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Post 09/20/2023 12:02     Subject: Ukrainian victory over Russia is inevitable

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Anonymous wrote:Poland will likely not extend the support for the roughly 1 million Ukrainian refugees it is hosting to the same extent for the following year, Polish government spokesperson Piotr Müller told Polsat News on Sept. 18.

Poland has hosted the largest number of Ukrainian refugees of all countries. The U.N. records around 6 million refugees residing abroad as a result of Russian aggression.

In a show of solidarity with besieged Ukraine, Warsaw decided to assist Ukrainian refugees by waiving residency requirements and providing free access to education, healthcare, and family benefits.

Now, the Polish government signals this aid may not be prolonged for 2024, at the very least not at the same scale.

"These regulations will simply expire next year," Müller said on television.

"I think the regulations will not be extended to a large extent," he noted, adding that the international community should become more involved in the support.

https://kyivindependent.com/poland-says-it-may-cut-aid-for-ukrainian-refugees-next-year/


The best and fastest way for Poland to be able to send Ukraine's refugees back would be to continue to do as much as it can to help Ukraine clear and secure its lands from violent illegal Russian occupation. Dropping support for Ukraine and letting Russia win would only lead to more Ukrainian refugees. Any thinking person should be able to understand this.


LOL no Ukrainians would much rather stay in Europe than return even to peaceful Ukraine. Moron.

Unnecessary but I agree that many will choose to stay for their children. I assume a program is established for refugees to work, pay taxes and positively contribute to society as temporary citizens.


Yes bc a mass migration and welfare program like that is always positively embraced by the native populace! /s


Why? Do you think Ukrainian refugees were welfare status in their homeland? Where are all the doctors, teachers, scientists, architects, tech moguls, business owners, university students? Such an ignorant take.


Tech moguls are not affected by wars. No moguls are.

With regard to doctors and scientists, my sincere advice to you is to ride more taxis and poll their owners on what their professions were in their native lands. You'd be surprised how many white collar people are forced to downgrade to menial jobs. Language difficulties, licensure issues, adjustment problems, the list goes on. What's ignorant is to blithely assume that any country in the world, much less Poland, is able to successfully metabolize an additional million workers without damage to the labor market , native born workforce, or the social support systems.


You would be wrong. One more time for the latecomers. https://balkaninsight.com/2023/02/08/ukrainia...ng%20these%20people.


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Post 09/20/2023 11:59     Subject: Ukrainian victory over Russia is inevitable

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Anonymous wrote:Poland will likely not extend the support for the roughly 1 million Ukrainian refugees it is hosting to the same extent for the following year, Polish government spokesperson Piotr Müller told Polsat News on Sept. 18.

Poland has hosted the largest number of Ukrainian refugees of all countries. The U.N. records around 6 million refugees residing abroad as a result of Russian aggression.

In a show of solidarity with besieged Ukraine, Warsaw decided to assist Ukrainian refugees by waiving residency requirements and providing free access to education, healthcare, and family benefits.

Now, the Polish government signals this aid may not be prolonged for 2024, at the very least not at the same scale.

"These regulations will simply expire next year," Müller said on television.

"I think the regulations will not be extended to a large extent," he noted, adding that the international community should become more involved in the support.

https://kyivindependent.com/poland-says-it-may-cut-aid-for-ukrainian-refugees-next-year/


The best and fastest way for Poland to be able to send Ukraine's refugees back would be to continue to do as much as it can to help Ukraine clear and secure its lands from violent illegal Russian occupation. Dropping support for Ukraine and letting Russia win would only lead to more Ukrainian refugees. Any thinking person should be able to understand this.


LOL no Ukrainians would much rather stay in Europe than return even to peaceful Ukraine. Moron.

Unnecessary but I agree that many will choose to stay for their children. I assume a program is established for refugees to work, pay taxes and positively contribute to society as temporary citizens.


Yes bc a mass migration and welfare program like that is always positively embraced by the native populace! /s


Why? Do you think Ukrainian refugees were welfare status in their homeland? Where are all the doctors, teachers, scientists, architects, tech moguls, business owners, university students? Such an ignorant take.


Tech moguls are not affected by wars. No moguls are.

With regard to doctors and scientists, my sincere advice to you is to ride more taxis and poll their owners on what their professions were in their native lands. You'd be surprised how many white collar people are forced to downgrade to menial jobs. Language difficulties, licensure issues, adjustment problems, the list goes on. What's ignorant is to blithely assume that any country in the world, much less Poland, is able to successfully metabolize an additional million workers without damage to the labor market , native born workforce, or the social support systems.


You would be wrong. One more time for the latecomers. https://balkaninsight.com/2023/02/08/ukrainia...ng%20these%20people.
Anonymous
Post 09/20/2023 11:44     Subject: Ukrainian victory over Russia is inevitable

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Anonymous wrote:Poland will likely not extend the support for the roughly 1 million Ukrainian refugees it is hosting to the same extent for the following year, Polish government spokesperson Piotr Müller told Polsat News on Sept. 18.

Poland has hosted the largest number of Ukrainian refugees of all countries. The U.N. records around 6 million refugees residing abroad as a result of Russian aggression.

In a show of solidarity with besieged Ukraine, Warsaw decided to assist Ukrainian refugees by waiving residency requirements and providing free access to education, healthcare, and family benefits.

Now, the Polish government signals this aid may not be prolonged for 2024, at the very least not at the same scale.

"These regulations will simply expire next year," Müller said on television.

"I think the regulations will not be extended to a large extent," he noted, adding that the international community should become more involved in the support.

https://kyivindependent.com/poland-says-it-may-cut-aid-for-ukrainian-refugees-next-year/


The best and fastest way for Poland to be able to send Ukraine's refugees back would be to continue to do as much as it can to help Ukraine clear and secure its lands from violent illegal Russian occupation. Dropping support for Ukraine and letting Russia win would only lead to more Ukrainian refugees. Any thinking person should be able to understand this.


LOL no Ukrainians would much rather stay in Europe than return even to peaceful Ukraine. Moron.

Unnecessary but I agree that many will choose to stay for their children. I assume a program is established for refugees to work, pay taxes and positively contribute to society as temporary citizens.


Yes bc a mass migration and welfare program like that is always positively embraced by the native populace! /s


Why? Do you think Ukrainian refugees were welfare status in their homeland? Where are all the doctors, teachers, scientists, architects, tech moguls, business owners, university students? Such an ignorant take.


Tech moguls are not affected by wars. No moguls are.

With regard to doctors and scientists, my sincere advice to you is to ride more taxis and poll their owners on what their professions were in their native lands. You'd be surprised how many white collar people are forced to downgrade to menial jobs. Language difficulties, licensure issues, adjustment problems, the list goes on. What's ignorant is to blithely assume that any country in the world, much less Poland, is able to successfully metabolize an additional million workers without damage to the labor market , native born workforce, or the social support systems.
Anonymous
Post 09/20/2023 11:44     Subject: Ukrainian victory over Russia is inevitable

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Anonymous wrote:Poland will likely not extend the support for the roughly 1 million Ukrainian refugees it is hosting to the same extent for the following year, Polish government spokesperson Piotr Müller told Polsat News on Sept. 18.

Poland has hosted the largest number of Ukrainian refugees of all countries. The U.N. records around 6 million refugees residing abroad as a result of Russian aggression.

In a show of solidarity with besieged Ukraine, Warsaw decided to assist Ukrainian refugees by waiving residency requirements and providing free access to education, healthcare, and family benefits.

Now, the Polish government signals this aid may not be prolonged for 2024, at the very least not at the same scale.

"These regulations will simply expire next year," Müller said on television.

"I think the regulations will not be extended to a large extent," he noted, adding that the international community should become more involved in the support.

https://kyivindependent.com/poland-says-it-may-cut-aid-for-ukrainian-refugees-next-year/


The best and fastest way for Poland to be able to send Ukraine's refugees back would be to continue to do as much as it can to help Ukraine clear and secure its lands from violent illegal Russian occupation. Dropping support for Ukraine and letting Russia win would only lead to more Ukrainian refugees. Any thinking person should be able to understand this.


LOL no Ukrainians would much rather stay in Europe than return even to peaceful Ukraine. Moron.

Unnecessary but I agree that many will choose to stay for their children. I assume a program is established for refugees to work, pay taxes and positively contribute to society as temporary citizens.


Yes bc a mass migration and welfare program like that is always positively embraced by the native populace! /s


Why? Do you think Ukrainian refugees were welfare status in their homeland? Where are all the doctors, teachers, scientists, architects, tech moguls, business owners, university students? Such an ignorant take.


As I pointed out— https://balkaninsight.com/2023/02/08/ukrainian-refugees-prove-their-value-in-poland-and-elsewhere/#:~:text=And%20according%20to%20estimates%20by,state's%20expenditure%20aiding%20these%20people.
Anonymous
Post 09/20/2023 11:39     Subject: Ukrainian victory over Russia is inevitable

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Anonymous wrote:Poland will likely not extend the support for the roughly 1 million Ukrainian refugees it is hosting to the same extent for the following year, Polish government spokesperson Piotr Müller told Polsat News on Sept. 18.

Poland has hosted the largest number of Ukrainian refugees of all countries. The U.N. records around 6 million refugees residing abroad as a result of Russian aggression.

In a show of solidarity with besieged Ukraine, Warsaw decided to assist Ukrainian refugees by waiving residency requirements and providing free access to education, healthcare, and family benefits.

Now, the Polish government signals this aid may not be prolonged for 2024, at the very least not at the same scale.

"These regulations will simply expire next year," Müller said on television.

"I think the regulations will not be extended to a large extent," he noted, adding that the international community should become more involved in the support.

https://kyivindependent.com/poland-says-it-may-cut-aid-for-ukrainian-refugees-next-year/


The best and fastest way for Poland to be able to send Ukraine's refugees back would be to continue to do as much as it can to help Ukraine clear and secure its lands from violent illegal Russian occupation. Dropping support for Ukraine and letting Russia win would only lead to more Ukrainian refugees. Any thinking person should be able to understand this.


LOL no Ukrainians would much rather stay in Europe than return even to peaceful Ukraine. Moron.

Unnecessary but I agree that many will choose to stay for their children. I assume a program is established for refugees to work, pay taxes and positively contribute to society as temporary citizens.


Yes bc a mass migration and welfare program like that is always positively embraced by the native populace! /s


Why? Do you think Ukrainian refugees were welfare status in their homeland? Where are all the doctors, teachers, scientists, architects, tech moguls, business owners, university students? Such an ignorant take.
Anonymous
Post 09/20/2023 11:30     Subject: Ukrainian victory over Russia is inevitable

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Anonymous wrote:Poland will likely not extend the support for the roughly 1 million Ukrainian refugees it is hosting to the same extent for the following year, Polish government spokesperson Piotr Müller told Polsat News on Sept. 18.

Poland has hosted the largest number of Ukrainian refugees of all countries. The U.N. records around 6 million refugees residing abroad as a result of Russian aggression.

In a show of solidarity with besieged Ukraine, Warsaw decided to assist Ukrainian refugees by waiving residency requirements and providing free access to education, healthcare, and family benefits.

Now, the Polish government signals this aid may not be prolonged for 2024, at the very least not at the same scale.

"These regulations will simply expire next year," Müller said on television.

"I think the regulations will not be extended to a large extent," he noted, adding that the international community should become more involved in the support.

https://kyivindependent.com/poland-says-it-may-cut-aid-for-ukrainian-refugees-next-year/


The best and fastest way for Poland to be able to send Ukraine's refugees back would be to continue to do as much as it can to help Ukraine clear and secure its lands from violent illegal Russian occupation. Dropping support for Ukraine and letting Russia win would only lead to more Ukrainian refugees. Any thinking person should be able to understand this.


LOL no Ukrainians would much rather stay in Europe than return even to peaceful Ukraine. Moron.

Unnecessary but I agree that many will choose to stay for their children. I assume a program is established for refugees to work, pay taxes and positively contribute to society as temporary citizens.


Yes bc a mass migration and welfare program like that is always positively embraced by the native populace! /s
Anonymous
Post 09/20/2023 11:26     Subject: Ukrainian victory over Russia is inevitable

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Anonymous wrote:Poland will likely not extend the support for the roughly 1 million Ukrainian refugees it is hosting to the same extent for the following year, Polish government spokesperson Piotr Müller told Polsat News on Sept. 18.

Poland has hosted the largest number of Ukrainian refugees of all countries. The U.N. records around 6 million refugees residing abroad as a result of Russian aggression.

In a show of solidarity with besieged Ukraine, Warsaw decided to assist Ukrainian refugees by waiving residency requirements and providing free access to education, healthcare, and family benefits.

Now, the Polish government signals this aid may not be prolonged for 2024, at the very least not at the same scale.

"These regulations will simply expire next year," Müller said on television.

"I think the regulations will not be extended to a large extent," he noted, adding that the international community should become more involved in the support.

https://kyivindependent.com/poland-says-it-may-cut-aid-for-ukrainian-refugees-next-year/


The best and fastest way for Poland to be able to send Ukraine's refugees back would be to continue to do as much as it can to help Ukraine clear and secure its lands from violent illegal Russian occupation. Dropping support for Ukraine and letting Russia win would only lead to more Ukrainian refugees. Any thinking person should be able to understand this.


LOL no Ukrainians would much rather stay in Europe than return even to peaceful Ukraine. Moron.

Unnecessary but I agree that many will choose to stay for their children. I assume a program is established for refugees to work, pay taxes and positively contribute to society as temporary citizens.
Anonymous
Post 09/20/2023 11:16     Subject: Ukrainian victory over Russia is inevitable

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Anonymous wrote:Poland will likely not extend the support for the roughly 1 million Ukrainian refugees it is hosting to the same extent for the following year, Polish government spokesperson Piotr Müller told Polsat News on Sept. 18.

Poland has hosted the largest number of Ukrainian refugees of all countries. The U.N. records around 6 million refugees residing abroad as a result of Russian aggression.

In a show of solidarity with besieged Ukraine, Warsaw decided to assist Ukrainian refugees by waiving residency requirements and providing free access to education, healthcare, and family benefits.

Now, the Polish government signals this aid may not be prolonged for 2024, at the very least not at the same scale.

"These regulations will simply expire next year," Müller said on television.

"I think the regulations will not be extended to a large extent," he noted, adding that the international community should become more involved in the support.

https://kyivindependent.com/poland-says-it-may-cut-aid-for-ukrainian-refugees-next-year/


The best and fastest way for Poland to be able to send Ukraine's refugees back would be to continue to do as much as it can to help Ukraine clear and secure its lands from violent illegal Russian occupation. Dropping support for Ukraine and letting Russia win would only lead to more Ukrainian refugees. Any thinking person should be able to understand this.


LOL no Ukrainians would much rather stay in Europe than return even to peaceful Ukraine. Moron.
Anonymous
Post 09/20/2023 10:51     Subject: Ukrainian victory over Russia is inevitable

Anonymous wrote:Poland will likely not extend the support for the roughly 1 million Ukrainian refugees it is hosting to the same extent for the following year, Polish government spokesperson Piotr Müller told Polsat News on Sept. 18.

Poland has hosted the largest number of Ukrainian refugees of all countries. The U.N. records around 6 million refugees residing abroad as a result of Russian aggression.

In a show of solidarity with besieged Ukraine, Warsaw decided to assist Ukrainian refugees by waiving residency requirements and providing free access to education, healthcare, and family benefits.

Now, the Polish government signals this aid may not be prolonged for 2024, at the very least not at the same scale.

"These regulations will simply expire next year," Müller said on television.

"I think the regulations will not be extended to a large extent," he noted, adding that the international community should become more involved in the support.

https://kyivindependent.com/poland-says-it-may-cut-aid-for-ukrainian-refugees-next-year/


The best and fastest way for Poland to be able to send Ukraine's refugees back would be to continue to do as much as it can to help Ukraine clear and secure its lands from violent illegal Russian occupation. Dropping support for Ukraine and letting Russia win would only lead to more Ukrainian refugees. Any thinking person should be able to understand this.
Anonymous
Post 09/20/2023 10:46     Subject: Ukrainian victory over Russia is inevitable

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Actually Ukraine is plastering Russian troop concentrations just about as fast as Russia can send troops to the frontlines. That's probably why I believe the last of the Russian elite unit reserves were committed near Robotyne?

With the caveat that Human Life is precious; no, Russia can't afford to lose healthy males. "8.5 inhabitants per square kilometre (22 inhabitants/sq mi). As of 2020" Also it's birthrate is dropping like a rock (between young people fleeing the country or getting killed in Ukraine). "The population density in Ukraine is 63 per Km2 (164 people per mi2)." which is about 8x as much. Also, Russia is invading Ukraine, so has to pull out resources (vs just reposition them).


I don't know where you get your info, but August was Russia's lowest casualty month since the start of the SMO, and September is looking to be in the same range. Since the Ukrainian counter-offensive started, casualties are running roughly 10-1 in Russia's favor.

Maybe meatwave attacks along a broad entrenched/mined front without air support is considered suicide for a reason. Russia is glad to trade a K for a K. That's 1 square kilometer for 1,000 Ukrainians.

If you valued the lives of your troops, you would have called this offensive off long ago and just dug in. But between this and Bakhmut, I think Zelensky wants to kill as many of his troops as possible.


Pretty sure Russia lost a sub and landing ship, some radars/anti aircraft batteries and a helicopter with pilot.

Not too bad for a months work.


And they even hit the airbase where Putin keeps his doomsday jet. https://metro.co.uk/2023/09/20/russia-strike-moscow-airbase-putin-ukraine-latest-19528376/
Anonymous
Post 09/20/2023 10:44     Subject: Ukrainian victory over Russia is inevitable

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Actually Ukraine is plastering Russian troop concentrations just about as fast as Russia can send troops to the frontlines. That's probably why I believe the last of the Russian elite unit reserves were committed near Robotyne?

With the caveat that Human Life is precious; no, Russia can't afford to lose healthy males. "8.5 inhabitants per square kilometre (22 inhabitants/sq mi). As of 2020" Also it's birthrate is dropping like a rock (between young people fleeing the country or getting killed in Ukraine). "The population density in Ukraine is 63 per Km2 (164 people per mi2)." which is about 8x as much. Also, Russia is invading Ukraine, so has to pull out resources (vs just reposition them).


I don't know where you get your info, but August was Russia's lowest casualty month since the start of the SMO, and September is looking to be in the same range. Since the Ukrainian counter-offensive started, casualties are running roughly 10-1 in Russia's favor.

Maybe meatwave attacks along a broad entrenched/mined front without air support is considered suicide for a reason. Russia is glad to trade a K for a K. That's 1 square kilometer for 1,000 Ukrainians.

If you valued the lives of your troops, you would have called this offensive off long ago and just dug in. But between this and Bakhmut, I think Zelensky wants to kill as many of his troops as possible.


We know where you get your information from, Kremlin propaganda-bot.

Russia's lowest casualty month since the start of the SMO?
10-1 in Russia's favor?

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

How about trying more credible fictions
Anonymous
Post 09/20/2023 10:12     Subject: Ukrainian victory over Russia is inevitable

Anonymous wrote:Wait, is this an actual thing? I thought it was a parody skit...


This is what the Ukraine chose to represent it in English language media. Think about what that says about both Ukraine and English speaking Ukraine supporters that this seemed like a good idea.
Anonymous
Post 09/20/2023 10:00     Subject: Ukrainian victory over Russia is inevitable

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Anonymous wrote:Poland will likely not extend the support for the roughly 1 million Ukrainian refugees it is hosting to the same extent for the following year, Polish government spokesperson Piotr Müller told Polsat News on Sept. 18.

Poland has hosted the largest number of Ukrainian refugees of all countries. The U.N. records around 6 million refugees residing abroad as a result of Russian aggression.

In a show of solidarity with besieged Ukraine, Warsaw decided to assist Ukrainian refugees by waiving residency requirements and providing free access to education, healthcare, and family benefits.

Now, the Polish government signals this aid may not be prolonged for 2024, at the very least not at the same scale.

"These regulations will simply expire next year," Müller said on television.

"I think the regulations will not be extended to a large extent," he noted, adding that the international community should become more involved in the support.

https://kyivindependent.com/poland-says-it-may-cut-aid-for-ukrainian-refugees-next-year/


poles are probably historically the most anti Russian people in the planet and even they are getting sick of Ukraine

😂 😂 😂


I think they want to see some humility in exchange for the scale of support they've been providing, and historically this has never been Ukraine's strength.
Anonymous
Post 09/20/2023 09:56     Subject: Ukrainian victory over Russia is inevitable

Anonymous wrote:Poland will likely not extend the support for the roughly 1 million Ukrainian refugees it is hosting to the same extent for the following year, Polish government spokesperson Piotr Müller told Polsat News on Sept. 18.

Poland has hosted the largest number of Ukrainian refugees of all countries. The U.N. records around 6 million refugees residing abroad as a result of Russian aggression.

In a show of solidarity with besieged Ukraine, Warsaw decided to assist Ukrainian refugees by waiving residency requirements and providing free access to education, healthcare, and family benefits.

Now, the Polish government signals this aid may not be prolonged for 2024, at the very least not at the same scale.

"These regulations will simply expire next year," Müller said on television.

"I think the regulations will not be extended to a large extent," he noted, adding that the international community should become more involved in the support.

https://kyivindependent.com/poland-says-it-may-cut-aid-for-ukrainian-refugees-next-year/


poles are probably historically the most anti Russian people in the planet and even they are getting sick of Ukraine

😂 😂 😂
Anonymous
Post 09/20/2023 09:52     Subject: Ukrainian victory over Russia is inevitable

Poland wants some money for their troubles.
Ok.