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Anonymous wrote:So there was a meeting in Lorton station December 17th. I missed that.


Where was that posted?


Found it: https://www.fcps.edu/about-fcps/maps/2024-202...e-2-part-2-fall-2025

They're exploring options for Hagel Circle.

Hagel Circle to Lorton Station makes the most sense, but there are a few other easy changes that the board can make to reduce capacity at Hayfield to eliminate the potential split feeder and reduce capacity at Lorton Station.

1.) Neighborhoods located at the corner of Gunston and Route 1 currently zoned for Hayfield - zone to South County. The South County busses that go out on Mason Neck drive through this intersection. This will also help make Gunston a more even split feeder. Due to the geographic area that Gunston encompasses, it's impossible to not have as a split feeder.

2.) Cancel the proposed move of Inlet Cove to Island Creek from Gunston - this puts Gunston's population back up at 83% where it is currently, pre the proposed thru maps.

3.) It was previously posted that Lorton Station is an AAP center, which it became after it shoved Hagel Circle out to Halley 10-15 years ago. AAP enrollment at Lorton Station shows that it's mostly utilized by students from Saratoga Elementary, who use Lorton Station and then Lake Braddock as a way to escape Saratoga/Lewis. Send the Saratoga kids to an AAP center in the Lewis pyramid or have them attend Level IV. It's confusing as to why the Hayfield/SoCo AAP center is being utilized mostly by a Lewis pyramid elementary school.

Hagel Circle kids get to attend school in their neighborhood and everyone is happy.

There is some misinformation you have.

First, Hagel Circle was never shoved out of Lorton Station Elementary. It was never zoned for that school because of the capacity. There was plenty of space available at Halley, which Gunston nor Lorton Station could accommodate. Hagel Circle has been zoned for Halley since 2005 from the maps I was able to find online(FCPS boundary).

Lorton Station Elementary was originally part of South County Pyramid. In 2008, it was rezoned to Hayfield because of overcrowding. Unfortunately for Lorton Station, it was determined by the school board that they be selected for the rezoning. Travel times for people living in Lorton to Hayfield has been as issue since. South County is located in Lorton, yet Lorton Station students are sent to a school in Alexandria which is much further. Many Lorton Station students are unable to participate in after school activities because of the distance, especially during peak driving hours.

Do you even know the number of students from Saratoga that go to school at Lorton Station Elementary? Your solution to the problem may not be appropriate.

37. Saratoga sends the most AAP students to Lorton Station out of all of the other schools do which it is the center.

That information is not publicly available. Where did you get that information?

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Anonymous wrote:I totally understand people wanting to stay in their current school. But, that is not the way this is supposed to work.

If they keep Crossfield at Oakton, they are going to have this over and over again--just like Langley folks who live in Herndon--two miles from Herndon High.

There is no good, objective reason to leave Crossfield neighborhoods at Oakton. Not one.

Oh look, it’s your same tired talking points that try to minimize families’ voices. 🙄

Objectively, families' voices shouldn't be taken into consideration because they are just a snapshot in time.

If families voices give objective reasons to stay where they are, that is valid.

The problem is that most are giving emotional reasons. That is not valid.

Distance, numbers, etc, should drive the decisions.

The only real caveat I see is IB vs AP. Hard to argue that they are the same.

If you ignore people’s voices, that’s not a democracy.

+1.

The social justice warriors (both of them that post here) consistently complain that the school board is listening to families and that the unnecessary changes keep shrinking in size. They don’t want democracy, they want to upset the Apple cart because farms rates are different at some schools. They want to destroy the system first, then have a subpar education for all.

You're literally making up phantom posters to fight with. That's just agit prop, not a discussion.

You think that it is communist propaganda to state that there have been two posters lurking on these discussion boards for years advocating to move boundaries based on equity? You either aren’t familiar with these forums or I’m throwing a reverse uno card at you.

What about moving boundaries based on proximity and available space?

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So there was a meeting in Lorton station December 17th. I missed that.


Where was that posted?


Found it: https://www.fcps.edu/about-fcps/maps/2024-202...e-2-part-2-fall-2025

They're exploring options for Hagel Circle.

Hagel Circle to Lorton Station makes the most sense, but there are a few other easy changes that the board can make to reduce capacity at Hayfield to eliminate the potential split feeder and reduce capacity at Lorton Station.

1.) Neighborhoods located at the corner of Gunston and Route 1 currently zoned for Hayfield - zone to South County. The South County busses that go out on Mason Neck drive through this intersection. This will also help make Gunston a more even split feeder. Due to the geographic area that Gunston encompasses, it's impossible to not have as a split feeder.

2.) Cancel the proposed move of Inlet Cove to Island Creek from Gunston - this puts Gunston's population back up at 83% where it is currently, pre the proposed thru maps.

3.) It was previously posted that Lorton Station is an AAP center, which it became after it shoved Hagel Circle out to Halley 10-15 years ago. AAP enrollment at Lorton Station shows that it's mostly utilized by students from Saratoga Elementary, who use Lorton Station and then Lake Braddock as a way to escape Saratoga/Lewis. Send the Saratoga kids to an AAP center in the Lewis pyramid or have them attend Level IV. It's confusing as to why the Hayfield/SoCo AAP center is being utilized mostly by a Lewis pyramid elementary school.

Hagel Circle kids get to attend school in their neighborhood and everyone is happy.

There is some misinformation you have.

First, Hagel Circle was never shoved out of Lorton Station Elementary. It was never zoned for that school because of the capacity. There was plenty of space available at Halley, which Gunston nor Lorton Station could accommodate. Hagel Circle has been zoned for Halley since 2005 from the maps I was able to find online(FCPS boundary).

Lorton Station Elementary was originally part of South County Pyramid. In 2008, it was rezoned to Hayfield because of overcrowding. Unfortunately for Lorton Station, it was determined by the school board that they be selected for the rezoning. Travel times for people living in Lorton to Hayfield has been as issue since. South County is located in Lorton, yet Lorton Station students are sent to a school in Alexandria which is much further. Many Lorton Station students are unable to participate in after school activities because of the distance, especially during peak driving hours.

Do you even know the number of students from Saratoga that go to school at Lorton Station Elementary? Your solution to the problem may not be appropriate.

37. Saratoga sends the most AAP students to Lorton Station out of all of the other schools do which it is the center.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So there was a meeting in Lorton station December 17th. I missed that.


Where was that posted?


Found it: https://www.fcps.edu/about-fcps/maps/2024-202...e-2-part-2-fall-2025

They're exploring options for Hagel Circle.

Hagel Circle to Lorton Station makes the most sense, but there are a few other easy changes that the board can make to reduce capacity at Hayfield to eliminate the potential split feeder and reduce capacity at Lorton Station.

1.) Neighborhoods located at the corner of Gunston and Route 1 currently zoned for Hayfield - zone to South County. The South County busses that go out on Mason Neck drive through this intersection. This will also help make Gunston a more even split feeder. Due to the geographic area that Gunston encompasses, it's impossible to not have as a split feeder.

2.) Cancel the proposed move of Inlet Cove to Island Creek from Gunston - this puts Gunston's population back up at 83% where it is currently, pre the proposed thru maps.

3.) It was previously posted that Lorton Station is an AAP center, which it became after it shoved Hagel Circle out to Halley 10-15 years ago. AAP enrollment at Lorton Station shows that it's mostly utilized by students from Saratoga Elementary, who use Lorton Station and then Lake Braddock as a way to escape Saratoga/Lewis. Send the Saratoga kids to an AAP center in the Lewis pyramid or have them attend Level IV. It's confusing as to why the Hayfield/SoCo AAP center is being utilized mostly by a Lewis pyramid elementary school.

Hagel Circle kids get to attend school in their neighborhood and everyone is happy.

There is some misinformation you have.

First, Hagel Circle was never shoved out of Lorton Station Elementary. It was never zoned for that school because of the capacity. There was plenty of space available at Halley, which Gunston nor Lorton Station could accommodate. Hagel Circle has been zoned for Halley since 2005 from the maps I was able to find online(FCPS boundary).

Lorton Station Elementary was originally part of South County Pyramid. In 2008, it was rezoned to Hayfield because of overcrowding. Unfortunately for Lorton Station, it was determined by the school board that they be selected for the rezoning. Travel times for people living in Lorton to Hayfield has been as issue since. South County is located in Lorton, yet Lorton Station students are sent to a school in Alexandria which is much further. Many Lorton Station students are unable to participate in after school activities because of the distance, especially during peak driving hours.

Do you even know the number of students from Saratoga that go to school at Lorton Station Elementary? Your solution to the problem may not be appropriate.

Hagel was shoved out of one of those schools over there.

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Anonymous wrote:So there was a meeting in Lorton station December 17th. I missed that.


Where was that posted?


Found it: https://www.fcps.edu/about-fcps/maps/2024-202...e-2-part-2-fall-2025

They're exploring options for Hagel Circle.

Hagel Circle to Lorton Station makes the most sense, but there are a few other easy changes that the board can make to reduce capacity at Hayfield to eliminate the potential split feeder and reduce capacity at Lorton Station.

1.) Neighborhoods located at the corner of Gunston and Route 1 currently zoned for Hayfield - zone to South County. The South County busses that go out on Mason Neck drive through this intersection. This will also help make Gunston a more even split feeder. Due to the geographic area that Gunston encompasses, it's impossible to not have as a split feeder.

2.) Cancel the proposed move of Inlet Cove to Island Creek from Gunston - this puts Gunston's population back up at 83% where it is currently, pre the proposed thru maps.

3.) It was previously posted that Lorton Station is an AAP center, which it became after it shoved Hagel Circle out to Halley 10-15 years ago. AAP enrollment at Lorton Station shows that it's mostly utilized by students from Saratoga Elementary, who use Lorton Station and then Lake Braddock as a way to escape Saratoga/Lewis. Send the Saratoga kids to an AAP center in the Lewis pyramid or have them attend Level IV. It's confusing as to why the Hayfield/SoCo AAP center is being utilized mostly by a Lewis pyramid elementary school.

Hagel Circle kids get to attend school in their neighborhood and everyone is happy.

There is some misinformation you have.

First, Hagel Circle was never shoved out of Lorton Station Elementary. It was never zoned for that school because of the capacity. There was plenty of space available at Halley, which Gunston nor Lorton Station could accommodate. Hagel Circle has been zoned for Halley since 2005 from the maps I was able to find online(FCPS boundary).

Lorton Station Elementary was originally part of South County Pyramid. In 2008, it was rezoned to Hayfield because of overcrowding. Unfortunately for Lorton Station, it was determined by the school board that they be selected for the rezoning. Travel times for people living in Lorton to Hayfield has been as issue since. South County is located in Lorton, yet Lorton Station students are sent to a school in Alexandria which is much further. Many Lorton Station students are unable to participate in after school activities because of the distance, especially during peak driving hours.

Do you even know the number of students from Saratoga that go to school at Lorton Station Elementary? Your solution to the problem may not be appropriate.

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Anonymous wrote:I totally understand people wanting to stay in their current school. But, that is not the way this is supposed to work.

If they keep Crossfield at Oakton, they are going to have this over and over again--just like Langley folks who live in Herndon--two miles from Herndon High.

There is no good, objective reason to leave Crossfield neighborhoods at Oakton. Not one.

Oh look, it’s your same tired talking points that try to minimize families’ voices. 🙄

Objectively, families' voices shouldn't be taken into consideration because they are just a snapshot in time.

If families voices give objective reasons to stay where they are, that is valid.

The problem is that most are giving emotional reasons. That is not valid.

Distance, numbers, etc, should drive the decisions.

The only real caveat I see is IB vs AP. Hard to argue that they are the same.

If you ignore people’s voices, that’s not a democracy.

+1.

The social justice warriors (both of them that post here) consistently complain that the school board is listening to families and that the unnecessary changes keep shrinking in size. They don’t want democracy, they want to upset the Apple cart because farms rates are different at some schools. They want to destroy the system first, then have a subpar education for all.

You're literally making up phantom posters to fight with. That's just agit prop, not a discussion.

You think that it is communist propaganda to state that there have been two posters lurking on these discussion boards for years advocating to move boundaries based on equity? You either aren’t familiar with these forums or I’m throwing a reverse uno card at you.

What about moving boundaries based on proximity and available space?

What about moving boundaries based only on necessity, rather than equity whims? Coates was delayed for a year for these unnecessary changes. The school board threw the baby out with the bath water.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I totally understand people wanting to stay in their current school. But, that is not the way this is supposed to work.

If they keep Crossfield at Oakton, they are going to have this over and over again--just like Langley folks who live in Herndon--two miles from Herndon High.

There is no good, objective reason to leave Crossfield neighborhoods at Oakton. Not one.

Oh look, it’s your same tired talking points that try to minimize families’ voices. 🙄

Objectively, families' voices shouldn't be taken into consideration because they are just a snapshot in time.

If families voices give objective reasons to stay where they are, that is valid.

The problem is that most are giving emotional reasons. That is not valid.

Distance, numbers, etc, should drive the decisions.

The only real caveat I see is IB vs AP. Hard to argue that they are the same.

If you ignore people’s voices, that’s not a democracy.

+1.

The social justice warriors (both of them that post here) consistently complain that the school board is listening to families and that the unnecessary changes keep shrinking in size. They don’t want democracy, they want to upset the Apple cart because farms rates are different at some schools. They want to destroy the system first, then have a subpar education for all.

You're literally making up phantom posters to fight with. That's just agit prop, not a discussion.

You think that it is communist propaganda to state that there have been two posters lurking on these discussion boards for years advocating to move boundaries based on equity? You either aren’t familiar with these forums or I’m throwing a reverse uno card at you.

What about moving boundaries based on proximity and available space?

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I totally understand people wanting to stay in their current school. But, that is not the way this is supposed to work.

If they keep Crossfield at Oakton, they are going to have this over and over again--just like Langley folks who live in Herndon--two miles from Herndon High.

There is no good, objective reason to leave Crossfield neighborhoods at Oakton. Not one.

Oh look, it’s your same tired talking points that try to minimize families’ voices. 🙄

Objectively, families' voices shouldn't be taken into consideration because they are just a snapshot in time.

If families voices give objective reasons to stay where they are, that is valid.

The problem is that most are giving emotional reasons. That is not valid.

Distance, numbers, etc, should drive the decisions.

The only real caveat I see is IB vs AP. Hard to argue that they are the same.

If you ignore people’s voices, that’s not a democracy.

+1.

The social justice warriors (both of them that post here) consistently complain that the school board is listening to families and that the unnecessary changes keep shrinking in size. They don’t want democracy, they want to upset the Apple cart because farms rates are different at some schools. They want to destroy the system first, then have a subpar education for all.

You're literally making up phantom posters to fight with. That's just agit prop, not a discussion.

You think that it is communist propaganda to state that there have been two posters lurking on these discussion boards for years advocating to move boundaries based on equity? You either aren’t familiar with these forums or I’m throwing a reverse uno card at you.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I totally understand people wanting to stay in their current school. But, that is not the way this is supposed to work.

If they keep Crossfield at Oakton, they are going to have this over and over again--just like Langley folks who live in Herndon--two miles from Herndon High.

There is no good, objective reason to leave Crossfield neighborhoods at Oakton. Not one.

Oh look, it’s your same tired talking points that try to minimize families’ voices. 🙄

Objectively, families' voices shouldn't be taken into consideration because they are just a snapshot in time.

If families voices give objective reasons to stay where they are, that is valid.

The problem is that most are giving emotional reasons. That is not valid.

Distance, numbers, etc, should drive the decisions.

The only real caveat I see is IB vs AP. Hard to argue that they are the same.

If you ignore people’s voices, that’s not a democracy.

+1.

The social justice warriors (both of them that post here) consistently complain that the school board is listening to families and that the unnecessary changes keep shrinking in size. They don’t want democracy, they want to upset the Apple cart because farms rates are different at some schools. They want to destroy the system first, then have a subpar education for all.

You're literally making up phantom posters to fight with. That's just agit prop, not a discussion.

You think that it is communist propaganda to state that there have been two posters lurking on these discussion boards for years advocating to move boundaries based on equity? You either aren’t familiar with these forums or I’m throwing a reverse uno card at you.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I totally understand people wanting to stay in their current school. But, that is not the way this is supposed to work.

If they keep Crossfield at Oakton, they are going to have this over and over again--just like Langley folks who live in Herndon--two miles from Herndon High.

There is no good, objective reason to leave Crossfield neighborhoods at Oakton. Not one.

Oh look, it’s your same tired talking points that try to minimize families’ voices. 🙄

Objectively, families' voices shouldn't be taken into consideration because they are just a snapshot in time.

If families voices give objective reasons to stay where they are, that is valid.

The problem is that most are giving emotional reasons. That is not valid.

Distance, numbers, etc, should drive the decisions.

The only real caveat I see is IB vs AP. Hard to argue that they are the same.

If you ignore people’s voices, that’s not a democracy.

+1.

The social justice warriors (both of them that post here) consistently complain that the school board is listening to families and that the unnecessary changes keep shrinking in size. They don’t want democracy, they want to upset the Apple cart because farms rates are different at some schools. They want to destroy the system first, then have a subpar education for all.

You're literally making up phantom posters to fight with. That's just agit prop, not a discussion.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I totally understand people wanting to stay in their current school. But, that is not the way this is supposed to work.

If they keep Crossfield at Oakton, they are going to have this over and over again--just like Langley folks who live in Herndon--two miles from Herndon High.

There is no good, objective reason to leave Crossfield neighborhoods at Oakton. Not one.

Oh look, it’s your same tired talking points that try to minimize families’ voices. 🙄

Objectively, families' voices shouldn't be taken into consideration because they are just a snapshot in time.

If families voices give objective reasons to stay where they are, that is valid.

The problem is that most are giving emotional reasons. That is not valid.

Distance, numbers, etc, should drive the decisions.

The only real caveat I see is IB vs AP. Hard to argue that they are the same.

If you ignore people’s voices, that’s not a democracy.

+1.

The social justice warriors (both of them that post here) consistently complain that the school board is listening to families and that the unnecessary changes keep shrinking in size. They don’t want democracy, they want to upset the Apple cart because farms rates are different at some schools. They want to destroy the system first, then have a subpar education for all.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I totally understand people wanting to stay in their current school. But, that is not the way this is supposed to work.

If they keep Crossfield at Oakton, they are going to have this over and over again--just like Langley folks who live in Herndon--two miles from Herndon High.

There is no good, objective reason to leave Crossfield neighborhoods at Oakton. Not one.

Oh look, it’s your same tired talking points that try to minimize families’ voices. 🙄

Objectively, families' voices shouldn't be taken into consideration because they are just a snapshot in time.

If families voices give objective reasons to stay where they are, that is valid.

The problem is that most are giving emotional reasons. That is not valid.

Distance, numbers, etc, should drive the decisions.

The only real caveat I see is IB vs AP. Hard to argue that they are the same.

If you ignore people’s voices, that’s not a democracy.

+1.

The social justice warriors (both of them that post here) consistently complain that the school board is listening to families and that the unnecessary changes keep shrinking in size. They don’t want democracy, they want to upset the Apple cart because farms rates are different at some schools. They want to destroy the system first, then have a subpar education for all.

Perhaps we will see a drop in FARMS rates with the Trump administration's success in sealing the border.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I totally understand people wanting to stay in their current school. But, that is not the way this is supposed to work.

If they keep Crossfield at Oakton, they are going to have this over and over again--just like Langley folks who live in Herndon--two miles from Herndon High.

There is no good, objective reason to leave Crossfield neighborhoods at Oakton. Not one.

Oh look, it’s your same tired talking points that try to minimize families’ voices. 🙄

Objectively, families' voices shouldn't be taken into consideration because they are just a snapshot in time.

If families voices give objective reasons to stay where they are, that is valid.

The problem is that most are giving emotional reasons. That is not valid.

Distance, numbers, etc, should drive the decisions.

The only real caveat I see is IB vs AP. Hard to argue that they are the same.

If you ignore people’s voices, that’s not a democracy.

+1.

The social justice warriors (both of them that post here) consistently complain that the school board is listening to families and that the unnecessary changes keep shrinking in size. They don’t want democracy, they want to upset the Apple cart because farms rates are different at some schools. They want to destroy the system first, then have a subpar education for all.

Perhaps we will see a drop in FARMS rates with the Trump administration's success in sealing the border.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I totally understand people wanting to stay in their current school. But, that is not the way this is supposed to work.

If they keep Crossfield at Oakton, they are going to have this over and over again--just like Langley folks who live in Herndon--two miles from Herndon High.

There is no good, objective reason to leave Crossfield neighborhoods at Oakton. Not one.

Oh look, it’s your same tired talking points that try to minimize families’ voices. 🙄

Objectively, families' voices shouldn't be taken into consideration because they are just a snapshot in time.

If families voices give objective reasons to stay where they are, that is valid.

The problem is that most are giving emotional reasons. That is not valid.

Distance, numbers, etc, should drive the decisions.

The only real caveat I see is IB vs AP. Hard to argue that they are the same.

If you ignore people’s voices, that’s not a democracy.

+1.

The social justice warriors (both of them that post here) consistently complain that the school board is listening to families and that the unnecessary changes keep shrinking in size. They don’t want democracy, they want to upset the Apple cart because farms rates are different at some schools. They want to destroy the system first, then have a subpar education for all.