Anonymous
02/20/2024 20:05
Subject: In most big cities violent crime is declining. In Washington the opposite is true
DC Justice Lab mentions involvement re: the forensic lab in their 2022 financials, anyone know more about that? It lost accreditation in 2021 then a bill moved forward in 2022. Maybe that is one of the 4 they take credit for? With the Biden vetoed bill a second?
https://wtop.com/dc/2022/12/dc-council-gives-initial-ok-to-overhaul-of-dcs-troubled-crime-lab/
https://dcjusticelab.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/05/Public-Disclosure-DC-JUSTICE-LAB-2022-Exempt-Organization-Client-Copy.pdf
They really do seem to have their fingers in many pies. Maybe their input was useful, can't seem to find much describing it.
They also tout their work in decriminalizing street vending, so maybe Nadeau's bill is a third of the four?
https://wtop.com/dc/2022/12/dc-council-gives-initial-ok-to-overhaul-of-dcs-troubled-crime-lab/
https://dcjusticelab.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/05/Public-Disclosure-DC-JUSTICE-LAB-2022-Exempt-Organization-Client-Copy.pdf
They really do seem to have their fingers in many pies. Maybe their input was useful, can't seem to find much describing it.
They also tout their work in decriminalizing street vending, so maybe Nadeau's bill is a third of the four?
Anonymous
02/20/2024 19:55
Subject: Re:In most big cities violent crime is declining. In Washington the opposite is true
Our Mission
DC Justice Lab is a team of law and policy experts researching, organizing, and advocating for large-scale changes to the District of Columbia’s criminal legal system. We develop smarter safety solutions that are evidence-driven, community-rooted, and racially just. We aim to fully transform the District’s approach to public safety and make it a national leader in justice reform.
Given the number of black bodies piling up in the street, I wonder what "evidence" they are considering?
Our Vision
DC Justice Lab envisions a District that:
Eradicates the root causes of crime and violence.
Ends overreliance on police, prosecutors, and prisons, in favor of solutions that maximize safety and freedom for all.
Treats every person as essential to our community.
Constantly reexamines its rules and practices to ensure they make us safer, freer, and more equal.
Takes dramatic measures to recognize, rectify, and reverse harm it inflicted on poor people and Black people.
Harm like soaring DEATH rates and a heartbreaking number of shot black children?
When do the black victims matter? Why is it only the ones who kill who seem to count?
Anonymous
02/20/2024 19:42
Subject: Re:In most big cities violent crime is declining. In Washington the opposite is true
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
um that article is about drug gangs not rap.
one thing the media does not discuss enough is the role of organized crime in DC. pandemic school closures drove kids straight to the streets. when you read about 13 year olds with repeated carjacking offenses, you are almost certainly reading about a gang/crew.
I was blocked on Twitter by Chuck a decade ago when I laughed at Mayor Gray sending new trash cans to residents the week before the election. Can someone post the WP link here?
Lol, here you go https://twitter.com/postlocal/status/1759978768901517350
Anonymous
02/20/2024 19:40
Subject: Re:In most big cities violent crime is declining. In Washington the opposite is true
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:DC Justice Lab is running the city, running it into the ground. Appalling that they do not even have to declare funders or register as lobbyists when they openly brag about writing entire public safety bills. Mendo coyly referred to a "national group" behind changes to Secure DC, one he declined to name, then popped up at this event. The ED also showed up recently to moderate a debate for JLG. They took credit for the bill Congress stopped and Biden vetoed.
On which ballot was DC Justice Lab elected to be the hidden hand behind the Council? I don't seem to recall...
This habit, that the Council and Mayor have gotten into, of funding their own astroturfing groups to lobby them has gotten out of hand. That they all seem to revolve around the issues and spending that are causing so much trouble is not coincidental.
The crazy thing is that these were the things that got Fenty and Gray in trouble on a smaller scale.
Interesting.
The recalls are one way to shake things up. Given the recent antics re: Secure DC (being further weakened as I type), Sentencing Commission murderer, the coy shout out to DCJL by the Chair, etc. they just don't seem to be shifting course in response to public focus on crime, businesses leaving, negative media coverage (even national and international stories, a concern for tourism), Congress and Biden blocking bills, soaring crime stats, etc. Any combo of those might have been expected to produce even a temporary shift, which has not happened.
Besides recalls, what other levers are there? They do act as if it is DCJL they answer too and with their murky funding, shame no one has done a deep dive into financial ties.
Anonymous
02/20/2024 19:32
Subject: Re:In most big cities violent crime is declining. In Washington the opposite is true
Anonymous wrote:
um that article is about drug gangs not rap.
one thing the media does not discuss enough is the role of organized crime in DC. pandemic school closures drove kids straight to the streets. when you read about 13 year olds with repeated carjacking offenses, you are almost certainly reading about a gang/crew.
it was a comment on a prior post, with an additional link re: gangs and drugs, pp. i agree with you. and those are often the same kids mpd repeatedly reports as missing. these are not disparate incidents of individuals but patterns of organized activity.
Anonymous
02/20/2024 18:06
Subject: Re:In most big cities violent crime is declining. In Washington the opposite is true
Anonymous wrote:DC Justice Lab is running the city, running it into the ground. Appalling that they do not even have to declare funders or register as lobbyists when they openly brag about writing entire public safety bills. Mendo coyly referred to a "national group" behind changes to Secure DC, one he declined to name, then popped up at this event. The ED also showed up recently to moderate a debate for JLG. They took credit for the bill Congress stopped and Biden vetoed.
On which ballot was DC Justice Lab elected to be the hidden hand behind the Council? I don't seem to recall...
This habit, that the Council and Mayor have gotten into, of funding their own astroturfing groups to lobby them has gotten out of hand. That they all seem to revolve around the issues and spending that are causing so much trouble is not coincidental.
The crazy thing is that these were the things that got Fenty and Gray in trouble on a smaller scale.
Anonymous
02/20/2024 17:23
Subject: Re:In most big cities violent crime is declining. In Washington the opposite is true
Anonymous wrote:
um that article is about drug gangs not rap.
one thing the media does not discuss enough is the role of organized crime in DC. pandemic school closures drove kids straight to the streets. when you read about 13 year olds with repeated carjacking offenses, you are almost certainly reading about a gang/crew.
I was blocked on Twitter by Chuck a decade ago when I laughed at Mayor Gray sending new trash cans to residents the week before the election. Can someone post the WP link here?
Anonymous
02/20/2024 17:02
Subject: Re:In most big cities violent crime is declining. In Washington the opposite is true
DC Justice Lab is running the city, running it into the ground. Appalling that they do not even have to declare funders or register as lobbyists when they openly brag about writing entire public safety bills. Mendo coyly referred to a "national group" behind changes to Secure DC, one he declined to name, then popped up at this event. The ED also showed up recently to moderate a debate for JLG. They took credit for the bill Congress stopped and Biden vetoed.
On which ballot was DC Justice Lab elected to be the hidden hand behind the Council? I don't seem to recall...
On which ballot was DC Justice Lab elected to be the hidden hand behind the Council? I don't seem to recall...
Anonymous
02/20/2024 15:32
Subject: In most big cities violent crime is declining. In Washington the opposite is true
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Excellent article in the economist,"Why is America’s capital so violent?
In most big cities violent crime is declining. In Washington the opposite is true," everywhere else crime is dropping yet in DC it's increasing rapidly. 40% this year alone. Explores the possible reasons. Any one else read it and want to discuss? I think that discussing it is better than pretending that it's not happening at this point....
https://www.economist.com/united-states/2023/10/30/why-is-americas-capital-so-violent
Big city crime data is literally fake. Victims don’t call police, police don’t show when 911 is called, police treat victims like garbage so they don’t call angain, and reports are never written en masse. Plus data juking.
The stats that aren't fake: murder and car theft. DC's are through the roof.
Pretty much. But thank modern health care for saving so many shooting victims. And they try to juke the murder rates too by calling so many "justifiable" and also there was a scam where they would close out old cold case homicides to offset current-year homicides. It's nuts the crap they pull to dupe the public. And the media goes along with it to keep real estate prices high and the machine humming.
Anonymous
02/20/2024 15:27
Subject: In most big cities violent crime is declining. In Washington the opposite is true
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Excellent article in the economist,"Why is America’s capital so violent?
In most big cities violent crime is declining. In Washington the opposite is true," everywhere else crime is dropping yet in DC it's increasing rapidly. 40% this year alone. Explores the possible reasons. Any one else read it and want to discuss? I think that discussing it is better than pretending that it's not happening at this point....
https://www.economist.com/united-states/2023/10/30/why-is-americas-capital-so-violent
Big city crime data is literally fake. Victims don’t call police, police don’t show when 911 is called, police treat victims like garbage so they don’t call angain, and reports are never written en masse. Plus data juking.
Which is say it is far worse than being reported.
Many categories are probably 5 if not 10x what's reported. While in a boring suburb, police respond to EVERY single call in less than 7 minutes.
Anonymous
02/20/2024 13:08
Subject: In most big cities violent crime is declining. In Washington the opposite is true
Anonymous wrote:Social media is to blame?
. . .
You did not know?
https://www.vox.com/technology/2023/6/1/23742757/kia-hyundai-challenge-tiktok-instagram-youtube
And fentanyl? SNAP CHAT. It is perfectly designed to hide minor drug dealing from police, parents, etc.
Sure - for a MAJOR case, police can get a warrant for a Snap. But a few dead bodies do not warrant getting a warrant.
And the police have to have a clue there even is an incriminating Snap out there before they even start the process.
So, yes: social media is partly to blame.
Anonymous
02/20/2024 13:03
Subject: In most big cities violent crime is declining. In Washington the opposite is true
Anonymous wrote:Drugs and gangs are rarely discussed bluntly in DC anymore. "Crews" whatever. It is what drives the majority of homicides.
Kids are often recruited and sent out to commit organized retail theft, steal cars to ship out of Baltimore, etc. Adults are telling them to have victims log into iPhone so bank accounts can be accessed, etc. These young kids are getting weapons somewhere and criminal adults seems like a good possibility. Lax on juvenile laws makes them more targeted.
USAO prosecuted a bunch of the Kennedy St. gang, and a bunch of gang members were arrested on Fairmont yesterday after a crime spree. Have not seen charges for them yet, hopefully USAO won't drop the ball.
And of course, a factor is, who is buying the drugs?
+100. UMC living in gentrified areas are typically really naive about the role of organized crime in street violence. then we get sneered at when we say no, actually, I do not want my kid to have to walk home from school through disputed beefing crew territory…
Anonymous
02/20/2024 13:01
Subject: Re:In most big cities violent crime is declining. In Washington the opposite is true
um that article is about drug gangs not rap.
one thing the media does not discuss enough is the role of organized crime in DC. pandemic school closures drove kids straight to the streets. when you read about 13 year olds with repeated carjacking offenses, you are almost certainly reading about a gang/crew.
Anonymous
02/20/2024 12:52
Subject: In most big cities violent crime is declining. In Washington the opposite is true
Another big bust
https://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/22-arrested-in-fentanyl-drug-ring-dc-police/3063137/
Incarcerating criminals of all ages may work as a deterrrent and disrupts criminal patterns in neighborhoods.
Sending kids to DYRS to play Call of Duty and GTA does nothing but have them practice to be better criminals. We need to old school it, like Baltimore, and do what works.
https://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/22-arrested-in-fentanyl-drug-ring-dc-police/3063137/
Incarcerating criminals of all ages may work as a deterrrent and disrupts criminal patterns in neighborhoods.
Sending kids to DYRS to play Call of Duty and GTA does nothing but have them practice to be better criminals. We need to old school it, like Baltimore, and do what works.
Anonymous
02/20/2024 12:46
Subject: In most big cities violent crime is declining. In Washington the opposite is true
Drugs and gangs are rarely discussed bluntly in DC anymore. "Crews" whatever. It is what drives the majority of homicides.
Kids are often recruited and sent out to commit organized retail theft, steal cars to ship out of Baltimore, etc. Adults are telling them to have victims log into iPhone so bank accounts can be accessed, etc. These young kids are getting weapons somewhere and criminal adults seems like a good possibility. Lax on juvenile laws makes them more targeted.
USAO prosecuted a bunch of the Kennedy St. gang, and a bunch of gang members were arrested on Fairmont yesterday after a crime spree. Have not seen charges for them yet, hopefully USAO won't drop the ball.
And of course, a factor is, who is buying the drugs?
Kids are often recruited and sent out to commit organized retail theft, steal cars to ship out of Baltimore, etc. Adults are telling them to have victims log into iPhone so bank accounts can be accessed, etc. These young kids are getting weapons somewhere and criminal adults seems like a good possibility. Lax on juvenile laws makes them more targeted.
USAO prosecuted a bunch of the Kennedy St. gang, and a bunch of gang members were arrested on Fairmont yesterday after a crime spree. Have not seen charges for them yet, hopefully USAO won't drop the ball.
And of course, a factor is, who is buying the drugs?