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Anonymous wrote:I would think the member clubs who look at it will want VRSC blacklisted. The message that you are sending is that poaching coaches and TDs leads to membership. Any underpaid staff suddenly gets a ton of leverage with their club. .

Just because FCV/TSJ couldn't figure out how to run a business and keep their experienced coaching staff has nothing to do with VR "poaching coaches, etc". This is a FCV screw up at the highest levels and local clubs probably got calls and acted off the info they received. The biggest TSJFCV fail was not getting in front of their sinking ship and reassuring (Loudoun Co) families that there will indeed be a club to return to in the 24/25 season. Nobody in their right mind will take a chance on TSJ and make that drive to Springfield on the off chance there will be a GA program next year. Players are definitely going to explore ECNL after this mess.

I agree but think it's a little of both the business and the coaching.

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Anonymous wrote:I would think the member clubs who look at it will want VRSC blacklisted. The message that you are sending is that poaching coaches and TDs leads to membership. Any underpaid staff suddenly gets a ton of leverage with their club. .

Just because FCV/TSJ couldn't figure out how to run a business and keep their experienced coaching staff has nothing to do with VR "poaching coaches, etc". This is a FCV screw up at the highest levels and local clubs probably got calls and acted off the info they received. The biggest TSJFCV fail was not getting in front of their sinking ship and reassuring (Loudoun Co) families that there will indeed be a club to return to in the 24/25 season. Nobody in their right mind will take a chance on TSJ and make that drive to Springfield on the off chance there will be a GA program next year. Players are definitely going to explore ECNL after this mess.

I don’t know why people think there is field space in Springfield. LAX owns the indoor fieldhouse and the TSJ teams at least the boys practice at George Mason in Fairfax. They can’t get local fields in Fairfax county either probably because they are a corporation and not a non-profit.

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Anonymous wrote:I would think the member clubs who look at it will want VRSC blacklisted. The message that you are sending is that poaching coaches and TDs leads to membership. Any underpaid staff suddenly gets a ton of leverage with their club. .

Just because FCV/TSJ couldn't figure out how to run a business and keep their experienced coaching staff has nothing to do with VR "poaching coaches, etc". This is a FCV screw up at the highest levels and local clubs probably got calls and acted off the info they received. The biggest TSJFCV fail was not getting in front of their sinking ship and reassuring (Loudoun Co) families that there will indeed be a club to return to in the 24/25 season. Nobody in their right mind will take a chance on TSJ and make that drive to Springfield on the off chance there will be a GA program next year. Players are definitely going to explore ECNL after this mess.

They may explore ECNL, it is doubtful that they explore VRSC. GA can drop FCV and still not reward VRSC

Agree VR won't be at the top of any GA players list since the records just aren't there.

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Anonymous wrote:I would think the member clubs who look at it will want VRSC blacklisted. The message that you are sending is that poaching coaches and TDs leads to membership. Any underpaid staff suddenly gets a ton of leverage with their club. .

Just because FCV/TSJ couldn't figure out how to run a business and keep their experienced coaching staff has nothing to do with VR "poaching coaches, etc". This is a FCV screw up at the highest levels and local clubs probably got calls and acted off the info they received. The biggest TSJFCV fail was not getting in front of their sinking ship and reassuring (Loudoun Co) families that there will indeed be a club to return to in the 24/25 season. Nobody in their right mind will take a chance on TSJ and make that drive to Springfield on the off chance there will be a GA program next year. Players are definitely going to explore ECNL after this mess.

They may explore ECNL, it is doubtful that they explore VRSC. GA can drop FCV and still not reward VRSC

Anonymous wrote:I would think the member clubs who look at it will want VRSC blacklisted. The message that you are sending is that poaching coaches and TDs leads to membership. Any underpaid staff suddenly gets a ton of leverage with their club. .

Just because FCV/TSJ couldn't figure out how to run a business and keep their experienced coaching staff has nothing to do with VR "poaching coaches, etc". This is a FCV screw up at the highest levels and local clubs probably got calls and acted off the info they received. The biggest TSJFCV fail was not getting in front of their sinking ship and reassuring (Loudoun Co) families that there will indeed be a club to return to in the 24/25 season. Nobody in their right mind will take a chance on TSJ and make that drive to Springfield on the off chance there will be a GA program next year. Players are definitely going to explore ECNL after this mess.

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Anonymous wrote:I thought one of the requirements for GA was girls teams with a history of winning, tournament play, etc?

And should VRSC get accepted, people will then realize that GA doesn't truly have standards for elite level of play. If VRSC gets accepted, that's another nail in the coffin for FCV. You'd have two competing GA clubs with one located near their flagship and one where their GA program is already located with old FCV staff. Don't see FCV being dominant for a few years after this debacle, this could completely sink them. This area is about to see how many 'elite' or 'national level' programs the market can sustain when there's better fits for kids regionally if the talent level isn't there.

So they probably won’t get it. Maybe for 25-26.

How do you keep teams? No one is leaving FCV to play in NCSL or EDP with VRSC. The league memberships draw kids to clubs more than coaching staff and kids are not leaving a GA club unless it is to go to another GA team or to an ECNL team

Maybe they will join an alliance?

No club in their right mind invites revolution into an alliance.

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Anonymous wrote:I thought one of the requirements for GA was girls teams with a history of winning, tournament play, etc?

And should VRSC get accepted, people will then realize that GA doesn't truly have standards for elite level of play. If VRSC gets accepted, that's another nail in the coffin for FCV. You'd have two competing GA clubs with one located near their flagship and one where their GA program is already located with old FCV staff. Don't see FCV being dominant for a few years after this debacle, this could completely sink them. This area is about to see how many 'elite' or 'national level' programs the market can sustain when there's better fits for kids regionally if the talent level isn't there.

So they probably won’t get it. Maybe for 25-26.

How do you keep teams? No one is leaving FCV to play in NCSL or EDP with VRSC. The league memberships draw kids to clubs more than coaching staff and kids are not leaving a GA club unless it is to go to another GA team or to an ECNL team

Maybe they will join an alliance?

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Anonymous wrote:I thought one of the requirements for GA was girls teams with a history of winning, tournament play, etc?

And should VRSC get accepted, people will then realize that GA doesn't truly have standards for elite level of play. If VRSC gets accepted, that's another nail in the coffin for FCV. You'd have two competing GA clubs with one located near their flagship and one where their GA program is already located with old FCV staff. Don't see FCV being dominant for a few years after this debacle, this could completely sink them. This area is about to see how many 'elite' or 'national level' programs the market can sustain when there's better fits for kids regionally if the talent level isn't there.

So they probably won’t get it. Maybe for 25-26.

How do you keep teams? No one is leaving FCV to play in NCSL or EDP with VRSC. The league memberships draw kids to clubs more than coaching staff and kids are not leaving a GA club unless it is to go to another GA team or to an ECNL team

I would think the member clubs who look at it will want VRSC blacklisted. The message that you are sending is that poaching coaches and TDs leads to membership. Any underpaid staff suddenly gets a ton of leverage with their club. .

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Anonymous wrote:I honestly can't see any of the girls "following" BP anywhere. My bet they start driving to McLean. They will happily trade VT for Georgetown.

This makes the most sense of the scenarios presented. Nobody wants to drive to Springfield or Woodbridge if McLean is in the backyard with strong teams and coaching staff.

Why specifically McLean? Ya'll forget that there's an ECNL club literally a stone's throw away? Some of the girls can and will go there and claim some of those roster spots in the fall.

Tell me you know nothing about college commitment history without telling me. McLean has a huge legacy of outstanding soccer scholarships to top tier schools. The other ECNL team does not. It's too new and too "beginner status". They don't win much.

Don't win much???

NVA 07s > Union 07s
NVA 08s >>> Union 08s
NVA 09s >>>>> Union 09s

Union 07s have some of the wealthiest families in all of DMV. If you think some of those players are getting scholarships instead of just a roster spot because mommy and daddy are making a "donations", you need to do some research. NVA's 07s are it's first strong group of of commits and just the beginning. NVA 08s and 09s will have better commits in both years coming. Those are two very weak year for Union. Sorry if truth hurts but you shouldn't act like such a pr1ck.

You two done?

Agree that these girls likely going to NVA, VDA, and Brave in that order, if they are below Brave's level they just stay put

They will go to Union, VDA, NVA in that order.

Slippery slope for sure.

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Anonymous wrote:I honestly can't see any of the girls "following" BP anywhere. My bet they start driving to McLean. They will happily trade VT for Georgetown.

This makes the most sense of the scenarios presented. Nobody wants to drive to Springfield or Woodbridge if McLean is in the backyard with strong teams and coaching staff.

Why specifically McLean? Ya'll forget that there's an ECNL club literally a stone's throw away? Some of the girls can and will go there and claim some of those roster spots in the fall.

Tell me you know nothing about college commitment history without telling me. McLean has a huge legacy of outstanding soccer scholarships to top tier schools. The other ECNL team does not. It's too new and too "beginner status". They don't win much.

Don't win much???

NVA 07s > Union 07s
NVA 08s >>> Union 08s
NVA 09s >>>>> Union 09s

Union 07s have some of the wealthiest families in all of DMV. If you think some of those players are getting scholarships instead of just a roster spot because mommy and daddy are making a "donations", you need to do some research. NVA's 07s are it's first strong group of of commits and just the beginning. NVA 08s and 09s will have better commits in both years coming. Those are two very weak year for Union. Sorry if truth hurts but you shouldn't act like such a pr1ck.

Wow di dyou ever miss the point. No one said anything about donations. You are off your rocker completely. Why so angry? It's true Union has the best commits for soccer in the area. I dont understand all the >>>> ? Are you having trouble communicating?

Would GA add a new club knowing it would more than likely mean the end for one of their existing clubs? Not just another one of their GA clubs, but one of their best known and champions league clubs. The other few top clubs GA needs to hold onto, like Top Hat and Nationals, would see this and move to ECNL

Anonymous wrote:I thought one of the requirements for GA was girls teams with a history of winning, tournament play, etc?

If the GA accepts Revolution, it’s 100% a “back room deal” between CC and GA administration predicated on them being able to convince a large percentage of the existing FCV GA players to come over to Revolution. We know this because the GA application process for 2024/25 been closed for a while now. FCV coaches are working “behind the scenes” to try and convince FCV GA families to move to Revolution even going so far as to say that yes, you’ll still have to pay TSJ for the spring in order to get your card released but we won’t charge you for the spring if you come over to Revolution. To bolster that argument, they’re telling families that TSJ will lie to them about having field space for the future, etc. and generally painting a doom and gloom picture for TSJ FCV.

We’ll have to see what percentage of FCV GA families decide to believe that. But unless it works out such that they can convince enough players to follow them, GA accepting Revolution on the basis of the current state of their program and teams completely flys in the face of the standard the GA claims to maintain: “…an unrivaled standard of excellence in coaching, competition, and regional and national showcase events”.

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Anonymous wrote:I thought one of the requirements for GA was girls teams with a history of winning, tournament play, etc?

And should VRSC get accepted, people will then realize that GA doesn't truly have standards for elite level of play. If VRSC gets accepted, that's another nail in the coffin for FCV. You'd have two competing GA clubs with one located near their flagship and one where their GA program is already located with old FCV staff. Don't see FCV being dominant for a few years after this debacle, this could completely sink them. This area is about to see how many 'elite' or 'national level' programs the market can sustain when there's better fits for kids regionally if the talent level isn't there.

So they probably won’t get it. Maybe for 25-26.