Anonymous wrote:This whole debate on recruiting is relative to the class as well. The point is there are talented 28s in Baltimore and dc who will get recruited to d1 programs just maybe not everyone at top programs. And guess what that’s ok. This game is bigger than all of that. Please remember why they play. It’s the medicine game for a reason.

Nice sentiments, but if you follow these boards at all, you'd note it being the medicine game in some corners is not why they play.

Anonymous wrote:What has happened to Hero’s and M&D? Does anyone know why their number of commits have dropped off of late?

For starters, the recruit list was clearly NOT made by DG', as it's missing plenty of commits. For example, for M&D 2025 they left off a Maryland commit, a second USC commit, a Villanova commit and possibly others but I don't have time to sit here and double check. The point that Capital is good for recruiting has been made, but I would not take this list as proof of anything beyond that.

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Anonymous wrote:No comments on here for 5 days. That has to be a record!

Everyone was out drinking heavily at the 2028's dismal showings this past weekend....

No doubt there was some bad lacrosse played at AS by a couple of the DC/VA/MD 2028 teams, but this post from another thread is on target as far as I am concerned:

"It's become pretty obvious the past couple of years, is that other regions take American Select much more seriously. At the rising Junior age group, especially, it makes sense to bring a team together, practice, and try to get into the playoffs and get additional looks from college coaches, etc. But other regions are doing this all the way down to the 8th Graders.

DC-VA, and even Maryland, don't seem to really invest in American Select. No practices until the week or two before. The difference in intensity and effort around this event is noticeable, and honestly, seems like this area could put a better foot forward--regional pride or something."

2025's DC/VA won America Select. Maybe people on this board should stop comparing their daughters' class year to the 25's. That was an exceptional class. They also won School Girls and just lost in Highlight Division Championship at New Balance.

No. In 2021 when the 2025s were rising 9th graders they went 1-4, only winning their consolation game, which is exactly what the 2028s did over the weekend.

Are you really comparing one of the worst classes ever (2028s) to one of the best classes (2025s)? Stop using the 2025s as a future indicator for the success of the 27 and 28s.

What are we talking about here? 2028 is worst ever coast to coast? Midatlantic? DC/MD/VA? Just NoVa? American Select team only?

DC and the MD and VA counties around DC plus Loudon are the worst ever 2928 class. Huge drop off in talent from prior years (e.g., the 2025s).

Zero chance you can predict what's going to happen 900 years from now. None.

I think they were trying to say the 2025's were the greatest of all time. Even 900 years from now, people will read about them in ancient history books....

Yes, it will be the golden age of lacrosse in the DMV. The bad stepsister of the 2028s will not be remembered fondly in those same books!

What the current capital parents refuse to acknowledge is that the 2028 DMV class lost a lot of talent to Maryland teams. Capital needs to change its approach, because more than ever people are willing to drive to Maryland for a better option. The former pride/now capital parents are clinging to the over inflated #7 ranking like they are Jack clinging to the door on the titanic. This is not a class you can compare to other capital classes, because they lost more talent than any other year to Maryland early on.

2028 was a down year across the board and the reason why a handful of players went to MD. Still, enough players stayed and made Pride a highly competitive team, and history shows players who go on to Capital Blue will get recruited to great schools. As for the rankings, I didn't know math was inflatable - thought math was math. If we are to believe Pride doesn't deserve a #7 spot, it means the entire ranking system is fraudulent and unreliable. Can't question the math used for one without questioning the math used for all. Separately - all three major DMV clubs (Stars, Pride, BLC) at the 2029 level are top 25 and two at the 2030 level (BLC and YJMA) are top 20. Top players from these teams haven't moved to MD (and won't) because the 2029 year is clearly a stronger talent year. Capital will continue to thrive based on the strong talent pool in the DMV.

I am not convinced 2028 is a down year across the board. I feel confident that if the ~10 players who left for MD teams were instead on Next Level this year, for example, that would be a very good team - probably in the top 25. Similarly, if those ~10 were now playing for Capital you would be looking at a future top 5 team easily. The pool of talent is more spread out at 2028 for sure, but is it a down year across the board? Maybe that is indeed true, but I have not read any good arguments in favor. It's just a talking point as far as I am concerned - conventional wisdom.

There are maybe five DMV players on MD teams who are needle-movers. The others wouldn’t make Capital Blue.

You are the obviously one who didn’t want the MD girls to come back because your daughter would have been on orange instead of blue. All of the starters on MD teams would have made blue

You proved the point: not all DMV players on MD teams are starters. Roughly half are. Non starters
would have a hard time making Capital Blue. We’re saying the same thing.

Way more than half are starters. But you probably don’t know that because you didn’t play in those brackets this summer

Then break it down for us since you’re so in the know.

We’re waiting

All at MnD and most at hero’s.

Also a player who just went to coppermine was a potential capital player who would have made blue

She only made CM because they are desperate for players. And she was not a definite for Blue at all.

Dang, low point of the board. Taking shots at 14-15 year old girls. Obviously disgruntled parent comment . Whoever she is, she must be doing something right.

This is a low point? You must be new to this thread.

This whole debate on recruiting is relative to the class as well. The point is there are talented 28s in Baltimore and dc who will get recruited to d1 programs just maybe not everyone at top programs. And guess what that’s ok. This game is bigger than all of that. Please remember why they play. It’s the medicine game for a reason.

What has happened to Hero’s and M&D? Does anyone know why their number of commits have dropped off of late?

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Everyone was out drinking heavily at the 2028's dismal showings this past weekend....

No doubt there was some bad lacrosse played at AS by a couple of the DC/VA/MD 2028 teams, but this post from another thread is on target as far as I am concerned:

"It's become pretty obvious the past couple of years, is that other regions take American Select much more seriously. At the rising Junior age group, especially, it makes sense to bring a team together, practice, and try to get into the playoffs and get additional looks from college coaches, etc. But other regions are doing this all the way down to the 8th Graders.

DC-VA, and even Maryland, don't seem to really invest in American Select. No practices until the week or two before. The difference in intensity and effort around this event is noticeable, and honestly, seems like this area could put a better foot forward--regional pride or something."

2025's DC/VA won America Select. Maybe people on this board should stop comparing their daughters' class year to the 25's. That was an exceptional class. They also won School Girls and just lost in Highlight Division Championship at New Balance.

No. In 2021 when the 2025s were rising 9th graders they went 1-4, only winning their consolation game, which is exactly what the 2028s did over the weekend.

Are you really comparing one of the worst classes ever (2028s) to one of the best classes (2025s)? Stop using the 2025s as a future indicator for the success of the 27 and 28s.

What are we talking about here? 2028 is worst ever coast to coast? Midatlantic? DC/MD/VA? Just NoVa? American Select team only?

DC and the MD and VA counties around DC plus Loudon are the worst ever 2928 class. Huge drop off in talent from prior years (e.g., the 2025s).

Zero chance you can predict what's going to happen 900 years from now. None.

I think they were trying to say the 2025's were the greatest of all time. Even 900 years from now, people will read about them in ancient history books....

Yes, it will be the golden age of lacrosse in the DMV. The bad stepsister of the 2028s will not be remembered fondly in those same books!

What the current capital parents refuse to acknowledge is that the 2028 DMV class lost a lot of talent to Maryland teams. Capital needs to change its approach, because more than ever people are willing to drive to Maryland for a better option. The former pride/now capital parents are clinging to the over inflated #7 ranking like they are Jack clinging to the door on the titanic. This is not a class you can compare to other capital classes, because they lost more talent than any other year to Maryland early on.

2028 was a down year across the board and the reason why a handful of players went to MD. Still, enough players stayed and made Pride a highly competitive team, and history shows players who go on to Capital Blue will get recruited to great schools. As for the rankings, I didn't know math was inflatable - thought math was math. If we are to believe Pride doesn't deserve a #7 spot, it means the entire ranking system is fraudulent and unreliable. Can't question the math used for one without questioning the math used for all. Separately - all three major DMV clubs (Stars, Pride, BLC) at the 2029 level are top 25 and two at the 2030 level (BLC and YJMA) are top 20. Top players from these teams haven't moved to MD (and won't) because the 2029 year is clearly a stronger talent year. Capital will continue to thrive based on the strong talent pool in the DMV.

I am not convinced 2028 is a down year across the board. I feel confident that if the ~10 players who left for MD teams were instead on Next Level this year, for example, that would be a very good team - probably in the top 25. Similarly, if those ~10 were now playing for Capital you would be looking at a future top 5 team easily. The pool of talent is more spread out at 2028 for sure, but is it a down year across the board? Maybe that is indeed true, but I have not read any good arguments in favor. It's just a talking point as far as I am concerned - conventional wisdom.

There are maybe five DMV players on MD teams who are needle-movers. The others wouldn’t make Capital Blue.

You are the obviously one who didn’t want the MD girls to come back because your daughter would have been on orange instead of blue. All of the starters on MD teams would have made blue

You proved the point: not all DMV players on MD teams are starters. Roughly half are. Non starters
would have a hard time making Capital Blue. We’re saying the same thing.

Way more than half are starters. But you probably don’t know that because you didn’t play in those brackets this summer

Then break it down for us since you’re so in the know.

We’re waiting

All at MnD and most at hero’s.

Also a player who just went to coppermine was a potential capital player who would have made blue

She only made CM because they are desperate for players. And she was not a definite for Blue at all.

Dang, low point of the board. Taking shots at 14-15 year old girls. Obviously disgruntled parent comment . Whoever she is, she must be doing something right.

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Anonymous wrote:I am a ‘30 parent and was intent on having my DD leave her team for an MD team but the Capital recruiting record is compelling.

Move her to Maryland. Don’t waste the middle school years at stars and Pride. Come back to Capital if you want for High School.

Making the top Capital team is not a sure thing and many or most players try to improve their chances by attending the pre-tryout clinics. This is expected for players on the DMV teams, so nobody is surprised when they show up. But when a player from a top MD team shows up at the clinics word gets out and this has the potential to create some drama. It becomes difficult to go all-in on the Capital tryout process while still maintaining good standing on the MD club. I’m not suggesting this never happens, but there are more complexities for a MD player than a DMV player. For a 2030 already on a top MD team it would be best to take the ride all the way to the end. If a player really wants to play for Capital in HS then staying on a (good) local team for MS is the best path.

Given the Capital recruiting stats it makes no sense for a strong DMV player to move to MD.

2 main reasons for a player to move to a MD team:

Pride and Stars.

For recruiting, you still have to be a strong player, being on capital doesn’t guarantee you anything. As others have said, a lot of these players are getting little to no money from schools with rosters of 30-40+

This shows you don’t know anything. Any player committing within the first month after 9/1 is getting money. Nearly every member of Capital Blue’s entire team over the past three years have committed within this timeframe. That may not be the case at whatever club your kid’s on, but it is very much the case at Capital.

Getting 10% at Florida along with everyone else doesn’t make you special. Louder for those in the back. You have to be able to play to get recruited.

If that’s the best your team’s players are getting I feel bad for you. Capital players are getting way more than that. And there’s no question that’s happening bec those players are getting locked up within the first month. They have to be great players to get committed that early - if coaches only wanted them for their awesome grades those commitments would drift deep into the winter and following spring. Which isn’t happening.

It doesn’t matter how many times you say it - you’ll be wrong every time. I’d say do your homework but you’re here to influence not educate, we get that. Never said Cap players are special; simply challenging your inaccurate statements with facts. The second hand embarrassment we’re getting from your “Louder for those in the back” reference (which you use constantly) is real, but since you asked:

*Cap players committing within the first month are receiving scholarship offers on par with players from other teams across the country.

* Since 2023, Cap Blue teams have committed nearly every one of their players as of Oct 1.

* Over the past three years, Capital has committed 2X the number of players to both top 20 schools and ivies than Hero’s, and committed roughly 1.5X the number of players to top 20 schools than M&D.

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Anonymous wrote:I am a ‘30 parent and was intent on having my DD leave her team for an MD team but the Capital recruiting record is compelling.

Move her to Maryland. Don’t waste the middle school years at stars and Pride. Come back to Capital if you want for High School.

Making the top Capital team is not a sure thing and many or most players try to improve their chances by attending the pre-tryout clinics. This is expected for players on the DMV teams, so nobody is surprised when they show up. But when a player from a top MD team shows up at the clinics word gets out and this has the potential to create some drama. It becomes difficult to go all-in on the Capital tryout process while still maintaining good standing on the MD club. I’m not suggesting this never happens, but there are more complexities for a MD player than a DMV player. For a 2030 already on a top MD team it would be best to take the ride all the way to the end. If a player really wants to play for Capital in HS then staying on a (good) local team for MS is the best path.

Given the Capital recruiting stats it makes no sense for a strong DMV player to move to MD.

2 main reasons for a player to move to a MD team:

Pride and Stars.

For recruiting, you still have to be a strong player, being on capital doesn’t guarantee you anything. As others have said, a lot of these players are getting little to no money from schools with rosters of 30-40+

This shows you don’t know anything. Any player committing within the first month after 9/1 is getting money. Nearly every member of Capital Blue’s entire team over the past three years have committed within this timeframe. That may not be the case at whatever club your kid’s on, but it is very much the case at Capital.

Getting 10% at Florida along with everyone else doesn’t make you special. Louder for those in the back. You have to be able to play to get recruited.

The term "louder for those in the back" is when you affirm or agree with someone else's post. You can't affirm your own take with it, because that would be silly.

And what does "you have to be able to play to get recruited" in this context mean? Because it seems to make no sense.

I'll hang up and listen.

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Anonymous wrote:I am a ‘30 parent and was intent on having my DD leave her team for an MD team but the Capital recruiting record is compelling.

Move her to Maryland. Don’t waste the middle school years at stars and Pride. Come back to Capital if you want for High School.

Making the top Capital team is not a sure thing and many or most players try to improve their chances by attending the pre-tryout clinics. This is expected for players on the DMV teams, so nobody is surprised when they show up. But when a player from a top MD team shows up at the clinics word gets out and this has the potential to create some drama. It becomes difficult to go all-in on the Capital tryout process while still maintaining good standing on the MD club. I’m not suggesting this never happens, but there are more complexities for a MD player than a DMV player. For a 2030 already on a top MD team it would be best to take the ride all the way to the end. If a player really wants to play for Capital in HS then staying on a (good) local team for MS is the best path.

Given the Capital recruiting stats it makes no sense for a strong DMV player to move to MD.

2 main reasons for a player to move to a MD team:

Pride and Stars.

For recruiting, you still have to be a strong player, being on capital doesn’t guarantee you anything. As others have said, a lot of these players are getting little to no money from schools with rosters of 30-40+

This shows you don’t know anything. Any player committing within the first month after 9/1 is getting money. Nearly every member of Capital Blue’s entire team over the past three years have committed within this timeframe. That may not be the case at whatever club your kid’s on, but it is very much the case at Capital.

Getting 10% at Florida along with everyone else doesn’t make you special. Louder for those in the back. You have to be able to play to get recruited.

Coaches tend to increase the scholarship as the players prove themselves and become upperclassmen.
Just curious how some PP claim to know how much players are receiving. It is nobodys business except the player and her family. . I think you all are making these numbers up. I call BS.

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Anonymous wrote:I am a ‘30 parent and was intent on having my DD leave her team for an MD team but the Capital recruiting record is compelling.

Move her to Maryland. Don’t waste the middle school years at stars and Pride. Come back to Capital if you want for High School.

Making the top Capital team is not a sure thing and many or most players try to improve their chances by attending the pre-tryout clinics. This is expected for players on the DMV teams, so nobody is surprised when they show up. But when a player from a top MD team shows up at the clinics word gets out and this has the potential to create some drama. It becomes difficult to go all-in on the Capital tryout process while still maintaining good standing on the MD club. I’m not suggesting this never happens, but there are more complexities for a MD player than a DMV player. For a 2030 already on a top MD team it would be best to take the ride all the way to the end. If a player really wants to play for Capital in HS then staying on a (good) local team for MS is the best path.

Given the Capital recruiting stats it makes no sense for a strong DMV player to move to MD.

2 main reasons for a player to move to a MD team:

Pride and Stars.

For recruiting, you still have to be a strong player, being on capital doesn’t guarantee you anything. As others have said, a lot of these players are getting little to no money from schools with rosters of 30-40+

This shows you don’t know anything. Any player committing within the first month after 9/1 is getting money. Nearly every member of Capital Blue’s entire team over the past three years have committed within this timeframe. That may not be the case at whatever club your kid’s on, but it is very much the case at Capital.

Getting 10% at Florida along with everyone else doesn’t make you special. Louder for those in the back. You have to be able to play to get recruited.

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Anonymous wrote:I am a ‘30 parent and was intent on having my DD leave her team for an MD team but the Capital recruiting record is compelling.

Move her to Maryland. Don’t waste the middle school years at stars and Pride. Come back to Capital if you want for High School.

Making the top Capital team is not a sure thing and many or most players try to improve their chances by attending the pre-tryout clinics. This is expected for players on the DMV teams, so nobody is surprised when they show up. But when a player from a top MD team shows up at the clinics word gets out and this has the potential to create some drama. It becomes difficult to go all-in on the Capital tryout process while still maintaining good standing on the MD club. I’m not suggesting this never happens, but there are more complexities for a MD player than a DMV player. For a 2030 already on a top MD team it would be best to take the ride all the way to the end. If a player really wants to play for Capital in HS then staying on a (good) local team for MS is the best path.

Given the Capital recruiting stats it makes no sense for a strong DMV player to move to MD.

2 main reasons for a player to move to a MD team:

Pride and Stars.

For recruiting, you still have to be a strong player, being on capital doesn’t guarantee you anything. As others have said, a lot of these players are getting little to no money from schools with rosters of 30-40+

This shows you don’t know anything. Any player committing within the first month after 9/1 is getting money. Nearly every member of Capital Blue’s entire team over the past three years have committed within this timeframe. That may not be the case at whatever club your kid’s on, but it is very much the case at Capital.

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Anonymous wrote:I am a ‘30 parent and was intent on having my DD leave her team for an MD team but the Capital recruiting record is compelling.

Move her to Maryland. Don’t waste the middle school years at stars and Pride. Come back to Capital if you want for High School.

Making the top Capital team is not a sure thing and many or most players try to improve their chances by attending the pre-tryout clinics. This is expected for players on the DMV teams, so nobody is surprised when they show up. But when a player from a top MD team shows up at the clinics word gets out and this has the potential to create some drama. It becomes difficult to go all-in on the Capital tryout process while still maintaining good standing on the MD club. I’m not suggesting this never happens, but there are more complexities for a MD player than a DMV player. For a 2030 already on a top MD team it would be best to take the ride all the way to the end. If a player really wants to play for Capital in HS then staying on a (good) local team for MS is the best path.

Given the Capital recruiting stats it makes no sense for a strong DMV player to move to MD.

2 main reasons for a player to move to a MD team:

Pride and Stars.

For recruiting, you still have to be a strong player, being on capital doesn’t guarantee you anything. As others have said, a lot of these players are getting little to no money from schools with rosters of 30-40+

I read back one whole page and found this, which is at odds with your analysis:

“My daughter played for Capital - every top 20 recruited player on her team (excluding ivies) received scholarship money.”

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Move her to Maryland. Don’t waste the middle school years at stars and Pride. Come back to Capital if you want for High School.

Making the top Capital team is not a sure thing and many or most players try to improve their chances by attending the pre-tryout clinics. This is expected for players on the DMV teams, so nobody is surprised when they show up. But when a player from a top MD team shows up at the clinics word gets out and this has the potential to create some drama. It becomes difficult to go all-in on the Capital tryout process while still maintaining good standing on the MD club. I’m not suggesting this never happens, but there are more complexities for a MD player than a DMV player. For a 2030 already on a top MD team it would be best to take the ride all the way to the end. If a player really wants to play for Capital in HS then staying on a (good) local team for MS is the best path.

Given the Capital recruiting stats it makes no sense for a strong DMV player to move to MD.

2 main reasons for a player to move to a MD team:

Pride and Stars.

For recruiting, you still have to be a strong player, being on capital doesn’t guarantee you anything. As others have said, a lot of these players are getting little to no money from schools with rosters of 30-40+

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Anonymous wrote:Coppermine 2024 Black
Mount St. Mary's
Rochester
Dickinson
Oberlin
F&M
Millersville
Flagler
DePauw

Coppermine 2023 Black
Towson
Richmond
Queens
York
Hamilton
Campbell
Furman
Manhattan
St. Joseph's
Flagler
Rollins
Seton Hill

Coppermine 2023 Blue
Carthage
St. Marys (MD)
Ursinus

All I did was look on SportsRecruits btw. Not too difficult. This also doesn't include anyone from their North teams (old Elite club)

Disclaimer said all info was taken from Inside Lacrosse, jacka*s. The fact your club doesn’t update that site - the encyclopedia for the sport - isn’t my problem.

You thinking Inside Lacrosse has the most up-to-date information and resorting to name-calling is hilarious. Laxnumbers is *actually* the encylopedia for all things recruiting.

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Anonymous wrote:I am a ‘30 parent and was intent on having my DD leave her team for an MD team but the Capital recruiting record is compelling.

Move her to Maryland. Don’t waste the middle school years at stars and Pride. Come back to Capital if you want for High School.

Making the top Capital team is not a sure thing and many or most players try to improve their chances by attending the pre-tryout clinics. This is expected for players on the DMV teams, so nobody is surprised when they show up. But when a player from a top MD team shows up at the clinics word gets out and this has the potential to create some drama. It becomes difficult to go all-in on the Capital tryout process while still maintaining good standing on the MD club. I’m not suggesting this never happens, but there are more complexities for a MD player than a DMV player. For a 2030 already on a top MD team it would be best to take the ride all the way to the end. If a player really wants to play for Capital in HS then staying on a (good) local team for MS is the best path.

Given the Capital recruiting stats it makes no sense for a strong DMV player to move to MD.