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Send the National Guard to protect your people, coach

He already has. Keep up.

If an ICE agent harms a national guardsman what even happens after that?

civil war

Anonymous wrote:His name was Alex Pretti. American citizen. ICU nurse at the VA.

https://www.news4jax.com/news/national/2026/01/24/the-man-killed-by-a-federal-officer-in-minneapolis-was-an-icu-nurse-family-says/?fbclid=IwZnRzaAPiE7lleHRuA2FlbQIxMQBzcnRjBmFwcF9pZAo2NjI4NTY4Mzc5AAEeBOhdQRmqaCWLk4f4tJ4hCegZ3hoNQKRlAmLl7th0SvG4_FWR0T3XohIeLIU_aem_N5tSzn-ww5aPxpYYnl0MsQ

not a protestor
not paid
not bused in
not an "illegal"
not a terrorist
carrying a legally licensed gun, but not brandishing it in any manor

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Anonymous wrote:Sometimes I feel like I am living in the twilight zone. I thought small federal govt and second amendment were core conservative values. And then trump came along and flipped it all upside down. Using the federal govt to reach and control everything. And now using gun ownership to justify murder by federal agents. WTF is going on? I am hearing more democrats now mention supporting small govt and gun ownership. Are Republicans replaying 4D chess?

Trump isn’t a real conservative. I think we might be seeing some severe party shifts similar to the southern strategy. We indeed are living in upside down land.

A few conservatives are certainly starting to question things.

The gun rights people might start to catch on. The Admin shouldn’t have lied about this one.

There was a little bit of pushback in the RW sphere with Good, but I think this one is really going to take off. It checks too many boxes.

He was an ICU nurse for the VA. I am an RN. Every nursing social media account I follow is blowing up in anger over this. Mark my words, nurses will be marching nationally over this murder. He was HELPING other people before they attacked him!

ICE better build their owns hospitals. I have a feeling they will be refused treatment.

The thing about healthcare professionals is that we treat the worst of the worst with dignity and hold ourselves accountable if we don't and fail to. That includes our own hospital security officers who deal with patients going off the rails, cussing us out, spitting at us, and attempting to kick us, hit us, etc.

Contrast that with the constant MAGA excuses for complete unprofessionalism, unnecessary use of force and being complete d*cks.

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Anonymous wrote:Why are people out there carrying guns if they aren't going to use them when someone is jumped by a mob and murdered?

What do they things guns do?

Because I doubt he thought it would escalate to that point. He saw an ICE agent repeatedly shoving a woman to the ground and tried to intervene and help her up. The agent then pepper sprayed him at point blank range, he was tackled to the ground and beaten, disarmed, then shot multiple times. It unfolds very quickly, and was entirely unnecessary. They were bullying a woman, and they killed him for stepping in.

Was the woman resisting them and fighting back, to? Was she an illegal? Please tell the entire story.

There is no justification for repeatedly shoving her to the ground. She was not being violent. She was observing. She may have said something the agent didnt like and he shoves her to the ground like a schoolyard bully. You can watch the videos for yourself.

+1 and it doesn’t matter if she was an “illegal”

Of course it matters if she was illegal; she would have been eligible for arrest. That is my question.

I agree that the ICE agents appear to be resorting to hammers when thumbs may be sufficient, at least as a first resort. BUT - there is no excuse for anyone, US citizens or not, to be disrupting them or challenging them in their work. She "may have said something the agent didn't like." I can only imagine what that was.

Who in their right mind would challenge law enforcement officers in that way? If what you're saying is true, she is the person who got this guy killed.

So you don't believe in the right to protest? Just come out and say it and we can argue on that point rather than trying to blame the victims here.

So if the govt randomly changed the law so that your existence here is illegal or just pin something on you because they don't like you or people like you, you would want all of us to just stand by and let it happen right? Make sure you understand what you are really asking for here.

They can't justify the shooting itself given all the video, so they are trying to find another way to blame the protestors

They’re afraid because deep down they know they (the MAGA voters) are the ones to blame.

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Anonymous wrote:The National Guard has now been activated in Minnesota and the Timberwolves basketball game has been postponed. It’s going to be a tough weekend for Minneapolis.

Who cares about basketball when Americans are being murdered in the streets.

at some point, I would hope professional and college athletes would boycott playing until this is over. Imagine not having a super bowl because of trump's thugs.

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Anonymous wrote:Sometimes I feel like I am living in the twilight zone. I thought small federal govt and second amendment were core conservative values. And then trump came along and flipped it all upside down. Using the federal govt to reach and control everything. And now using gun ownership to justify murder by federal agents. WTF is going on? I am hearing more democrats now mention supporting small govt and gun ownership. Are Republicans replaying 4D chess?

Trump isn’t a real conservative. I think we might be seeing some severe party shifts similar to the southern strategy. We indeed are living in upside down land.

A few conservatives are certainly starting to question things.

The gun rights people might start to catch on. The Admin shouldn’t have lied about this one.

There was a little bit of pushback in the RW sphere with Good, but I think this one is really going to take off. It checks too many boxes.

He was an ICU nurse for the VA. I am an RN. Every nursing social media account I follow is blowing up in anger over this. Mark my words, nurses will be marching nationally over this murder. He was HELPING other people before they attacked him!

ICE better build their owns hospitals. I have a feeling they will be refused treatment.

A national nurses strike would be a great start.

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Anonymous wrote:Bovino would any take any questions at the press conference. They know they messed up bad this time.

They accidently murdered as close to a perfect victim as you could find, with as clear video evidence of officer wrong doing as you could get. There really is no explaining this. But if they throw the officers under the bus, they will lose the loyalty of their thugs.

And if they throw this victim under the bus, they are going to have national vehement anger from nurses and doctors and other healthcare professionals.

A good leader would attempt to extinguish the fire. This administration will absolutely throw gasoline on it. I miss good leaders.

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Anonymous wrote:Why are people out there carrying guns if they aren't going to use them when someone is jumped by a mob and murdered?

What do they things guns do?

Because I doubt he thought it would escalate to that point. He saw an ICE agent repeatedly shoving a woman to the ground and tried to intervene and help her up. The agent then pepper sprayed him at point blank range, he was tackled to the ground and beaten, disarmed, then shot multiple times. It unfolds very quickly, and was entirely unnecessary. They were bullying a woman, and they killed him for stepping in.

Was the woman resisting them and fighting back, to? Was she an illegal? Please tell the entire story.

DP she was filming and ICE shoved her to ground. She didn’t touch them at all.

and...filming is not illegal. Documenting the activities of federal employees on public space is not illegal, and is certainly not a crime worth of beatings or death.

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Anonymous wrote:Sometimes I feel like I am living in the twilight zone. I thought small federal govt and second amendment were core conservative values. And then trump came along and flipped it all upside down. Using the federal govt to reach and control everything. And now using gun ownership to justify murder by federal agents. WTF is going on? I am hearing more democrats now mention supporting small govt and gun ownership. Are Republicans replaying 4D chess?

Trump isn’t a real conservative. I think we might be seeing some severe party shifts similar to the southern strategy. We indeed are living in upside down land.

A few conservatives are certainly starting to question things.

The gun rights people might start to catch on. The Admin shouldn’t have lied about this one.

There was a little bit of pushback in the RW sphere with Good, but I think this one is really going to take off. It checks too many boxes.

He was an ICU nurse for the VA. I am an RN. Every nursing social media account I follow is blowing up in anger over this. Mark my words, nurses will be marching nationally over this murder. He was HELPING other people before they attacked him!

ICE better build their owns hospitals. I have a feeling they will be refused treatment.

Anonymous wrote:Bovino would any take any questions at the press conference. They know they messed up bad this time.

They accidently murdered as close to a perfect victim as you could find, with as clear video evidence of officer wrong doing as you could get. There really is no explaining this. But if they throw the officers under the bus, they will lose the loyalty of their thugs.

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Anonymous wrote:The feds didn’t let local authorities investigate the crime scene, they took away several eyewitnesses, and they confiscated the phones of eyewitnesses. No doubt they probably took the victim’s phone as well. What are they hiding?

The ICE officers knew it was bad right then and there.

They probably want to charge them with felony murder and say they were violently obstructing:

felony murder rule
The felony murder rule is a law in most states and under federal law that allows anyone who is accused of committing a violent felony to be charged with murder if the commission of that felony results in the death of someone. The people involved in the felony may be charged for murder under the rule even if they had no intention of killing someone. For example, if A and B attempt to rob a store and A accidentally killed an employee when breaking through a window, then both A and B could be charged with murder through the felony murder rule, even though B did not kill a person and A did not intend the outcome.

Someone mentioned the two women who were detained who assisted the agent who had a seizure (actually multiple seizures, the woman who took charge has a family member with epilepsy). Here's the interview with the women:

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Anonymous wrote:Sometimes I feel like I am living in the twilight zone. I thought small federal govt and second amendment were core conservative values. And then trump came along and flipped it all upside down. Using the federal govt to reach and control everything. And now using gun ownership to justify murder by federal agents. WTF is going on? I am hearing more democrats now mention supporting small govt and gun ownership. Are Republicans replaying 4D chess?

Trump isn’t a real conservative. I think we might be seeing some severe party shifts similar to the southern strategy. We indeed are living in upside down land.

A few conservatives are certainly starting to question things.

The gun rights people might start to catch on. The Admin shouldn’t have lied about this one.

There was a little bit of pushback in the RW sphere with Good, but I think this one is really going to take off. It checks too many boxes.

Right? The victim is exactly the hero they all believe themselves to be in their minds. An educated white guy, who spends his days caring for veterans, legally carrying is murdered by our government protecting an innocent white woman, and the government blatantly and obviously lies about it? It will break their brains.

Notice how the MAGA trolls/bots have completely disappeared since the latest series of videos came out. They can't reconcile the crystal clear video, the inconvenient fact set, etc. with the lies they wanted to push.

I'm positive they picked up the lady in the red/pink coat who was filing, and hoped they'd be able to suppress her video (and possibly get rid of her ability to testify by disappearing her or treating her roughly and later saying she was resisting arrest).

It was likely only due to the fact that she had already been able to upload her video that she was even released.

she is a hero

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Anonymous wrote:Sometimes I feel like I am living in the twilight zone. I thought small federal govt and second amendment were core conservative values. And then trump came along and flipped it all upside down. Using the federal govt to reach and control everything. And now using gun ownership to justify murder by federal agents. WTF is going on? I am hearing more democrats now mention supporting small govt and gun ownership. Are Republicans replaying 4D chess?

Trump isn’t a real conservative. I think we might be seeing some severe party shifts similar to the southern strategy. We indeed are living in upside down land.

A few conservatives are certainly starting to question things.

The gun rights people might start to catch on. The Admin shouldn’t have lied about this one.

There was a little bit of pushback in the RW sphere with Good, but I think this one is really going to take off. It checks too many boxes.

He was an ICU nurse for the VA. I am an RN. Every nursing social media account I follow is blowing up in anger over this. Mark my words, nurses will be marching nationally over this murder. He was HELPING other people before they attacked him!

It's the top item in my medpage today notification email.

Anonymous wrote:The feds didn’t let local authorities investigate the crime scene, they took away several eyewitnesses, and they confiscated the phones of eyewitnesses. No doubt they probably took the victim’s phone as well. What are they hiding?

The ICE officers knew it was bad right then and there.