Anonymous wrote:Kenyon College would be an outstanding two year college affiliated with a major National University as Emory's Oxford (Oxford, Georgia) campus is to Emory University's main campus in Decatur/Atlanta.

If Kenyon College was a feeder into an elite National University such as Dartmouth College, Washington University in St. Louis, or another Top 15 National University, I suspect that it would attract many more highly qualified applicants as a first choice school that would ease the transition from high school / prep school to a university.

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Anonymous wrote:Kenyon College would be an outstanding two year college affiliated with a major National University as Emory's Oxford (Oxford, Georgia) campus is to Emory University's main campus in Decatur/Atlanta.

If Kenyon College was a feeder into an elite National University such as Dartmouth College, Washington University in St. Louis, or another Top 15 National University, I suspect that it would attract many more highly qualified applicants as a first choice school that would ease the transition from high school / prep school to a university.

That is a bit condescending towards Kenyon and sort of an antiquated unrealistic idea. The Dartmouths or Wash U’s get a slightly stronger average academic profile in terms of their average student and have broader offerings by virtue of their size but the quality of education one receives is unlikely all that different.

The quoted poster wrote: "This is a bit condescending towards Kenyon and sort of an antiquated unrealistic idea."

This is precisely the type of attitude that I experienced. A condescending and conclusory remark without any substance. You represent Kenyon well.

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Anonymous wrote:Kenyon College would be an outstanding two year college affiliated with a major National University as Emory's Oxford (Oxford, Georgia) campus is to Emory University's main campus in Decatur/Atlanta.

If Kenyon College was a feeder into an elite National University such as Dartmouth College, Washington University in St. Louis, or another Top 15 National University, I suspect that it would attract many more highly qualified applicants as a first choice school that would ease the transition from high school / prep school to a university.

That is a bit condescending towards Kenyon and sort of an antiquated unrealistic idea. The Dartmouths or Wash U’s get a slightly stronger average academic profile in terms of their average student and have broader offerings by virtue of their size but the quality of education one receives is unlikely all that different.

Anonymous wrote:Kenyon College would be an outstanding two year college affiliated with a major National University as Emory's Oxford (Oxford, Georgia) campus is to Emory University's main campus in Decatur/Atlanta.

If Kenyon College was a feeder into an elite National University such as Dartmouth College, Washington University in St. Louis, or another Top 15 National University, I suspect that it would attract many more highly qualified applicants as a first choice school that would ease the transition from high school / prep school to a university.

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Anonymous wrote:My honest opinion:

If your kid did not go to a private prep school, then Kenyon might be of interest;

If your kid went to a private prep school and targets Kenyon, your kid is an a-hole.

Why? Would this comment relate to all LACs?

Okay. so my comment is a bit extreme. I apologize, but I do not retract my statement that you read.

Elite LACs like Williams, Amherst, Swarthmore, Bowdoin, Wellesley, Pomona, CMC, Middlebury, W&L, Davidson, Barnard, Hamilton, Grinnell, Colby, Vassar, and many others offer great academics and an opportunity to grow. Kenyon is improving because it has expanded from 1,600 students to almost 1,900 students. Unfortunately, Kenyon had an immature attitude of superiority and privilege that was fostered by the admissions dept. Not sure if the admissions head is still the same. It was a woman who displayed little to no respect for Kenyon alumni & thought that she was special because someone at the New ork Times liked her. That attitude permeated the entire campus for at least a decade--and may still be prevalent.

Kenyon has a beautiful campus & decent to strong academics, but it is not in the league of a top National University or of a top 20 LAC.

I know Kenyon well. And I know a few of Kenyon's top supporters. Kenyon does not appreciate these folks--even though all are alums and long-term diehard supporters. I have never experienced anything like the arrogance of Kenyon's head of admissions (maybe former head of admissions). I have not kept up since they dissed a well respected alum who is a lifetime prep school teacher, coach, and administrator. Regardless, the school is still small, isolated, full of preppy type privileged students, and revolves around alcohol & pot, etc.

I have no opinion about Kenyon, but just reading this response you come off as petty to me--like you feel that Kenyon should be kowtowing to its alums whims and now have an axe to grind about it. Also, sort of odd to be sharing this level of personalized detail about a small school.

Fair enough. I understand how you arrived at your impression. The problem with offering one's thoughts is that rather than think about the content some posters seem to prefer to attack the poster in order to avoid issues raised.

Kenyon College is small, but growing. In the past, many felt that the environment was too small and isolated, and drinking was out-of-control. The drinking problem has been addressed in a somewhat aggressive manner by the school--and that is good. Enrollment has been expanded from over 1,600 to over 1,900--which is also a positive move.

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Anonymous wrote:Do they yet have a new president?

He announced he was leaving this fall in December 2022. Maybe a search firm can pull that off to have someone in place for August, but that's not necessarily easy.

Was he ushered out? Seemed very awkward and aloof when we met him.

Not exactly. He got the top job at the Museum of Natural History after raising hundreds of millions for Kenyon and leaving it as strong as it has ever been. Guy was considered a rock star.

These guys interact with thousands of people, like politicians, so tend to be a little stiff.

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Anonymous wrote:My honest opinion:

If your kid did not go to a private prep school, then Kenyon might be of interest;

If your kid went to a private prep school and targets Kenyon, your kid is an a-hole.

Why? Would this comment relate to all LACs?

Okay. so my comment is a bit extreme. I apologize, but I do not retract my statement that you read.

Elite LACs like Williams, Amherst, Swarthmore, Bowdoin, Wellesley, Pomona, CMC, Middlebury, W&L, Davidson, Barnard, Hamilton, Grinnell, Colby, Vassar, and many others offer great academics and an opportunity to grow. Kenyon is improving because it has expanded from 1,600 students to almost 1,900 students. Unfortunately, Kenyon had an immature attitude of superiority and privilege that was fostered by the admissions dept. Not sure if the admissions head is still the same. It was a woman who displayed little to no respect for Kenyon alumni & thought that she was special because someone at the New ork Times liked her. That attitude permeated the entire campus for at least a decade--and may still be prevalent.

Kenyon has a beautiful campus & decent to strong academics, but it is not in the league of a top National University or of a top 20 LAC.

I know Kenyon well. And I know a few of Kenyon's top supporters. Kenyon does not appreciate these folks--even though all are alums and long-term diehard supporters. I have never experienced anything like the arrogance of Kenyon's head of admissions (maybe former head of admissions). I have not kept up since they dissed a well respected alum who is a lifetime prep school teacher, coach, and administrator. Regardless, the school is still small, isolated, full of preppy type privileged students, and revolves around alcohol & pot, etc.

I have no opinion about Kenyon, but just reading this response you come off as petty to me--like you feel that Kenyon should be kowtowing to its alums whims and now have an axe to grind about it. Also, sort of odd to be sharing this level of personalized detail about a small school.

Anonymous wrote:Kenyon has finally displaced Oberlin as the pre-eminent SLAC in Ohio. As much to do with Oberlin's self-inflicted wounds as improvements by Kenyon.

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Anonymous wrote:My honest opinion:

If your kid did not go to a private prep school, then Kenyon might be of interest;

If your kid went to a private prep school and targets Kenyon, your kid is an a-hole.

Why? Would this comment relate to all LACs?

Okay. so my comment is a bit extreme. I apologize, but I do not retract my statement that you read.

Elite LACs like Williams, Amherst, Swarthmore, Bowdoin, Wellesley, Pomona, CMC, Middlebury, W&L, Davidson, Barnard, Hamilton, Grinnell, Colby, Vassar, and many others offer great academics and an opportunity to grow. Kenyon is improving because it has expanded from 1,600 students to almost 1,900 students. Unfortunately, Kenyon had an immature attitude of superiority and privilege that was fostered by the admissions dept. Not sure if the admissions head is still the same. It was a woman who displayed little to no respect for Kenyon alumni & thought that she was special because someone at the New ork Times liked her. That attitude permeated the entire campus for at least a decade--and may still be prevalent.

Kenyon has a beautiful campus & decent to strong academics, but it is not in the league of a top National University or of a top 20 LAC.

I know Kenyon well. And I know a few of Kenyon's top supporters. Kenyon does not appreciate these folks--even though all are alums and long-term diehard supporters. I have never experienced anything like the arrogance of Kenyon's head of admissions (maybe former head of admissions). I have not kept up since they dissed a well respected alum who is a lifetime prep school teacher, coach, and administrator. Regardless, the school is still small, isolated, full of preppy type privileged students, and revolves around alcohol & pot, etc.

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Anonymous wrote:Do they yet have a new president?

Tons of valuable info in this document

https://www.kenyon.edu/files/resources/presidential-search-prospectus-2023.pdf

Yes, I knew of Paul Newman and Allison Janney, but OMG, the lead singer from Walk the Moon went to Kenyon!

Josh Radnor - "How I Met Your Mother"!

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Anonymous wrote:My honest opinion:

If your kid did not go to a private prep school, then Kenyon might be of interest;

If your kid went to a private prep school and targets Kenyon, your kid is an a-hole.

Why? Would this comment relate to all LACs?

Okay. so my comment is a bit extreme. I apologize, but I do not retract my statement that you read.

Elite LACs like Williams, Amherst, Swarthmore, Bowdoin, Wellesley, Pomona, CMC, Middlebury, W&L, Davidson, Barnard, Hamilton, Grinnell, Colby, Vassar, and many others offer great academics and an opportunity to grow. Kenyon is improving because it has expanded from 1,600 students to almost 1,900 students. Unfortunately, Kenyon had an immature attitude of superiority and privilege that was fostered by the admissions dept. Not sure if the admissions head is still the same. It was a woman who displayed little to no respect for Kenyon alumni & thought that she was special because someone at the New ork Times liked her. That attitude permeated the entire campus for at least a decade--and may still be prevalent.

Kenyon has a beautiful campus & decent to strong academics, but it is not in the league of a top National University or of a top 20 LAC.

I know Kenyon well. And I know a few of Kenyon's top supporters. Kenyon does not appreciate these folks--even though all are alums and long-term diehard supporters. I have never experienced anything like the arrogance of Kenyon's head of admissions (maybe former head of admissions). I have not kept up since they dissed a well respected alum who is a lifetime prep school teacher, coach, and administrator. Regardless, the school is still small, isolated, full of preppy type privileged students, and revolves around alcohol & pot, etc.

Hmm. Size wise Kenyon is really no different from these other schools. Maybe a few are a little larger. You can argue the academics are weaker I guess, but most of what you write here seems to be soaked in very specific personal grievances which you are projecting onto a community of thousands of people over many years. It’s hard for me to imagine how an admissions department can foster “an immature attitude of superiority and privilege” even if it tried.

your response is a prime example of the Kenyon attitude.