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Post 09/20/2023 13:33     Subject: Ukrainian victory over Russia is inevitable

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Anonymous wrote:Poland will likely not extend the support for the roughly 1 million Ukrainian refugees it is hosting to the same extent for the following year, Polish government spokesperson Piotr Müller told Polsat News on Sept. 18.

Poland has hosted the largest number of Ukrainian refugees of all countries. The U.N. records around 6 million refugees residing abroad as a result of Russian aggression.

In a show of solidarity with besieged Ukraine, Warsaw decided to assist Ukrainian refugees by waiving residency requirements and providing free access to education, healthcare, and family benefits.

Now, the Polish government signals this aid may not be prolonged for 2024, at the very least not at the same scale.

"These regulations will simply expire next year," Müller said on television.

"I think the regulations will not be extended to a large extent," he noted, adding that the international community should become more involved in the support.

https://kyivindependent.com/poland-says-it-may-cut-aid-for-ukrainian-refugees-next-year/


The best and fastest way for Poland to be able to send Ukraine's refugees back would be to continue to do as much as it can to help Ukraine clear and secure its lands from violent illegal Russian occupation. Dropping support for Ukraine and letting Russia win would only lead to more Ukrainian refugees. Any thinking person should be able to understand this.


LOL no Ukrainians would much rather stay in Europe than return even to peaceful Ukraine. Moron.

Unnecessary but I agree that many will choose to stay for their children. I assume a program is established for refugees to work, pay taxes and positively contribute to society as temporary citizens.


The main reason they would "stay for their children" is for peace and security. The best way to achieve peace and security is through defeating Russia. Any thinking person should be able to understand this.

The person shrieking "moron" is clearly not a thinking person.


You are clearly unfamiliar with root causes of immigration but that's all right. It's about better quality sausage as often as it is about not getting bombed.


You are clearly unfamiliar with the fact that millions of Ukrainians weren't fleeing the country prior to February 23, 2022. It's not the kielbasa, it is in fact the bombs. You are clearly still not a thinking person.


Yes but millions of Ukrainians couldn't. The only way to have a meaningful comparison is to invent a time machine, go back to 2021 and give all Ukrainians indefinite leave to remain in the EU with work authorization and some benefits. That wasn't available in 2021.

Before Brexit, you couldn't find British busboys or nannies or cleaners in the UK (well you could, but not common). They were all Lithuanian or Polish or similar. No bombs falling, mind you. This tells you how migration flows work.
Anonymous
Post 09/20/2023 13:30     Subject: Ukrainian victory over Russia is inevitable

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Anonymous wrote:Poland will likely not extend the support for the roughly 1 million Ukrainian refugees it is hosting to the same extent for the following year, Polish government spokesperson Piotr Müller told Polsat News on Sept. 18.

Poland has hosted the largest number of Ukrainian refugees of all countries. The U.N. records around 6 million refugees residing abroad as a result of Russian aggression.

In a show of solidarity with besieged Ukraine, Warsaw decided to assist Ukrainian refugees by waiving residency requirements and providing free access to education, healthcare, and family benefits.

Now, the Polish government signals this aid may not be prolonged for 2024, at the very least not at the same scale.

"These regulations will simply expire next year," Müller said on television.

"I think the regulations will not be extended to a large extent," he noted, adding that the international community should become more involved in the support.

https://kyivindependent.com/poland-says-it-may-cut-aid-for-ukrainian-refugees-next-year/


America needs to step up and accept ALL of these Ukrainian war refugees.


Only if they will resettle in Mississippi and Alabama

😂

Ukrainian refugees in London and Germany complained when they were resettled near black or brown people

I heard years ago that ukranian people in general have an ungrateful streak but never realized it was so blatant
Anonymous
Post 09/20/2023 13:23     Subject: Ukrainian victory over Russia is inevitable

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Anonymous wrote:Wait, is this an actual thing? I thought it was a parody skit...


This is what the Ukraine chose to represent it in English language media. Think about what that says about both Ukraine and English speaking Ukraine supporters that this seemed like a good idea.


And now:


Not everyone is happy about it.

Is she gnashing her teeth?
Anonymous
Post 09/20/2023 13:22     Subject: Ukrainian victory over Russia is inevitable

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Anonymous wrote:Poland will likely not extend the support for the roughly 1 million Ukrainian refugees it is hosting to the same extent for the following year, Polish government spokesperson Piotr Müller told Polsat News on Sept. 18.

Poland has hosted the largest number of Ukrainian refugees of all countries. The U.N. records around 6 million refugees residing abroad as a result of Russian aggression.

In a show of solidarity with besieged Ukraine, Warsaw decided to assist Ukrainian refugees by waiving residency requirements and providing free access to education, healthcare, and family benefits.

Now, the Polish government signals this aid may not be prolonged for 2024, at the very least not at the same scale.

"These regulations will simply expire next year," Müller said on television.

"I think the regulations will not be extended to a large extent," he noted, adding that the international community should become more involved in the support.

https://kyivindependent.com/poland-says-it-may-cut-aid-for-ukrainian-refugees-next-year/


poles are probably historically the most anti Russian people in the planet and even they are getting sick of Ukraine

😂 😂 😂


I think they want to see some humility in exchange for the scale of support they've been providing, and historically this has never been Ukraine's strength.

The Polish learned a long time ago not to trust other countries. Second to hating Russians is the Polish hatred for Germans. Poland ethnically cleansed Germans from its lands after World War Two. As for the Ukrainians, Poles view them as little brothers. I have a feeling that the female Ukrainian refugees will be permitted to stay as long as they marry Polish men and bear Polish children. The male Ukrainian men will most likely be deported back to Ukraine to fight for their country.
Anonymous
Post 09/20/2023 13:17     Subject: Ukrainian victory over Russia is inevitable

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Anonymous wrote:Wait, is this an actual thing? I thought it was a parody skit...


This is what the Ukraine chose to represent it in English language media. Think about what that says about both Ukraine and English speaking Ukraine supporters that this seemed like a good idea.


And now:


Not everyone is happy about it.
Anonymous
Post 09/20/2023 13:16     Subject: Ukrainian victory over Russia is inevitable

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Actually Ukraine is plastering Russian troop concentrations just about as fast as Russia can send troops to the frontlines. That's probably why I believe the last of the Russian elite unit reserves were committed near Robotyne?

With the caveat that Human Life is precious; no, Russia can't afford to lose healthy males. "8.5 inhabitants per square kilometre (22 inhabitants/sq mi). As of 2020" Also it's birthrate is dropping like a rock (between young people fleeing the country or getting killed in Ukraine). "The population density in Ukraine is 63 per Km2 (164 people per mi2)." which is about 8x as much. Also, Russia is invading Ukraine, so has to pull out resources (vs just reposition them).


I don't know where you get your info, but August was Russia's lowest casualty month since the start of the SMO, and September is looking to be in the same range. Since the Ukrainian counter-offensive started, casualties are running roughly 10-1 in Russia's favor.

Maybe meatwave attacks along a broad entrenched/mined front without air support is considered suicide for a reason. Russia is glad to trade a K for a K. That's 1 square kilometer for 1,000 Ukrainians.

If you valued the lives of your troops, you would have called this offensive off long ago and just dug in. But between this and Bakhmut, I think Zelensky wants to kill as many of his troops as possible.


We know where you get your information from, Kremlin propaganda-bot.

Russia's lowest casualty month since the start of the SMO?
10-1 in Russia's favor?

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

How about trying more credible fictions


Here's the best public count of Russian casualties: https://en.zona.media/article/2022/05/11/casualties_eng
They have a weekly graph about a third of the way down the page, which shows a steep decline over the past few months. There were roughly 1,500 Russian KIA from the start of the offensive through the last update.

No one will do similar quality counts on Ukraine, because they don't want to get blown up. That leaves us using lesser sources. Shoigu for instance claims 66,000 Ukrainians, which is probably on the high side. A solider with the 47th posted they were suffering 13 KIA a day, which puts them at over 1,100 for the duration of the offensive. That's just one brigade. If those numbers scale to other Ukrainian brigades, then Shoigu's number is actually on the low side.

So we get 66,000/1,500 or roughly 44-1, well above the 10-1. If you have a better source for UA loses, feel free to plug it in instead. The English language media generally views UA loses as taboo, so its hard to find good sources.


Shoigu also claims that every Ukrainian missile and drone is intercepted. Then pictures come out showing that he really meant intercepted by ship hulls.


So what's your number for UA KIA?
Anonymous
Post 09/20/2023 13:14     Subject: Ukrainian victory over Russia is inevitable

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Actually Ukraine is plastering Russian troop concentrations just about as fast as Russia can send troops to the frontlines. That's probably why I believe the last of the Russian elite unit reserves were committed near Robotyne?

With the caveat that Human Life is precious; no, Russia can't afford to lose healthy males. "8.5 inhabitants per square kilometre (22 inhabitants/sq mi). As of 2020" Also it's birthrate is dropping like a rock (between young people fleeing the country or getting killed in Ukraine). "The population density in Ukraine is 63 per Km2 (164 people per mi2)." which is about 8x as much. Also, Russia is invading Ukraine, so has to pull out resources (vs just reposition them).


I don't know where you get your info, but August was Russia's lowest casualty month since the start of the SMO, and September is looking to be in the same range. Since the Ukrainian counter-offensive started, casualties are running roughly 10-1 in Russia's favor.

Maybe meatwave attacks along a broad entrenched/mined front without air support is considered suicide for a reason. Russia is glad to trade a K for a K. That's 1 square kilometer for 1,000 Ukrainians.

If you valued the lives of your troops, you would have called this offensive off long ago and just dug in. But between this and Bakhmut, I think Zelensky wants to kill as many of his troops as possible.


We know where you get your information from, Kremlin propaganda-bot.

Russia's lowest casualty month since the start of the SMO?
10-1 in Russia's favor?

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

How about trying more credible fictions


Here's the best public count of Russian casualties: https://en.zona.media/article/2022/05/11/casualties_eng
They have a weekly graph about a third of the way down the page, which shows a steep decline over the past few months. There were roughly 1,500 Russian KIA from the start of the offensive through the last update.

No one will do similar quality counts on Ukraine, because they don't want to get blown up. That leaves us using lesser sources. Shoigu for instance claims 66,000 Ukrainians, which is probably on the high side. A solider with the 47th posted they were suffering 13 KIA a day, which puts them at over 1,100 for the duration of the offensive. That's just one brigade. If those numbers scale to other Ukrainian brigades, then Shoigu's number is actually on the low side.

So we get 66,000/1,500 or roughly 44-1, well above the 10-1. If you have a better source for UA loses, feel free to plug it in instead. The English language media generally views UA loses as taboo, so its hard to find good sources.


Shoigu also claims that every Ukrainian missile and drone is intercepted. Then pictures come out showing that he really meant intercepted by ship hulls.
Anonymous
Post 09/20/2023 13:09     Subject: Ukrainian victory over Russia is inevitable

Anonymous wrote:Poland will likely not extend the support for the roughly 1 million Ukrainian refugees it is hosting to the same extent for the following year, Polish government spokesperson Piotr Müller told Polsat News on Sept. 18.

Poland has hosted the largest number of Ukrainian refugees of all countries. The U.N. records around 6 million refugees residing abroad as a result of Russian aggression.

In a show of solidarity with besieged Ukraine, Warsaw decided to assist Ukrainian refugees by waiving residency requirements and providing free access to education, healthcare, and family benefits.

Now, the Polish government signals this aid may not be prolonged for 2024, at the very least not at the same scale.

"These regulations will simply expire next year," Müller said on television.

"I think the regulations will not be extended to a large extent," he noted, adding that the international community should become more involved in the support.

https://kyivindependent.com/poland-says-it-may-cut-aid-for-ukrainian-refugees-next-year/


America needs to step up and accept ALL of these Ukrainian war refugees.
Anonymous
Post 09/20/2023 13:04     Subject: Ukrainian victory over Russia is inevitable

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Actually Ukraine is plastering Russian troop concentrations just about as fast as Russia can send troops to the frontlines. That's probably why I believe the last of the Russian elite unit reserves were committed near Robotyne?

With the caveat that Human Life is precious; no, Russia can't afford to lose healthy males. "8.5 inhabitants per square kilometre (22 inhabitants/sq mi). As of 2020" Also it's birthrate is dropping like a rock (between young people fleeing the country or getting killed in Ukraine). "The population density in Ukraine is 63 per Km2 (164 people per mi2)." which is about 8x as much. Also, Russia is invading Ukraine, so has to pull out resources (vs just reposition them).


I don't know where you get your info, but August was Russia's lowest casualty month since the start of the SMO, and September is looking to be in the same range. Since the Ukrainian counter-offensive started, casualties are running roughly 10-1 in Russia's favor.

Maybe meatwave attacks along a broad entrenched/mined front without air support is considered suicide for a reason. Russia is glad to trade a K for a K. That's 1 square kilometer for 1,000 Ukrainians.

If you valued the lives of your troops, you would have called this offensive off long ago and just dug in. But between this and Bakhmut, I think Zelensky wants to kill as many of his troops as possible.


We know where you get your information from, Kremlin propaganda-bot.

Russia's lowest casualty month since the start of the SMO?
10-1 in Russia's favor?

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

How about trying more credible fictions


Here's the best public count of Russian casualties: https://en.zona.media/article/2022/05/11/casualties_eng
They have a weekly graph about a third of the way down the page, which shows a steep decline over the past few months. There were roughly 1,500 Russian KIA from the start of the offensive through the last update.

No one will do similar quality counts on Ukraine, because they don't want to get blown up. That leaves us using lesser sources. Shoigu for instance claims 66,000 Ukrainians, which is probably on the high side. A solider with the 47th posted they were suffering 13 KIA a day, which puts them at over 1,100 for the duration of the offensive. That's just one brigade. If those numbers scale to other Ukrainian brigades, then Shoigu's number is actually on the low side.

So we get 66,000/1,500 or roughly 44-1, well above the 10-1. If you have a better source for UA loses, feel free to plug it in instead. The English language media generally views UA loses as taboo, so its hard to find good sources.
Anonymous
Post 09/20/2023 12:56     Subject: Ukrainian victory over Russia is inevitable

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Anonymous wrote:Poland will likely not extend the support for the roughly 1 million Ukrainian refugees it is hosting to the same extent for the following year, Polish government spokesperson Piotr Müller told Polsat News on Sept. 18.

Poland has hosted the largest number of Ukrainian refugees of all countries. The U.N. records around 6 million refugees residing abroad as a result of Russian aggression.

In a show of solidarity with besieged Ukraine, Warsaw decided to assist Ukrainian refugees by waiving residency requirements and providing free access to education, healthcare, and family benefits.

Now, the Polish government signals this aid may not be prolonged for 2024, at the very least not at the same scale.

"These regulations will simply expire next year," Müller said on television.

"I think the regulations will not be extended to a large extent," he noted, adding that the international community should become more involved in the support.

https://kyivindependent.com/poland-says-it-may-cut-aid-for-ukrainian-refugees-next-year/


The best and fastest way for Poland to be able to send Ukraine's refugees back would be to continue to do as much as it can to help Ukraine clear and secure its lands from violent illegal Russian occupation. Dropping support for Ukraine and letting Russia win would only lead to more Ukrainian refugees. Any thinking person should be able to understand this.


LOL no Ukrainians would much rather stay in Europe than return even to peaceful Ukraine. Moron.

Unnecessary but I agree that many will choose to stay for their children. I assume a program is established for refugees to work, pay taxes and positively contribute to society as temporary citizens.


The main reason they would "stay for their children" is for peace and security. The best way to achieve peace and security is through defeating Russia. Any thinking person should be able to understand this.

The person shrieking "moron" is clearly not a thinking person.


You are clearly unfamiliar with root causes of immigration but that's all right. It's about better quality sausage as often as it is about not getting bombed.


Do you actually craven enough to knowingly insult our intelligence with this comment, or are you actually so clueless as to think you actually have a valid point to make here?
Anonymous
Post 09/20/2023 12:44     Subject: Ukrainian victory over Russia is inevitable

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Anonymous wrote:Poland will likely not extend the support for the roughly 1 million Ukrainian refugees it is hosting to the same extent for the following year, Polish government spokesperson Piotr Müller told Polsat News on Sept. 18.

Poland has hosted the largest number of Ukrainian refugees of all countries. The U.N. records around 6 million refugees residing abroad as a result of Russian aggression.

In a show of solidarity with besieged Ukraine, Warsaw decided to assist Ukrainian refugees by waiving residency requirements and providing free access to education, healthcare, and family benefits.

Now, the Polish government signals this aid may not be prolonged for 2024, at the very least not at the same scale.

"These regulations will simply expire next year," Müller said on television.

"I think the regulations will not be extended to a large extent," he noted, adding that the international community should become more involved in the support.

https://kyivindependent.com/poland-says-it-may-cut-aid-for-ukrainian-refugees-next-year/


The best and fastest way for Poland to be able to send Ukraine's refugees back would be to continue to do as much as it can to help Ukraine clear and secure its lands from violent illegal Russian occupation. Dropping support for Ukraine and letting Russia win would only lead to more Ukrainian refugees. Any thinking person should be able to understand this.


LOL no Ukrainians would much rather stay in Europe than return even to peaceful Ukraine. Moron.

Unnecessary but I agree that many will choose to stay for their children. I assume a program is established for refugees to work, pay taxes and positively contribute to society as temporary citizens.


The main reason they would "stay for their children" is for peace and security. The best way to achieve peace and security is through defeating Russia. Any thinking person should be able to understand this.

The person shrieking "moron" is clearly not a thinking person.


You are clearly unfamiliar with root causes of immigration but that's all right. It's about better quality sausage as often as it is about not getting bombed.


You are clearly unfamiliar with the fact that millions of Ukrainians weren't fleeing the country prior to February 23, 2022. It's not the kielbasa, it is in fact the bombs. You are clearly still not a thinking person.
Anonymous
Post 09/20/2023 12:20     Subject: Ukrainian victory over Russia is inevitable

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Anonymous wrote:Poland will likely not extend the support for the roughly 1 million Ukrainian refugees it is hosting to the same extent for the following year, Polish government spokesperson Piotr Müller told Polsat News on Sept. 18.

Poland has hosted the largest number of Ukrainian refugees of all countries. The U.N. records around 6 million refugees residing abroad as a result of Russian aggression.

In a show of solidarity with besieged Ukraine, Warsaw decided to assist Ukrainian refugees by waiving residency requirements and providing free access to education, healthcare, and family benefits.

Now, the Polish government signals this aid may not be prolonged for 2024, at the very least not at the same scale.

"These regulations will simply expire next year," Müller said on television.

"I think the regulations will not be extended to a large extent," he noted, adding that the international community should become more involved in the support.

https://kyivindependent.com/poland-says-it-may-cut-aid-for-ukrainian-refugees-next-year/


The best and fastest way for Poland to be able to send Ukraine's refugees back would be to continue to do as much as it can to help Ukraine clear and secure its lands from violent illegal Russian occupation. Dropping support for Ukraine and letting Russia win would only lead to more Ukrainian refugees. Any thinking person should be able to understand this.


LOL no Ukrainians would much rather stay in Europe than return even to peaceful Ukraine. Moron.

Unnecessary but I agree that many will choose to stay for their children. I assume a program is established for refugees to work, pay taxes and positively contribute to society as temporary citizens.


The main reason they would "stay for their children" is for peace and security. The best way to achieve peace and security is through defeating Russia. Any thinking person should be able to understand this.

The person shrieking "moron" is clearly not a thinking person.


You are clearly unfamiliar with root causes of immigration but that's all right. It's about better quality sausage as often as it is about not getting bombed.


DP

Are you familiar with root causes of migration? It is often about escaping fossilized state and police corruption, crime, violence and drug gangs controlling local businesses both legal and illegal (Central America). All parents want some hope for their own children.

The Syrian refugee crisis which destabilized EU and required a lot of their foreign aid funding to be spent at home on refugee camps - was caused by Russian ruthlessly
bombing Syria civilians and civilian infrastructure in order to destabilize EU.

Ukraine may not be perfect but their courage in standing up to the ruthless grandiose ambitions of Putin and his cronies is remarkable. Russia remains the second greatest world nuclear power and their leadership has no moral Compass at all.

That said, I can understand that Poland and other neighboring countries who have been providing massive assistance to Ukraine need to take care of their own citizens.
I think they realize it is very much on their interests to support efforts to defeat Russia.
Anonymous
Post 09/20/2023 12:06     Subject: Ukrainian victory over Russia is inevitable

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Poland will likely not extend the support for the roughly 1 million Ukrainian refugees it is hosting to the same extent for the following year, Polish government spokesperson Piotr Müller told Polsat News on Sept. 18.

Poland has hosted the largest number of Ukrainian refugees of all countries. The U.N. records around 6 million refugees residing abroad as a result of Russian aggression.

In a show of solidarity with besieged Ukraine, Warsaw decided to assist Ukrainian refugees by waiving residency requirements and providing free access to education, healthcare, and family benefits.

Now, the Polish government signals this aid may not be prolonged for 2024, at the very least not at the same scale.

"These regulations will simply expire next year," Müller said on television.

"I think the regulations will not be extended to a large extent," he noted, adding that the international community should become more involved in the support.

https://kyivindependent.com/poland-says-it-may-cut-aid-for-ukrainian-refugees-next-year/


The best and fastest way for Poland to be able to send Ukraine's refugees back would be to continue to do as much as it can to help Ukraine clear and secure its lands from violent illegal Russian occupation. Dropping support for Ukraine and letting Russia win would only lead to more Ukrainian refugees. Any thinking person should be able to understand this.


LOL no Ukrainians would much rather stay in Europe than return even to peaceful Ukraine. Moron.

Unnecessary but I agree that many will choose to stay for their children. I assume a program is established for refugees to work, pay taxes and positively contribute to society as temporary citizens.


The main reason they would "stay for their children" is for peace and security. The best way to achieve peace and security is through defeating Russia. Any thinking person should be able to understand this.

The person shrieking "moron" is clearly not a thinking person.


You are clearly unfamiliar with root causes of immigration but that's all right. It's about better quality sausage as often as it is about not getting bombed.
Anonymous
Post 09/20/2023 12:05     Subject: Ukrainian victory over Russia is inevitable

Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:Poland will likely not extend the support for the roughly 1 million Ukrainian refugees it is hosting to the same extent for the following year, Polish government spokesperson Piotr Müller told Polsat News on Sept. 18.

Poland has hosted the largest number of Ukrainian refugees of all countries. The U.N. records around 6 million refugees residing abroad as a result of Russian aggression.

In a show of solidarity with besieged Ukraine, Warsaw decided to assist Ukrainian refugees by waiving residency requirements and providing free access to education, healthcare, and family benefits.

Now, the Polish government signals this aid may not be prolonged for 2024, at the very least not at the same scale.

"These regulations will simply expire next year," Müller said on television.

"I think the regulations will not be extended to a large extent," he noted, adding that the international community should become more involved in the support.

https://kyivindependent.com/poland-says-it-may-cut-aid-for-ukrainian-refugees-next-year/


The best and fastest way for Poland to be able to send Ukraine's refugees back would be to continue to do as much as it can to help Ukraine clear and secure its lands from violent illegal Russian occupation. Dropping support for Ukraine and letting Russia win would only lead to more Ukrainian refugees. Any thinking person should be able to understand this.


LOL no Ukrainians would much rather stay in Europe than return even to peaceful Ukraine. Moron.

Unnecessary but I agree that many will choose to stay for their children. I assume a program is established for refugees to work, pay taxes and positively contribute to society as temporary citizens.


Yes bc a mass migration and welfare program like that is always positively embraced by the native populace! /s


Why? Do you think Ukrainian refugees were welfare status in their homeland? Where are all the doctors, teachers, scientists, architects, tech moguls, business owners, university students? Such an ignorant take.


Tech moguls are not affected by wars. No moguls are.

With regard to doctors and scientists, my sincere advice to you is to ride more taxis and poll their owners on what their professions were in their native lands. You'd be surprised how many white collar people are forced to downgrade to menial jobs. Language difficulties, licensure issues, adjustment problems, the list goes on. What's ignorant is to blithely assume that any country in the world, much less Poland, is able to successfully metabolize an additional million workers without damage to the labor market , native born workforce, or the social support systems.


You would be wrong. One more time for the latecomers. https://balkaninsight.com/2023/02/08/ukrainia...ng%20these%20people.


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DP.. Original post worked fine. Try this. https://balkaninsight.com/2023/02/08/ukrainian-refugees-prove-their-value-in-poland-and-elsewhere/#:~:text=And%20according%20to%20estimates%20by,state's%20expenditure%20aiding%20these%20people.
Anonymous
Post 09/20/2023 12:04     Subject: Ukrainian victory over Russia is inevitable

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Poland will likely not extend the support for the roughly 1 million Ukrainian refugees it is hosting to the same extent for the following year, Polish government spokesperson Piotr Müller told Polsat News on Sept. 18.

Poland has hosted the largest number of Ukrainian refugees of all countries. The U.N. records around 6 million refugees residing abroad as a result of Russian aggression.

In a show of solidarity with besieged Ukraine, Warsaw decided to assist Ukrainian refugees by waiving residency requirements and providing free access to education, healthcare, and family benefits.

Now, the Polish government signals this aid may not be prolonged for 2024, at the very least not at the same scale.

"These regulations will simply expire next year," Müller said on television.

"I think the regulations will not be extended to a large extent," he noted, adding that the international community should become more involved in the support.

https://kyivindependent.com/poland-says-it-may-cut-aid-for-ukrainian-refugees-next-year/


The best and fastest way for Poland to be able to send Ukraine's refugees back would be to continue to do as much as it can to help Ukraine clear and secure its lands from violent illegal Russian occupation. Dropping support for Ukraine and letting Russia win would only lead to more Ukrainian refugees. Any thinking person should be able to understand this.


LOL no Ukrainians would much rather stay in Europe than return even to peaceful Ukraine. Moron.

Unnecessary but I agree that many will choose to stay for their children. I assume a program is established for refugees to work, pay taxes and positively contribute to society as temporary citizens.


The main reason they would "stay for their children" is for peace and security. The best way to achieve peace and security is through defeating Russia. Any thinking person should be able to understand this.

The person shrieking "moron" is clearly not a thinking person.