Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Everyone who questioned why Burke went to Megyn Kelly, just take a look at the article TMZ just put out. It’s far more tame than what Burke said (as someone pointed out in the comments) which shows mainstream media is bought and paid for. My guess is Leslie got to the and carefully negotiated the wording. It waters down what Burke said. Such a disgrace. Hope that answers your questions about why go on Megyn Kelly.
No. TMZ is just a celeb tabloid. That's not it either.
She could have gone on any one of the legal podcasts that discuss the intersection of law and feminism. I am positive they would have had her. It would have gotten traction with people following this case no matter where because it's a big story. Choosing Megyn Kelly, who has a close relationship with Freedman and who actively opposes the MeToo movement is a very intentional choice. I don't get it.
You don't understand why she would pick a show with a big audience? Be real. An esoteric legal podcast is not going to get her message out.
There are other shows with big audiences where the host doesn't support Harvey Weinstein or defend Jeffrey Epstein.
Clearly she doesn't have the same super restrictive purity meter as you.
Are you the one who just claimed that the entire mainstream media is in Blake's pocket, making a Harvey Weinstein apologist the only acceptable venue for this?
But i'm the one bring overly restrictive. Hmmm
She could have issued a press release clearly laying out her position and it would have been picked up by everyone. She also could have filed an amended custody brief with the court. She had a million options. She chose Megyn Kelly, a Bryan Freedman client who recently claimed it unfair to call Epstein a pedophile because he was into teenagers and not pre-pubescent children. She chose that.
Yep she could’ve issued a press release. Oh that’s right she posted on social media 4 days ago and no one picked it up. When Megyn Kelly shared it and it became something they couldn’t ignore, they framed it in the light most favorable to Blake.
She didn't post to social media in a public way. She responded to something else with a comment that in retrospect was confusing, it was outed in one of Flaa's videos, and then within a few hours she was appearing on Megyn Kelly.
It seems like she had no intention of taking this public at all but then wound up choosing weird venues for doing so.
I also think she was unprepared for the kind of interview Kelly was inevitably going to do (she has a very specific agenda and it is NOT supportive of the cause) which is what led to the Johnny Depp comments.
Basically it was messy chaos, which is why many people are confused.
I think she is trying to reach Liman's ears.
As someone actually involved in the passage of the law Liman is currently being asked to interpret, the only way to actually "reach his ears" is via an amicus brief. He's not watching Billy Bush. If she wants to influence Liman, she can apply to submit an amicus.
The only reason to go on Megyn Kelly and Billy Bush is to "reach the ears" of people who watch those shows. Meaning MAGA people who think Harvey Weinstein is innocent, Donald Trump was just engaging in "locker room talk" when he talked about grabbing women "by the pussy", and those who think it's unfair to call Jeffrey Epstein a pedophile because, after all, he only raped 15 yr old girls, not 8 yr olds.
Why would a feminist want to speak to that audience?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Now Burke is on Billy Bush, hah.
Ok so Billy asked her why she celebrated when Justin’s case was dismissed. She said she hadn’t read the ruling, had only read the media story, and made the incorrect assumption that the judged ruled based on 47.1, including the question of malice. She said it wasn’t until she read the entire 100+ page ruling that she realized that wasn’t the case.
So just as we’ve suspected all along with Blake’s supporters, it was ignorance lol.
This just makes her sound dumb though.
If she celebrated when Justin's case was dismissed under the assumption that 47.1 had been applied and contributed to its dismissal, then she clearly believed at the time that Blake was bringing her 47.1 motion appropriately and deserved to prevail. Now she claims that since the judge didn't use 47.1 in the dismissal, Blake can no longer use it, but she also says she hasn't changed her opinion on the original facts of the case. But on top of that she says the law isn't really for someone wealthy like Blake, but Blake was wealthy when Burke was supporting Blake's motion and celebrating the dismissal of Justin's case. It's not like Burke just found out for the first time that Blake Lively is a wealthy actress.
It just gets weirder with ever word out of her mouth.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Everyone who questioned why Burke went to Megyn Kelly, just take a look at the article TMZ just put out. It’s far more tame than what Burke said (as someone pointed out in the comments) which shows mainstream media is bought and paid for. My guess is Leslie got to the and carefully negotiated the wording. It waters down what Burke said. Such a disgrace. Hope that answers your questions about why go on Megyn Kelly.
No. TMZ is just a celeb tabloid. That's not it either.
She could have gone on any one of the legal podcasts that discuss the intersection of law and feminism. I am positive they would have had her. It would have gotten traction with people following this case no matter where because it's a big story. Choosing Megyn Kelly, who has a close relationship with Freedman and who actively opposes the MeToo movement is a very intentional choice. I don't get it.
You don't understand why she would pick a show with a big audience? Be real. An esoteric legal podcast is not going to get her message out.
There are other shows with big audiences where the host doesn't support Harvey Weinstein or defend Jeffrey Epstein.
Clearly she doesn't have the same super restrictive purity meter as you.
Are you the one who just claimed that the entire mainstream media is in Blake's pocket, making a Harvey Weinstein apologist the only acceptable venue for this?
But i'm the one bring overly restrictive. Hmmm
She could have issued a press release clearly laying out her position and it would have been picked up by everyone. She also could have filed an amended custody brief with the court. She had a million options. She chose Megyn Kelly, a Bryan Freedman client who recently claimed it unfair to call Epstein a pedophile because he was into teenagers and not pre-pubescent children. She chose that.
Yep she could’ve issued a press release. Oh that’s right she posted on social media 4 days ago and no one picked it up. When Megyn Kelly shared it and it became something they couldn’t ignore, they framed it in the light most favorable to Blake.
She didn't post to social media in a public way. She responded to something else with a comment that in retrospect was confusing, it was outed in one of Flaa's videos, and then within a few hours she was appearing on Megyn Kelly.
It seems like she had no intention of taking this public at all but then wound up choosing weird venues for doing so.
I also think she was unprepared for the kind of interview Kelly was inevitably going to do (she has a very specific agenda and it is NOT supportive of the cause) which is what led to the Johnny Depp comments.
Basically it was messy chaos, which is why many people are confused.
I think she is trying to reach Liman's ears.
Anonymous wrote:I fundamentally don't understand what Burke is saying because it doesn't square with the law itself.
She keeps saying that the law was intended only to protect people who can't afford to defend themselves in defamation actions. Yet the law includes no provision restricting its application to indigent persons, and I have seen nothing from the legislative record indicating this was the intent of the law.
She also says that the law only applies if there has already been a finding of malice. Again, there is nothing in the law itself or the legislative record saying this, she seems to think it should just have been inferred. And if that's the case, it needs to be clear because in order to have a finding of malice, the judge or jury must actually take that question up. In Blake's case, the judge never considered one way or another whether the case against her was brought with malice. And why would he? 47.1 doesn't say that's required, and he clearly believed 47.1 could only be applied later. There also seems to be this assumption that had Blake gone to trial on her case and won, that would have decided this issue, but it wouldn't have because *that* case didn't address whether the defamation case against Blake was brought "with malice."
Burke is essentially arguing that the law should be amended or changed. Which is fine, maybe it is not workable as written and needs to be fixed. But in that case, her problem isn't with Blake but with the CA legislators who adopted the law without addressing these issues. But Burke is going on right wing podcasts closely associated with Bryan Freedman to make these arguments in interviews that attack Blake for ever having brought the 47.1 motion in the first place, something Burke championed when it happened.
It's nonsense. I can't take this person seriously.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Now Burke is on Billy Bush, hah.
Ok so Billy asked her why she celebrated when Justin’s case was dismissed. She said she hadn’t read the ruling, had only read the media story, and made the incorrect assumption that the judged ruled based on 47.1, including the question of malice. She said it wasn’t until she read the entire 100+ page ruling that she realized that wasn’t the case.
So just as we’ve suspected all along with Blake’s supporters, it was ignorance lol.
Anonymous wrote:Now Burke is on Billy Bush, hah.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Everyone who questioned why Burke went to Megyn Kelly, just take a look at the article TMZ just put out. It’s far more tame than what Burke said (as someone pointed out in the comments) which shows mainstream media is bought and paid for. My guess is Leslie got to the and carefully negotiated the wording. It waters down what Burke said. Such a disgrace. Hope that answers your questions about why go on Megyn Kelly.
No. TMZ is just a celeb tabloid. That's not it either.
She could have gone on any one of the legal podcasts that discuss the intersection of law and feminism. I am positive they would have had her. It would have gotten traction with people following this case no matter where because it's a big story. Choosing Megyn Kelly, who has a close relationship with Freedman and who actively opposes the MeToo movement is a very intentional choice. I don't get it.
You don't understand why she would pick a show with a big audience? Be real. An esoteric legal podcast is not going to get her message out.
There are other shows with big audiences where the host doesn't support Harvey Weinstein or defend Jeffrey Epstein.
Clearly she doesn't have the same super restrictive purity meter as you.
Are you the one who just claimed that the entire mainstream media is in Blake's pocket, making a Harvey Weinstein apologist the only acceptable venue for this?
But i'm the one bring overly restrictive. Hmmm
She could have issued a press release clearly laying out her position and it would have been picked up by everyone. She also could have filed an amended custody brief with the court. She had a million options. She chose Megyn Kelly, a Bryan Freedman client who recently claimed it unfair to call Epstein a pedophile because he was into teenagers and not pre-pubescent children. She chose that.
Yep she could’ve issued a press release. Oh that’s right she posted on social media 4 days ago and no one picked it up. When Megyn Kelly shared it and it became something they couldn’t ignore, they framed it in the light most favorable to Blake.
Maybe she’s a little problematic, and so is the law she’s been peddling around. Her whole argument for not wanting Blake’s involvement is that they were quietly implementing it, and now there’s all this publicity attached to this law. She doesn’t want Blake using 47.1 for PR, because she doesn’t want any PR. I was expecting her to explain why/how this law doesn’t apply to Blake, but that doesn’t seem to be her issue.
Meh. The full video is up now. Gives more context than the clip. She basically says the law wasn’t intended to apply when there’s been no fact finding of malice (which is an issue Liman has raised),and the SH claims were thrown out. She said she was surprised they didn’t deal with this in settlement. She said this law was intended to protect the less powerless against the powerful. Megyn said yeah and that’s not Blake. Victoria played it cool and didn’t respond with words but smirked/laughed in agreement.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Everyone who questioned why Burke went to Megyn Kelly, just take a look at the article TMZ just put out. It’s far more tame than what Burke said (as someone pointed out in the comments) which shows mainstream media is bought and paid for. My guess is Leslie got to the and carefully negotiated the wording. It waters down what Burke said. Such a disgrace. Hope that answers your questions about why go on Megyn Kelly.
No. TMZ is just a celeb tabloid. That's not it either.
She could have gone on any one of the legal podcasts that discuss the intersection of law and feminism. I am positive they would have had her. It would have gotten traction with people following this case no matter where because it's a big story. Choosing Megyn Kelly, who has a close relationship with Freedman and who actively opposes the MeToo movement is a very intentional choice. I don't get it.
You don't understand why she would pick a show with a big audience? Be real. An esoteric legal podcast is not going to get her message out.
There are other shows with big audiences where the host doesn't support Harvey Weinstein or defend Jeffrey Epstein.
Clearly she doesn't have the same super restrictive purity meter as you.
Are you the one who just claimed that the entire mainstream media is in Blake's pocket, making a Harvey Weinstein apologist the only acceptable venue for this?
But i'm the one bring overly restrictive. Hmmm
She could have issued a press release clearly laying out her position and it would have been picked up by everyone. She also could have filed an amended custody brief with the court. She had a million options. She chose Megyn Kelly, a Bryan Freedman client who recently claimed it unfair to call Epstein a pedophile because he was into teenagers and not pre-pubescent children. She chose that.
Yep she could’ve issued a press release. Oh that’s right she posted on social media 4 days ago and no one picked it up. When Megyn Kelly shared it and it became something they couldn’t ignore, they framed it in the light most favorable to Blake.
She didn't post to social media in a public way. She responded to something else with a comment that in retrospect was confusing, it was outed in one of Flaa's videos, and then within a few hours she was appearing on Megyn Kelly.
It seems like she had no intention of taking this public at all but then wound up choosing weird venues for doing so.
I also think she was unprepared for the kind of interview Kelly was inevitably going to do (she has a very specific agenda and it is NOT supportive of the cause) which is what led to the Johnny Depp comments.
Basically it was messy chaos, which is why many people are confused.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Everyone who questioned why Burke went to Megyn Kelly, just take a look at the article TMZ just put out. It’s far more tame than what Burke said (as someone pointed out in the comments) which shows mainstream media is bought and paid for. My guess is Leslie got to the and carefully negotiated the wording. It waters down what Burke said. Such a disgrace. Hope that answers your questions about why go on Megyn Kelly.
No. TMZ is just a celeb tabloid. That's not it either.
She could have gone on any one of the legal podcasts that discuss the intersection of law and feminism. I am positive they would have had her. It would have gotten traction with people following this case no matter where because it's a big story. Choosing Megyn Kelly, who has a close relationship with Freedman and who actively opposes the MeToo movement is a very intentional choice. I don't get it.
You don't understand why she would pick a show with a big audience? Be real. An esoteric legal podcast is not going to get her message out.
There are other shows with big audiences where the host doesn't support Harvey Weinstein or defend Jeffrey Epstein.
Clearly she doesn't have the same super restrictive purity meter as you.
Are you the one who just claimed that the entire mainstream media is in Blake's pocket, making a Harvey Weinstein apologist the only acceptable venue for this?
But i'm the one bring overly restrictive. Hmmm
She could have issued a press release clearly laying out her position and it would have been picked up by everyone. She also could have filed an amended custody brief with the court. She had a million options. She chose Megyn Kelly, a Bryan Freedman client who recently claimed it unfair to call Epstein a pedophile because he was into teenagers and not pre-pubescent children. She chose that.
Yep she could’ve issued a press release. Oh that’s right she posted on social media 4 days ago and no one picked it up. When Megyn Kelly shared it and it became something they couldn’t ignore, they framed it in the light most favorable to Blake.
Maybe she’s a little problematic, and so is the law she’s been peddling around. Her whole argument for not wanting Blake’s involvement is that they were quietly implementing it, and now there’s all this publicity attached to this law. She doesn’t want Blake using 47.1 for PR, because she doesn’t want any PR. I was expecting her to explain why/how this law doesn’t apply to Blake, but that doesn’t seem to be her issue.
Meh. The full video is up now. Gives more context than the clip. She basically says the law wasn’t intended to apply when there’s been no fact finding of malice (which is an issue Liman has raised),and the SH claims were thrown out. She said she was surprised they didn’t deal with this in settlement. She said this law was intended to protect the less powerless against the powerful. Megyn said yeah and that’s not Blake. Victoria played it cool and didn’t respond with words but smirked/laughed in agreement.
It’s all confusing to me because her own story was that she didn’t even have a case (evidence was lost or something) and was advised she could be sued for speaking about her harassment and naming the person in a casual setting. If she’s saying 47.1 doesn’t apply in Blake’s instance, because the SH claims never went to trial and thus malice can’t be proved, how would 47.1 have helped someone like her? Or are we taking about malice from Baldoni’s suit?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Everyone who questioned why Burke went to Megyn Kelly, just take a look at the article TMZ just put out. It’s far more tame than what Burke said (as someone pointed out in the comments) which shows mainstream media is bought and paid for. My guess is Leslie got to the and carefully negotiated the wording. It waters down what Burke said. Such a disgrace. Hope that answers your questions about why go on Megyn Kelly.
No. TMZ is just a celeb tabloid. That's not it either.
She could have gone on any one of the legal podcasts that discuss the intersection of law and feminism. I am positive they would have had her. It would have gotten traction with people following this case no matter where because it's a big story. Choosing Megyn Kelly, who has a close relationship with Freedman and who actively opposes the MeToo movement is a very intentional choice. I don't get it.
You don't understand why she would pick a show with a big audience? Be real. An esoteric legal podcast is not going to get her message out.
There are other shows with big audiences where the host doesn't support Harvey Weinstein or defend Jeffrey Epstein.
Clearly she doesn't have the same super restrictive purity meter as you.
Are you the one who just claimed that the entire mainstream media is in Blake's pocket, making a Harvey Weinstein apologist the only acceptable venue for this?
But i'm the one bring overly restrictive. Hmmm
She could have issued a press release clearly laying out her position and it would have been picked up by everyone. She also could have filed an amended custody brief with the court. She had a million options. She chose Megyn Kelly, a Bryan Freedman client who recently claimed it unfair to call Epstein a pedophile because he was into teenagers and not pre-pubescent children. She chose that.
Yep she could’ve issued a press release. Oh that’s right she posted on social media 4 days ago and no one picked it up. When Megyn Kelly shared it and it became something they couldn’t ignore, they framed it in the light most favorable to Blake.
Maybe she’s a little problematic, and so is the law she’s been peddling around. Her whole argument for not wanting Blake’s involvement is that they were quietly implementing it, and now there’s all this publicity attached to this law. She doesn’t want Blake using 47.1 for PR, because she doesn’t want any PR. I was expecting her to explain why/how this law doesn’t apply to Blake, but that doesn’t seem to be her issue.
Meh. The full video is up now. Gives more context than the clip. She basically says the law wasn’t intended to apply when there’s been no fact finding of malice (which is an issue Liman has raised),and the SH claims were thrown out. She said she was surprised they didn’t deal with this in settlement. She said this law was intended to protect the less powerless against the powerful. Megyn said yeah and that’s not Blake. Victoria played it cool and didn’t respond with words but smirked/laughed in agreement.
It’s all confusing to me because her own story was that she didn’t even have a case (evidence was lost or something) and was advised she could be sued for speaking about her harassment and naming the person in a casual setting. If she’s saying 47.1 doesn’t apply in Blake’s instance, because the SH claims never went to trial and thus malice can’t be proved, how would 47.1 have helped someone like her? Or are we taking about malice from Baldoni’s suit?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Everyone who questioned why Burke went to Megyn Kelly, just take a look at the article TMZ just put out. It’s far more tame than what Burke said (as someone pointed out in the comments) which shows mainstream media is bought and paid for. My guess is Leslie got to the and carefully negotiated the wording. It waters down what Burke said. Such a disgrace. Hope that answers your questions about why go on Megyn Kelly.
No. TMZ is just a celeb tabloid. That's not it either.
She could have gone on any one of the legal podcasts that discuss the intersection of law and feminism. I am positive they would have had her. It would have gotten traction with people following this case no matter where because it's a big story. Choosing Megyn Kelly, who has a close relationship with Freedman and who actively opposes the MeToo movement is a very intentional choice. I don't get it.
You don't understand why she would pick a show with a big audience? Be real. An esoteric legal podcast is not going to get her message out.
There are other shows with big audiences where the host doesn't support Harvey Weinstein or defend Jeffrey Epstein.
Clearly she doesn't have the same super restrictive purity meter as you.
Are you the one who just claimed that the entire mainstream media is in Blake's pocket, making a Harvey Weinstein apologist the only acceptable venue for this?
But i'm the one bring overly restrictive. Hmmm
She could have issued a press release clearly laying out her position and it would have been picked up by everyone. She also could have filed an amended custody brief with the court. She had a million options. She chose Megyn Kelly, a Bryan Freedman client who recently claimed it unfair to call Epstein a pedophile because he was into teenagers and not pre-pubescent children. She chose that.
Yep she could’ve issued a press release. Oh that’s right she posted on social media 4 days ago and no one picked it up. When Megyn Kelly shared it and it became something they couldn’t ignore, they framed it in the light most favorable to Blake.
Maybe she’s a little problematic, and so is the law she’s been peddling around. Her whole argument for not wanting Blake’s involvement is that they were quietly implementing it, and now there’s all this publicity attached to this law. She doesn’t want Blake using 47.1 for PR, because she doesn’t want any PR. I was expecting her to explain why/how this law doesn’t apply to Blake, but that doesn’t seem to be her issue.
Meh. The full video is up now. Gives more context than the clip. She basically says the law wasn’t intended to apply when there’s been no fact finding of malice (which is an issue Liman has raised),and the SH claims were thrown out. She said she was surprised they didn’t deal with this in settlement. She said this law was intended to protect the less powerless against the powerful. Megyn said yeah and that’s not Blake. Victoria played it cool and didn’t respond with words but smirked/laughed in agreement.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Everyone who questioned why Burke went to Megyn Kelly, just take a look at the article TMZ just put out. It’s far more tame than what Burke said (as someone pointed out in the comments) which shows mainstream media is bought and paid for. My guess is Leslie got to the and carefully negotiated the wording. It waters down what Burke said. Such a disgrace. Hope that answers your questions about why go on Megyn Kelly.
No. TMZ is just a celeb tabloid. That's not it either.
She could have gone on any one of the legal podcasts that discuss the intersection of law and feminism. I am positive they would have had her. It would have gotten traction with people following this case no matter where because it's a big story. Choosing Megyn Kelly, who has a close relationship with Freedman and who actively opposes the MeToo movement is a very intentional choice. I don't get it.
You don't understand why she would pick a show with a big audience? Be real. An esoteric legal podcast is not going to get her message out.
There are other shows with big audiences where the host doesn't support Harvey Weinstein or defend Jeffrey Epstein.
Clearly she doesn't have the same super restrictive purity meter as you.
Are you the one who just claimed that the entire mainstream media is in Blake's pocket, making a Harvey Weinstein apologist the only acceptable venue for this?
But i'm the one bring overly restrictive. Hmmm
She could have issued a press release clearly laying out her position and it would have been picked up by everyone. She also could have filed an amended custody brief with the court. She had a million options. She chose Megyn Kelly, a Bryan Freedman client who recently claimed it unfair to call Epstein a pedophile because he was into teenagers and not pre-pubescent children. She chose that.
Yep she could’ve issued a press release. Oh that’s right she posted on social media 4 days ago and no one picked it up. When Megyn Kelly shared it and it became something they couldn’t ignore, they framed it in the light most favorable to Blake.
Maybe she’s a little problematic, and so is the law she’s been peddling around. Her whole argument for not wanting Blake’s involvement is that they were quietly implementing it, and now there’s all this publicity attached to this law. She doesn’t want Blake using 47.1 for PR, because she doesn’t want any PR. I was expecting her to explain why/how this law doesn’t apply to Blake, but that doesn’t seem to be her issue.