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Anonymous wrote:Nationals shot themselves in the foot.
Now they are just a middle of the pack club in a stacked conference.

Before, their matches against Lou Fusz, NEFC, TopHat, CUP et al used to attract 100+ colleges.

Now they might not even see the ecnl playoffs in some age groups…

Are you arguing that nationals players will get less exposure in ECNL than they did in GA?

I am yes. In GA they usually put multiple teams in GA playoffs and they did well. Let’s say only 300 college coaches at GA instead of the 400 at ECNL. So they got in front of 300 coaches at the highest levels of GA. Now, at ECNL, several teams miss playoffs because they play Hawks, SBV, SLSG, Eclipse so they are not getting the 400 because they dont even make the trip. It is not calculus.

Hence the argument you would rather be a GA playoff team than an ECNL team that does not make the playoffs.

Except it doesn’t work that way. The playoff event is also a showcase, so every team can go even if they don’t qualify for the playoff bracket. Nationals will be there with the 400 scouts no matter where they finish. GA works the same way. If you have been through the process you would realize this. Only pre-HS age parents think you need to be on a winning team to get exposure.

The only person that doesnt know how the playoffs/showcases work might be you. Yes, there are showcases alongside the first rounds of playoofs for the “loser” teams. A-Z tiers. Guess which games the scouts go to? They go to SD Surf vs SLSG playoff game………not FC Wisconsin vs Utah Avalanche Tier W game…………..I have been on both sides of the trade. There aren’t any scouts going to the latter game………….

Oh, and tons of scouts go to the final rounds of playoffs, you know those games that DONT have a showcase attached to them…………

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We were in a showcase in the key recruiting time. Not playoffs. We had 125 coaches.

We also went to final around of playoffs. Not well attended by scouts.

Hahaha, you're trying to argue that scouts prefer lower level teams than the best in the nation.

Come on, take a step back and think about what you're shoveling.

Notice every time you run into a wall of facts from actual experience, you try to shift the subject with a strawman argument.

“you’re trying to argue scouts prefer lower level teams!” No, we said that scouts don’t care about the level of teams.

“Are you arguing that nationals players will get less exposure in ECNL than they did in GA?” No, we said they will get all the exposure they need in both.

From the way you post I can tell you probably have a U14 or U15 player. You’re a club hopper and are probably driving a longer distance than necessary just to be on an ECNL team that wins more games because you think that matters. You think your daughter is better than she is. The club and coaches let you believe that to keep you paying. You put down other clubs and leagues on an anonymous forum to convince yourself it’s all worth it. In a few years you’ll blame everyone else why your daughter didn’t become a national star.

Nope not even close.

My kid has played at the same local GA club since she was 5. (Always on the top team) Also she starts most games even as a trapped player. We have checked out local ECNL clubs over the years and know that the grass isn't greener.

I'm not sure where you got the negative assessment from. You might want to look inward for that.

Reguarding league events and which games scouts attend. Sorry to be the one that brings you to reality. However the top teams and big games are the ones that have the most scout attendance. Not the random games and clubs.

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Anonymous wrote:Nationals shot themselves in the foot.
Now they are just a middle of the pack club in a stacked conference.

Before, their matches against Lou Fusz, NEFC, TopHat, CUP et al used to attract 100+ colleges.

Now they might not even see the ecnl playoffs in some age groups…

Are you arguing that nationals players will get less exposure in ECNL than they did in GA?

I am yes. In GA they usually put multiple teams in GA playoffs and they did well. Let’s say only 300 college coaches at GA instead of the 400 at ECNL. So they got in front of 300 coaches at the highest levels of GA. Now, at ECNL, several teams miss playoffs because they play Hawks, SBV, SLSG, Eclipse so they are not getting the 400 because they dont even make the trip. It is not calculus.

Hence the argument you would rather be a GA playoff team than an ECNL team that does not make the playoffs.

Except it doesn’t work that way. The playoff event is also a showcase, so every team can go even if they don’t qualify for the playoff bracket. Nationals will be there with the 400 scouts no matter where they finish. GA works the same way. If you have been through the process you would realize this. Only pre-HS age parents think you need to be on a winning team to get exposure.

The only person that doesnt know how the playoffs/showcases work might be you. Yes, there are showcases alongside the first rounds of playoofs for the “loser” teams. A-Z tiers. Guess which games the scouts go to? They go to SD Surf vs SLSG playoff game………not FC Wisconsin vs Utah Avalanche Tier W game…………..I have been on both sides of the trade. There aren’t any scouts going to the latter game………….

Oh, and tons of scouts go to the final rounds of playoffs, you know those games that DONT have a showcase attached to them…………

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We were in a showcase in the key recruiting time. Not playoffs. We had 125 coaches.

We also went to final around of playoffs. Not well attended by scouts.

Hahaha, you're trying to argue that scouts prefer lower level teams than the best in the nation.

Come on, take a step back and think about what you're shoveling.

Notice every time you run into a wall of facts from actual experience, you try to shift the subject with a strawman argument.

“you’re trying to argue scouts prefer lower level teams!” No, we said that scouts don’t care about the level of teams.

“Are you arguing that nationals players will get less exposure in ECNL than they did in GA?” No, we said they will get all the exposure they need in both.

From the way you post I can tell you probably have a U14 or U15 player. You’re a club hopper and are probably driving a longer distance than necessary just to be on an ECNL team that wins more games because you think that matters. You think your daughter is better than she is. The club and coaches let you believe that to keep you paying. You put down other clubs and leagues on an anonymous forum to convince yourself it’s all worth it. In a few years you’ll blame everyone else why your daughter didn’t become a national star.

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Anonymous wrote:Nationals shot themselves in the foot.
Now they are just a middle of the pack club in a stacked conference.

Before, their matches against Lou Fusz, NEFC, TopHat, CUP et al used to attract 100+ colleges.

Now they might not even see the ecnl playoffs in some age groups…

Are you arguing that nationals players will get less exposure in ECNL than they did in GA?

I am yes. In GA they usually put multiple teams in GA playoffs and they did well. Let’s say only 300 college coaches at GA instead of the 400 at ECNL. So they got in front of 300 coaches at the highest levels of GA. Now, at ECNL, several teams miss playoffs because they play Hawks, SBV, SLSG, Eclipse so they are not getting the 400 because they dont even make the trip. It is not calculus.

Hence the argument you would rather be a GA playoff team than an ECNL team that does not make the playoffs.

Except it doesn’t work that way. The playoff event is also a showcase, so every team can go even if they don’t qualify for the playoff bracket. Nationals will be there with the 400 scouts no matter where they finish. GA works the same way. If you have been through the process you would realize this. Only pre-HS age parents think you need to be on a winning team to get exposure.

The only person that doesnt know how the playoffs/showcases work might be you. Yes, there are showcases alongside the first rounds of playoofs for the “loser” teams. A-Z tiers. Guess which games the scouts go to? They go to SD Surf vs SLSG playoff game………not FC Wisconsin vs Utah Avalanche Tier W game…………..I have been on both sides of the trade. There aren’t any scouts going to the latter game………….

Oh, and tons of scouts go to the final rounds of playoffs, you know those games that DONT have a showcase attached to them…………

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We were in a showcase in the key recruiting time. Not playoffs. We had 125 coaches.

We also went to final around of playoffs. Not well attended by scouts.

Hahaha, you're trying to argue that scouts prefer lower level teams than the best in the nation.

Come on, take a step back and think about what you're shoveling.

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Anonymous wrote:Nationals shot themselves in the foot.
Now they are just a middle of the pack club in a stacked conference.

Before, their matches against Lou Fusz, NEFC, TopHat, CUP et al used to attract 100+ colleges.

Now they might not even see the ecnl playoffs in some age groups…

Are you arguing that nationals players will get less exposure in ECNL than they did in GA?

They will get the same exposure… Only difference is that now they won’t be adding anymore trophies to their resume. As long as Michigan Hawks stay in ecnl.

The Nationals actually bring the Hawks a healthy bit of competition in SE Michigan that's good for soccer in the state. The Hawks have leveraged their own history to a big recruiting advantage in Michigan and until recently -- a few other clubs also have been added -- were the only pathway for ECNL (Might be just a rumor but the scuttlebutt was they supposedly fought tooth and nail these expansions to keep this edge).

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Anonymous wrote:Nationals shot themselves in the foot.
Now they are just a middle of the pack club in a stacked conference.

Before, their matches against Lou Fusz, NEFC, TopHat, CUP et al used to attract 100+ colleges.

Now they might not even see the ecnl playoffs in some age groups…

Are you arguing that nationals players will get less exposure in ECNL than they did in GA?

They will get the same exposure… Only difference is that now they won’t be adding anymore trophies to their resume. As long as Michigan Hawks stay in ecnl.

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Anonymous wrote:Things I believe to be true

1. The GA/MLSN, while meaningful, will not fundamentally change the landscape
2. I would MUCH rather be a GA playoff team than a 500 ECNL team.
3. If I had a choice between a GA and an ECNL playoff team I would choose ECNL
4. A majority of top teams on both sides are talent aggregators, not talent developers. The true development comes outside of 1.5 hours of club practice 3X a week
5. US Soccer/GA/ECNL need an outlet for kids that are truly all in on elite soccer so kids dont have to patchwork quilt S&C, technical development, film study, tactics, team play, etc.
6. There has to be a way to play competitive games without spending 2K in travel 15 times a year to play league games and another 3-4K to go play a 4-5 day long showcase/playoff event
7. We should get “for profit” clubs out of youth sports. Their mission is fundamentally misaligned with youth development. I know of an alphabet club that is 2X more expensive than their closest 401c3 rival and that rival has better coaching standards, better fields, better programming and better admin. You cant tell me that is better for youth sports.

Points make some sense other than 2. You would still want to be on an Ecnl team for the exposure. On the GA playoff team your 1-8 or even 1-11 may be fine. The bottom of your team is not being recruited. Bottom of bad Ecnl teams are still being recruited.

Top 2-3 of GA teams in most conferences better than bottom half of ECNL teams in overlapping geography across most age groups. Not always but most of the time. Pretty simple to look up results.

It also depends on the conference. Certain GA conferences are better than others. Just like ECNL. Many of the top GA conference winners would beat ECNL conference winners. It all depends on what's being compared.

This is why many GA parents get annoyed with the coat tail ECNL parents who's kids play on sucky ECNL teams but love to comment online about how ECNL is somehow "better". Sorry, the ability to get blown out week after week isn't an attribute.

ECNL conference winners would wipe the floor with GA conference winners. Nationals (Michigan) was a perennial powerhouse with multiple team national championships and several overall club national championships. Take a look at Midwest standings. They’re doing fine but nowhere near their success in GA.

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Anonymous wrote:Nationals shot themselves in the foot.
Now they are just a middle of the pack club in a stacked conference.

Before, their matches against Lou Fusz, NEFC, TopHat, CUP et al used to attract 100+ colleges.

Now they might not even see the ecnl playoffs in some age groups…

Are you arguing that nationals players will get less exposure in ECNL than they did in GA?

I am yes. In GA they usually put multiple teams in GA playoffs and they did well. Let’s say only 300 college coaches at GA instead of the 400 at ECNL. So they got in front of 300 coaches at the highest levels of GA. Now, at ECNL, several teams miss playoffs because they play Hawks, SBV, SLSG, Eclipse so they are not getting the 400 because they dont even make the trip. It is not calculus.

Hence the argument you would rather be a GA playoff team than an ECNL team that does not make the playoffs.

Except it doesn’t work that way. The playoff event is also a showcase, so every team can go even if they don’t qualify for the playoff bracket. Nationals will be there with the 400 scouts no matter where they finish. GA works the same way. If you have been through the process you would realize this. Only pre-HS age parents think you need to be on a winning team to get exposure.

The only person that doesnt know how the playoffs/showcases work might be you. Yes, there are showcases alongside the first rounds of playoofs for the “loser” teams. A-Z tiers. Guess which games the scouts go to? They go to SD Surf vs SLSG playoff game………not FC Wisconsin vs Utah Avalanche Tier W game…………..I have been on both sides of the trade. There aren’t any scouts going to the latter game………….

Oh, and tons of scouts go to the final rounds of playoffs, you know those games that DONT have a showcase attached to them…………

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We were in a showcase in the key recruiting time. Not playoffs. We had 125 coaches.

We also went to final around of playoffs. Not well attended by scouts.

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Anonymous wrote:Nationals shot themselves in the foot.
Now they are just a middle of the pack club in a stacked conference.

Before, their matches against Lou Fusz, NEFC, TopHat, CUP et al used to attract 100+ colleges.

Now they might not even see the ecnl playoffs in some age groups…

Are you arguing that nationals players will get less exposure in ECNL than they did in GA?

I am yes. In GA they usually put multiple teams in GA playoffs and they did well. Let’s say only 300 college coaches at GA instead of the 400 at ECNL. So they got in front of 300 coaches at the highest levels of GA. Now, at ECNL, several teams miss playoffs because they play Hawks, SBV, SLSG, Eclipse so they are not getting the 400 because they dont even make the trip. It is not calculus.

Hence the argument you would rather be a GA playoff team than an ECNL team that does not make the playoffs.

Except it doesn’t work that way. The playoff event is also a showcase, so every team can go even if they don’t qualify for the playoff bracket. Nationals will be there with the 400 scouts no matter where they finish. GA works the same way. If you have been through the process you would realize this. Only pre-HS age parents think you need to be on a winning team to get exposure.

The only person that doesnt know how the playoffs/showcases work might be you. Yes, there are showcases alongside the first rounds of playoofs for the “loser” teams. A-Z tiers. Guess which games the scouts go to? They go to SD Surf vs SLSG playoff game………not FC Wisconsin vs Utah Avalanche Tier W game…………..I have been on both sides of the trade. There aren’t any scouts going to the latter game………….

Oh, and tons of scouts go to the final rounds of playoffs, you know those games that DONT have a showcase attached to them…………

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Anonymous wrote:Nationals shot themselves in the foot.
Now they are just a middle of the pack club in a stacked conference.

Before, their matches against Lou Fusz, NEFC, TopHat, CUP et al used to attract 100+ colleges.

Now they might not even see the ecnl playoffs in some age groups…

Are you arguing that nationals players will get less exposure in ECNL than they did in GA?

I am yes. In GA they usually put multiple teams in GA playoffs and they did well. Let’s say only 300 college coaches at GA instead of the 400 at ECNL. So they got in front of 300 coaches at the highest levels of GA. Now, at ECNL, several teams miss playoffs because they play Hawks, SBV, SLSG, Eclipse so they are not getting the 400 because they dont even make the trip. It is not calculus.

Hence the argument you would rather be a GA playoff team than an ECNL team that does not make the playoffs.

Except it doesn’t work that way. The playoff event is also a showcase, so every team can go even if they don’t qualify for the playoff bracket. Nationals will be there with the 400 scouts no matter where they finish. GA works the same way. If you have been through the process you would realize this. Only pre-HS age parents think you need to be on a winning team to get exposure.

The only person that doesnt know how the playoffs/showcases work might be you. Yes, there are showcases alongside the first rounds of playoofs for the “loser” teams. A-Z tiers. Guess which games the scouts go to? They go to SD Surf vs SLSG playoff game………not FC Wisconsin vs Utah Avalanche Tier W game…………..I have been on both sides of the trade. There aren’t any scouts going to the latter game………….

Oh, and tons of scouts go to the final rounds of playoffs, you know those games that DONT have a showcase attached to them…………

Haha, so true.

It's nice that the ECNL hats are getting called out on their BS.

Here's another FYI. SD Surf and SLSG players already have 2-3 offers on the table. After files this summer they'll have even more. Same thing for the top GA players. Everyone else will have to market themselves to get on recruiters radar.

If you're a lower level club just excited to be at the main event keep in mind that you're there to pick up the check nothing more.

Recruiters are there to see specific players who they have been in contact with before the events. They have seen their highlights, had them at their camps. They don’t just watch playoff games and randomly identify players they see. Marketing yourself is how it works. They don’t care which field you are on.

Some people are beyond help. Let them keep attending hoping their kid gets “discovered” in 12th grade… and then when they don’t get discovered and are playing water boy/girl for a mid-major, they’ll be back on here raging about how they should have changed back to SY earlier for their trapped child.

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Anonymous wrote:Nationals shot themselves in the foot.
Now they are just a middle of the pack club in a stacked conference.

Before, their matches against Lou Fusz, NEFC, TopHat, CUP et al used to attract 100+ colleges.

Now they might not even see the ecnl playoffs in some age groups…

Are you arguing that nationals players will get less exposure in ECNL than they did in GA?

I am yes. In GA they usually put multiple teams in GA playoffs and they did well. Let’s say only 300 college coaches at GA instead of the 400 at ECNL. So they got in front of 300 coaches at the highest levels of GA. Now, at ECNL, several teams miss playoffs because they play Hawks, SBV, SLSG, Eclipse so they are not getting the 400 because they dont even make the trip. It is not calculus.

Hence the argument you would rather be a GA playoff team than an ECNL team that does not make the playoffs.

Except it doesn’t work that way. The playoff event is also a showcase, so every team can go even if they don’t qualify for the playoff bracket. Nationals will be there with the 400 scouts no matter where they finish. GA works the same way. If you have been through the process you would realize this. Only pre-HS age parents think you need to be on a winning team to get exposure.

The only person that doesnt know how the playoffs/showcases work might be you. Yes, there are showcases alongside the first rounds of playoofs for the “loser” teams. A-Z tiers. Guess which games the scouts go to? They go to SD Surf vs SLSG playoff game………not FC Wisconsin vs Utah Avalanche Tier W game…………..I have been on both sides of the trade. There aren’t any scouts going to the latter game………….

Oh, and tons of scouts go to the final rounds of playoffs, you know those games that DONT have a showcase attached to them…………

Haha, so true.

It's nice that the ECNL hats are getting called out on their BS.

Here's another FYI. SD Surf and SLSG players already have 2-3 offers on the table. After files this summer they'll have even more. Same thing for the top GA players. Everyone else will have to market themselves to get on recruiters radar.

If you're a lower level club just excited to be at the main event keep in mind that you're there to pick up the check nothing more.

Recruiters are there to see specific players who they have been in contact with before the events. They have seen their highlights, had them at their camps. They don’t just watch playoff games and randomly identify players they see. Marketing yourself is how it works. They don’t care which field you are on.

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Anonymous wrote:Nationals shot themselves in the foot.
Now they are just a middle of the pack club in a stacked conference.

Before, their matches against Lou Fusz, NEFC, TopHat, CUP et al used to attract 100+ colleges.

Now they might not even see the ecnl playoffs in some age groups…

Are you arguing that nationals players will get less exposure in ECNL than they did in GA?

I am yes. In GA they usually put multiple teams in GA playoffs and they did well. Let’s say only 300 college coaches at GA instead of the 400 at ECNL. So they got in front of 300 coaches at the highest levels of GA. Now, at ECNL, several teams miss playoffs because they play Hawks, SBV, SLSG, Eclipse so they are not getting the 400 because they dont even make the trip. It is not calculus.

Hence the argument you would rather be a GA playoff team than an ECNL team that does not make the playoffs.

Except it doesn’t work that way. The playoff event is also a showcase, so every team can go even if they don’t qualify for the playoff bracket. Nationals will be there with the 400 scouts no matter where they finish. GA works the same way. If you have been through the process you would realize this. Only pre-HS age parents think you need to be on a winning team to get exposure.

The only person that doesnt know how the playoffs/showcases work might be you. Yes, there are showcases alongside the first rounds of playoofs for the “loser” teams. A-Z tiers. Guess which games the scouts go to? They go to SD Surf vs SLSG playoff game………not FC Wisconsin vs Utah Avalanche Tier W game…………..I have been on both sides of the trade. There aren’t any scouts going to the latter game………….

Oh, and tons of scouts go to the final rounds of playoffs, you know those games that DONT have a showcase attached to them…………

Haha, so true.

It's nice that the ECNL hats are getting called out on their BS.

Here's another FYI. SD Surf and SLSG players already have 2-3 offers on the table. After files this summer they'll have even more. Same thing for the top GA players. Everyone else will have to market themselves to get on recruiters radar.

If you're a lower level club just excited to be at the main event keep in mind that you're there to pick up the check nothing more.

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Anonymous wrote:Nationals shot themselves in the foot.
Now they are just a middle of the pack club in a stacked conference.

Before, their matches against Lou Fusz, NEFC, TopHat, CUP et al used to attract 100+ colleges.

Now they might not even see the ecnl playoffs in some age groups…

Are you arguing that nationals players will get less exposure in ECNL than they did in GA?

I am yes. In GA they usually put multiple teams in GA playoffs and they did well. Let’s say only 300 college coaches at GA instead of the 400 at ECNL. So they got in front of 300 coaches at the highest levels of GA. Now, at ECNL, several teams miss playoffs because they play Hawks, SBV, SLSG, Eclipse so they are not getting the 400 because they dont even make the trip. It is not calculus.

Hence the argument you would rather be a GA playoff team than an ECNL team that does not make the playoffs.

Except it doesn’t work that way. The playoff event is also a showcase, so every team can go even if they don’t qualify for the playoff bracket. Nationals will be there with the 400 scouts no matter where they finish. GA works the same way. If you have been through the process you would realize this. Only pre-HS age parents think you need to be on a winning team to get exposure.

The only person that doesnt know how the playoffs/showcases work might be you. Yes, there are showcases alongside the first rounds of playoofs for the “loser” teams. A-Z tiers. Guess which games the scouts go to? They go to SD Surf vs SLSG playoff game………not FC Wisconsin vs Utah Avalanche Tier W game…………..I have been on both sides of the trade. There aren’t any scouts going to the latter game………….

Oh, and tons of scouts go to the final rounds of playoffs, you know those games that DONT have a showcase attached to them…………

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Anonymous wrote:Nationals shot themselves in the foot.
Now they are just a middle of the pack club in a stacked conference.

Before, their matches against Lou Fusz, NEFC, TopHat, CUP et al used to attract 100+ colleges.

Now they might not even see the ecnl playoffs in some age groups…

Are you arguing that nationals players will get less exposure in ECNL than they did in GA?

I am yes. In GA they usually put multiple teams in GA playoffs and they did well. Let’s say only 300 college coaches at GA instead of the 400 at ECNL. So they got in front of 300 coaches at the highest levels of GA. Now, at ECNL, several teams miss playoffs because they play Hawks, SBV, SLSG, Eclipse so they are not getting the 400 because they dont even make the trip. It is not calculus.

Hence the argument you would rather be a GA playoff team than an ECNL team that does not make the playoffs.

Except it doesn’t work that way. The playoff event is also a showcase, so every team can go even if they don’t qualify for the playoff bracket. Nationals will be there with the 400 scouts no matter where they finish. GA works the same way. If you have been through the process you would realize this. Only pre-HS age parents think you need to be on a winning team to get exposure.

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Anonymous wrote:Nationals shot themselves in the foot.
Now they are just a middle of the pack club in a stacked conference.

Before, their matches against Lou Fusz, NEFC, TopHat, CUP et al used to attract 100+ colleges.

Now they might not even see the ecnl playoffs in some age groups…

Are you arguing that nationals players will get less exposure in ECNL than they did in GA?

I am yes. In GA they usually put multiple teams in GA playoffs and they did well. Let’s say only 300 college coaches at GA instead of the 400 at ECNL. So they got in front of 300 coaches at the highest levels of GA. Now, at ECNL, several teams miss playoffs because they play Hawks, SBV, SLSG, Eclipse so they are not getting the 400 because they dont even make the trip. It is not calculus.

Hence the argument you would rather be a GA playoff team than an ECNL team that does not make the playoffs.

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Anonymous wrote:Nationals shot themselves in the foot.
Now they are just a middle of the pack club in a stacked conference.

Before, their matches against Lou Fusz, NEFC, TopHat, CUP et al used to attract 100+ colleges.

Now they might not even see the ecnl playoffs in some age groups…

Are you arguing that nationals players will get less exposure in ECNL than they did in GA?

They will get the same exposure… Only difference is that now they won’t be adding anymore trophies to their resume. As long as Michigan Hawks stay in ecnl.

Same exposure and level of competition in GA vs ECNL? LOL