Anonymous wrote:Punishing these two people may make us feel better, but it will NOT prevent the next shooting.
Lots of kids (in all countries) are mentally ill.
Lots of kids are growing up with irresponsible parents.
OUR culture gives such kids EASY access to firearms. They are EVERYWHERE (in our homes, our stores, our entertainment -- including the video games we give our boys). ALL adults have to take responsibility for the state of our society.
We cannot pretend that locking up a pair of individual parents fixes things.
Anonymous wrote:The morning of the Oxford High School shooting, a teacher found drawings of a gun and bleeding person by Ethan Crumbley, with the words "the thoughts won't stop," a prosecutor says. Less than two weeks earlier, they say his parents bought him a gun.
Listen to these 2 minutes describing what happened the day of the shooting, what the parents were told at a conference at the school, and how they never said anything about buying Ethan a gun.

Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Normally, I would not blame parents for their children's mental illness...but the circumstances of this case are unbelievable.
I think the parents are DEFINITELY negligent, as is the school.
That kid should have been sent directly to a mental hospital, and not allowed back into any classroom until a professional said it was safe for him to return.
He was suicidal and homicidal. If the administration was aware of that level of PHYSCIAL illness, he would not have been returned to the classroom.
Tragic.
How is the school negligent. Within the last 10 days pre-shooting and including the DAY of the shooting - I've seen that they've reached out to the parents at least 4 times. On top of the parents knowing he had issues and still buying him a weapon at 15. WTF?
November 21st - Ethan was searching bullets on his phone - his mother was called immediately and a voicemail was left.
November 21st - Ethan was searching bullets on his phone - his mother was sent an email regarding the same subject
November 26th - Father takes him Black Friday shopping for a gun
November 27th - Mother posts on FB 'Mom and son tests out his present' - she went shooting with him
November 29th - Ethan called in by administration
November 30th - Ethan called in by administration with parents
November 30th - Ethan shoots and kills 4 fellow students
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Normally, I would not blame parents for their children's mental illness...but the circumstances of this case are unbelievable.
I think the parents are DEFINITELY negligent, as is the school.
That kid should have been sent directly to a mental hospital, and not allowed back into any classroom until a professional said it was safe for him to return.
He was suicidal and homicidal. If the administration was aware of that level of PHYSCIAL illness, he would not have been returned to the classroom.
Tragic.
How is the school negligent. Within the last 10 days pre-shooting and including the DAY of the shooting - I've seen that they've reached out to the parents at least 4 times. On top of the parents knowing he had issues and still buying him a weapon at 15. WTF?
November 21st - Ethan was searching bullets on his phone - his mother was called immediately and a voicemail was left.
November 21st - Ethan was searching bullets on his phone - his mother was sent an email regarding the same subject
November 26th - Father takes him Black Friday shopping for a gun
November 27th - Mother posts on FB 'Mom and son tests out his present' - she went shooting with him
November 29th - Ethan called in by administration
November 30th - Ethan called in by administration with parents
November 30th - Ethan shoots and kills 4 fellow students
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
There IS no more important issue in our country.
If you are voting for Republicans because your taxes or regulations will be lower, and you can accumulate more wealth, you have some VERY mixed up values.
All of the money in the world won't matter if your kid gets GUNNED DOWN at school, like those poor babies in Newton.
WE NEED sane gun regulation. AND fewer guns in circulation.
But what does this mean? If the dad purchased this gun legally what sort of “gun regulation” could have prevented this?
Exorbitantly expensive insurance required for gun owners would be a start.
I can get behind that 100%. Anyone else have any ideas?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
There IS no more important issue in our country.
If you are voting for Republicans because your taxes or regulations will be lower, and you can accumulate more wealth, you have some VERY mixed up values.
All of the money in the world won't matter if your kid gets GUNNED DOWN at school, like those poor babies in Newton.
WE NEED sane gun regulation. AND fewer guns in circulation.
But what does this mean? If the dad purchased this gun legally what sort of “gun regulation” could have prevented this?
Exorbitantly expensive insurance required for gun owners would be a start.
Anonymous wrote:PLEASE do more than post on DCUM:
https://blog.greatnonprofits.org/9-organizations-making-progress-towards-gun-control/
If we DO nothing, the carnage will only continue.
Think of the holidays those poor parents will now have.
TAKE ACTION or condemn our children and grandchildren to this future.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
There IS no more important issue in our country.
If you are voting for Republicans because your taxes or regulations will be lower, and you can accumulate more wealth, you have some VERY mixed up values.
All of the money in the world won't matter if your kid gets GUNNED DOWN at school, like those poor babies in Newton.
WE NEED sane gun regulation. AND fewer guns in circulation.
But what does this mean? If the dad purchased this gun legally what sort of “gun regulation” could have prevented this?
Anonymous wrote:Normally, I would not blame parents for their children's mental illness...but the circumstances of this case are unbelievable.
I think the parents are DEFINITELY negligent, as is the school.
That kid should have been sent directly to a mental hospital, and not allowed back into any classroom until a professional said it was safe for him to return.
He was suicidal and homicidal. If the administration was aware of that level of PHYSCIAL illness, he would not have been returned to the classroom.
Tragic.

Anonymous wrote:Does anyone find it odd that 99% of school shootings are committed by white males? If this was an area that had gangs or other criminal activity, you could associate the terrible actions to environmental factors. But that doesn’t seem to be the case. So what’s the reason this demographic of children is so prone to murdering other children?