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Anonymous wrote:I totally understand people wanting to stay in their current school. But, that is not the way this is supposed to work.

If they keep Crossfield at Oakton, they are going to have this over and over again--just like Langley folks who live in Herndon--two miles from Herndon High.

There is no good, objective reason to leave Crossfield neighborhoods at Oakton. Not one.

Oh look, it’s your same tired talking points that try to minimize families’ voices. 🙄

Objectively, families' voices shouldn't be taken into consideration because they are just a snapshot in time.

If families voices give objective reasons to stay where they are, that is valid.

The problem is that most are giving emotional reasons. That is not valid.

Distance, numbers, etc, should drive the decisions.

The only real caveat I see is IB vs AP. Hard to argue that they are the same.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I totally understand people wanting to stay in their current school. But, that is not the way this is supposed to work.

If they keep Crossfield at Oakton, they are going to have this over and over again--just like Langley folks who live in Herndon--two miles from Herndon High.

There is no good, objective reason to leave Crossfield neighborhoods at Oakton. Not one.

Oh look, it’s your same tired talking points that try to minimize families’ voices. 🙄

Objectively, families' voices shouldn't be taken into consideration because they are just a snapshot in time.

If families voices give objective reasons to stay where they are, that is valid.

The problem is that most are giving emotional reasons. That is not valid.

Distance, numbers, etc, should drive the decisions.

The only real caveat I see is IB vs AP. Hard to argue that they are the same.

Your objective/subjective distinction is subjective. Frankly, the only objective criteria apart from significant overcrowding (Coates) is consistency in pyramids. Everything else is tinkering on the edges that is accompanied by tremendous costs.

Please tell us which pyramids are consistent. The ones out here in the western part of Fairfax County are anything but consistent.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I totally understand people wanting to stay in their current school. But, that is not the way this is supposed to work.

If they keep Crossfield at Oakton, they are going to have this over and over again--just like Langley folks who live in Herndon--two miles from Herndon High.

There is no good, objective reason to leave Crossfield neighborhoods at Oakton. Not one.

Oh look, it’s your same tired talking points that try to minimize families’ voices. 🙄

Objectively, families' voices shouldn't be taken into consideration because they are just a snapshot in time.

If families voices give objective reasons to stay where they are, that is valid.

The problem is that most are giving emotional reasons. That is not valid.

Distance, numbers, etc, should drive the decisions.

The only real caveat I see is IB vs AP. Hard to argue that they are the same.

Your objective/subjective distinction is subjective. Frankly, the only objective criteria apart from significant overcrowding (Coates) is consistency in pyramids. Everything else is tinkering on the edges that is accompanied by tremendous costs.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I totally understand people wanting to stay in their current school. But, that is not the way this is supposed to work.

If they keep Crossfield at Oakton, they are going to have this over and over again--just like Langley folks who live in Herndon--two miles from Herndon High.

There is no good, objective reason to leave Crossfield neighborhoods at Oakton. Not one.

Oh look, it’s your same tired talking points that try to minimize families’ voices. 🙄

Objectively, families' voices shouldn't be taken into consideration because they are just a snapshot in time.

If families voices give objective reasons to stay where they are, that is valid.

The problem is that most are giving emotional reasons. That is not valid.

Distance, numbers, etc, should drive the decisions.

The only real caveat I see is IB vs AP. Hard to argue that they are the same.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So there was a meeting in Lorton station December 17th. I missed that.


Where was that posted?


Found it: https://www.fcps.edu/about-fcps/maps/2024-202...e-2-part-2-fall-2025

They're exploring options for Hagel Circle.

Hagel Circle to Lorton Station makes the most sense, but there are a few other easy changes that the board can make to reduce capacity at Hayfield to eliminate the potential split feeder and reduce capacity at Lorton Station.

1.) Neighborhoods located at the corner of Gunston and Route 1 currently zoned for Hayfield - zone to South County. The South County busses that go out on Mason Neck drive through this intersection. This will also help make Gunston a more even split feeder. Due to the geographic area that Gunston encompasses, it's impossible to not have as a split feeder.

2.) Cancel the proposed move of Inlet Cove to Island Creek from Gunston - this puts Gunston's population back up at 83% where it is currently, pre the proposed thru maps.

3.) It was previously posted that Lorton Station is an AAP center, which it became after it shoved Hagel Circle out to Halley 10-15 years ago. AAP enrollment at Lorton Station shows that it's mostly utilized by students from Saratoga Elementary, who use Lorton Station and then Lake Braddock as a way to escape Saratoga/Lewis. Send the Saratoga kids to an AAP center in the Lewis pyramid or have them attend Level IV. It's confusing as to why the Hayfield/SoCo AAP center is being utilized mostly by a Lewis pyramid elementary school.

Hagel Circle kids get to attend school in their neighborhood and everyone is happy.

Why would a Lorton Station AAP kid attend Lake Braddock instead of Lewis or SoCo?

Lorton Station is not in the LB pyramid

Send Lorton Station to SoCo with Gunston and call it a day.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So there was a meeting in Lorton station December 17th. I missed that.


Where was that posted?


Found it: https://www.fcps.edu/about-fcps/maps/2024-202...e-2-part-2-fall-2025

They're exploring options for Hagel Circle.

Hagel Circle to Lorton Station makes the most sense, but there are a few other easy changes that the board can make to reduce capacity at Hayfield to eliminate the potential split feeder and reduce capacity at Lorton Station.

1.) Neighborhoods located at the corner of Gunston and Route 1 currently zoned for Hayfield - zone to South County. The South County busses that go out on Mason Neck drive through this intersection. This will also help make Gunston a more even split feeder. Due to the geographic area that Gunston encompasses, it's impossible to not have as a split feeder.

2.) Cancel the proposed move of Inlet Cove to Island Creek from Gunston - this puts Gunston's population back up at 83% where it is currently, pre the proposed thru maps.

3.) It was previously posted that Lorton Station is an AAP center, which it became after it shoved Hagel Circle out to Halley 10-15 years ago. AAP enrollment at Lorton Station shows that it's mostly utilized by students from Saratoga Elementary, who use Lorton Station and then Lake Braddock as a way to escape Saratoga/Lewis. Send the Saratoga kids to an AAP center in the Lewis pyramid or have them attend Level IV. It's confusing as to why the Hayfield/SoCo AAP center is being utilized mostly by a Lewis pyramid elementary school.

Hagel Circle kids get to attend school in their neighborhood and everyone is happy.

Why would a Lorton Station AAP kid attend Lake Braddock instead of Lewis or SoCo?

Lorton Station is not in the LB pyramid

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So there was a meeting in Lorton station December 17th. I missed that.


Where was that posted?


Found it: https://www.fcps.edu/about-fcps/maps/2024-202...e-2-part-2-fall-2025

They're exploring options for Hagel Circle.

Hagel Circle to Lorton Station makes the most sense, but there are a few other easy changes that the board can make to reduce capacity at Hayfield to eliminate the potential split feeder and reduce capacity at Lorton Station.

1.) Neighborhoods located at the corner of Gunston and Route 1 currently zoned for Hayfield - zone to South County. The South County busses that go out on Mason Neck drive through this intersection. This will also help make Gunston a more even split feeder. Due to the geographic area that Gunston encompasses, it's impossible to not have as a split feeder.

2.) Cancel the proposed move of Inlet Cove to Island Creek from Gunston - this puts Gunston's population back up at 83% where it is currently, pre the proposed thru maps.

3.) It was previously posted that Lorton Station is an AAP center, which it became after it shoved Hagel Circle out to Halley 10-15 years ago. AAP enrollment at Lorton Station shows that it's mostly utilized by students from Saratoga Elementary, who use Lorton Station and then Lake Braddock as a way to escape Saratoga/Lewis. Send the Saratoga kids to an AAP center in the Lewis pyramid or have them attend Level IV. It's confusing as to why the Hayfield/SoCo AAP center is being utilized mostly by a Lewis pyramid elementary school.

Hagel Circle kids get to attend school in their neighborhood and everyone is happy.

Why would a Lorton Station AAP kid attend Lake Braddock instead of Lewis or SoCo?

Lorton Station is not in the LB pyramid

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So there was a meeting in Lorton station December 17th. I missed that.


Where was that posted?


Found it: https://www.fcps.edu/about-fcps/maps/2024-202...e-2-part-2-fall-2025

They're exploring options for Hagel Circle.

Hagel Circle to Lorton Station makes the most sense, but there are a few other easy changes that the board can make to reduce capacity at Hayfield to eliminate the potential split feeder and reduce capacity at Lorton Station.

1.) Neighborhoods located at the corner of Gunston and Route 1 currently zoned for Hayfield - zone to South County. The South County busses that go out on Mason Neck drive through this intersection. This will also help make Gunston a more even split feeder. Due to the geographic area that Gunston encompasses, it's impossible to not have as a split feeder.

2.) Cancel the proposed move of Inlet Cove to Island Creek from Gunston - this puts Gunston's population back up at 83% where it is currently, pre the proposed thru maps.

3.) It was previously posted that Lorton Station is an AAP center, which it became after it shoved Hagel Circle out to Halley 10-15 years ago. AAP enrollment at Lorton Station shows that it's mostly utilized by students from Saratoga Elementary, who use Lorton Station and then Lake Braddock as a way to escape Saratoga/Lewis. Send the Saratoga kids to an AAP center in the Lewis pyramid or have them attend Level IV. It's confusing as to why the Hayfield/SoCo AAP center is being utilized mostly by a Lewis pyramid elementary school.

Hagel Circle kids get to attend school in their neighborhood and everyone is happy.

There is some misinformation you have.

First, Hagel Circle was never shoved out of Lorton Station Elementary. It was never zoned for that school because of the capacity. There was plenty of space available at Halley, which Gunston nor Lorton Station could accommodate. Hagel Circle has been zoned for Halley since 2005 from the maps I was able to find online(FCPS boundary).

Lorton Station Elementary was originally part of South County Pyramid. In 2008, it was rezoned to Hayfield because of overcrowding. Unfortunately for Lorton Station, it was determined by the school board that they be selected for the rezoning. Travel times for people living in Lorton to Hayfield has been as issue since. South County is located in Lorton, yet Lorton Station students are sent to a school in Alexandria which is much further. Many Lorton Station students are unable to participate in after school activities because of the distance, especially during peak driving hours.

Do you even know the number of students from Saratoga that go to school at Lorton Station Elementary? Your solution to the problem may not be appropriate.

Anonymous wrote:So there was a meeting in Lorton station December 17th. I missed that.


Where was that posted?


Found it: https://www.fcps.edu/about-fcps/maps/2024-202...e-2-part-2-fall-2025

They're exploring options for Hagel Circle.

Hagel Circle to Lorton Station makes the most sense, but there are a few other easy changes that the board can make to reduce capacity at Hayfield to eliminate the potential split feeder and reduce capacity at Lorton Station.

1.) Neighborhoods located at the corner of Gunston and Route 1 currently zoned for Hayfield - zone to South County. The South County busses that go out on Mason Neck drive through this intersection. This will also help make Gunston a more even split feeder. Due to the geographic area that Gunston encompasses, it's impossible to not have as a split feeder.

2.) Cancel the proposed move of Inlet Cove to Island Creek from Gunston - this puts Gunston's population back up at 83% where it is currently, pre the proposed thru maps.

3.) It was previously posted that Lorton Station is an AAP center, which it became after it shoved Hagel Circle out to Halley 10-15 years ago. AAP enrollment at Lorton Station shows that it's mostly utilized by students from Saratoga Elementary, who use Lorton Station and then Lake Braddock as a way to escape Saratoga/Lewis. Send the Saratoga kids to an AAP center in the Lewis pyramid or have them attend Level IV. It's confusing as to why the Hayfield/SoCo AAP center is being utilized mostly by a Lewis pyramid elementary school.

Hagel Circle kids get to attend school in their neighborhood and everyone is happy.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I totally understand people wanting to stay in their current school. But, that is not the way this is supposed to work.

If they keep Crossfield at Oakton, they are going to have this over and over again--just like Langley folks who live in Herndon--two miles from Herndon High.

There is no good, objective reason to leave Crossfield neighborhoods at Oakton. Not one.

Oh look, it’s your same tired talking points that try to minimize families’ voices. 🙄

Objectively, families' voices shouldn't be taken into consideration because they are just a snapshot in time.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I totally understand people wanting to stay in their current school. But, that is not the way this is supposed to work.

If they keep Crossfield at Oakton, they are going to have this over and over again--just like Langley folks who live in Herndon--two miles from Herndon High.

There is no good, objective reason to leave Crossfield neighborhoods at Oakton. Not one.

Oh look, it’s your same tired talking points that try to minimize families’ voices. 🙄