Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:He set her up, he treated her by taking the dog via treats and calling it over. She didn't deserve to be fired for something that happened on personal time. I'm so tired of people setting people up for their 5 minutes of fame. He clearly does this regularly. She and the dog were not bothering anyone. Both handled it badly but he set her up.

You could say she set him up by walking her dog off leash in the first place.

Nobody set anybody up. This guy is a middle aged science editor who was out birdwatching. Bird people and dog people are always at odds - if she was walking a dog off leash in an area with a lot of bird watchers, she knew (or should have known) that she'd be called out by one of them. What seems unexpected to her is that the bird watcher was black.

The treat thing is weird. And I'd sure as fck be upset if someone randomly gave my dog a treat. But I wouldn't call the police and say an African American man was threatening my life over it. And I sure as hll wouldn't let myself be filmed calling the cops on a guy in this situation, using that language, knowing what could happen out of it.

There are a few people on this thread who carry treats. It's not weird and the only way a stranger could effectively give your dog a treat is if he was off leash. I don't think this applies to you.

He's a board member of the New York chapter of the Audobon Society. He birdwatches regularly and has done so for years in the Ramble. He was trying to be responsible by asking her politely to leash her dog as required by law in that section of the park, or to take her dog to another part of the park where the leash law wasn't in effect. And she went nuts.

Hopefully this is a lesson to other irresponsible dog owners, but it probably won't be. Her irresponsibility and any acknowledgment of that will be completely overshadowed by her racism and bigotry that got her fired.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Is it some kind of insult or disrespectful transgression to tell someone that they need to have their dog on a leash?
Why do people get so angry and defensive?

Entailed snowflakes don't like to be confronted with their entitled snowflakiness. It makes them have to confront the fact that the world includes other people besides themselves. Like, how dare others.

The kind of person who would unleash their dog in a public place is exactly the kind of person who would go berserk if you called them on it. They’re special and entitled and their dog wouldn’t hurt a flea. Until it does. Unfortunately, I as a white woman wouldn't ask someone to leash their dog because I would assume that person is selfish and crazy or volatile.

My experience, too. I might take a photo surreptitiously and share it if necessary, but unless the dog was coming at me, I wouldn't engage.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:He set her up, he treated her by taking the dog via treats and calling it over. She didn't deserve to be fired for something that happened on personal time. I'm so tired of people setting people up for their 5 minutes of fame. He clearly does this regularly. She and the dog were not bothering anyone. Both handled it badly but he set her up.

You can’t set up people to be racist if they aren’t racist

Exactly! There’s plenty of a-hole dog owners who would have yelled at the bird-watcher or not leashed their dog (because they are jerks) without a racist false accusation that could have easily gotten this guy killed.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I wonder if that man is happy she got fired from her job. Or his sister.

I am sure he isn't giving it a second thought. Personally, I feel like the more racism is made economically unviable, the better.

It's the free market at work

Anonymous wrote:Birdwatcher said this morning he could forgive her.

He's a better person than I am.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:He set her up, he treated her by taking the dog via treats and calling it over. She didn't deserve to be fired for something that happened on personal time. I'm so tired of people setting people up for their 5 minutes of fame. He clearly does this regularly. She and the dog were not bothering anyone. Both handled it badly but he set her up.

You could say she set him up by walking her dog off leash in the first place.

Nobody set anybody up. This guy is a middle aged science editor who was out birdwatching. Bird people and dog people are always at odds - if she was walking a dog off leash in an area with a lot of bird watchers, she knew (or should have known) that she'd be called out by one of them. What seems unexpected to her is that the bird watcher was black.

The treat thing is weird. And I'd sure as fck be upset if someone randomly gave my dog a treat. But I wouldn't call the police and say an African American man was threatening my life over it. And I sure as hll wouldn't let myself be filmed calling the cops on a guy in this situation, using that language, knowing what could happen out of it.

Anonymous wrote:He set her up, he treated her by taking the dog via treats and calling it over. She didn't deserve to be fired for something that happened on personal time. I'm so tired of people setting people up for their 5 minutes of fame. He clearly does this regularly. She and the dog were not bothering anyone. Both handled it badly but he set her up.

Let's think for one sec.

If the dog was on a leash it would not have been a problem.

And as for the rest of your post-- nope.

You'd think people would learn by now they should behave BETTER once they're being filmed, but nope. Glad she lost her job. At least she didn't succeed in getting a middle-aged birdwatcher arrested or killed, which was her intent.

Anonymous wrote:He set her up, he treated her by taking the dog via treats and calling it over. She didn't deserve to be fired for something that happened on personal time. I'm so tired of people setting people up for their 5 minutes of fame. He clearly does this regularly. She and the dog were not bothering anyone. Both handled it badly but he set her up.

She set herself up by walking her dog illegally of leash in the Ramble. All she had to do was move to the thousands of acres of Central Park where off-leash is okay, or leash her dog. Instead, she pulled the entitlement card, and it backfired, bigly.

The dog was bothering him. He was birding. Dogs off leash can kill ground based birds as are common in the Ramble. that is why is it a leash-only area.

In other words, you are willing to give a pass to a white woman breaking the law and immediately ascribe the negative externality to the black guy. You might want to do some soul searching.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:She has been fired.

https://www.tmz.com/2020/05/25/woman-calls-cops-black-man-central-park-dog-leash-karen/

GOOD! Here's the company's tweet

https://twitter.com/FTI_US/status/1265348185201008641

She made false claims on a 911 call KNOWING that there was a camera running. I wouldn't be surprised if some of that lying energy came out at work in various ways as well. Probably plenty of people glad to see her go.

Birdwatcher said this morning he could forgive her.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:She has been fired.

https://www.tmz.com/2020/05/25/woman-calls-cops-black-man-central-park-dog-leash-karen/

She probably has legal standing to sue the man's sister for publishing that video and anyone who posted her identifying information including her employment details as well as all those who retweeted that information. And she'd probably win.

You are very wrong. The victim has legal standing to accuse her of slander because she defamed him by calling in a clearly false police report accusing him of threatening and attacking both her and her dog when he did nothing of the kind. If she tries to sue them, she'll be countersued. She would lose both suits because she was in the wrong and he was not.

And dox'ing is not illegal. She was in a public place and videotaping her was legal. And anyone identifying her was also legally allowed to identify her. When you are in public and do something wrong, you can clearly be publicly identified. Just losing her job may not be the end of the road for her. She will probably also lose her dog for good and there is some question about whether she will be charged with misdemeanor making a false police report. That carries up to $1000 fine and up to 1 year in prison. She needs to treat lightly here or things could get worse for her.