Anonymous
Post 04/19/2019 12:09     Subject: Subtle signs of class
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Anonymous wrote:Ok, this thread is increasingly seeming destined to become a DCUM classic

We are debating whether UC WASPs go to Portugal and the class distinctions signaled by Pottery Barn vs. Stickley (as if this were a question).


What’s wrong with stickler?

It’s hand made, all wood stuff (no veneer or particle board)

Super weird that you assume that Stickley was the lower class of the two. I guess you know what that means about your own class status


People were laughing at the suggestion that Stickley is a store worth buying from. I was wondering why they are scoffing.

Apparently because they don’t make “original” one of a kind furniture.

Personally I live Stickley and have bought a lot of furniture from them. My dining set was over 12k on sale.


Oh dear.


The Stickley poster has just proven she is very middle class. She may have money, but her core values are working class to middle class.



I’m trying to clarify class here. UC don’t buy “dining sets” because they either inherit antique pieces or purchase antiques that complement each other and are not matching (sideboards, china cabinets). Is that correct?


Stickley poster here. My sideboard doesn't "match" my table and chairs. I used the phrase "dining set" to mean a table plus 8 chairs. They actually do match because I wanted the ones with the in lay, which I think is really pretty.

Even buying a "set" with matching table and chairs (which is what I assumed you meant by "dining set") is a class marker. It's silly, maybe, but it is what it is. My parents did not inherit a lot, but they never bought sets. And they mixed-and-matched estate pieces with custom furniture. E.g. their dining room furniture is a mix of antique chairs that have been reupholstered and a custom dining table (Henredon and Baker, I think, but I'm not sure).


I have a similar story about multiple family antiques that were shipped from Britain (where we still have family) to the US for our wedding. I don’t want to say more in case I know any of you. I don’t talk about them unless someone asks.
Anonymous
Post 04/19/2019 12:09     Subject: Subtle signs of class
Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:Ok, this thread is increasingly seeming destined to become a DCUM classic

We are debating whether UC WASPs go to Portugal and the class distinctions signaled by Pottery Barn vs. Stickley (as if this were a question).


What’s wrong with stickler?

It’s hand made, all wood stuff (no veneer or particle board)

Super weird that you assume that Stickley was the lower class of the two. I guess you know what that means about your own class status


People were laughing at the suggestion that Stickley is a store worth buying from. I was wondering why they are scoffing.

Apparently because they don’t make “original” one of a kind furniture.

Personally I live Stickley and have bought a lot of furniture from them. My dining set was over 12k on sale.


Oh dear.


The Stickley poster has just proven she is very middle class. She may have money, but her core values are working class to middle class.



I’m trying to clarify class here. UC don’t buy “dining sets” because they either inherit antique pieces or purchase antiques that complement each other and are not matching (sideboards, china cabinets). Is that correct?


Yes, that’s correct. Things don’t match, but separately they’re amazing and they do blend together. Often there were family members over the generations who collected this stuff (because let’s face it, someone had to buy it in the first place) and the current generation owns the lot.

UC doesn’t mention prices, either.

If you watch certain movies, UC Brits are always snarking about things like fish knives. The point here is that, if your silverware includes fish knives, that means someone in the family bought it during the Victorian era (when fishknives were introduced) or later. Meaning, you may have inherited your silverware, but your family money is not old old. For this US this seems pretty unrealistic.


I don’t like antique furniture because it’s usually scuffed up and scratched. I get that’s part of the appeal for these people but I think it’s ugly and stupid. Just buy something new that will actually look nice.
Anonymous
Post 04/19/2019 12:07     Subject: Subtle signs of class
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Anonymous wrote:New poster.

I'd rather have money than class. I think that's true of most people. You can find nice, down to earth people who aren't snobby everywhere. Make friends with them and enjoy your money. Don't worry about what other people think, especially the snobs on here.


Class does not mean snobby. In fact, the old WASP class downplays its money with old cars and clothes. If you want snobby, join the horse-new money circuit and watch them eyeball your SUV.


You don’t think the posters in here gate keeping who is UC and who is not are not being snobby?!
Anonymous
Post 04/19/2019 12:06     Subject: Subtle signs of class
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Anonymous wrote:Ok, this thread is increasingly seeming destined to become a DCUM classic

We are debating whether UC WASPs go to Portugal and the class distinctions signaled by Pottery Barn vs. Stickley (as if this were a question).


What’s wrong with stickler?

It’s hand made, all wood stuff (no veneer or particle board)

Super weird that you assume that Stickley was the lower class of the two. I guess you know what that means about your own class status


People were laughing at the suggestion that Stickley is a store worth buying from. I was wondering why they are scoffing.

Apparently because they don’t make “original” one of a kind furniture.

Personally I live Stickley and have bought a lot of furniture from them. My dining set was over 12k on sale.


Oh dear.


The Stickley poster has just proven she is very middle class. She may have money, but her core values are working class to middle class.



I’m trying to clarify class here. UC don’t buy “dining sets” because they either inherit antique pieces or purchase antiques that complement each other and are not matching (sideboards, china cabinets). Is that correct?


Stickley poster here. My sideboard doesn't "match" my table and chairs. I used the phrase "dining set" to mean a table plus 8 chairs. They actually do match because I wanted the ones with the in lay, which I think is really pretty.

Even buying a "set" with matching table and chairs (which is what I assumed you meant by "dining set") is a class marker. It's silly, maybe, but it is what it is. My parents did not inherit a lot, but they never bought sets. And they mixed-and-matched estate pieces with custom furniture. E.g. their dining room furniture is a mix of antique chairs that have been reupholstered and a custom dining table (Henredon and Baker, I think, but I'm not sure).


NP. That’s fine but I don’t like the mix and match look. It’s really popular on Instagram right now (especially with the farmhouse trend - a lot of people think it’s great to mix in a random bench) and I think it is ugly.
Anonymous
Post 04/19/2019 12:05     Subject: Subtle signs of class
Anonymous wrote:New poster.

I'd rather have money than class. I think that's true of most people. You can find nice, down to earth people who aren't snobby everywhere. Make friends with them and enjoy your money. Don't worry about what other people think, especially the snobs on here.


Class does not mean snobby. In fact, the old WASP class downplays its money with old cars and clothes. If you want snobby, join the horse-new money circuit and watch them eyeball your SUV.
Anonymous
Post 04/19/2019 12:03     Subject: Subtle signs of class
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Ok, this thread is increasingly seeming destined to become a DCUM classic

We are debating whether UC WASPs go to Portugal and the class distinctions signaled by Pottery Barn vs. Stickley (as if this were a question).


What’s wrong with stickler?

It’s hand made, all wood stuff (no veneer or particle board)

Super weird that you assume that Stickley was the lower class of the two. I guess you know what that means about your own class status


People were laughing at the suggestion that Stickley is a store worth buying from. I was wondering why they are scoffing.

Apparently because they don’t make “original” one of a kind furniture.

Personally I live Stickley and have bought a lot of furniture from them. My dining set was over 12k on sale.


Oh dear.


The Stickley poster has just proven she is very middle class. She may have money, but her core values are working class to middle class.



I’m trying to clarify class here. UC don’t buy “dining sets” because they either inherit antique pieces or purchase antiques that complement each other and are not matching (sideboards, china cabinets). Is that correct?


Yes, that’s correct. Things don’t match, but separately they’re amazing and they do blend together. Often there were family members over the generations who collected this stuff (because let’s face it, someone had to buy it in the first place) and the current generation owns the lot.

UC doesn’t mention prices, either.

If you watch certain movies, UC Brits are always snarking about things like fish knives. The point here is that, if your silverware includes fish knives, that means someone in the family bought it during the Victorian era (when fishknives were introduced) or later. Meaning, you may have inherited your silverware, but your family money is not old old. For this US this seems pretty unrealistic.
Anonymous
Post 04/19/2019 11:52     Subject: Subtle signs of class
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Ok, this thread is increasingly seeming destined to become a DCUM classic

We are debating whether UC WASPs go to Portugal and the class distinctions signaled by Pottery Barn vs. Stickley (as if this were a question).


What’s wrong with stickler?

It’s hand made, all wood stuff (no veneer or particle board)

Super weird that you assume that Stickley was the lower class of the two. I guess you know what that means about your own class status


People were laughing at the suggestion that Stickley is a store worth buying from. I was wondering why they are scoffing.

Apparently because they don’t make “original” one of a kind furniture.

Personally I live Stickley and have bought a lot of furniture from them. My dining set was over 12k on sale.


Oh dear.


The Stickley poster has just proven she is very middle class. She may have money, but her core values are working class to middle class.



I’m trying to clarify class here. UC don’t buy “dining sets” because they either inherit antique pieces or purchase antiques that complement each other and are not matching (sideboards, china cabinets). Is that correct?


Stickley poster here. My sideboard doesn't "match" my table and chairs. I used the phrase "dining set" to mean a table plus 8 chairs. They actually do match because I wanted the ones with the in lay, which I think is really pretty.

Even buying a "set" with matching table and chairs (which is what I assumed you meant by "dining set") is a class marker. It's silly, maybe, but it is what it is. My parents did not inherit a lot, but they never bought sets. And they mixed-and-matched estate pieces with custom furniture. E.g. their dining room furniture is a mix of antique chairs that have been reupholstered and a custom dining table (Henredon and Baker, I think, but I'm not sure).
Anonymous
Post 04/19/2019 11:00     Subject: Subtle signs of class
New poster.

I'd rather have money than class. I think that's true of most people. You can find nice, down to earth people who aren't snobby everywhere. Make friends with them and enjoy your money. Don't worry about what other people think, especially the snobs on here.
Anonymous
Post 04/19/2019 10:58     Subject: Subtle signs of class
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Ok, this thread is increasingly seeming destined to become a DCUM classic

We are debating whether UC WASPs go to Portugal and the class distinctions signaled by Pottery Barn vs. Stickley (as if this were a question).


What’s wrong with stickler?

It’s hand made, all wood stuff (no veneer or particle board)

Super weird that you assume that Stickley was the lower class of the two. I guess you know what that means about your own class status


People were laughing at the suggestion that Stickley is a store worth buying from. I was wondering why they are scoffing.

Apparently because they don’t make “original” one of a kind furniture.

Personally I live Stickley and have bought a lot of furniture from them. My dining set was over 12k on sale.


Oh dear.


The Stickley poster has just proven she is very middle class. She may have money, but her core values are working class to middle class.



I’m trying to clarify class here. UC don’t buy “dining sets” because they either inherit antique pieces or purchase antiques that complement each other and are not matching (sideboards, china cabinets). Is that correct?


Stickley poster here. My sideboard doesn't "match" my table and chairs. I used the phrase "dining set" to mean a table plus 8 chairs. They actually do match because I wanted the ones with the in lay, which I think is really pretty.

Anonymous
Post 04/19/2019 10:57     Subject: Subtle signs of class
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Ok, this thread is increasingly seeming destined to become a DCUM classic

We are debating whether UC WASPs go to Portugal and the class distinctions signaled by Pottery Barn vs. Stickley (as if this were a question).


What’s wrong with stickler?

It’s hand made, all wood stuff (no veneer or particle board)

Super weird that you assume that Stickley was the lower class of the two. I guess you know what that means about your own class status


People were laughing at the suggestion that Stickley is a store worth buying from. I was wondering why they are scoffing.

Apparently because they don’t make “original” one of a kind furniture.

Personally I live Stickley and have bought a lot of furniture from them. My dining set was over 12k on sale.


Oh dear.


The Stickley poster has just proven she is very middle class. She may have money, but her core values are working class to middle class.



I’m trying to clarify class here. UC don’t buy “dining sets” because they either inherit antique pieces or purchase antiques that complement each other and are not matching (sideboards, china cabinets). Is that correct?


True. They don’t typically have to buy an entire set as they will have older pieces. Maybe they would buy a Stickley table, but if they have class, they would never post about how much it cost.
Anonymous
Post 04/19/2019 10:55     Subject: Subtle signs of class
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Anonymous wrote:Owning a farm and living quietly in Middleburg is very different than living destitute, as was being implied.


It means she has money. Not that she’s “classy.”


She married into money long after the Clinton affair.


Linda Tripp is so unattractive. Plus what she did was so appalling and tacky. I'm surprised she found someone to marry her, to tell you the truth.
Anonymous
Post 04/19/2019 10:55     Subject: Subtle signs of class
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Ok, this thread is increasingly seeming destined to become a DCUM classic

We are debating whether UC WASPs go to Portugal and the class distinctions signaled by Pottery Barn vs. Stickley (as if this were a question).


What’s wrong with stickler?

It’s hand made, all wood stuff (no veneer or particle board)

Super weird that you assume that Stickley was the lower class of the two. I guess you know what that means about your own class status


People were laughing at the suggestion that Stickley is a store worth buying from. I was wondering why they are scoffing.

Apparently because they don’t make “original” one of a kind furniture.

Personally I live Stickley and have bought a lot of furniture from them. My dining set was over 12k on sale.


Oh dear.


The Stickley poster has just proven she is very middle class. She may have money, but her core values are working class to middle class.



I’m trying to clarify class here. UC don’t buy “dining sets” because they either inherit antique pieces or purchase antiques that complement each other and are not matching (sideboards, china cabinets). Is that correct?
Anonymous
Post 04/19/2019 10:55     Subject: Subtle signs of class
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Anonymous wrote:This thread is so ridiculous.

It's just stereotypes about Old Money WASPs which is a culture that has mostly died out and for good reason.


Really? Old money WASPs and their hangers-on run the big non-profit in the NGO sector. Plenty of them in DC, mainly Chevy Chase DC and Chevy Chase MD, also AU Park.


True but I don't think they are particularly impressive or aspirational. They live UMC lives with a little family money in the background but generally nothing to write home about (usually get educations and down payments funded but that's it).

I'd rather be a tech billionaire or hundred millionaire to tell you the truth. I think they are the new elite.


I want both.


I'm sure they can have both, if they want it.
Anonymous
Post 04/19/2019 10:51     Subject: Subtle signs of class
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Owning a farm and living quietly in Middleburg is very different than living destitute, as was being implied.


It means she has money. Not that she’s “classy.”


She married into money long after the Clinton affair.
Anonymous
Post 04/19/2019 10:37     Subject: Re:Subtle signs of class
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Anonymous wrote:Locally, though, I thought I read here on DCUM somewhere that the owner of the Redskins couldn't be admitted to one of the exclusive country clubs (maybe Congressional?)


Money does not always smooth one's way into these social clubs.


Obama was rejected from Woodmont.

This is why I'm not a huge fan of old money.


Woodmont is not an old money, nor a very classy club. The club rejected him due to security concerns.