like $50k-75k in the US.
Anonymous
Post 04/16/2022 23:50     Subject: Paying for IVF- How is everyone doing this?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I'm a single fed, mid-30s freezing my eggs only due to savings accrued during the student loan forbearance since 2020. I have no insurance coverage or family financial support. I live in a dingy basement apartment that I hate, but lets me save money to do this. Hopefully, I'll meet someone and never have to use the eggs, but if I have a son I may just have to name him Joe to thank Biden for the forbearance.


God help you.


Thanks! Feeling pretty good going into it with my lab results. I have a solid income, 6-month emergency fund, job security, and fortunately can do this without breaking the bank specifically thanks to the student loan forbearance and living very frugally during the pandemic. I know so many mid-30something friends who either have already decided to never have children or are too afraid to think about it and look into it, so I think I've planned well and at the very least, I'll know I did everything I could to try and have the family I wanted, even if a pandemic and biology ultimately say it's not to be. I know I can't afford to be a single mom, but I think I'll feel more free dating afterwards knowing that the rest of it is out of my hands.


You can’t afford student loans that you yourself took out, what makes you think you’re responsible enough to parent? Are you going to depend on the taxpayer for most of that, too?

-paid my student loans in full


Get over yourself and check your privilege. You know nothing about this person's situation, the support they got, or the degrees they have.

-BA,MA,PhD paid my student loans in full and still in favor of debt relief
-


I’m a first generation college graduate so sounds like you probably know more about “privilege” than me, but wtf does not knowing about this person’s degree have to do with whether or not they will be a responsible parent who can take care of their own kids? I mean yeah sure if you took out loans to get a degree in gender studies, life is probably going to be tough for you due to your IQ.
Anonymous
Post 04/16/2022 19:17     Subject: Paying for IVF- How is everyone doing this?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I'm a single fed, mid-30s freezing my eggs only due to savings accrued during the student loan forbearance since 2020. I have no insurance coverage or family financial support. I live in a dingy basement apartment that I hate, but lets me save money to do this. Hopefully, I'll meet someone and never have to use the eggs, but if I have a son I may just have to name him Joe to thank Biden for the forbearance.


God help you.


Thanks! Feeling pretty good going into it with my lab results. I have a solid income, 6-month emergency fund, job security, and fortunately can do this without breaking the bank specifically thanks to the student loan forbearance and living very frugally during the pandemic. I know so many mid-30something friends who either have already decided to never have children or are too afraid to think about it and look into it, so I think I've planned well and at the very least, I'll know I did everything I could to try and have the family I wanted, even if a pandemic and biology ultimately say it's not to be. I know I can't afford to be a single mom, but I think I'll feel more free dating afterwards knowing that the rest of it is out of my hands.


You can’t afford student loans that you yourself took out, what makes you think you’re responsible enough to parent? Are you going to depend on the taxpayer for most of that, too?

-paid my student loans in full


Get over yourself and check your privilege. You know nothing about this person's situation, the support they got, or the degrees they have.

-BA,MA,PhD paid my student loans in full and still in favor of debt relief
-
Anonymous
Post 04/15/2022 00:35     Subject: Paying for IVF- How is everyone doing this?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I'm a single fed, mid-30s freezing my eggs only due to savings accrued during the student loan forbearance since 2020. I have no insurance coverage or family financial support. I live in a dingy basement apartment that I hate, but lets me save money to do this. Hopefully, I'll meet someone and never have to use the eggs, but if I have a son I may just have to name him Joe to thank Biden for the forbearance.


God help you.


Thanks! Feeling pretty good going into it with my lab results. I have a solid income, 6-month emergency fund, job security, and fortunately can do this without breaking the bank specifically thanks to the student loan forbearance and living very frugally during the pandemic. I know so many mid-30something friends who either have already decided to never have children or are too afraid to think about it and look into it, so I think I've planned well and at the very least, I'll know I did everything I could to try and have the family I wanted, even if a pandemic and biology ultimately say it's not to be. I know I can't afford to be a single mom, but I think I'll feel more free dating afterwards knowing that the rest of it is out of my hands.


You can’t afford student loans that you yourself took out, what makes you think you’re responsible enough to parent? Are you going to depend on the taxpayer for most of that, too?

-paid my student loans in full
Anonymous
Post 04/14/2022 21:18     Subject: Paying for IVF- How is everyone doing this?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I'm a single fed, mid-30s freezing my eggs only due to savings accrued during the student loan forbearance since 2020. I have no insurance coverage or family financial support. I live in a dingy basement apartment that I hate, but lets me save money to do this. Hopefully, I'll meet someone and never have to use the eggs, but if I have a son I may just have to name him Joe to thank Biden for the forbearance.


God help you.


Thanks! Feeling pretty good going into it with my lab results. I have a solid income, 6-month emergency fund, job security, and fortunately can do this without breaking the bank specifically thanks to the student loan forbearance and living very frugally during the pandemic. I know so many mid-30something friends who either have already decided to never have children or are too afraid to think about it and look into it, so I think I've planned well and at the very least, I'll know I did everything I could to try and have the family I wanted, even if a pandemic and biology ultimately say it's not to be. I know I can't afford to be a single mom, but I think I'll feel more free dating afterwards knowing that the rest of it is out of my hands.