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Anonymous wrote:Look at the other map they published from the census. Lots of Spanish Speakers around Nottingham.

https://www.apsva.us/wp-content/uploads/2018/05/Language_ACS16_5Year_Count_Census.pdf

Are you planning to put teenagers into an elementary immersion program? That map looks at children 5-17, so roughly elementary through high school. The APS map pp shared reflects only the elementary-aged Spanish-speaking population in the area, which is the relevant consideration for this analysis.

Then why did APS decide to make it an appendix?

They are both relevant. Its about where spanish speaking families are. Right now the only kids impacted by this are maybe 2nd grade and below- more likely 1st grade and below.

I see that the Key parents who live near Key have switched to advocating for no changes whatsoever-
https://www.change.org/p/arlington-school-board-leave-all-elementary-schools-in-their-current-locations-and-change-boundaries?recruiter=279815821&utm_source=share_petition&utm_medium=copylink&utm_campaign=psf_combo_share_message

That's such a dick move. We can debate which moves make the most sense, but the status quo is just terrible and something needs to change (even if that ends up being my school, which is on the table).

Good for them. No one on this board who isn’t a Key parent has the slightest clue how Key works, the families and students who make Key what it is, or anything else about Key. Key parents are advocating for Key the same as other parents are advocating for their schools and their children. If you think that’s a “dick move,” go suck an egg.

That is such bullshit. Key had a perfectly fine petition going already advocating for Key to stay where it is. They could have stuck with that and simply advocated for themselves in the staff's process rather than throwing every other community that needs changes under the bus by advocating for nothing to change. This petition is is basically a big middle finger to the rest of Arlington, an overt statement that Key families that no one matters but them. Even Nottingham didn't go there.

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Anonymous wrote:Look at the other map they published from the census. Lots of Spanish Speakers around Nottingham.

https://www.apsva.us/wp-content/uploads/2018/05/Language_ACS16_5Year_Count_Census.pdf

Are you planning to put teenagers into an elementary immersion program? That map looks at children 5-17, so roughly elementary through high school. The APS map pp shared reflects only the elementary-aged Spanish-speaking population in the area, which is the relevant consideration for this analysis.

Then why did APS decide to make it an appendix?

They are both relevant. Its about where spanish speaking families are. Right now the only kids impacted by this are maybe 2nd grade and below- more likely 1st grade and below.

I see that the Key parents who live near Key have switched to advocating for no changes whatsoever-
https://www.change.org/p/arlington-school-board-leave-all-elementary-schools-in-their-current-locations-and-change-boundaries?recruiter=279815821&utm_source=share_petition&utm_medium=copylink&utm_campaign=psf_combo_share_message

That's such a dick move. We can debate which moves make the most sense, but the status quo is just terrible and something needs to change (even if that ends up being my school, which is on the table).

Good for them. No one on this board who isn’t a Key parent has the slightest clue how Key works, the families and students who make Key what it is, or anything else about Key. Key parents are advocating for Key the same as other parents are advocating for their schools and their children. If you think that’s a “dick move,” go suck an egg.

That is such bullshit. Key had a perfectly fine petition going already advocating for Key to stay where it is. They could have stuck with that and simply advocated for themselves in the staff's process rather than throwing every other community that needs changes under the bus by advocating for nothing to change. This petition is is basically a big middle finger to the rest of Arlington, an overt statement that Key families that no one matters but them. Even Nottingham didn't go there.

How does this make them any different than any of the rest of you? Please stop pretending that you all are advocates for anyone other than yourselves. And, above all, please stop pretending that any of you give a sh!t about poor kids when you do everything you can to avoid your own kids associating with them.

I'm the same poster who posted a few pages back about how the guiding decision point on the analysis needed to be which was a higher priority for ED South Arlington families, proximity to neighborhood schools or easier access to choice programs, and who further said that since I live in North Arlington, I don't feel comfortable answering that question for them and would defer to them on which direction it should go. What happens to us (which will be something, even if we stay at our school but there's a boundary shift around us) is secondary to that in my mind.

I'm a South Arlington parent. I'll answer for you. If I'm an UMC parent in the Henry, Oakridge, or Hoffman Boston walk zone, I want walkable neighborhood schools.

If I'm an UMC parent in any of the other zones, I want access to option programs (I am fine with a long bus ride, too, just want to be able to get into one).

If I'm a disadvantaged parent, I will send my kids to school wherever is closest and easiest to get to, don't mind too much if the kid has a short bus trip because then I don't have to walk them, but I want a school that is safe and welcoming, and I don't care so much about the program focus. Wherever we get in to VPI is where kid will go for Kindergarten.

If I am educated immigrant parent, I want access to option programs because we can't afford to live in-bounds to a "good" school, but we moved here just to give the kids a "good" education. So I want access to option programs. Or I'll report a fake address and send kids to the "good" school anyway.

Any questions?

Yes, are you really a south Arlington parent and if so, which category do you belong in?

I am a south Arlington parent. I am what you would probably consider a UMC parent in "any of the other zones" but couldn't care less about access to option programs for my family. I do, however, care about access to high-performing neighborhood schools and access to high-quality option programs for the concentrations of disadvantaged families in SW Arlington.

I appreciate the OP and the genuine desire to consider what's best for the system, rather than what's "best" for OP's family. So unfortunate that people couldn't just respond accordingly. Likewise, I appreciate the responders who have replied in the spirit OP had intended and hoped.

My answer to OP is "both." It shouldn't be one or the other. Just like everyone else everywhere else in the County, access to both. Making CS, Campbell, and Barcroft all option schools will essentially eliminate all walkable neighborhood schools for the entire western end of Columbia Pike. The biggest obstacle to making any positive changes has been the advocacy groups insistence that those communities cannot be broken apart and must have walkable neighborhood schools. I would love to see SB actually have the courage to make some bold changes here. I would support Claremont immersion moving to Carlin Springs and retaining Campbell as a countywide option program. But Key immersion should not move to Barcroft - if it has to move out of NE, it would be better suited to the current ATS site. That will still draw from the concentration of Spanish-speaking families and not eliminate all neighborhood school options for the west end. And it gives south Arlington ED families access to both neighborhood and option programs. I'm sure someone will take issue that Barcroft and Randolph are not "high-performing" schools that I mentioned earlier; but breaking the highest concentration of ED students at CS and opening Claremont as neighborhood, along with new 2019 boundaries around Drew can all have a tremendous impact throughout South Arlington and therefore for all of APS. What a concept.

Where would you suggest putting the ATS program if Key goes to its current building?

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Anonymous wrote:Look at the other map they published from the census. Lots of Spanish Speakers around Nottingham.

https://www.apsva.us/wp-content/uploads/2018/05/Language_ACS16_5Year_Count_Census.pdf

Are you planning to put teenagers into an elementary immersion program? That map looks at children 5-17, so roughly elementary through high school. The APS map pp shared reflects only the elementary-aged Spanish-speaking population in the area, which is the relevant consideration for this analysis.

Then why did APS decide to make it an appendix?

They are both relevant. Its about where spanish speaking families are. Right now the only kids impacted by this are maybe 2nd grade and below- more likely 1st grade and below.

I see that the Key parents who live near Key have switched to advocating for no changes whatsoever-
https://www.change.org/p/arlington-school-board-leave-all-elementary-schools-in-their-current-locations-and-change-boundaries?recruiter=279815821&utm_source=share_petition&utm_medium=copylink&utm_campaign=psf_combo_share_message

That's such a dick move. We can debate which moves make the most sense, but the status quo is just terrible and something needs to change (even if that ends up being my school, which is on the table).

Good for them. No one on this board who isn’t a Key parent has the slightest clue how Key works, the families and students who make Key what it is, or anything else about Key. Key parents are advocating for Key the same as other parents are advocating for their schools and their children. If you think that’s a “dick move,” go suck an egg.

That is such bullshit. Key had a perfectly fine petition going already advocating for Key to stay where it is. They could have stuck with that and simply advocated for themselves in the staff's process rather than throwing every other community that needs changes under the bus by advocating for nothing to change. This petition is is basically a big middle finger to the rest of Arlington, an overt statement that Key families that no one matters but them. Even Nottingham didn't go there.

How does this make them any different than any of the rest of you? Please stop pretending that you all are advocates for anyone other than yourselves. And, above all, please stop pretending that any of you give a sh!t about poor kids when you do everything you can to avoid your own kids associating with them.

I'm the same poster who posted a few pages back about how the guiding decision point on the analysis needed to be which was a higher priority for ED South Arlington families, proximity to neighborhood schools or easier access to choice programs, and who further said that since I live in North Arlington, I don't feel comfortable answering that question for them and would defer to them on which direction it should go. What happens to us (which will be something, even if we stay at our school but there's a boundary shift around us) is secondary to that in my mind.

I'm a South Arlington parent. I'll answer for you. If I'm an UMC parent in the Henry, Oakridge, or Hoffman Boston walk zone, I want walkable neighborhood schools.

If I'm an UMC parent in any of the other zones, I want access to option programs (I am fine with a long bus ride, too, just want to be able to get into one).

If I'm a disadvantaged parent, I will send my kids to school wherever is closest and easiest to get to, don't mind too much if the kid has a short bus trip because then I don't have to walk them, but I want a school that is safe and welcoming, and I don't care so much about the program focus. Wherever we get in to VPI is where kid will go for Kindergarten.

If I am educated immigrant parent, I want access to option programs because we can't afford to live in-bounds to a "good" school, but we moved here just to give the kids a "good" education. So I want access to option programs. Or I'll report a fake address and send kids to the "good" school anyway.

Any questions?

Yes, are you really a south Arlington parent and if so, which category do you belong in?

I am a south Arlington parent. I am what you would probably consider a UMC parent in "any of the other zones" but couldn't care less about access to option programs for my family. I do, however, care about access to high-performing neighborhood schools and access to high-quality option programs for the concentrations of disadvantaged families in SW Arlington.

I appreciate the OP and the genuine desire to consider what's best for the system, rather than what's "best" for OP's family. So unfortunate that people couldn't just respond accordingly. Likewise, I appreciate the responders who have replied in the spirit OP had intended and hoped.

My answer to OP is "both." It shouldn't be one or the other. Just like everyone else everywhere else in the County, access to both. Making CS, Campbell, and Barcroft all option schools will essentially eliminate all walkable neighborhood schools for the entire western end of Columbia Pike. The biggest obstacle to making any positive changes has been the advocacy groups insistence that those communities cannot be broken apart and must have walkable neighborhood schools. I would love to see SB actually have the courage to make some bold changes here. I would support Claremont immersion moving to Carlin Springs and retaining Campbell as a countywide option program. But Key immersion should not move to Barcroft - if it has to move out of NE, it would be better suited to the current ATS site. That will still draw from the concentration of Spanish-speaking families and not eliminate all neighborhood school options for the west end. And it gives south Arlington ED families access to both neighborhood and option programs. I'm sure someone will take issue that Barcroft and Randolph are not "high-performing" schools that I mentioned earlier; but breaking the highest concentration of ED students at CS and opening Claremont as neighborhood, along with new 2019 boundaries around Drew can all have a tremendous impact throughout South Arlington and therefore for all of APS. What a concept.

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Anonymous wrote:Look at the other map they published from the census. Lots of Spanish Speakers around Nottingham.

https://www.apsva.us/wp-content/uploads/2018/05/Language_ACS16_5Year_Count_Census.pdf

Are you planning to put teenagers into an elementary immersion program? That map looks at children 5-17, so roughly elementary through high school. The APS map pp shared reflects only the elementary-aged Spanish-speaking population in the area, which is the relevant consideration for this analysis.

Then why did APS decide to make it an appendix?

They are both relevant. Its about where spanish speaking families are. Right now the only kids impacted by this are maybe 2nd grade and below- more likely 1st grade and below.

I see that the Key parents who live near Key have switched to advocating for no changes whatsoever-
https://www.change.org/p/arlington-school-board-leave-all-elementary-schools-in-their-current-locations-and-change-boundaries?recruiter=279815821&utm_source=share_petition&utm_medium=copylink&utm_campaign=psf_combo_share_message

That's such a dick move. We can debate which moves make the most sense, but the status quo is just terrible and something needs to change (even if that ends up being my school, which is on the table).

Good for them. No one on this board who isn’t a Key parent has the slightest clue how Key works, the families and students who make Key what it is, or anything else about Key. Key parents are advocating for Key the same as other parents are advocating for their schools and their children. If you think that’s a “dick move,” go suck an egg.

That is such bullshit. Key had a perfectly fine petition going already advocating for Key to stay where it is. They could have stuck with that and simply advocated for themselves in the staff's process rather than throwing every other community that needs changes under the bus by advocating for nothing to change. This petition is is basically a big middle finger to the rest of Arlington, an overt statement that Key families that no one matters but them. Even Nottingham didn't go there.

How does this make them any different than any of the rest of you? Please stop pretending that you all are advocates for anyone other than yourselves. And, above all, please stop pretending that any of you give a sh!t about poor kids when you do everything you can to avoid your own kids associating with them.

I'm the same poster who posted a few pages back about how the guiding decision point on the analysis needed to be which was a higher priority for ED South Arlington families, proximity to neighborhood schools or easier access to choice programs, and who further said that since I live in North Arlington, I don't feel comfortable answering that question for them and would defer to them on which direction it should go. What happens to us (which will be something, even if we stay at our school but there's a boundary shift around us) is secondary to that in my mind.

I'm a South Arlington parent. I'll answer for you. If I'm an UMC parent in the Henry, Oakridge, or Hoffman Boston walk zone, I want walkable neighborhood schools.

If I'm an UMC parent in any of the other zones, I want access to option programs (I am fine with a long bus ride, too, just want to be able to get into one).

If I'm a disadvantaged parent, I will send my kids to school wherever is closest and easiest to get to, don't mind too much if the kid has a short bus trip because then I don't have to walk them, but I want a school that is safe and welcoming, and I don't care so much about the program focus. Wherever we get in to VPI is where kid will go for Kindergarten.

If I am educated immigrant parent, I want access to option programs because we can't afford to live in-bounds to a "good" school, but we moved here just to give the kids a "good" education. So I want access to option programs. Or I'll report a fake address and send kids to the "good" school anyway.

Any questions?

Yes, are you really a south Arlington parent and if so, which category do you belong in?

I am a south Arlington parent. I am what you would probably consider a UMC parent in "any of the other zones" but couldn't care less about access to option programs for my family. I do, however, care about access to high-performing neighborhood schools and access to high-quality option programs for the concentrations of disadvantaged families in SW Arlington.

I appreciate the OP and the genuine desire to consider what's best for the system, rather than what's "best" for OP's family. So unfortunate that people couldn't just respond accordingly. Likewise, I appreciate the responders who have replied in the spirit OP had intended and hoped.

My answer to OP is "both." It shouldn't be one or the other. Just like everyone else everywhere else in the County, access to both. Making CS, Campbell, and Barcroft all option schools will essentially eliminate all walkable neighborhood schools for the entire western end of Columbia Pike. The biggest obstacle to making any positive changes has been the advocacy groups insistence that those communities cannot be broken apart and must have walkable neighborhood schools. I would love to see SB actually have the courage to make some bold changes here. I would support Claremont immersion moving to Carlin Springs and retaining Campbell as a countywide option program. But Key immersion should not move to Barcroft - if it has to move out of NE, it would be better suited to the current ATS site. That will still draw from the concentration of Spanish-speaking families and not eliminate all neighborhood school options for the west end. And it gives south Arlington ED families access to both neighborhood and option programs. I'm sure someone will take issue that Barcroft and Randolph are not "high-performing" schools that I mentioned earlier; but breaking the highest concentration of ED students at CS and opening Claremont as neighborhood, along with new 2019 boundaries around Drew can all have a tremendous impact throughout South Arlington and therefore for all of APS. What a concept.

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Anonymous wrote:Look at the other map they published from the census. Lots of Spanish Speakers around Nottingham.

https://www.apsva.us/wp-content/uploads/2018/05/Language_ACS16_5Year_Count_Census.pdf

Are you planning to put teenagers into an elementary immersion program? That map looks at children 5-17, so roughly elementary through high school. The APS map pp shared reflects only the elementary-aged Spanish-speaking population in the area, which is the relevant consideration for this analysis.

Then why did APS decide to make it an appendix?

They are both relevant. Its about where spanish speaking families are. Right now the only kids impacted by this are maybe 2nd grade and below- more likely 1st grade and below.

I see that the Key parents who live near Key have switched to advocating for no changes whatsoever-
https://www.change.org/p/arlington-school-board-leave-all-elementary-schools-in-their-current-locations-and-change-boundaries?recruiter=279815821&utm_source=share_petition&utm_medium=copylink&utm_campaign=psf_combo_share_message

That's such a dick move. We can debate which moves make the most sense, but the status quo is just terrible and something needs to change (even if that ends up being my school, which is on the table).

Good for them. No one on this board who isn’t a Key parent has the slightest clue how Key works, the families and students who make Key what it is, or anything else about Key. Key parents are advocating for Key the same as other parents are advocating for their schools and their children. If you think that’s a “dick move,” go suck an egg.

That is such bullshit. Key had a perfectly fine petition going already advocating for Key to stay where it is. They could have stuck with that and simply advocated for themselves in the staff's process rather than throwing every other community that needs changes under the bus by advocating for nothing to change. This petition is is basically a big middle finger to the rest of Arlington, an overt statement that Key families that no one matters but them. Even Nottingham didn't go there.

How does this make them any different than any of the rest of you? Please stop pretending that you all are advocates for anyone other than yourselves. And, above all, please stop pretending that any of you give a sh!t about poor kids when you do everything you can to avoid your own kids associating with them.

I'm the same poster who posted a few pages back about how the guiding decision point on the analysis needed to be which was a higher priority for ED South Arlington families, proximity to neighborhood schools or easier access to choice programs, and who further said that since I live in North Arlington, I don't feel comfortable answering that question for them and would defer to them on which direction it should go. What happens to us (which will be something, even if we stay at our school but there's a boundary shift around us) is secondary to that in my mind.

I'm a South Arlington parent. I'll answer for you. If I'm an UMC parent in the Henry, Oakridge, or Hoffman Boston walk zone, I want walkable neighborhood schools.

If I'm an UMC parent in any of the other zones, I want access to option programs (I am fine with a long bus ride, too, just want to be able to get into one).

If I'm a disadvantaged parent, I will send my kids to school wherever is closest and easiest to get to, don't mind too much if the kid has a short bus trip because then I don't have to walk them, but I want a school that is safe and welcoming, and I don't care so much about the program focus. Wherever we get in to VPI is where kid will go for Kindergarten.

If I am educated immigrant parent, I want access to option programs because we can't afford to live in-bounds to a "good" school, but we moved here just to give the kids a "good" education. So I want access to option programs. Or I'll report a fake address and send kids to the "good" school anyway.

Any questions?

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Anonymous wrote:Look at the other map they published from the census. Lots of Spanish Speakers around Nottingham.

https://www.apsva.us/wp-content/uploads/2018/05/Language_ACS16_5Year_Count_Census.pdf

Are you planning to put teenagers into an elementary immersion program? That map looks at children 5-17, so roughly elementary through high school. The APS map pp shared reflects only the elementary-aged Spanish-speaking population in the area, which is the relevant consideration for this analysis.

Then why did APS decide to make it an appendix?

They are both relevant. Its about where spanish speaking families are. Right now the only kids impacted by this are maybe 2nd grade and below- more likely 1st grade and below.

I see that the Key parents who live near Key have switched to advocating for no changes whatsoever-
https://www.change.org/p/arlington-school-board-leave-all-elementary-schools-in-their-current-locations-and-change-boundaries?recruiter=279815821&utm_source=share_petition&utm_medium=copylink&utm_campaign=psf_combo_share_message

That's such a dick move. We can debate which moves make the most sense, but the status quo is just terrible and something needs to change (even if that ends up being my school, which is on the table).

Good for them. No one on this board who isn’t a Key parent has the slightest clue how Key works, the families and students who make Key what it is, or anything else about Key. Key parents are advocating for Key the same as other parents are advocating for their schools and their children. If you think that’s a “dick move,” go suck an egg.

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Anonymous wrote:Look at the other map they published from the census. Lots of Spanish Speakers around Nottingham.

https://www.apsva.us/wp-content/uploads/2018/05/Language_ACS16_5Year_Count_Census.pdf

Are you planning to put teenagers into an elementary immersion program? That map looks at children 5-17, so roughly elementary through high school. The APS map pp shared reflects only the elementary-aged Spanish-speaking population in the area, which is the relevant consideration for this analysis.

Then why did APS decide to make it an appendix?

They are both relevant. Its about where spanish speaking families are. Right now the only kids impacted by this are maybe 2nd grade and below- more likely 1st grade and below.

I see that the Key parents who live near Key have switched to advocating for no changes whatsoever-
https://www.change.org/p/arlington-school-board-leave-all-elementary-schools-in-their-current-locations-and-change-boundaries?recruiter=279815821&utm_source=share_petition&utm_medium=copylink&utm_campaign=psf_combo_share_message

That's such a dick move. We can debate which moves make the most sense, but the status quo is just terrible and something needs to change (even if that ends up being my school, which is on the table).

Good for them. No one on this board who isn’t a Key parent has the slightest clue how Key works, the families and students who make Key what it is, or anything else about Key. Key parents are advocating for Key the same as other parents are advocating for their schools and their children. If you think that’s a “dick move,” go suck an egg.

That is such bullshit. Key had a perfectly fine petition going already advocating for Key to stay where it is. They could have stuck with that and simply advocated for themselves in the staff's process rather than throwing every other community that needs changes under the bus by advocating for nothing to change. This petition is is basically a big middle finger to the rest of Arlington, an overt statement that Key families that no one matters but them. Even Nottingham didn't go there.

How does this make them any different than any of the rest of you? Please stop pretending that you all are advocates for anyone other than yourselves. And, above all, please stop pretending that any of you give a sh!t about poor kids when you do everything you can to avoid your own kids associating with them.

I'm the same poster who posted a few pages back about how the guiding decision point on the analysis needed to be which was a higher priority for ED South Arlington families, proximity to neighborhood schools or easier access to choice programs, and who further said that since I live in North Arlington, I don't feel comfortable answering that question for them and would defer to them on which direction it should go. What happens to us (which will be something, even if we stay at our school but there's a boundary shift around us) is secondary to that in my mind.

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Anonymous wrote:Look at the other map they published from the census. Lots of Spanish Speakers around Nottingham.

https://www.apsva.us/wp-content/uploads/2018/05/Language_ACS16_5Year_Count_Census.pdf

Are you planning to put teenagers into an elementary immersion program? That map looks at children 5-17, so roughly elementary through high school. The APS map pp shared reflects only the elementary-aged Spanish-speaking population in the area, which is the relevant consideration for this analysis.

Then why did APS decide to make it an appendix?

They are both relevant. Its about where spanish speaking families are. Right now the only kids impacted by this are maybe 2nd grade and below- more likely 1st grade and below.

I see that the Key parents who live near Key have switched to advocating for no changes whatsoever-
https://www.change.org/p/arlington-school-board-leave-all-elementary-schools-in-their-current-locations-and-change-boundaries?recruiter=279815821&utm_source=share_petition&utm_medium=copylink&utm_campaign=psf_combo_share_message

That's such a dick move. We can debate which moves make the most sense, but the status quo is just terrible and something needs to change (even if that ends up being my school, which is on the table).

Good for them. No one on this board who isn’t a Key parent has the slightest clue how Key works, the families and students who make Key what it is, or anything else about Key. Key parents are advocating for Key the same as other parents are advocating for their schools and their children. If you think that’s a “dick move,” go suck an egg.

That is such bullshit. Key had a perfectly fine petition going already advocating for Key to stay where it is. They could have stuck with that and simply advocated for themselves in the staff's process rather than throwing every other community that needs changes under the bus by advocating for nothing to change. This petition is is basically a big middle finger to the rest of Arlington, an overt statement that Key families that no one matters but them. Even Nottingham didn't go there.

How does this make them any different than any of the rest of you? Please stop pretending that you all are advocates for anyone other than yourselves. And, above all, please stop pretending that any of you give a sh!t about poor kids when you do everything you can to avoid your own kids associating with them.

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Anonymous wrote:Look at the other map they published from the census. Lots of Spanish Speakers around Nottingham.

https://www.apsva.us/wp-content/uploads/2018/05/Language_ACS16_5Year_Count_Census.pdf

Are you planning to put teenagers into an elementary immersion program? That map looks at children 5-17, so roughly elementary through high school. The APS map pp shared reflects only the elementary-aged Spanish-speaking population in the area, which is the relevant consideration for this analysis.

Then why did APS decide to make it an appendix?

They are both relevant. Its about where spanish speaking families are. Right now the only kids impacted by this are maybe 2nd grade and below- more likely 1st grade and below.

I see that the Key parents who live near Key have switched to advocating for no changes whatsoever-
https://www.change.org/p/arlington-school-board-leave-all-elementary-schools-in-their-current-locations-and-change-boundaries?recruiter=279815821&utm_source=share_petition&utm_medium=copylink&utm_campaign=psf_combo_share_message

That's such a dick move. We can debate which moves make the most sense, but the status quo is just terrible and something needs to change (even if that ends up being my school, which is on the table).

Good for them. No one on this board who isn’t a Key parent has the slightest clue how Key works, the families and students who make Key what it is, or anything else about Key. Key parents are advocating for Key the same as other parents are advocating for their schools and their children. If you think that’s a “dick move,” go suck an egg.

That is such bullshit. Key had a perfectly fine petition going already advocating for Key to stay where it is. They could have stuck with that and simply advocated for themselves in the staff's process rather than throwing every other community that needs changes under the bus by advocating for nothing to change. This petition is is basically a big middle finger to the rest of Arlington, an overt statement that Key families that no one matters but them. Even Nottingham didn't go there.

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That's such a dick move. We can debate which moves make the most sense, but the status quo is just terrible and something needs to change (even if that ends up being my school, which is on the table).

I agree- it cries of desperation. Its also very unclear what they mean by status quo-- does that include ASFS and Key sharing a boundary, and ASFS being physically located outside the boundary??? What does that mean for the two new schools coming on line?

I believe it means "Leave us unchanged while our neighbors get split between ASFS and Taylor, even though they don't have cars, because... uh... poor kids who don't have cars or neighborhood preference."

So what are you doing for poor people who don’t have cars?

Neighborhood school at Key. Everybody gets to go!

Well, clearly not everyone, right? Just those in the boundary. Whatever the heck that willl be.

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Anonymous wrote:Look at the other map they published from the census. Lots of Spanish Speakers around Nottingham.

https://www.apsva.us/wp-content/uploads/2018/05/Language_ACS16_5Year_Count_Census.pdf

Are you planning to put teenagers into an elementary immersion program? That map looks at children 5-17, so roughly elementary through high school. The APS map pp shared reflects only the elementary-aged Spanish-speaking population in the area, which is the relevant consideration for this analysis.

Then why did APS decide to make it an appendix?

They are both relevant. Its about where spanish speaking families are. Right now the only kids impacted by this are maybe 2nd grade and below- more likely 1st grade and below.

I see that the Key parents who live near Key have switched to advocating for no changes whatsoever-
https://www.change.org/p/arlington-school-board-leave-all-elementary-schools-in-their-current-locations-and-change-boundaries?recruiter=279815821&utm_source=share_petition&utm_medium=copylink&utm_campaign=psf_combo_share_message

That's such a dick move. We can debate which moves make the most sense, but the status quo is just terrible and something needs to change (even if that ends up being my school, which is on the table).

Good for them. No one on this board who isn’t a Key parent has the slightest clue how Key works, the families and students who make Key what it is, or anything else about Key. Key parents are advocating for Key the same as other parents are advocating for their schools and their children. If you think that’s a “dick move,” go suck an egg.

That is such bullshit. Key had a perfectly fine petition going already advocating for Key to stay where it is. They could have stuck with that and simply advocated for themselves in the staff's process rather than throwing every other community that needs changes under the bus by advocating for nothing to change. This petition is is basically a big middle finger to the rest of Arlington, an overt statement that Key families that no one matters but them. Even Nottingham didn't go there.

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That's such a dick move. We can debate which moves make the most sense, but the status quo is just terrible and something needs to change (even if that ends up being my school, which is on the table).

I agree- it cries of desperation. Its also very unclear what they mean by status quo-- does that include ASFS and Key sharing a boundary, and ASFS being physically located outside the boundary??? What does that mean for the two new schools coming on line?

I believe it means "Leave us unchanged while our neighbors get split between ASFS and Taylor, even though they don't have cars, because... uh... poor kids who don't have cars or neighborhood preference."

So what are you doing for poor people who don’t have cars?

A lot of Key families would be very happy to see them move elsewhere. If keeping Key where it is encourages that, it's one more reason to fight for it.

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That's such a dick move. We can debate which moves make the most sense, but the status quo is just terrible and something needs to change (even if that ends up being my school, which is on the table).

I agree- it cries of desperation. Its also very unclear what they mean by status quo-- does that include ASFS and Key sharing a boundary, and ASFS being physically located outside the boundary??? What does that mean for the two new schools coming on line?

I believe it means "Leave us unchanged while our neighbors get split between ASFS and Taylor, even though they don't have cars, because... uh... poor kids who don't have cars or neighborhood preference."

So what are you doing for poor people who don’t have cars?

A lot of Key families would be very happy to see them move elsewhere. If keeping Key where it is encourages that, it's one more reason to fight for it.

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That's such a dick move. We can debate which moves make the most sense, but the status quo is just terrible and something needs to change (even if that ends up being my school, which is on the table).

I agree- it cries of desperation. Its also very unclear what they mean by status quo-- does that include ASFS and Key sharing a boundary, and ASFS being physically located outside the boundary??? What does that mean for the two new schools coming on line?

I believe it means "Leave us unchanged while our neighbors get split between ASFS and Taylor, even though they don't have cars, because... uh... poor kids who don't have cars or neighborhood preference."

So what are you doing for poor people who don’t have cars?

Neighborhood school at Key. Everybody gets to go!