Anonymous
Post 05/28/2020 20:25     Subject: I can't breathe . . . Minneapolis police kill a man in broad daylight




So now, people who oppose the looting and destruction of property are “vile racist scum?” “Fock” you!


Yes, “fock” you for caring more about a TV than a man’s life.


This is an insane and asininely false comparison. It's not a TRADE. No one is caring MORE about a TV *than* a man's life. They are caring THAT stealing TVs and destroying stores is WRONG. Plus, it won't bring him back.

The man's murder was WRONG. But ALSO...looting is wrong. And completed unrelated, btw. Has no impact at all on the police officers who did this. Will not change what happened but WILL hurt the community of people who are negatively impacted by the theft and destruction. No one is going to change their behavior *because of* the rioting. And tbh, no one changed their behavior due to the man's death either. People who loot were already prone to steal and looting before this. No one who wasn't already in a position to consider looting and stealing as an acceptable behavior in life suddenly decided to become a looter and thief as a result of this death. Just doesn't work that way.

So yes, anyone looting and stealing should be arrested and charged for that. You don't get a pass for committing crimes simply because a separate unjustifiable crime was committed that made you angry. Even if a man murders my own family member, I don't get to go out and rob a bank and get away with it. And if I do, can I claim that anyone who wants to charge me with the bank robbery cares more about the bank's money than my family that got murdered?? That's nuts!
Anonymous
Post 05/28/2020 20:22     Subject: Re:I can't breathe . . . Minneapolis police kill a man in broad daylight
https://bringmethenews.com/minnesota-news/a-list-of-the-buildings-damaged-looted-in-minneapolis-riots

The idiots who probably couldn’t even remember the deceased man’s name destroyed an affordable housing complex, on addition to numerous other things that were vital to their own community. Great. But who cares, right?
Anonymous
Post 05/28/2020 20:19     Subject: I can't breathe . . . Minneapolis police kill a man in broad daylight
Thank God The National Gaurd is there,
but cars are still getting torched right now.

Where is Mr Mayor right now?
Where is Mr Police Chief right now?
Anonymous
Post 05/28/2020 20:14     Subject: I can't breathe . . . Minneapolis police kill a man in broad daylight
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Republican Trey Gowdy is saying there's NO reason why the killer cop hasn't yet been charged and arrested.

Why won't any of their Democrats say this?

Plenty of Democrats have said this, including the mayor of Minneapolis.


Maybe they are awaiting autopsy results to confirm what actually caused the man's death? We are assuming that the cop kneeling on his neck killed the guy but if it turned out to be a heart attack, stroke or OD...what then?


Then they release the cop.

Turn the tables... what would be happening?


You want people to be thrown in jail for murder before a murder has even been confirmed? Obviously, they did an investigation quickly enough to warrant their firings. Now they are building the criminal case.

But you can't criminally charge a person with murder until you know for a fact that the guy was murdered. Justice doesn't work that fast. That's the way lynch mobs work. Give the system a chance to work before you flip out and burn down your whole danged town.


Nah, you just have to have probable cause of homicide--doesn't necessarily have to even be prosecutable as murder.

It is not uncommon for civilians, especially civilians of lesser means, to be arrested and held on suspicion of this or that without evidence being fully developed. And sometimes then released, maybe quickly, maybe after considerable time has passed, when it becomes apparent there is no prosecutable case to be made.
Anonymous
Post 05/28/2020 20:06     Subject: I can't breathe . . . Minneapolis police kill a man in broad daylight
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:When I see a person gasping for air - I'm getting an ambulance - and I don't give a sh*t what color he is!!

Those bystanders have blood on theirs hands.


An abulance was on the way, genius. Those bystanders would be in the ground today right next to Floyd if they had tried to do anything but beg.

Too little, too late. Gotta get my viral clip first.
Not. One. Single. Bystander. Called 911 for an ambulance.
Not one.


How do you know they didn’t?
Anonymous
Post 05/28/2020 20:06     Subject: I can't breathe . . . Minneapolis police kill a man in broad daylight
Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:why are people rioting?? America agrees this is terrible

Im a white conservative trump supporter, support cops, etc. Once I watched the video, I would tell anyone it's beyond disgusting

The black community is hurting themselves acting like this and rioting. Giving the media what it wants. Stop it!

"The black community" aren't the only people protesting...


True, but they’re the only ones looting.


Focusing on the looting = waving the confederate flag.

Did you get our your special tiki torches out on Memorial Day?


This is a weak statement.

The rioting and looting were a result of the reaction to this awful death.
They are hurting innocent business owners, destroying property, and causing the taxpayers of the city undue costs.

The police station and police cars that were damaged and destroyed? They'll be repaired and replaced - at the taxpayers expense.

Rioting and looting is just stupid and short sighted. Many were simply taking advantage of a bad situation. The people there who were protesting should speak out against these criminals.


The only criminals we really need to focus on right now are the killer cops.

Your continued focus on looting says a lot about you.



Really? Looting going on right now at the Target in Minneapolis.
When you come out to protest, and you start stealing stuff, you become a thief.
When you come out to protest, and you start burning stuff, you become an arsonist.
Thieves and arsonists are criminals.

The justice system will take care of the cops. Hopefully, the justice system will also take care of the criminals who are taking advantage of this situation.


Looting isn’t the issue here.
. . .


Really?

- what about all the sick people who depended on the pharmacy for their life-saving medications?
- how about those who depended on the Target minute clinic?
- and now the Target employees there are unemployed. For what?

Those looters just victimized countless innocent people right there in their own community.

But you don’t think it’s an issue at all??!?


+1000 There are consequences for innocent people who did nothing wrong. There is absolutely nothing high and mighty about looting and rioting. It's out of control mob behavior.



In response to an out-of-control racist police force who MURDERED someone because of the color of their skin.



So in retaliation you get to steal a big screen t.v. from Target and torch a nearby apartment complex? Explain to me how this rights any wrongs? Answer: it doesn't. Two wrongs do not make a right.


Omg. Fock the TVs. Fock the windows. Fock Target. Those.do.not.matter.

I’m disgusted by the vile racist scum that are more worried about a TV than a man who lost his life because of the color of his skin.

WTF is wrong with you? Were your parents racist?



So now, people who oppose the looting and destruction of property are “vile racist scum?” “Fock” you!


Yes, “fock” you for caring more about a TV than a man’s life.
Anonymous
Post 05/28/2020 20:04     Subject: I can't breathe . . . Minneapolis police kill a man in broad daylight
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Republican Trey Gowdy is saying there's NO reason why the killer cop hasn't yet been charged and arrested.

Why won't any of their Democrats say this?

Plenty of Democrats have said this, including the mayor of Minneapolis.


Maybe they are awaiting autopsy results to confirm what actually caused the man's death? We are assuming that the cop kneeling on his neck killed the guy but if it turned out to be a heart attack, stroke or OD...what then?


Then they release the cop.

Turn the tables... what would be happening?


You want people to be thrown in jail for murder before a murder has even been confirmed? Obviously, they did an investigation quickly enough to warrant their firings. Now they are building the criminal case.

But you can't criminally charge a person with murder until you know for a fact that the guy was murdered. Justice doesn't work that fast. That's the way lynch mobs work. Give the system a chance to work before you flip out and burn down your whole danged town.


This guy disagrees....hint: he’s had some experience arresting people.
https://www.foxnews.com/media/george-floyd-derek-chauvin-should-be-arrested

"I want you to just think about it in reverse, Bill," Williams said. "Suppose it was a citizen that had his knee on the neck of a police officer and that police officer died. That citizen would be arrested right away. This man [Chauvin] should have been arrested right away. And I expect in the near future that he will be arrested."

"There was no need for this police officer to have his knee on this man's neck," Williams said. "And one of the things that I've been able to research and find out is that Chauvin, this police officer, the 19-year veteran of that police department, he's had numerous police misconduct complaints, but he knows the rules and regulations out there on the street."
Anonymous
Post 05/28/2020 20:03     Subject: I can't breathe . . . Minneapolis police kill a man in broad daylight
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:why are people rioting?? America agrees this is terrible

Im a white conservative trump supporter, support cops, etc. Once I watched the video, I would tell anyone it's beyond disgusting

The black community is hurting themselves acting like this and rioting. Giving the media what it wants. Stop it!

"The black community" aren't the only people protesting...


True, but they’re the only ones looting.


Focusing on the looting = waving the confederate flag.

Did you get our your special tiki torches out on Memorial Day?


This is a weak statement.

The rioting and looting were a result of the reaction to this awful death.
They are hurting innocent business owners, destroying property, and causing the taxpayers of the city undue costs.

The police station and police cars that were damaged and destroyed? They'll be repaired and replaced - at the taxpayers expense.

Rioting and looting is just stupid and short sighted. Many were simply taking advantage of a bad situation. The people there who were protesting should speak out against these criminals.


The only criminals we really need to focus on right now are the killer cops.

Your continued focus on looting says a lot about you.



Really? Looting going on right now at the Target in Minneapolis.
When you come out to protest, and you start stealing stuff, you become a thief.
When you come out to protest, and you start burning stuff, you become an arsonist.
Thieves and arsonists are criminals.

The justice system will take care of the cops. Hopefully, the justice system will also take care of the criminals who are taking advantage of this situation.


Looting isn’t the issue here.
. . .


Really?

- what about all the sick people who depended on the pharmacy for their life-saving medications?
- how about those who depended on the Target minute clinic?
- and now the Target employees there are unemployed. For what?

Those looters just victimized countless innocent people right there in their own community.

But you don’t think it’s an issue at all??!?


+1000 There are consequences for innocent people who did nothing wrong. There is absolutely nothing high and mighty about looting and rioting. It's out of control mob behavior.



In response to an out-of-control racist police force who MURDERED someone because of the color of their skin.



So in retaliation you get to steal a big screen t.v. from Target and torch a nearby apartment complex? Explain to me how this rights any wrongs? Answer: it doesn't. Two wrongs do not make a right.


Omg. Fock the TVs. Fock the windows. Fock Target. Those.do.not.matter.

I’m disgusted by the vile racist scum that are more worried about a TV than a man who lost his life because of the color of his skin.

WTF is wrong with you? Were your parents racist?



So now, people who oppose the looting and destruction of property are “vile racist scum?” “Fock” you!
Anonymous
Post 05/28/2020 19:59     Subject: I can't breathe . . . Minneapolis police kill a man in broad daylight
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Police doing what police do.
+1


This is awful and inexcusable. Those individual police officers responsible AND those who stood by and did/said nothing to prevent this as it was happening should be held accountable and charged with murder. Period.


I won't, however, use this as a reason to generalize and condemn all police officers. Just like i won't condemn muslims or saudi arabians for the 911 attacks or condemn all white Christians for the Oklahoma City bombing. That literally makes no sense. There are bad cops. There just are. The solution is not to turn against police as a profession...but to hold them accountable for rooting out the evil within. I expect Christian ministers to condemn acts of terror committed "in the name of Jesus" as evil and wrong. I expect muslim imams to likewise condemn acts of evil committed by self-proclaimed followers of Allah. And I expect police officers EVERYWHERE to say "this is NOT who we are and these men should be charged and tried for murder." Don't let them hide behind the badge.


+100. Especially the first part, but yes to all of it.
Anonymous
Post 05/28/2020 19:58     Subject: I can't breathe . . . Minneapolis police kill a man in broad daylight
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:When I see a person gasping for air - I'm getting an ambulance - and I don't give a sh*t what color he is!!

Those bystanders have blood on theirs hands.


An abulance was on the way, genius. Those bystanders would be in the ground today right next to Floyd if they had tried to do anything but beg.

Too little, too late. Gotta get my viral clip first.
Not. One. Single. Bystander. Called 911 for an ambulance.
Not one.
Anonymous
Post 05/28/2020 19:58     Subject: I can't breathe . . . Minneapolis police kill a man in broad daylight
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Did any bystanders ever dial 911, or was it more important for each bystander to record the travesty, as they watched on?

Dial 911 they’ll say cops on the scene.


Someone did call an ambulance. (police report says that the police did that--but who knows?) And he was taken to a hospital. And he died at the hospital.
Doesn't change the fact that the guy kneeling on his neck was responsible for his death. Could have triggered cardiac arrest or whatever. There was no reason for a man in handcuffs to be treated that way. Once you have the handcuffs on the dude, he is in custody.

Anonymous
Post 05/28/2020 19:58     Subject: I can't breathe . . . Minneapolis police kill a man in broad daylight
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Did any bystanders ever dial 911, or was it more important for each bystander to record the travesty, as they watched on?




Dial 911? You DO get that the most criminal part of all of this is that "911" was already there -- and busy, right?
And you DO get that without the recordings all of this could have been swept under the rug, right?
Of course you do.


You're out of excuses, my friend.

What excuses? Are you blind? The cops were there.
Anonymous
Post 05/28/2020 19:58     Subject: I can't breathe . . . Minneapolis police kill a man in broad daylight
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:When I see a person gasping for air - I'm getting an ambulance - and I don't give a sh*t what color he is!!

Those bystanders have blood on theirs hands.


An abulance was on the way, genius. Those bystanders would be in the ground today right next to Floyd if they had tried to do anything but beg.

Officer with his knee in the guys neck pulled out his pepper spray at one point and was ready to get it on with the bystanders who were pleading with him to let up. That cop was in full “power trip mode” and anybody who questioned his authority was gonna get dealt with by force.
Anonymous
Post 05/28/2020 19:55     Subject: I can't breathe . . . Minneapolis police kill a man in broad daylight
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Republican Trey Gowdy is saying there's NO reason why the killer cop hasn't yet been charged and arrested.

Why won't any of their Democrats say this?

Plenty of Democrats have said this, including the mayor of Minneapolis.


Maybe they are awaiting autopsy results to confirm what actually caused the man's death? We are assuming that the cop kneeling on his neck killed the guy but if it turned out to be a heart attack, stroke or OD...what then?


He coincidentally had a stroke at the very moment a police officer had his knee on his throat?

GMAFB.

I’m sure they are in negotiation with the police union right now. If they arrest maybe that Trump police union guy is threatening to have them all go on strike.

Your conspiracy theory is rich. Stop deflecting from the facts.


The fact is they haven’t made any arrests yet.

https://news.yahoo.com/police-chiefs-condemn-george-floyd-killing-death-knee-minneapolis-officer-203423522.html

A dissent from the general condemnation was voiced by Lt. Bob Kroll, president of the Police Officers Federation of Minneapolis, who said, “Now is not the time to rush to judgment and immediately condemn our officers.

“We ask that the community remain calm and the investigation be completed in full,” Kroll added.

But police officials elsewhere said they had seen enough.

“There is no need to see more video. There is no need to wait to see how ‘it plays out,’” Chattanooga, Tenn., Police Chief David Roddy tweeted. “There is no need to put a knee on someone’s neck for NINE minutes. There IS a need to DO something. If you wear a badge and you don’t have an issue with this ... turn it in.”

Kroll is the racist Trump supporter heading up the police union.



Kroll fed the nasty, racist police culture.

“The fact that these officers were being filmed by bystanders and still continued to engage in that conduct shows you everything about the culture of the Minneapolis Police Department,” said Michelle Gross, the president of Communities United Against Police Brutality. “They feel they’re immune to any kind of accountability. They feel they can get away with it.”

While politicians and activists in Minneapolis embrace the language of racial justice, some critics say they often fail to put those words into action.

There have been some hard-won police reforms, including a change to the use-of-force manual requiring that officers intervene when they see colleagues using excessive force.

One of the biggest challenges to reforming the department, analysts say, is the city’s powerful police union. It established its power in local politics in the 1970s, when Charles A. Stenvig, a former head of the Police Officers Federation of Minneapolis, served three terms as mayor on a “law and order” platform.

Lt. Bob Kroll, the head of the union, was accused in Chief Arradondo’s lawsuit of calling a black congressman who was Muslim a “terrorist” and of wearing a motorcycle jacket with a badge that said “white power.” Lieutenant Kroll did not respond to messages seeking comment.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/05/27/us/minneapolis-police.html
Anonymous
Post 05/28/2020 19:54     Subject: I can't breathe . . . Minneapolis police kill a man in broad daylight
Anonymous wrote:When I see a person gasping for air - I'm getting an ambulance - and I don't give a sh*t what color he is!!

Those bystanders have blood on theirs hands.


An abulance was on the way, genius. Those bystanders would be in the ground today right next to Floyd if they had tried to do anything but beg.