Anonymous
Post 04/10/2022 08:47     Subject: Re:The cruelty and misogyny of forced birth politics

Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:NP. You may see abortion in very simplistic terms but I think you're neglecting to recognize that this issue is far more complicated for millions of people. You may see a fetus as a clump of cells under the total autonomy of a woman's body. Perhaps you see abortion as no more consequential as throwing out yesterday's stale bread. I see it very differently, but I'm not arrogant enough to think that I possess the absolute truth on this issue. My understanding of science and moral compass leads me to believe that abortion is murder but I'll also concede that I might be wrong, and this is why ultimately I think a woman should possess the legal right to choose. However, I think abortion is probably the most selfish and barbaric act a woman could ever make. To take a growing life with its own DNA and discard it for convenience is madness.

Parenting is the world’s most important job. It’s a lot more than inconvenience. And everyone should be doing it willingly.


So stick a rubber on it or take the pill. Use the rhythm method. Pull out. Abstain. Geez, there's a lot of ways to prevent a pregnancy, and if you're not ready to become a parent, then don't put yourself in the position to potentially become one.

If you don't want to get drunk, don't drink. If you don't want a ticket, don't speed. If you don't want a baby, then don't have unprotected sex.


How to to tell us you are a moron without telling us you are a moron.


Thanks for the kind words. I know how pregnancies happen and how to avoid one if I want to, which apparently is a concept you find bizarre.


It’s so odd that there are multiple free forms of birth control available and women can’t figure out how to prevent pregnancy. Many forms of bc have rates of 98-99% effectiveness in preventing pregnancy.

But women, who are so “sovereign” over their own bodies, would rather kill their own child than apply a few moments of responsibility to their lives, or ask their sex partner to do so.
Anonymous
Post 04/10/2022 08:22     Subject: Re:The cruelty and misogyny of forced birth politics

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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:What we do with the explosion of special needs kids?

There's no money or time for them as it is.


So we should just abort them because they’ll be inconvenient? That’s gross thinking.

Do you also support euthanizing people when they need wheelchairs, have dementia, need dialysis etc?

If that’s the mindset in America then by all means ban abortions.


You are an authoritarian, but you can’t seem to help it. Here’s a novel idea: if an individual woman desires to abort her potentially disabled fetus, she should be able to.


If an individual parent wants to euthanize their actually (not potentially) disabled child, should they be allowed? Why not, under your moral line of thinking? Also, which disabilities would be eligible under your moral standards?
Anonymous
Post 04/10/2022 08:14     Subject: Re:The cruelty and misogyny of forced birth politics

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:What we do with the explosion of special needs kids?

There's no money or time for them as it is.


So we should just abort them because they’ll be inconvenient? That’s gross thinking.

Do you also support euthanizing people when they need wheelchairs, have dementia, need dialysis etc?

If that’s the mindset in America then by all means ban abortions.


You are an authoritarian, but you can’t seem to help it. Here’s a novel idea: if an individual woman desires to abort her potentially disabled fetus, she should be able to.
Anonymous
Post 04/10/2022 08:05     Subject: Re:The cruelty and misogyny of forced birth politics

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:What we do with the explosion of special needs kids?

There's no money or time for them as it is.


So we should just abort them because they’ll be inconvenient? That’s gross thinking.

Do you also support euthanizing people when they need wheelchairs, have dementia, need dialysis etc?

If that’s the mindset in America then by all means ban abortions.


Especially in this country, with our robust social safety net that ensures everyone has the support they need to be able to care for their children while also working and keeping a roof over their head.

/s
Anonymous
Post 04/10/2022 07:54     Subject: Re:The cruelty and misogyny of forced birth politics

Anonymous wrote:What we do with the explosion of special needs kids?

There's no money or time for them as it is.


So we should just abort them because they’ll be inconvenient? That’s gross thinking.

Do you also support euthanizing people when they need wheelchairs, have dementia, need dialysis etc?

If that’s the mindset in America then by all means ban abortions.
Anonymous
Post 04/10/2022 06:08     Subject: Re:The cruelty and misogyny of forced birth politics

Anonymous wrote:What we do with the explosion of special needs kids?

There's no money or time for them as it is.


That’s because the average age of the mother at childbirth is rising. Mother Nature doesn’t care that you can’t afford kids yet; the best time, biologically, to have a kid is between the ages of 17 and 24. But obviously that’s very difficult to do in 2022.
Anonymous
Post 04/09/2022 22:59     Subject: Re:The cruelty and misogyny of forced birth politics

What we do with the explosion of special needs kids?

There's no money or time for them as it is.
Anonymous
Post 04/09/2022 22:31     Subject: Re:The cruelty and misogyny of forced birth politics

If abortion is murder, then why allow it any case, including in the instances of rape, incest, or health of the mother? Crickets.
Anonymous
Post 04/09/2022 22:29     Subject: Re:The cruelty and misogyny of forced birth politics

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:NP. You may see abortion in very simplistic terms but I think you're neglecting to recognize that this issue is far more complicated for millions of people. You may see a fetus as a clump of cells under the total autonomy of a woman's body. Perhaps you see abortion as no more consequential as throwing out yesterday's stale bread. I see it very differently, but I'm not arrogant enough to think that I possess the absolute truth on this issue. My understanding of science and moral compass leads me to believe that abortion is murder but I'll also concede that I might be wrong, and this is why ultimately I think a woman should possess the legal right to choose. However, I think abortion is probably the most selfish and barbaric act a woman could ever make. To take a growing life with its own DNA and discard it for convenience is madness.

Parenting is the world’s most important job. It’s a lot more than inconvenience. And everyone should be doing it willingly.


So stick a rubber on it or take the pill. Use the rhythm method. Pull out. Abstain. Geez, there's a lot of ways to prevent a pregnancy, and if you're not ready to become a parent, then don't put yourself in the position to potentially become one.

If you don't want to get drunk, don't drink. If you don't want a ticket, don't speed. If you don't want a baby, then don't have unprotected sex.


How to to tell us you are a moron without telling us you are a moron.


Thanks for the kind words. I know how pregnancies happen and how to avoid one if I want to, which apparently is a concept you find bizarre.

Again, apparently the American people have trouble with this since currently 45% of the pregnancies in the U.S. are unplanned and that is an all time low. Perhaps that’s because the same people who find abortion abhorrent also decry the free and easy availability of birth control and comprehensive sex education.
Anonymous
Post 04/09/2022 22:28     Subject: Re:The cruelty and misogyny of forced birth politics

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:NP. You may see abortion in very simplistic terms but I think you're neglecting to recognize that this issue is far more complicated for millions of people. You may see a fetus as a clump of cells under the total autonomy of a woman's body. Perhaps you see abortion as no more consequential as throwing out yesterday's stale bread. I see it very differently, but I'm not arrogant enough to think that I possess the absolute truth on this issue. My understanding of science and moral compass leads me to believe that abortion is murder but I'll also concede that I might be wrong, and this is why ultimately I think a woman should possess the legal right to choose. However, I think abortion is probably the most selfish and barbaric act a woman could ever make. To take a growing life with its own DNA and discard it for convenience is madness.

Parenting is the world’s most important job. It’s a lot more than inconvenience. And everyone should be doing it willingly.


So stick a rubber on it or take the pill. Use the rhythm method. Pull out. Abstain. Geez, there's a lot of ways to prevent a pregnancy, and if you're not ready to become a parent, then don't put yourself in the position to potentially become one.

If you don't want to get drunk, don't drink. If you don't want a ticket, don't speed. If you don't want a baby, then don't have unprotected sex.


How to to tell us you are a moron without telling us you are a moron.


Thanks for the kind words. I know how pregnancies happen and how to avoid one if I want to, which apparently is a concept you find bizarre.


You have apparently made it through life without ever having read a history book.

You are stupid and entitled and a host of other evil things.
Anonymous
Post 04/09/2022 22:26     Subject: Re:The cruelty and misogyny of forced birth politics

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:NP. You may see abortion in very simplistic terms but I think you're neglecting to recognize that this issue is far more complicated for millions of people. You may see a fetus as a clump of cells under the total autonomy of a woman's body. Perhaps you see abortion as no more consequential as throwing out yesterday's stale bread. I see it very differently, but I'm not arrogant enough to think that I possess the absolute truth on this issue. My understanding of science and moral compass leads me to believe that abortion is murder but I'll also concede that I might be wrong, and this is why ultimately I think a woman should possess the legal right to choose. However, I think abortion is probably the most selfish and barbaric act a woman could ever make. To take a growing life with its own DNA and discard it for convenience is madness.

Parenting is the world’s most important job. It’s a lot more than inconvenience. And everyone should be doing it willingly.


So stick a rubber on it or take the pill. Use the rhythm method. Pull out. Abstain. Geez, there's a lot of ways to prevent a pregnancy, and if you're not ready to become a parent, then don't put yourself in the position to potentially become one.

If you don't want to get drunk, don't drink. If you don't want a ticket, don't speed. If you don't want a baby, then don't have unprotected sex.

You all still don’t understand that no birth control is 100% effective and like half of the pregnancies in this country are unplanned.


Nothing is 100% certain to prevent pregnancy other than abstinence. It's pretty easy to plan a pregnancy and equally easy to avoid one. Don't want one, don't have sex. Want to likely avoid one, then have safe sex. Except in the rarest of rare cases of pregnancy by way of rape, it's not too difficult to avoid a pregnancy.

So you’re telling every married couple in which the woman is of childbearing age that they should never have sex? That’s great policy.
Anonymous
Post 04/09/2022 22:25     Subject: Re:The cruelty and misogyny of forced birth politics

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:NP. You may see abortion in very simplistic terms but I think you're neglecting to recognize that this issue is far more complicated for millions of people. You may see a fetus as a clump of cells under the total autonomy of a woman's body. Perhaps you see abortion as no more consequential as throwing out yesterday's stale bread. I see it very differently, but I'm not arrogant enough to think that I possess the absolute truth on this issue. My understanding of science and moral compass leads me to believe that abortion is murder but I'll also concede that I might be wrong, and this is why ultimately I think a woman should possess the legal right to choose. However, I think abortion is probably the most selfish and barbaric act a woman could ever make. To take a growing life with its own DNA and discard it for convenience is madness.

Parenting is the world’s most important job. It’s a lot more than inconvenience. And everyone should be doing it willingly.


So stick a rubber on it or take the pill. Use the rhythm method. Pull out. Abstain. Geez, there's a lot of ways to prevent a pregnancy, and if you're not ready to become a parent, then don't put yourself in the position to potentially become one.

If you don't want to get drunk, don't drink. If you don't want a ticket, don't speed. If you don't want a baby, then don't have unprotected sex.


How to to tell us you are a moron without telling us you are a moron.


Thanks for the kind words. I know how pregnancies happen and how to avoid one if I want to, which apparently is a concept you find bizarre.
Anonymous
Post 04/09/2022 22:23     Subject: Re:The cruelty and misogyny of forced birth politics

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:NP. You may see abortion in very simplistic terms but I think you're neglecting to recognize that this issue is far more complicated for millions of people. You may see a fetus as a clump of cells under the total autonomy of a woman's body. Perhaps you see abortion as no more consequential as throwing out yesterday's stale bread. I see it very differently, but I'm not arrogant enough to think that I possess the absolute truth on this issue. My understanding of science and moral compass leads me to believe that abortion is murder but I'll also concede that I might be wrong, and this is why ultimately I think a woman should possess the legal right to choose. However, I think abortion is probably the most selfish and barbaric act a woman could ever make. To take a growing life with its own DNA and discard it for convenience is madness.

Parenting is the world’s most important job. It’s a lot more than inconvenience. And everyone should be doing it willingly.


So stick a rubber on it or take the pill. Use the rhythm method. Pull out. Abstain. Geez, there's a lot of ways to prevent a pregnancy, and if you're not ready to become a parent, then don't put yourself in the position to potentially become one.

If you don't want to get drunk, don't drink. If you don't want a ticket, don't speed. If you don't want a baby, then don't have unprotected sex.

You all still don’t understand that no birth control is 100% effective and like half of the pregnancies in this country are unplanned.


Nothing is 100% certain to prevent pregnancy other than abstinence. It's pretty easy to plan a pregnancy and equally easy to avoid one. Don't want one, don't have sex. Want to likely avoid one, then have safe sex. Except in the rarest of rare cases of pregnancy by way of rape, it's not too difficult to avoid a pregnancy.
Anonymous
Post 04/09/2022 22:05     Subject: Re:The cruelty and misogyny of forced birth politics

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:NP. You may see abortion in very simplistic terms but I think you're neglecting to recognize that this issue is far more complicated for millions of people. You may see a fetus as a clump of cells under the total autonomy of a woman's body. Perhaps you see abortion as no more consequential as throwing out yesterday's stale bread. I see it very differently, but I'm not arrogant enough to think that I possess the absolute truth on this issue. My understanding of science and moral compass leads me to believe that abortion is murder but I'll also concede that I might be wrong, and this is why ultimately I think a woman should possess the legal right to choose. However, I think abortion is probably the most selfish and barbaric act a woman could ever make. To take a growing life with its own DNA and discard it for convenience is madness.

Parenting is the world’s most important job. It’s a lot more than inconvenience. And everyone should be doing it willingly.


So stick a rubber on it or take the pill. Use the rhythm method. Pull out. Abstain. Geez, there's a lot of ways to prevent a pregnancy, and if you're not ready to become a parent, then don't put yourself in the position to potentially become one.

If you don't want to get drunk, don't drink. If you don't want a ticket, don't speed. If you don't want a baby, then don't have unprotected sex.

You all still don’t understand that no birth control is 100% effective and like half of the pregnancies in this country are unplanned.
Anonymous
Post 04/09/2022 22:04     Subject: Re:The cruelty and misogyny of forced birth politics

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:NP. You may see abortion in very simplistic terms but I think you're neglecting to recognize that this issue is far more complicated for millions of people. You may see a fetus as a clump of cells under the total autonomy of a woman's body. Perhaps you see abortion as no more consequential as throwing out yesterday's stale bread. I see it very differently, but I'm not arrogant enough to think that I possess the absolute truth on this issue. My understanding of science and moral compass leads me to believe that abortion is murder but I'll also concede that I might be wrong, and this is why ultimately I think a woman should possess the legal right to choose. However, I think abortion is probably the most selfish and barbaric act a woman could ever make. To take a growing life with its own DNA and discard it for convenience is madness.

Parenting is the world’s most important job. It’s a lot more than inconvenience. And everyone should be doing it willingly.


So stick a rubber on it or take the pill. Use the rhythm method. Pull out. Abstain. Geez, there's a lot of ways to prevent a pregnancy, and if you're not ready to become a parent, then don't put yourself in the position to potentially become one.

If you don't want to get drunk, don't drink. If you don't want a ticket, don't speed. If you don't want a baby, then don't have unprotected sex.


How to to tell us you are a moron without telling us you are a moron.