Bickering aside, it's objectively true that if you compare the credentials of Trump's current nominee for Sec of Defense with those of the two that served in his first term (he had three but the third one was an acting Sec of Def), the ones from his first term (Mattis, Esper) have superior credentials. You can read about them in the link below.

The difference this time around--and what concerns people in the military establishment and others--is that Hedgseth is not only much less qualified (lack of commanding experience aside, he doesn't have much managerial experience) but seems to have been chosen primarily because he will do whatever Trump tells him and he does a good job on TV. This time around, Trump has been very deliberate about choosing "yes men" (and women) who are loyal to him rather than to the country. The first time around he selected more conventional appointees that were recommended to him by the GOP establishment.


https://history.defense.gov/DOD-History/Secretaries-of-Defense/

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Anonymous wrote:Not that MAGA cares or anything, but because of their emphasis on family values, I think it’s interesting to note that he’s on his third wife, like Trump. The third wife was his affair partner while he was married to the second wife.

Yes, not that I care or anything.

Biden had three children, two of which turned out to be drug addicted.

Kamala's husband, Doug Emhoff, slaps women.


Get off the cross. We need the wood.

DP. Thank you. So sick of sanctimonious liberals who pretend to be pious and holier-than-thou, all while peddling their own complete sh!tshow - one that the nation has rejected soundly.

DP. Are you unfamiliar with the military? They actually have rules about all of this stuff - the Secretary of Defense should know about them and follow them, right?

Old news. The affair he had a decade ago is irrelevant now. Sure, if he has another affair while SoD and starts sharing classified documents with his mistress and compromising security, David Petraeus style, that’s a different story. We’ll see if he can keep his parts to himself.

DP. I forgot about David Petraeus - appointed by Obama, btw.

Didn’t Petraeus resign?

And he was widely respected as an extreme professional until the affair- he had a huge fall from grace then.

A woman made a sexual assault allegation against Pete in Monterey CA in 2017.

According to two sources, Wiles was briefed Wednesday night about an allegation that Hegseth had acted inappropriately with a woman. One of the sources said the alleged incident took place in Monterey, California in 2017.

According to the transition source, the allegation is serious enough that Wiles and Trump’s lawyers spoke to Hegseth about it on Thursday. A source with knowledge of the meeting said that Hegseth said the allegation stemmed from a consensual encounter and characterized the episode as he-said, she-said.

On Thursday evening, Hegseth’s lawyer Timothy Parlatore said: “This allegation was already investigated by the Monterey police department and they found no evidence for it.”

https://www.vanityfair.com/news/story/pete-hegseth-misconduct-allegation-meeting

There will be other allegations, just wait.

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Anonymous wrote:Not that MAGA cares or anything, but because of their emphasis on family values, I think it’s interesting to note that he’s on his third wife, like Trump. The third wife was his affair partner while he was married to the second wife.

Yes, not that I care or anything.

Biden had three children, two of which turned out to be drug addicted.

Kamala's husband, Doug Emhoff, slaps women.


Get off the cross. We need the wood.

DP. Thank you. So sick of sanctimonious liberals who pretend to be pious and holier-than-thou, all while peddling their own complete sh!tshow - one that the nation has rejected soundly.

DP. Are you unfamiliar with the military? They actually have rules about all of this stuff - the Secretary of Defense should know about them and follow them, right?

The only time I’ve seen a service member punished for an affair under UCMJ was if the affair partner was another service member’s spouse (makes for some hard feelings at work!) or if the affair partner was also a service member and it was fraternization, or if the affair comprised their duty/mission/security.

A National Gaurd solider having an affair with a civilian is unlikely to be prosecuted, which is exactly why he wasn’t.

They don’t necessarily get punished under UCMJ, but they do get sidelined. And the stigma that comes with making bad decisions follows them professionally. It’s going to require some serious acting skills for the JCS to pretend to respect this guy.

Oh, please. Absolutely no doubt plenty of these people have their own skeletons.
DP

Yeah, there are likely more affair partners of senate members than there are of members themselves, if you totaled them up.

According to many DCUM posters, affairs and babies born to single mothers are no big deal.

For the millionth time, there are actually rules about this in the military. And consequences. I get that only 1% serve, but the fact that the military has different rules than the rest of the population is pretty elementary.

Like Gen. Petraeus getting an Army Distinguished Service Medal when he retired with a yearly pension of over $200,000?

That WAS a scandal. And it shouldn’t shock you that people at that level get away with more than a Major or Lt Col. It’s not right, but it true. Flynn was a traitor and shouldn’t have his rank or retirement either. He should be in Leavenworth.

Yes, that POS got away with it. The officer he had the affair with got kicked out of the military with no retirement. I wonder why the different treatment....hmmm....let me think....

Like I said, it’s not right but this has been true since forever. You’re conflating issues.

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Anonymous wrote:Not that MAGA cares or anything, but because of their emphasis on family values, I think it’s interesting to note that he’s on his third wife, like Trump. The third wife was his affair partner while he was married to the second wife.

Yes, not that I care or anything.

Biden had three children, two of which turned out to be drug addicted.

Kamala's husband, Doug Emhoff, slaps women.


Get off the cross. We need the wood.

DP. Thank you. So sick of sanctimonious liberals who pretend to be pious and holier-than-thou, all while peddling their own complete sh!tshow - one that the nation has rejected soundly.

DP. Are you unfamiliar with the military? They actually have rules about all of this stuff - the Secretary of Defense should know about them and follow them, right?

Old news. The affair he had a decade ago is irrelevant now. Sure, if he has another affair while SoD and starts sharing classified documents with his mistress and compromising security, David Petraeus style, that’s a different story. We’ll see if he can keep his parts to himself.

DP. I forgot about David Petraeus - appointed by Obama, btw.

Didn’t Petraeus resign?

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Anonymous wrote:Not that MAGA cares or anything, but because of their emphasis on family values, I think it’s interesting to note that he’s on his third wife, like Trump. The third wife was his affair partner while he was married to the second wife.

Yes, not that I care or anything.

Biden had three children, two of which turned out to be drug addicted.

Kamala's husband, Doug Emhoff, slaps women.


Get off the cross. We need the wood.

DP. Thank you. So sick of sanctimonious liberals who pretend to be pious and holier-than-thou, all while peddling their own complete sh!tshow - one that the nation has rejected soundly.

DP. Are you unfamiliar with the military? They actually have rules about all of this stuff - the Secretary of Defense should know about them and follow them, right?

The only time I’ve seen a service member punished for an affair under UCMJ was if the affair partner was another service member’s spouse (makes for some hard feelings at work!) or if the affair partner was also a service member and it was fraternization, or if the affair comprised their duty/mission/security.

A National Gaurd solider having an affair with a civilian is unlikely to be prosecuted, which is exactly why he wasn’t.

They don’t necessarily get punished under UCMJ, but they do get sidelined. And the stigma that comes with making bad decisions follows them professionally. It’s going to require some serious acting skills for the JCS to pretend to respect this guy.

Oh, please. Absolutely no doubt plenty of these people have their own skeletons.
DP

Yeah, there are likely more affair partners of senate members than there are of members themselves, if you totaled them up.

According to many DCUM posters, affairs and babies born to single mothers are no big deal.

For the millionth time, there are actually rules about this in the military. And consequences. I get that only 1% serve, but the fact that the military has different rules than the rest of the population is pretty elementary.

Like Gen. Petraeus getting an Army Distinguished Service Medal when he retired with a yearly pension of over $200,000?

That WAS a scandal. And it shouldn’t shock you that people at that level get away with more than a Major or Lt Col. It’s not right, but it true. Flynn was a traitor and shouldn’t have his rank or retirement either. He should be in Leavenworth.

Yes, that POS got away with it. The officer he had the affair with got kicked out of the military with no retirement. I wonder why the different treatment....hmmm....let me think....

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Anonymous wrote:Not that MAGA cares or anything, but because of their emphasis on family values, I think it’s interesting to note that he’s on his third wife, like Trump. The third wife was his affair partner while he was married to the second wife.

Yes, not that I care or anything.

Biden had three children, two of which turned out to be drug addicted.

Kamala's husband, Doug Emhoff, slaps women.


Get off the cross. We need the wood.

DP. Thank you. So sick of sanctimonious liberals who pretend to be pious and holier-than-thou, all while peddling their own complete sh!tshow - one that the nation has rejected soundly.

DP. Are you unfamiliar with the military? They actually have rules about all of this stuff - the Secretary of Defense should know about them and follow them, right?

The only time I’ve seen a service member punished for an affair under UCMJ was if the affair partner was another service member’s spouse (makes for some hard feelings at work!) or if the affair partner was also a service member and it was fraternization, or if the affair comprised their duty/mission/security.

A National Gaurd solider having an affair with a civilian is unlikely to be prosecuted, which is exactly why he wasn’t.

They don’t necessarily get punished under UCMJ, but they do get sidelined. And the stigma that comes with making bad decisions follows them professionally. It’s going to require some serious acting skills for the JCS to pretend to respect this guy.

Oh, please. Absolutely no doubt plenty of these people have their own skeletons.
DP

Yeah, there are likely more affair partners of senate members than there are of members themselves, if you totaled them up.

According to many DCUM posters, affairs and babies born to single mothers are no big deal.

For the millionth time, there are actually rules about this in the military. And consequences. I get that only 1% serve, but the fact that the military has different rules than the rest of the population is pretty elementary.

Like Gen. Petraeus getting an Army Distinguished Service Medal when he retired with a yearly pension of over $200,000?

That WAS a scandal. And it shouldn’t shock you that people at that level get away with more than a Major or Lt Col. It’s not right, but it true. Flynn was a traitor and shouldn’t have his rank or retirement either. He should be in Leavenworth.

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Anonymous wrote:Not that MAGA cares or anything, but because of their emphasis on family values, I think it’s interesting to note that he’s on his third wife, like Trump. The third wife was his affair partner while he was married to the second wife.

Yes, not that I care or anything.

Biden had three children, two of which turned out to be drug addicted.

Kamala's husband, Doug Emhoff, slaps women.


Get off the cross. We need the wood.

DP. Thank you. So sick of sanctimonious liberals who pretend to be pious and holier-than-thou, all while peddling their own complete sh!tshow - one that the nation has rejected soundly.

DP. Are you unfamiliar with the military? They actually have rules about all of this stuff - the Secretary of Defense should know about them and follow them, right?

The only time I’ve seen a service member punished for an affair under UCMJ was if the affair partner was another service member’s spouse (makes for some hard feelings at work!) or if the affair partner was also a service member and it was fraternization, or if the affair comprised their duty/mission/security.

A National Gaurd solider having an affair with a civilian is unlikely to be prosecuted, which is exactly why he wasn’t.

They don’t necessarily get punished under UCMJ, but they do get sidelined. And the stigma that comes with making bad decisions follows them professionally. It’s going to require some serious acting skills for the JCS to pretend to respect this guy.

Oh, please. Absolutely no doubt plenty of these people have their own skeletons.
DP

Yeah, there are likely more affair partners of senate members than there are of members themselves, if you totaled them up.

According to many DCUM posters, affairs and babies born to single mothers are no big deal.

For the millionth time, there are actually rules about this in the military. And consequences. I get that only 1% serve, but the fact that the military has different rules than the rest of the population is pretty elementary.

Like Gen. Petraeus getting an Army Distinguished Service Medal when he retired with a yearly pension of over $200,000?

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Anonymous wrote:Not that MAGA cares or anything, but because of their emphasis on family values, I think it’s interesting to note that he’s on his third wife, like Trump. The third wife was his affair partner while he was married to the second wife.

Yes, not that I care or anything.

Biden had three children, two of which turned out to be drug addicted.

Kamala's husband, Doug Emhoff, slaps women.


Get off the cross. We need the wood.

DP. Thank you. So sick of sanctimonious liberals who pretend to be pious and holier-than-thou, all while peddling their own complete sh!tshow - one that the nation has rejected soundly.

DP. Are you unfamiliar with the military? They actually have rules about all of this stuff - the Secretary of Defense should know about them and follow them, right?

The only time I’ve seen a service member punished for an affair under UCMJ was if the affair partner was another service member’s spouse (makes for some hard feelings at work!) or if the affair partner was also a service member and it was fraternization, or if the affair comprised their duty/mission/security.

A National Gaurd solider having an affair with a civilian is unlikely to be prosecuted, which is exactly why he wasn’t.

They don’t necessarily get punished under UCMJ, but they do get sidelined. And the stigma that comes with making bad decisions follows them professionally. It’s going to require some serious acting skills for the JCS to pretend to respect this guy.

Oh, please. Absolutely no doubt plenty of these people have their own skeletons.
DP

Yeah, there are likely more affair partners of senate members than there are of members themselves, if you totaled them up.

According to many DCUM posters, affairs and babies born to single mothers are no big deal.

For the millionth time, there are actually rules about this in the military. And consequences. I get that only 1% serve, but the fact that the military has different rules than the rest of the population is pretty elementary.

Spare me. Plenty of higher up military officers engage in affairs.

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Anonymous wrote:Not that MAGA cares or anything, but because of their emphasis on family values, I think it’s interesting to note that he’s on his third wife, like Trump. The third wife was his affair partner while he was married to the second wife.

Yes, not that I care or anything.

Biden had three children, two of which turned out to be drug addicted.

Kamala's husband, Doug Emhoff, slaps women.


Get off the cross. We need the wood.

DP. Thank you. So sick of sanctimonious liberals who pretend to be pious and holier-than-thou, all while peddling their own complete sh!tshow - one that the nation has rejected soundly.

DP. Are you unfamiliar with the military? They actually have rules about all of this stuff - the Secretary of Defense should know about them and follow them, right?

The only time I’ve seen a service member punished for an affair under UCMJ was if the affair partner was another service member’s spouse (makes for some hard feelings at work!) or if the affair partner was also a service member and it was fraternization, or if the affair comprised their duty/mission/security.

A National Gaurd solider having an affair with a civilian is unlikely to be prosecuted, which is exactly why he wasn’t.

They don’t necessarily get punished under UCMJ, but they do get sidelined. And the stigma that comes with making bad decisions follows them professionally. It’s going to require some serious acting skills for the JCS to pretend to respect this guy.

Oh, please. Absolutely no doubt plenty of these people have their own skeletons.
DP

Yeah, there are likely more affair partners of senate members than there are of members themselves, if you totaled them up.

According to many DCUM posters, affairs and babies born to single mothers are no big deal.

For the millionth time, there are actually rules about this in the military. And consequences. I get that only 1% serve, but the fact that the military has different rules than the rest of the population is pretty elementary.

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Anonymous wrote:Not that MAGA cares or anything, but because of their emphasis on family values, I think it’s interesting to note that he’s on his third wife, like Trump. The third wife was his affair partner while he was married to the second wife.

Yes, not that I care or anything.

Biden had three children, two of which turned out to be drug addicted.

Kamala's husband, Doug Emhoff, slaps women.


Get off the cross. We need the wood.

DP. Thank you. So sick of sanctimonious liberals who pretend to be pious and holier-than-thou, all while peddling their own complete sh!tshow - one that the nation has rejected soundly.

DP. Are you unfamiliar with the military? They actually have rules about all of this stuff - the Secretary of Defense should know about them and follow them, right?

The only time I’ve seen a service member punished for an affair under UCMJ was if the affair partner was another service member’s spouse (makes for some hard feelings at work!) or if the affair partner was also a service member and it was fraternization, or if the affair comprised their duty/mission/security.

A National Gaurd solider having an affair with a civilian is unlikely to be prosecuted, which is exactly why he wasn’t.

They don’t necessarily get punished under UCMJ, but they do get sidelined. And the stigma that comes with making bad decisions follows them professionally. It’s going to require some serious acting skills for the JCS to pretend to respect this guy.

Oh, please. Absolutely no doubt plenty of these people have their own skeletons.
DP

Yeah, there are likely more affair partners of senate members than there are of members themselves, if you totaled them up.

According to many DCUM posters, affairs and babies born to single mothers are no big deal.

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Anonymous wrote:Not that MAGA cares or anything, but because of their emphasis on family values, I think it’s interesting to note that he’s on his third wife, like Trump. The third wife was his affair partner while he was married to the second wife.

Yes, not that I care or anything.

Biden had three children, two of which turned out to be drug addicted.

Kamala's husband, Doug Emhoff, slaps women.


Get off the cross. We need the wood.

DP. Thank you. So sick of sanctimonious liberals who pretend to be pious and holier-than-thou, all while peddling their own complete sh!tshow - one that the nation has rejected soundly.

DP. Are you unfamiliar with the military? They actually have rules about all of this stuff - the Secretary of Defense should know about them and follow them, right?

The only time I’ve seen a service member punished for an affair under UCMJ was if the affair partner was another service member’s spouse (makes for some hard feelings at work!) or if the affair partner was also a service member and it was fraternization, or if the affair comprised their duty/mission/security.

A National Gaurd solider having an affair with a civilian is unlikely to be prosecuted, which is exactly why he wasn’t.

They don’t necessarily get punished under UCMJ, but they do get sidelined. And the stigma that comes with making bad decisions follows them professionally. It’s going to require some serious acting skills for the JCS to pretend to respect this guy.

Oh, please. Absolutely no doubt plenty of these people have their own skeletons.
DP

Yeah, there are likely more affair partners of senate members than there are of members themselves, if you totaled them up.

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Anonymous wrote:Do you Dems complain about everything Trumps does?

Do you understand that so far, no one being appointed to these positions have anything close to the requisite experience needed administer the job?

MAGAS don't care. They're uneducated so they have no idea.

Oh, if only those 70+ million Trumo voters could be as well educated as Hollywood's elite?

Well, Vance thinks hillbillies are lazy, so logic assumes that the prevailing attitude of the Trumpster elites is very closely aligned with those of the Hollywood elites.
Elites are elites, period. Pawns are pawn, period. Only in Trumplandia is the sky pink and the trees purple, by design of...the Trumpster elites.

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Anonymous wrote:Not that MAGA cares or anything, but because of their emphasis on family values, I think it’s interesting to note that he’s on his third wife, like Trump. The third wife was his affair partner while he was married to the second wife.

Yes, not that I care or anything.

Biden had three children, two of which turned out to be drug addicted.

Kamala's husband, Doug Emhoff, slaps women.


Get off the cross. We need the wood.

DP. Thank you. So sick of sanctimonious liberals who pretend to be pious and holier-than-thou, all while peddling their own complete sh!tshow - one that the nation has rejected soundly.

DP. Are you unfamiliar with the military? They actually have rules about all of this stuff - the Secretary of Defense should know about them and follow them, right?

The only time I’ve seen a service member punished for an affair under UCMJ was if the affair partner was another service member’s spouse (makes for some hard feelings at work!) or if the affair partner was also a service member and it was fraternization, or if the affair comprised their duty/mission/security.

A National Gaurd solider having an affair with a civilian is unlikely to be prosecuted, which is exactly why he wasn’t.

They don’t necessarily get punished under UCMJ, but they do get sidelined. And the stigma that comes with making bad decisions follows them professionally. It’s going to require some serious acting skills for the JCS to pretend to respect this guy.

Oh, please. Absolutely no doubt plenty of these people have their own skeletons.
DP

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Anonymous wrote:Not that MAGA cares or anything, but because of their emphasis on family values, I think it’s interesting to note that he’s on his third wife, like Trump. The third wife was his affair partner while he was married to the second wife.

Yes, not that I care or anything.

Biden had three children, two of which turned out to be drug addicted.

Kamala's husband, Doug Emhoff, slaps women.


Get off the cross. We need the wood.

DP. Thank you. So sick of sanctimonious liberals who pretend to be pious and holier-than-thou, all while peddling their own complete sh!tshow - one that the nation has rejected soundly.

DP. Are you unfamiliar with the military? They actually have rules about all of this stuff - the Secretary of Defense should know about them and follow them, right?

The only time I’ve seen a service member punished for an affair under UCMJ was if the affair partner was another service member’s spouse (makes for some hard feelings at work!) or if the affair partner was also a service member and it was fraternization, or if the affair comprised their duty/mission/security.

A National Gaurd solider having an affair with a civilian is unlikely to be prosecuted, which is exactly why he wasn’t.

They don’t necessarily get punished under UCMJ, but they do get sidelined. And the stigma that comes with making bad decisions follows them professionally. It’s going to require some serious acting skills for the JCS to pretend to respect this guy.