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I’m the PP that mentioned aggregate/ county level and, yes, the limit how many students accepted by county. That is what I was trying to explain to the OP. UMD doesn’t want the incoming class to be primarily MoCo kids. Historical, UMD accepts about 50% of Blair kids and the majority are from the magnet and CAP. I do think there is a cap at the high school level if you look at data from Bethesda magazine. However, we don’t have data for upcounty schools to determine if this is universal for the county.

So again, confusing.. you say there is a cap on the county level for geographic diversity, but then at the end you also say there is a cap by school. So it's both?

If 100 kids at a magnet apply, but only 50 get in, even though the other 50 who didn't get in have better stats/ecs than those from non magnet, then this tells me that they are looking at it by program, and by HS.

So, the county is one big group, and then there are subgroups within the county, and magnet students being one of those groups.

Blair HS overall acceptance rate might be 50% but I would think that nearly everyone from the magnet program who applies gets in. I don’t think the high magnet acceptance rate disadvantages the regular Blair student. Blair sends a school profile to colleges. The magnet students have a different school profile from the regular school population. The magnet school profile lists median SATs (typically around 1530), GPA distribution and AP score distribution for just the magnet students.
So the magnet students are compared to their peers in the program.
Having said this I have not seen any evidence that UMD compares magnet students to each other and only accepts a certain number. Other schools might do this but UMD doesn’t, perhaps because they understand that magnet students come from a wide range of home high schools and all of them would be in the top tier of their high school. Again most magnet students apply to UMD, nearly all are accepted and ultimately around 40% of the program accepts a UMD spot

Do you know if Blair does that for the CAP students as well, sends a separate profile for them?

Anonymous wrote:He did - but I think we messed up and didn't send the official SAT scores until after Nov 1, so maybe he is being treated as Regular Admission...

Similar thing happened to us when child applied in 2020. Regular admissions meant no honors college option. Kid was happy and all worked out.

Anonymous wrote:Anyone’s kid get in with high GPA, but not a ton of APs? Trying to get a handle how less rigor plays into their decision.

It’s hard to figure that out in Naviance since MCPS weights honors and APs the same.

I don’t know the answer to your question but there is a good reason to take AP courses in high school if you intend to attend UMD. They are very generous with AP credits (if you get a good score). My ds entered UMD with 48 credits thanks to this policy. It gives students a lot of flexibility to take classes they like or to pursue a minor or double major etc.

Anyone’s kid get in with high GPA, but not a ton of APs? Trying to get a handle how less rigor plays into their decision.

It’s hard to figure that out in Naviance since MCPS weights honors and APs the same.

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Anonymous wrote:
I’m the PP that mentioned aggregate/ county level and, yes, the limit how many students accepted by county. That is what I was trying to explain to the OP. UMD doesn’t want the incoming class to be primarily MoCo kids. Historical, UMD accepts about 50% of Blair kids and the majority are from the magnet and CAP. I do think there is a cap at the high school level if you look at data from Bethesda magazine. However, we don’t have data for upcounty schools to determine if this is universal for the county.

So again, confusing.. you say there is a cap on the county level for geographic diversity, but then at the end you also say there is a cap by school. So it's both?

If 100 kids at a magnet apply, but only 50 get in, even though the other 50 who didn't get in have better stats/ecs than those from non magnet, then this tells me that they are looking at it by program, and by HS.

So, the county is one big group, and then there are subgroups within the county, and magnet students being one of those groups.

I would take PP's "analysis" using Bethesda magazine data with a grain of salt. This is all pure conjecture on their part.

It's not conjecture. Are you arguing that the Bethesda data is incorrect? Also, I can see the Naviance data for Blair, historically UMD accepts 50% of applicants from Blair.

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Anonymous wrote:
I’m the PP that mentioned aggregate/ county level and, yes, the limit how many students accepted by county. That is what I was trying to explain to the OP. UMD doesn’t want the incoming class to be primarily MoCo kids. Historical, UMD accepts about 50% of Blair kids and the majority are from the magnet and CAP. I do think there is a cap at the high school level if you look at data from Bethesda magazine. However, we don’t have data for upcounty schools to determine if this is universal for the county.

So again, confusing.. you say there is a cap on the county level for geographic diversity, but then at the end you also say there is a cap by school. So it's both?

If 100 kids at a magnet apply, but only 50 get in, even though the other 50 who didn't get in have better stats/ecs than those from non magnet, then this tells me that they are looking at it by program, and by HS.

So, the county is one big group, and then there are subgroups within the county, and magnet students being one of those groups.

I would take PP's "analysis" using Bethesda magazine data with a grain of salt. This is all pure conjecture on their part.

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Anonymous wrote:
I’m the PP that mentioned aggregate/ county level and, yes, the limit how many students accepted by county. That is what I was trying to explain to the OP. UMD doesn’t want the incoming class to be primarily MoCo kids. Historical, UMD accepts about 50% of Blair kids and the majority are from the magnet and CAP. I do think there is a cap at the high school level if you look at data from Bethesda magazine. However, we don’t have data for upcounty schools to determine if this is universal for the county.

So again, confusing.. you say there is a cap on the county level for geographic diversity, but then at the end you also say there is a cap by school. So it's both?

If 100 kids at a magnet apply, but only 50 get in, even though the other 50 who didn't get in have better stats/ecs than those from non magnet, then this tells me that they are looking at it by program, and by HS.

So, the county is one big group, and then there are subgroups within the county, and magnet students being one of those groups.

Blair HS overall acceptance rate might be 50% but I would think that nearly everyone from the magnet program who applies gets in. I don’t think the high magnet acceptance rate disadvantages the regular Blair student. Blair sends a school profile to colleges. The magnet students have a different school profile from the regular school population. The magnet school profile lists median SATs (typically around 1530), GPA distribution and AP score distribution for just the magnet students.
So the magnet students are compared to their peers in the program.
Having said this I have not seen any evidence that UMD compares magnet students to each other and only accepts a certain number. Other schools might do this but UMD doesn’t, perhaps because they understand that magnet students come from a wide range of home high schools and all of them would be in the top tier of their high school. Again most magnet students apply to UMD, nearly all are accepted and ultimately around 40% of the program accepts a UMD spot

Anonymous wrote:
I’m the PP that mentioned aggregate/ county level and, yes, the limit how many students accepted by county. That is what I was trying to explain to the OP. UMD doesn’t want the incoming class to be primarily MoCo kids. Historical, UMD accepts about 50% of Blair kids and the majority are from the magnet and CAP. I do think there is a cap at the high school level if you look at data from Bethesda magazine. However, we don’t have data for upcounty schools to determine if this is universal for the county.

So again, confusing.. you say there is a cap on the county level for geographic diversity, but then at the end you also say there is a cap by school. So it's both?

If 100 kids at a magnet apply, but only 50 get in, even though the other 50 who didn't get in have better stats/ecs than those from non magnet, then this tells me that they are looking at it by program, and by HS.

So, the county is one big group, and then there are subgroups within the county, and magnet students being one of those groups.

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Anonymous wrote:Our W school has loaded acceptances into Naviance. Over 150 were accepted. Slightly lower than last year but we don’t have RD results yet. Applications were also up slightly. Anyone else?

55,000 applications to UMD this year. I would say that it is a good number.

PP here - I meant applications to UMD from our HS.

Anonymous wrote:Our W school has loaded acceptances into Naviance. Over 150 were accepted. Slightly lower than last year but we don’t have RD results yet. Applications were also up slightly. Anyone else?

55,000 applications to UMD this year. I would say that it is a good number.

PS - Have your child submit their preference list for honors community even if they aren't sure they will attend UMD. Same for reserving a housing slot.

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Anonymous wrote:My Blair student as accepted to the Honors College, but I'm confused - now DC needs to select an honors community? Are those competitive applications too? On the acceptance letter it mentions the Robert H Smith School of Business is the advising college. Does that mean that DC would be in the Interdisciplinary Business Honors college? Not a former Terp, so this is all very confusing.

Mine was accepted to School of Music and invited to Honors college. I think the honors community is different. You can apply to any community. It doesn't have to relate to your major.

I am wondering if anyone has feedback on Humanities honors and university honors.

My DD has really enjoyed Honors Humanities. The dorm, Anne Arundel, is one of the best on campus. People say that the Prince Frederick dorm is like a hotel, but Anne Arundel is like a B-and-B. Anyway, it has classic Georgian architecture but is thoroughly renovated on the inside. There is a grand piano for student use. The current director is enthusiastic and is one of the few professors who showed up consistently on campus during the 2020-21 school year when campus life was dead due to COVID. Students in HoHum are a surprising mix -there are humanities and social science students, but engineering students as well.

University Honors is very large (roughly 50% of the Honors College). Everyone in Univ. Honors should be in the brand new dorms by Fall 2022. They have tiny windows, but otherwise students seem to like them. The most competitive programs to get into seem to be ACES, ILS, and DCC. I have heard that if you don't get into your first choice, you are likely to be placed in University Honors. Choose carefully!

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Anonymous wrote:Our W school has loaded acceptances into Naviance. Over 150 were accepted. Slightly lower than last year but we don’t have RD results yet. Applications were also up slightly. Anyone else?

There was a pretty big drop as a percentage accepted from 2020 to 2021. Too soon to say for 2022.

Curious if your schools yield/number enrolled is pretty consistent?

Anonymous wrote:Our W school has loaded acceptances into Naviance. Over 150 were accepted. Slightly lower than last year but we don’t have RD results yet. Applications were also up slightly. Anyone else?

There was a pretty big drop as a percentage accepted from 2020 to 2021. Too soon to say for 2022.

Anonymous wrote:Our W school has loaded acceptances into Naviance. Over 150 were accepted. Slightly lower than last year but we don’t have RD results yet. Applications were also up slightly. Anyone else?

I’m guessing this data must be provided directly to school from either UMD or Common App as there would no way to have so many students already reporting. I’m not sure if Scattergrams is updated. I think so but I’m not positive. I’m seeing higher reds than I recall but that could be in my head.