Anonymous
Post 07/09/2024 11:53     Subject: What if Biden does not bow out?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I hear from a lot of Dems that while it is regrettable, Joe is the only one who can win because voters won't go for Kamala, Liz Warren, Mayor Pete and so on. My question is how stupid do Democrats think their fellow voters are that the only guy who can get out their vote is this senile old husk?
And before you chime in with "but Trump", I'll inform you that every conservative I know finds Trump's demeanor embarrassing, but we recognize the reasons why he is so popular. It's BECAUSE he makes you all so mad that people feel the need to festoon their cars, houses and boats with flags bearing his name. It's not out of worship for the man, it's because it's a middle finger in your eye.
I would prefer a more dignified conservative candidate but they have never gotten anywhere because they rarely have any fighting spirit. So we are stuck with the buffoon who fights. But what does Biden have that makes him the winner, to the point where the other candidates mysteriously dropped out to pave the way for him in 2020? What's the attraction that makes him the most popular Democrat of all time, vote-wise? Tell me.


I don’t want to vote for Biden, but Trump is a criminal and will appoint more conservatives to the court.


It's been made abundantly clear that you'd vote for a corpse over Trump. My question is why the corpse over the myriad of younger, more competent Democrats. Out of the Democrats I know, absolutely no one likes Biden but they are all resigned to him. How did he win the primary if no one likes him?


Same way he won the election in 2020 while sitting in his basement doing nothing, maybe reading the occasional teleprompter. It was like giving the Make-a-wish kid the football and he gets to score a touchdown when nobody is allowed to tackle him.


An example of how the way was paved for old Joe: Trump tried to expose his blatant corruption in Ukraine, and was impeached for it.

It does feel different this time around, like Trump has turned the tables somehow, and Joe’s ring of protection is gone.


Drumpf hasn’t won anything yet, and good luck to him getting past millions of voters who staunchly oppose Project 2025


How does Trump expect to win the women vote?
Anonymous
Post 07/09/2024 11:51     Subject: What if Biden does not bow out?

Anonymous wrote:Joe is DONE. Yes the dems will still vote for him but he is not going to get the independents and youth to the polls which he DESPERATELY needs to win.

I am a lifelong Den (gen x female) and my god the DNC is so blind. Joe cannot win this time. Republicans LOVE trump the crimimal - nothing you post about rape or project 2025 or his convictions mean ANYTHING to them.

What Joe doensnt have is the momentum of 2020 to beat Trump at any cost. That is gone. Why? Because gen z sees JB as a war criminal and now a senile old man potentially with parkinsons. How can he finish out this next term? It’s delulu.


What exactly do Democrats want in Ukraine? More takeover of the land by Blackrock?
Anonymous
Post 07/09/2024 11:49     Subject: What if Biden does not bow out?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I hear from a lot of Dems that while it is regrettable, Joe is the only one who can win because voters won't go for Kamala, Liz Warren, Mayor Pete and so on. My question is how stupid do Democrats think their fellow voters are that the only guy who can get out their vote is this senile old husk?
And before you chime in with "but Trump", I'll inform you that every conservative I know finds Trump's demeanor embarrassing, but we recognize the reasons why he is so popular. It's BECAUSE he makes you all so mad that people feel the need to festoon their cars, houses and boats with flags bearing his name. It's not out of worship for the man, it's because it's a middle finger in your eye.
I would prefer a more dignified conservative candidate but they have never gotten anywhere because they rarely have any fighting spirit. So we are stuck with the buffoon who fights. But what does Biden have that makes him the winner, to the point where the other candidates mysteriously dropped out to pave the way for him in 2020? What's the attraction that makes him the most popular Democrat of all time, vote-wise? Tell me.


I don’t want to vote for Biden, but Trump is a criminal and will appoint more conservatives to the court.


It's been made abundantly clear that you'd vote for a corpse over Trump. My question is why the corpse over the myriad of younger, more competent Democrats. Out of the Democrats I know, absolutely no one likes Biden but they are all resigned to him. How did he win the primary if no one likes him?


Same way he won the election in 2020 while sitting in his basement doing nothing, maybe reading the occasional teleprompter. It was like giving the Make-a-wish kid the football and he gets to score a touchdown when nobody is allowed to tackle him.


An example of how the way was paved for old Joe: Trump tried to expose his blatant corruption in Ukraine, and was impeached for it.

It does feel different this time around, like Trump has turned the tables somehow, and Joe’s ring of protection is gone.


Drumpf hasn’t won anything yet, and good luck to him getting past millions of voters who staunchly oppose Project 2025
Anonymous
Post 07/09/2024 11:48     Subject: What if Biden does not bow out?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I hear from a lot of Dems that while it is regrettable, Joe is the only one who can win because voters won't go for Kamala, Liz Warren, Mayor Pete and so on. My question is how stupid do Democrats think their fellow voters are that the only guy who can get out their vote is this senile old husk?
And before you chime in with "but Trump", I'll inform you that every conservative I know finds Trump's demeanor embarrassing, but we recognize the reasons why he is so popular. It's BECAUSE he makes you all so mad that people feel the need to festoon their cars, houses and boats with flags bearing his name. It's not out of worship for the man, it's because it's a middle finger in your eye.
I would prefer a more dignified conservative candidate but they have never gotten anywhere because they rarely have any fighting spirit. So we are stuck with the buffoon who fights. But what does Biden have that makes him the winner, to the point where the other candidates mysteriously dropped out to pave the way for him in 2020? What's the attraction that makes him the most popular Democrat of all time, vote-wise? Tell me.


1. Decades of hands on experience at the highest levels of government.

2. He can relate to most average Americans due to his working class upbringing in Scranton. Lunch pail Joe knows the struggles, and wants to make the country better by building the middle out.

3. He so impressed the best president the country ever had (before him) that he was selected to be his vice president.

4. His immigration policies are fair, humane and not racist.

5. A win in 2024 will result in the rich finally paying their fair share of taxes.

6. His charm, humility, intelligence and magnetic personality contrast sharply with his Rethuglicans opponent.

7. Little, to no, turnover in his cabinet shows that he is a respected and fair leader. This has resulted in a mile long list of presidential accomplishments.

8. He is sincerely concerned with saving our natural environment, and his policies (renewables, electric vehicles) reflects that dedication.

9. He has brought respect and admiration back to the USA. During Drumpf’s time, the country was not liked nor respected by the politicians and citizens of other nations.

10. He will stop Project 2025 dead in its tracks.



Also after all these years people KNOW Biden. We don't have to guess at who he is or what it would be like if he were in government.

Why is he more popular than Harris, Warren, or Mayor Pete? People just like him more.

My in laws are working class white voters who used to be Republicans. I was talking to them about Harris the other day. They told me as upset as they are about the debate - they, like me, turned it off a few minutes away and have felt sick ever since - they will still vote for Biden.

I asked if they would vote for Harris if she were the nominee. They said no. People just don't like her - it's not fair, it's not right, it's also stupid because I don't know a single one of us thinks that Biden can actually stay in office for another four years (something that breaks my heart; I feel attached to him). But that is how they feel and I think they are far from alone in that.


Not sure where all this love for Biden is coming from. He won in 2020 to oust Trump. There were a lot of reluctant voters then but he was the only path out. His age was a concern in 2020 but he made a huge song and dance about being a transitional president.

Biden passed some great legislation which will benefit the U.S. economy in years to come. He has been a successful president but he’s got plenty of flaws. And now he’s gone from being old to just too old.

Harris may not be charismatic and inspiring but she’ll look excellent compared to Trump. She’s competent and the Democratic Party should probably rally around her and a safe white male if they really think democracy is at stake.


She looks excellent on paper and also people just don't like her. This isn't a contest of who people should like. It's a contest of who people do like.

I tie myself in knots every day trying to figure out if I think Biden should stay or drop out. I lean toward stay. I think that the weird effect of all these calls for him to drop out is to make people dig in that he's the one (including me!).

I don't think Harris has no chance if she turns out to eb the nominee. Abortion is her biggest strength and Rs' biggest weakness - along with the disgustingness of their rapist pedo felon candidate. But I think she's got obvious weaknesses and it does us no good to ignore them.


Agree that she has weaknesses. And totally agree that internet will be vicious with deep fakes, racism and misogyny. But it will all be fake news.

She’ll never get the MAGA vote. But four months is plenty of time for her to make a strong case to the millions of Americans who don’t want another Biden Trump matchup.

I think the people rallying around Biden are underestimating what the MAGA crowd will do if he stays. They’ve been quiet and disciplined over the last few weeks but if you thought Hilary’s emails were bad in 2016 that will be nothing to all the material Joe will provide. Never mind the election, it will be four months of the 25th amendment and Americans who are fundamentally honest with themselves will question the ability of an 81 year old to carry on.
Anonymous
Post 07/09/2024 11:40     Subject: What if Biden does not bow out?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I hear from a lot of Dems that while it is regrettable, Joe is the only one who can win because voters won't go for Kamala, Liz Warren, Mayor Pete and so on. My question is how stupid do Democrats think their fellow voters are that the only guy who can get out their vote is this senile old husk?
And before you chime in with "but Trump", I'll inform you that every conservative I know finds Trump's demeanor embarrassing, but we recognize the reasons why he is so popular. It's BECAUSE he makes you all so mad that people feel the need to festoon their cars, houses and boats with flags bearing his name. It's not out of worship for the man, it's because it's a middle finger in your eye.
I would prefer a more dignified conservative candidate but they have never gotten anywhere because they rarely have any fighting spirit. So we are stuck with the buffoon who fights. But what does Biden have that makes him the winner, to the point where the other candidates mysteriously dropped out to pave the way for him in 2020? What's the attraction that makes him the most popular Democrat of all time, vote-wise? Tell me.


I don’t want to vote for Biden, but Trump is a criminal and will appoint more conservatives to the court.


It's been made abundantly clear that you'd vote for a corpse over Trump. My question is why the corpse over the myriad of younger, more competent Democrats. Out of the Democrats I know, absolutely no one likes Biden but they are all resigned to him. How did he win the primary if no one likes him?


Same way he won the election in 2020 while sitting in his basement doing nothing, maybe reading the occasional teleprompter. It was like giving the Make-a-wish kid the football and he gets to score a touchdown when nobody is allowed to tackle him.


An example of how the way was paved for old Joe: Trump tried to expose his blatant corruption in Ukraine, and was impeached for it.

It does feel different this time around, like Trump has turned the tables somehow, and Joe’s ring of protection is gone.
Anonymous
Post 07/09/2024 11:38     Subject: What if Biden does not bow out?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I hear from a lot of Dems that while it is regrettable, Joe is the only one who can win because voters won't go for Kamala, Liz Warren, Mayor Pete and so on. My question is how stupid do Democrats think their fellow voters are that the only guy who can get out their vote is this senile old husk?
And before you chime in with "but Trump", I'll inform you that every conservative I know finds Trump's demeanor embarrassing, but we recognize the reasons why he is so popular. It's BECAUSE he makes you all so mad that people feel the need to festoon their cars, houses and boats with flags bearing his name. It's not out of worship for the man, it's because it's a middle finger in your eye.
I would prefer a more dignified conservative candidate but they have never gotten anywhere because they rarely have any fighting spirit. So we are stuck with the buffoon who fights. But what does Biden have that makes him the winner, to the point where the other candidates mysteriously dropped out to pave the way for him in 2020? What's the attraction that makes him the most popular Democrat of all time, vote-wise? Tell me.


1. Decades of hands on experience at the highest levels of government.

2. He can relate to most average Americans due to his working class upbringing in Scranton. Lunch pail Joe knows the struggles, and wants to make the country better by building the middle out.

3. He so impressed the best president the country ever had (before him) that he was selected to be his vice president.

4. His immigration policies are fair, humane and not racist.

5. A win in 2024 will result in the rich finally paying their fair share of taxes.

6. His charm, humility, intelligence and magnetic personality contrast sharply with his Rethuglicans opponent.

7. Little, to no, turnover in his cabinet shows that he is a respected and fair leader. This has resulted in a mile long list of presidential accomplishments.

8. He is sincerely concerned with saving our natural environment, and his policies (renewables, electric vehicles) reflects that dedication.

9. He has brought respect and admiration back to the USA. During Drumpf’s time, the country was not liked nor respected by the politicians and citizens of other nations.

10. He will stop Project 2025 dead in its tracks.



Also after all these years people KNOW Biden. We don't have to guess at who he is or what it would be like if he were in government.

Why is he more popular than Harris, Warren, or Mayor Pete? People just like him more.

My in laws are working class white voters who used to be Republicans. I was talking to them about Harris the other day. They told me as upset as they are about the debate - they, like me, turned it off a few minutes away and have felt sick ever since - they will still vote for Biden.

I asked if they would vote for Harris if she were the nominee. They said no. People just don't like her - it's not fair, it's not right, it's also stupid because I don't know a single one of us thinks that Biden can actually stay in office for another four years (something that breaks my heart; I feel attached to him). But that is how they feel and I think they are far from alone in that.


I hear you, and I sincerely believe that there are many millions of people like your parents.

Joe earned the right to run for re-election. He has the chance now to defeat Drumpf once and for all.

God forbid he is not able to complete his second term for any reason, the capable Kamala Harris will be there to step in and guide the country to new heights.

Confusion and in-fighting now will only lead to a loss for the party, and for the majority of Americans. With Project 2025 on the table, we can’t afford to try to switch candidates now, for many reasons.

Let’s help Joe stay in his house, and the future will resolve itself to everyone’s satisfaction.


Isn’t the White House, “The People’s House?”
Anonymous
Post 07/09/2024 11:38     Subject: What if Biden does not bow out?

Anonymous wrote:Democrats see the entire country and world exclusively through their lens, and anyone who disagrees with them is a nazi, a bigot, a racist, a homophobe, a fascist.



Nailed it! And this is precisely why the popcorn lately has been so satisfying.
Anonymous
Post 07/09/2024 11:38     Subject: What if Biden does not bow out?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I hear from a lot of Dems that while it is regrettable, Joe is the only one who can win because voters won't go for Kamala, Liz Warren, Mayor Pete and so on. My question is how stupid do Democrats think their fellow voters are that the only guy who can get out their vote is this senile old husk?
And before you chime in with "but Trump", I'll inform you that every conservative I know finds Trump's demeanor embarrassing, but we recognize the reasons why he is so popular. It's BECAUSE he makes you all so mad that people feel the need to festoon their cars, houses and boats with flags bearing his name. It's not out of worship for the man, it's because it's a middle finger in your eye.
I would prefer a more dignified conservative candidate but they have never gotten anywhere because they rarely have any fighting spirit. So we are stuck with the buffoon who fights. But what does Biden have that makes him the winner, to the point where the other candidates mysteriously dropped out to pave the way for him in 2020? What's the attraction that makes him the most popular Democrat of all time, vote-wise? Tell me.


1. Decades of hands on experience at the highest levels of government.

2. He can relate to most average Americans due to his working class upbringing in Scranton. Lunch pail Joe knows the struggles, and wants to make the country better by building the middle out.

3. He so impressed the best president the country ever had (before him) that he was selected to be his vice president.

4. His immigration policies are fair, humane and not racist.

5. A win in 2024 will result in the rich finally paying their fair share of taxes.

6. His charm, humility, intelligence and magnetic personality contrast sharply with his Rethuglicans opponent.

7. Little, to no, turnover in his cabinet shows that he is a respected and fair leader. This has resulted in a mile long list of presidential accomplishments.

8. He is sincerely concerned with saving our natural environment, and his policies (renewables, electric vehicles) reflects that dedication.

9. He has brought respect and admiration back to the USA. During Drumpf’s time, the country was not liked nor respected by the politicians and citizens of other nations.

10. He will stop Project 2025 dead in its tracks.



Also after all these years people KNOW Biden. We don't have to guess at who he is or what it would be like if he were in government.

Why is he more popular than Harris, Warren, or Mayor Pete? People just like him more.

My in laws are working class white voters who used to be Republicans. I was talking to them about Harris the other day. They told me as upset as they are about the debate - they, like me, turned it off a few minutes away and have felt sick ever since - they will still vote for Biden.

I asked if they would vote for Harris if she were the nominee. They said no. People just don't like her - it's not fair, it's not right, it's also stupid because I don't know a single one of us thinks that Biden can actually stay in office for another four years (something that breaks my heart; I feel attached to him). But that is how they feel and I think they are far from alone in that.


Not sure where all this love for Biden is coming from. He won in 2020 to oust Trump. There were a lot of reluctant voters then but he was the only path out. His age was a concern in 2020 but he made a huge song and dance about being a transitional president.

Biden passed some great legislation which will benefit the U.S. economy in years to come. He has been a successful president but he’s got plenty of flaws. And now he’s gone from being old to just too old.

Harris may not be charismatic and inspiring but she’ll look excellent compared to Trump. She’s competent and the Democratic Party should probably rally around her and a safe white male if they really think democracy is at stake.


She looks excellent on paper and also people just don't like her. This isn't a contest of who people should like. It's a contest of who people do like.

I tie myself in knots every day trying to figure out if I think Biden should stay or drop out. I lean toward stay. I think that the weird effect of all these calls for him to drop out is to make people dig in that he's the one (including me!).

I don't think Harris has no chance if she turns out to eb the nominee. Abortion is her biggest strength and Rs' biggest weakness - along with the disgustingness of their rapist pedo felon candidate. But I think she's got obvious weaknesses and it does us no good to ignore them.
Anonymous
Post 07/09/2024 11:37     Subject: What if Biden does not bow out?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I hear from a lot of Dems that while it is regrettable, Joe is the only one who can win because voters won't go for Kamala, Liz Warren, Mayor Pete and so on. My question is how stupid do Democrats think their fellow voters are that the only guy who can get out their vote is this senile old husk?
And before you chime in with "but Trump", I'll inform you that every conservative I know finds Trump's demeanor embarrassing, but we recognize the reasons why he is so popular. It's BECAUSE he makes you all so mad that people feel the need to festoon their cars, houses and boats with flags bearing his name. It's not out of worship for the man, it's because it's a middle finger in your eye.
I would prefer a more dignified conservative candidate but they have never gotten anywhere because they rarely have any fighting spirit. So we are stuck with the buffoon who fights. But what does Biden have that makes him the winner, to the point where the other candidates mysteriously dropped out to pave the way for him in 2020? What's the attraction that makes him the most popular Democrat of all time, vote-wise? Tell me.


1. Decades of hands on experience at the highest levels of government.

2. He can relate to most average Americans due to his working class upbringing in Scranton. Lunch pail Joe knows the struggles, and wants to make the country better by building the middle out.

3. He so impressed the best president the country ever had (before him) that he was selected to be his vice president.

4. His immigration policies are fair, humane and not racist.

5. A win in 2024 will result in the rich finally paying their fair share of taxes.

6. His charm, humility, intelligence and magnetic personality contrast sharply with his Rethuglicans opponent.

7. Little, to no, turnover in his cabinet shows that he is a respected and fair leader. This has resulted in a mile long list of presidential accomplishments.

8. He is sincerely concerned with saving our natural environment, and his policies (renewables, electric vehicles) reflects that dedication.

9. He has brought respect and admiration back to the USA. During Drumpf’s time, the country was not liked nor respected by the politicians and citizens of other nations.

10. He will stop Project 2025 dead in its tracks.



Also after all these years people KNOW Biden. We don't have to guess at who he is or what it would be like if he were in government.

Why is he more popular than Harris, Warren, or Mayor Pete? People just like him more.

My in laws are working class white voters who used to be Republicans. I was talking to them about Harris the other day. They told me as upset as they are about the debate - they, like me, turned it off a few minutes away and have felt sick ever since - they will still vote for Biden.

I asked if they would vote for Harris if she were the nominee. They said no. People just don't like her - it's not fair, it's not right, it's also stupid because I don't know a single one of us thinks that Biden can actually stay in office for another four years (something that breaks my heart; I feel attached to him). But that is how they feel and I think they are far from alone in that.


I hear you, and I sincerely believe that there are many millions of people like your parents.

Joe earned the right to run for re-election. He has the chance now to defeat Drumpf once and for all.

God forbid he is not able to complete his second term for any reason, the capable Kamala Harris will be there to step in and guide the country to new heights.

Confusion and in-fighting now will only lead to a loss for the party, and for the majority of Americans. With Project 2025 on the table, we can’t afford to try to switch candidates now, for many reasons.

Let’s help Joe stay in his house, and the future will resolve itself to everyone’s satisfaction.
Anonymous
Post 07/09/2024 11:36     Subject: What if Biden does not bow out?

Open borders is their biggest ‘success’.
Anonymous
Post 07/09/2024 11:33     Subject: What if Biden does not bow out?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I hear from a lot of Dems that while it is regrettable, Joe is the only one who can win because voters won't go for Kamala, Liz Warren, Mayor Pete and so on. My question is how stupid do Democrats think their fellow voters are that the only guy who can get out their vote is this senile old husk?
And before you chime in with "but Trump", I'll inform you that every conservative I know finds Trump's demeanor embarrassing, but we recognize the reasons why he is so popular. It's BECAUSE he makes you all so mad that people feel the need to festoon their cars, houses and boats with flags bearing his name. It's not out of worship for the man, it's because it's a middle finger in your eye.
I would prefer a more dignified conservative candidate but they have never gotten anywhere because they rarely have any fighting spirit. So we are stuck with the buffoon who fights. But what does Biden have that makes him the winner, to the point where the other candidates mysteriously dropped out to pave the way for him in 2020? What's the attraction that makes him the most popular Democrat of all time, vote-wise? Tell me.


1. Decades of hands on experience at the highest levels of government.

2. He can relate to most average Americans due to his working class upbringing in Scranton. Lunch pail Joe knows the struggles, and wants to make the country better by building the middle out.

3. He so impressed the best president the country ever had (before him) that he was selected to be his vice president.

4. His immigration policies are fair, humane and not racist.

5. A win in 2024 will result in the rich finally paying their fair share of taxes.

6. His charm, humility, intelligence and magnetic personality contrast sharply with his Rethuglicans opponent.

7. Little, to no, turnover in his cabinet shows that he is a respected and fair leader. This has resulted in a mile long list of presidential accomplishments.

8. He is sincerely concerned with saving our natural environment, and his policies (renewables, electric vehicles) reflects that dedication.

9. He has brought respect and admiration back to the USA. During Drumpf’s time, the country was not liked nor respected by the politicians and citizens of other nations.

10. He will stop Project 2025 dead in its tracks.



Also after all these years people KNOW Biden. We don't have to guess at who he is or what it would be like if he were in government.

Why is he more popular than Harris, Warren, or Mayor Pete? People just like him more.

My in laws are working class white voters who used to be Republicans. I was talking to them about Harris the other day. They told me as upset as they are about the debate - they, like me, turned it off a few minutes away and have felt sick ever since - they will still vote for Biden.

I asked if they would vote for Harris if she were the nominee. They said no. People just don't like her - it's not fair, it's not right, it's also stupid because I don't know a single one of us thinks that Biden can actually stay in office for another four years (something that breaks my heart; I feel attached to him). But that is how they feel and I think they are far from alone in that.


Not sure where all this love for Biden is coming from. He won in 2020 to oust Trump. There were a lot of reluctant voters then but he was the only path out. His age was a concern in 2020 but he made a huge song and dance about being a transitional president.

Biden passed some great legislation which will benefit the U.S. economy in years to come. He has been a successful president but he’s got plenty of flaws. And now he’s gone from being old to just too old.

Harris may not be charismatic and inspiring but she’ll look excellent compared to Trump. She’s competent and the Democratic Party should probably rally around her and a safe white male if they really think democracy is at stake.
Anonymous
Post 07/09/2024 11:24     Subject: What if Biden does not bow out?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I hear from a lot of Dems that while it is regrettable, Joe is the only one who can win because voters won't go for Kamala, Liz Warren, Mayor Pete and so on. My question is how stupid do Democrats think their fellow voters are that the only guy who can get out their vote is this senile old husk?
And before you chime in with "but Trump", I'll inform you that every conservative I know finds Trump's demeanor embarrassing, but we recognize the reasons why he is so popular. It's BECAUSE he makes you all so mad that people feel the need to festoon their cars, houses and boats with flags bearing his name. It's not out of worship for the man, it's because it's a middle finger in your eye.
I would prefer a more dignified conservative candidate but they have never gotten anywhere because they rarely have any fighting spirit. So we are stuck with the buffoon who fights. But what does Biden have that makes him the winner, to the point where the other candidates mysteriously dropped out to pave the way for him in 2020? What's the attraction that makes him the most popular Democrat of all time, vote-wise? Tell me.


1. Decades of hands on experience at the highest levels of government.

2. He can relate to most average Americans due to his working class upbringing in Scranton. Lunch pail Joe knows the struggles, and wants to make the country better by building the middle out.

3. He so impressed the best president the country ever had (before him) that he was selected to be his vice president.

4. His immigration policies are fair, humane and not racist.

5. A win in 2024 will result in the rich finally paying their fair share of taxes.

6. His charm, humility, intelligence and magnetic personality contrast sharply with his Rethuglicans opponent.

7. Little, to no, turnover in his cabinet shows that he is a respected and fair leader. This has resulted in a mile long list of presidential accomplishments.

8. He is sincerely concerned with saving our natural environment, and his policies (renewables, electric vehicles) reflects that dedication.

9. He has brought respect and admiration back to the USA. During Drumpf’s time, the country was not liked nor respected by the politicians and citizens of other nations.

10. He will stop Project 2025 dead in its tracks.



Also after all these years people KNOW Biden. We don't have to guess at who he is or what it would be like if he were in government.

Why is he more popular than Harris, Warren, or Mayor Pete? People just like him more.

My in laws are working class white voters who used to be Republicans. I was talking to them about Harris the other day. They told me as upset as they are about the debate - they, like me, turned it off a few minutes away and have felt sick ever since - they will still vote for Biden.

I asked if they would vote for Harris if she were the nominee. They said no. People just don't like her - it's not fair, it's not right, it's also stupid because I don't know a single one of us thinks that Biden can actually stay in office for another four years (something that breaks my heart; I feel attached to him). But that is how they feel and I think they are far from alone in that.
Anonymous
Post 07/09/2024 11:21     Subject: What if Biden does not bow out?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Getting increasing worried that Biden will not bow out. He is tarnishing Harris with his reluctance (opening her up to attacks that she is covering up for him). Opinions for how all this will shake out that could result in a win for the Democrats?


The Border Czar tarnished herself by doing nothing about the biggest border CATASTROPHE is US history.

The FENTANYL flood is KILLING 400 Americans EVERY. SINGLE. DAY.

Little CHILDREN are getting RAPED. TEN. TIMES. A. DAY.

We personally know of one six year old girl who went to the bathroom spilling massive blood into the toilet. Her injuries and pain were unimaginable. Imagine this was your own daughter.

Yet DEMOCRATS remain SILENT.
…. And DEMOCRATS even support everything Biden did on his very first day in office to open the border flood gates.

DEMOCRATS want more of the same, no matter who their candidate is.


Typical MAGA claptrap.
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Post 07/09/2024 11:20     Subject: What if Biden does not bow out?

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Anonymous wrote:Democrats need to stay together and support Biden. We cannot be so weak as to give up over one bad night. That's what the MAGA's want. Let's not give it to them!


+100

We need to stand with good ol Uncle Joe at this critical time. He has given his life to all of us, and he needs a few more years to complete his important work.

We all know he has the best cabinet and executive support team of any recent president, and as a bonus, he gets wise counsel from his spouse and siblings -people with real life experience, unlike Drumpf’s kids.

People, stop bickering! Everything will be fine. Americans don’t want to be subjected to the draconian rules of Project 2025. Joe has a lot more support than what the elite media would have you believe. Get on board, and don’t be left behind


I really want to know what you are smoking because I want the same. I can't even write the above as sarcasm and it looks like you actually meant it. Joe is done, over, I am a lifelong democrat and I am not voting for a senile guy who can't form a coherent sentence. Sorry.


You do you. Failing to support Joe is a vote for Project 2025, and support for the fat cats having a comfortable perch at the tippy top.

We all know the media elites want Drumpf back because Drumpf=high ratings. Having a competent and good man like Joe as president is too boring, and doesn’t sell newspapers or cable tv subscriptions.

Everyone I know is still behind Joe. This negative talk about polls and dementia all stink of puppet strings and pot stirring.


Everyone I know is horrified he is still running and angry at the Dems for not putting a stop to this disaster.

This exactly.


Democrats see the entire country and world exclusively through their lens, and anyone who disagrees with them is a nazi, a bigot, a racist, a homophobe, a fascist.

It doesn’t work that way. I don’t know who is in charge of the democratic party right now but they have made a mess of epic proportions, probably the biggest political mess in the history of the US presidency. Shockingly they seem unaware of the destruction that is looming. Regular Americans who aren’t politically aware on the regular saw Biden melt down on live tv and are horrified. They don’t have a democrat or republican lens. They did see with their own eyes the condition of Biden’s mind, and it has already decided the election.
Anonymous
Post 07/09/2024 11:19     Subject: What if Biden does not bow out?

It's pretty much legally impossible for the Democrats to put anyone else on the state ballots at this point. Any attempt to swap candidates will be met with a raft of lawsuits in the state courts.

Even if Joe Biden resigns and Harris becomes POTUS 47 and she takes over the campaign apparatus and funds (legally allowed since she is named on FEC documents), she will likely face lawsuits in state courts because the names "Joe Biden/Kamala Harris" are on the ballot. States may need to change laws to add a new VP candidate to the Democratic ticket. All of it will be challenged in court and then we will have the very undemocratic process of the Supreme Court saying who gets to run for POTUS/VP.

In short, this is concerning because states do not appear to have a seamless mechanism for replacing a candidate on the ballot if someone dies after they have won the state nominating race. It is effectively an unconstitutional extra requirement to someone running for POTUS or VP. It's a much bigger problem than Joe Biden.