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Anonymous wrote:Or maybe kids parents work 60 -80 hour weeks. That should not preclude a child from being on team. That is just nasty. Volunteering should not just be tit for tat. It should be about giving of yourself because my goodness you are blessed with something to give.

I worked 70+ hours a week with a husband who was gone 3 weeks a month. I volunteered fully, including timing when I had a 3 year old in tow.

I volunteer with two other organizations.
Sorry, not sorry - won’t be volunteering at swimming.

This response is absurd. What does volunteering for 2 other organizations have anything to do with swim team volunteer obligations? You can feel free to just tell your kid that you don’t have room in the schedule for swim team obligations and not sign them up. It’s not other parents’ responsibility to subsidize your volunteer priorities. Are we supposed to just bow down and pick up your slack because you have deemed other volunteer obligations to be more important? Get over yourself.

You can cut back on the two other organizations to be able to volunteer twice a month for a few hours at swim meets. And, too bad you have a 3 year old in tow. That part of being a parent. If you work 70+ hours a week plus volunteer you either have a lot of hired help for that 3 year old or you are lying.

I’m the one who worked long hours and was timing at meets with my three year old. I’m NOT the one saying I didn’t volunteer bc I volunteered at other activities for my kids. My point was - lots of people work long hours but if you sign your kid up, you do it. Oh, and I didn’t have help. Zero. I had my own company and the kids came in with me everyday. I worked very long hours at work and home and somehow made it work. I never made excuses that I didn’t pitch in when asked or needed. This other poster is pathetic.

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Anonymous wrote:I show up to meets but am in the back on my laptop catching up on work. Sorry. That’s the price I pay because the hours of practice are during normal working hours.

You don’t volunteer at meets? You elect to make sure you’re available so your kid gets to the cheap and frequent practices, along with meets, but don’t help out because you’ve no time to do so? You sure are sorry…

A very easy solution: if you’re so very busy, hire someone to work concessions for you, hire a college student to help with the driving to and from practices, etc. the answer isn’t that you get everything that helps your family and just shrug it off that you can’t do it.

Shrug off the required helping.

Anonymous wrote:OP is a judgmental b*tch.

It's a TEAM. That means supporting each other.

Maybe 1 mom had something bad come up. You don't know her personal life. What if her parents died from COVID? What if her company is failing due to pandemic. What if pandemic caused her severe anxiety or depression.

Let's help each other get through this year - moms helping moms. ok?

But as you see from this thread, this isn’t the case.
It’s people like page 33 you don’t want to because they have to work. That’s what Op is (rightfully) irritated with.

Anonymous wrote:I show up to meets but am in the back on my laptop catching up on work. Sorry. That’s the price I pay because the hours of practice are during normal working hours.

You don’t volunteer at meets? You elect to make sure you’re available so your kid gets to the cheap and frequent practices, along with meets, but don’t help out because you’ve no time to do so? You sure are sorry…

A very easy solution: if you’re so very busy, hire someone to work concessions for you, hire a college student to help with the driving to and from practices, etc. the answer isn’t that you get everything that helps your family and just shrug it off that you can’t do it.

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Anonymous wrote:I show up to meets but am in the back on my laptop catching up on work. Sorry. That’s the price I pay because the hours of practice are during normal working hours.

I’m not following this. You don’t have to volunteer during practice, so why can’t you just continue working during practice since that’s what you are doing during the meets, and that way you wouldn’t “have to” work during meets? These flimsy excuses people are offering are so ridiculous.

Dropping off and picking up for practice without even staying burns 5 hrs a week. Not staying for practice I go to work then come back.

So you really feel like this is a legitimate reason you can’t help?

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Anonymous wrote:I show up to meets but am in the back on my laptop catching up on work. Sorry. That’s the price I pay because the hours of practice are during normal working hours.

Geez. You work like every other parent?

<shrug>. Our team is 90% SAHM or PT families. I don’t think that’s coincidence.

I’m calling BS on this. This isn’t the 1950s.

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Anonymous wrote:I show up to meets but am in the back on my laptop catching up on work. Sorry. That’s the price I pay because the hours of practice are during normal working hours.

Geez. You work like every other parent?

<shrug>. Our team is 90% SAHM or PT families. I don’t think that’s coincidence.

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Anonymous wrote:I show up to meets but am in the back on my laptop catching up on work. Sorry. That’s the price I pay because the hours of practice are during normal working hours.

I’m not following this. You don’t have to volunteer during practice, so why can’t you just continue working during practice since that’s what you are doing during the meets, and that way you wouldn’t “have to” work during meets? These flimsy excuses people are offering are so ridiculous.

Dropping off and picking up for practice without even staying burns 5 hrs a week. Not staying for practice I go to work then come back.

Anonymous wrote:I show up to meets but am in the back on my laptop catching up on work. Sorry. That’s the price I pay because the hours of practice are during normal working hours.

Geez. You work like every other parent?

Why is this hard? Volunteering is a requirement. It’s fine if you can’t volunteer. Just don’t join then.

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Anonymous wrote:Or maybe kids parents work 60 -80 hour weeks. That should not preclude a child from being on team. That is just nasty. Volunteering should not just be tit for tat. It should be about giving of yourself because my goodness you are blessed with something to give.

I worked 70+ hours a week with a husband who was gone 3 weeks a month. I volunteered fully, including timing when I had a 3 year old in tow.

I volunteer with two other organizations.
Sorry, not sorry - won’t be volunteering at swimming.

This response is absurd. What does volunteering for 2 other organizations have anything to do with swim team volunteer obligations? You can feel free to just tell your kid that you don’t have room in the schedule for swim team obligations and not sign them up. It’s not other parents’ responsibility to subsidize your volunteer priorities. Are we supposed to just bow down and pick up your slack because you have deemed other volunteer obligations to be more important? Get over yourself.

It’s because 90% of the parents do ZERO in the other two organizations. Email after email asking for volunteers. Nada. But these same parents want a third timer for 8 year olds. F off.

Wait, so you are telling me that the exact same parents are part of these other organizations and the swim team? Because if not, you realize the swim team parents think of you with the same contempt that you have for the parents in these other organizations, because as a swim team parent you are as awful as the parents in the other organizations that you despise so much?

Several families have kids in all the organizations.

Right, so because there a few families that overlap, you are acting like the same a$$hat that you say these parents are in your other organizations. Excellent elementary school level logic.

Anonymous wrote:I show up to meets but am in the back on my laptop catching up on work. Sorry. That’s the price I pay because the hours of practice are during normal working hours.

I’m not following this. You don’t have to volunteer during practice, so why can’t you just continue working during practice since that’s what you are doing during the meets, and that way you wouldn’t “have to” work during meets? These flimsy excuses people are offering are so ridiculous.

Anonymous wrote:I show up to meets but am in the back on my laptop catching up on work. Sorry. That’s the price I pay because the hours of practice are during normal working hours.

Totally fine, as long as you are meeting the required hours in some other way.

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Anonymous wrote:Or maybe kids parents work 60 -80 hour weeks. That should not preclude a child from being on team. That is just nasty. Volunteering should not just be tit for tat. It should be about giving of yourself because my goodness you are blessed with something to give.

I worked 70+ hours a week with a husband who was gone 3 weeks a month. I volunteered fully, including timing when I had a 3 year old in tow.

I volunteer with two other organizations.
Sorry, not sorry - won’t be volunteering at swimming.

This response is absurd. What does volunteering for 2 other organizations have anything to do with swim team volunteer obligations? You can feel free to just tell your kid that you don’t have room in the schedule for swim team obligations and not sign them up. It’s not other parents’ responsibility to subsidize your volunteer priorities. Are we supposed to just bow down and pick up your slack because you have deemed other volunteer obligations to be more important? Get over yourself.

It’s because 90% of the parents do ZERO in the other two organizations. Email after email asking for volunteers. Nada. But these same parents want a third timer for 8 year olds. F off.

Wait, so you are telling me that the exact same parents are part of these other organizations and the swim team? Because if not, you realize the swim team parents think of you with the same contempt that you have for the parents in these other organizations, because as a swim team parent you are as awful as the parents in the other organizations that you despise so much?

Several families have kids in all the organizations.

I show up to meets but am in the back on my laptop catching up on work. Sorry. That’s the price I pay because the hours of practice are during normal working hours.